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PeterB
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 5:15 pm    Post subject: Re: AUTISM: THE EVOLUTION OF A DISEASE by Bryan Jepson, MD Reply with quote

Mark Probert wrote:
Quote:
PeterB wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
PeterB wrote:
Mark wrote:
john wrote:
http://www.whale.to/vaccines/jepson.html
So Dr. Jepson is an emergency medicine doctor who works at an autism
treatment center in Utah headed up by executive director...wait for
it...Dr. Andrew Wakefield!!!

I wonder if Wakefield got this job before or after he was reprimanded
in Britain for his shenanigans surrounding his 1998 paper.
Ad hominem.
Coming from the person who uses poisoning the well and ad hominem as you
do makes me believe that you had your last vestiges of humility removed.

Coming from one whose last vestiges of humility were on his ancestors,
that's pretty funny.

Did you make a point in that?

yes.

Quote:
Vaccines have never been proven safe, regardless.

No one claims that they are 100% safe. There are times that I laugh so
hard from reading your posts that I cannot catch my breath.

That's from swallowing your own bs for so long. You are laughing
diarrhea.

Incorrect. I was pointing out that reading your posts is not safe.

The truth hurts, but I promise it won't harm you.
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Mark Probert
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:00 pm    Post subject: Re: AUTISM: THE EVOLUTION OF A DISEASE by Bryan Jepson, MD Reply with quote

PeterB wrote:
Quote:
Mark Probert wrote:
PeterB wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
PeterB wrote:
Mark wrote:
john wrote:
http://www.whale.to/vaccines/jepson.html
So Dr. Jepson is an emergency medicine doctor who works at an autism
treatment center in Utah headed up by executive director...wait for
it...Dr. Andrew Wakefield!!!

I wonder if Wakefield got this job before or after he was reprimanded
in Britain for his shenanigans surrounding his 1998 paper.
Ad hominem.
Coming from the person who uses poisoning the well and ad hominem as you
do makes me believe that you had your last vestiges of humility removed.
Coming from one whose last vestiges of humility were on his ancestors,
that's pretty funny.
Did you make a point in that?

yes.

Vaccines have never been proven safe, regardless.

No one claims that they are 100% safe. There are times that I laugh so
hard from reading your posts that I cannot catch my breath.
That's from swallowing your own bs for so long. You are laughing
diarrhea.
Incorrect. I was pointing out that reading your posts is not safe.

The truth hurts, but I promise it won't harm you.

I was more concerned about dieing of laughter.
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PeterB
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Joined: 28 Apr 2005
Posts: 384

PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 7:15 pm    Post subject: Re: AUTISM: THE EVOLUTION OF A DISEASE by Bryan Jepson, MD Reply with quote

Mark Probert wrote:
Quote:
PeterB wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
PeterB wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
PeterB wrote:
Mark wrote:
john wrote:
http://www.whale.to/vaccines/jepson.html
So Dr. Jepson is an emergency medicine doctor who works at an autism
treatment center in Utah headed up by executive director...wait for
it...Dr. Andrew Wakefield!!!

I wonder if Wakefield got this job before or after he was reprimanded
in Britain for his shenanigans surrounding his 1998 paper.
Ad hominem.
Coming from the person who uses poisoning the well and ad hominem as you
do makes me believe that you had your last vestiges of humility removed.
Coming from one whose last vestiges of humility were on his ancestors,
that's pretty funny.
Did you make a point in that?

yes.

Vaccines have never been proven safe, regardless.

No one claims that they are 100% safe. There are times that I laugh so
hard from reading your posts that I cannot catch my breath.
That's from swallowing your own bs for so long. You are laughing
diarrhea.
Incorrect. I was pointing out that reading your posts is not safe.

The truth hurts, but I promise it won't harm you.

I was more concerned about dieing of laughter.

Reading your own jokes will be the cure for that. ;Wink)
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Mark Probert
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Posts: 1720

PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:05 pm    Post subject: Re: AUTISM: THE EVOLUTION OF A DISEASE by Bryan Jepson, MD Reply with quote

PeterB wrote:
Quote:
Mark Probert wrote:
PeterB wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
PeterB wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
PeterB wrote:
Mark wrote:
john wrote:
http://www.whale.to/vaccines/jepson.html
So Dr. Jepson is an emergency medicine doctor who works at an autism
treatment center in Utah headed up by executive director...wait for
it...Dr. Andrew Wakefield!!!

I wonder if Wakefield got this job before or after he was reprimanded
in Britain for his shenanigans surrounding his 1998 paper.
Ad hominem.
Coming from the person who uses poisoning the well and ad hominem as you
do makes me believe that you had your last vestiges of humility removed.
Coming from one whose last vestiges of humility were on his ancestors,
that's pretty funny.
Did you make a point in that?
yes.

Vaccines have never been proven safe, regardless.

No one claims that they are 100% safe. There are times that I laugh so
hard from reading your posts that I cannot catch my breath.
That's from swallowing your own bs for so long. You are laughing
diarrhea.
Incorrect. I was pointing out that reading your posts is not safe.
The truth hurts, but I promise it won't harm you.

I was more concerned about dieing of laughter.

Reading your own jokes will be the cure for that. ;Wink)

Not in the slightest.
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HCN
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Joined: 15 May 2005
Posts: 139

PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:35 pm    Post subject: Re: AUTISM: THE EVOLUTION OF A DISEASE by Bryan Jepson, MD Reply with quote

"Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
news:vy7tg.11$EX5.3@fe11.lga...
Quote:
cathyb wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
HCN wrote:
"Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
news:eBYsg.511$W%2.494@fe09.lga...
HCN wrote:
"Bryan Heit" <bjheit@NOSPAMucalgary.ca> wrote in message
news:e91i55$bir$1@news.ucalgary.ca...
...> Was it you who had the link the the judges findings in regards
to
this?
I thought I had saved the link, but it appears to be lost. If it
was
you, would you mind re-posting it?

Thanx

Bryan
Are you thinking of this:
http://www.neurodiversity.com/court/rhogam_decision.pdf
Kathleen now has it on Neurodiversity in HTML.
I see it now on the blog:
http://neurodiversity.com/weblog/article/102/plaintiffs-gambit-failed-rhogam-decision

the more I read it the more I am convinced that Geier and Haley should
look for jobs at McDonald's. The judge nailed Geier four square when he
noted that Geier's autism research was during the pendency of the case.
I have no doubt in my mind that Geier is now retroactively bootstrapping
his prior testimonies with this "research" and we have not seen the last
of his garbage.

Watch Neurodiversity for more on him. There is a really hot one on the
way.


"...the Court finds that Dr. Geier's application of the differential
diagnosis technique suffers from its own irregularities. First, the
Court notes that Dr. Geier is not a pediatrician or a pediatric
neurologist. In fact, testimony was presented to the Court that Dr.
Geier was not even successful in sitting for his Medical Board
examination in the specific field of pediatric genetics. (See
Transcript, Vol. II of III, Document #121, at 65.) Thus, there is a
threshold question as to whether Dr. Geier is even qualified to perform
a differential diagnosis so as to give a causation opinion with respect
to the cause of a neurological disorder such as autism ..."

That was a lovely read, thank you.

There is more to come.

And here it is!
http://neurodiversity.com/weblog/article/103/significant-misrepresentations-mark-geier-david-geier-the-evolution-of-the-lupron-protocol-part-five
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Mark Probert
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Posts: 1720

PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:13 pm    Post subject: Re: AUTISM: THE EVOLUTION OF A DISEASE by Bryan Jepson, MD Reply with quote

HCN wrote:
Quote:
"Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
news:vy7tg.11$EX5.3@fe11.lga...
cathyb wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
HCN wrote:
"Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
news:eBYsg.511$W%2.494@fe09.lga...
HCN wrote:
"Bryan Heit" <bjheit@NOSPAMucalgary.ca> wrote in message
news:e91i55$bir$1@news.ucalgary.ca...
...> Was it you who had the link the the judges findings in regards
to
this?
I thought I had saved the link, but it appears to be lost. If it
was
you, would you mind re-posting it?

Thanx

Bryan
Are you thinking of this:
http://www.neurodiversity.com/court/rhogam_decision.pdf
Kathleen now has it on Neurodiversity in HTML.
I see it now on the blog:
http://neurodiversity.com/weblog/article/102/plaintiffs-gambit-failed-rhogam-decision
the more I read it the more I am convinced that Geier and Haley should
look for jobs at McDonald's. The judge nailed Geier four square when he
noted that Geier's autism research was during the pendency of the case.
I have no doubt in my mind that Geier is now retroactively bootstrapping
his prior testimonies with this "research" and we have not seen the last
of his garbage.

Watch Neurodiversity for more on him. There is a really hot one on the
way.

"...the Court finds that Dr. Geier's application of the differential
diagnosis technique suffers from its own irregularities. First, the
Court notes that Dr. Geier is not a pediatrician or a pediatric
neurologist. In fact, testimony was presented to the Court that Dr.
Geier was not even successful in sitting for his Medical Board
examination in the specific field of pediatric genetics. (See
Transcript, Vol. II of III, Document #121, at 65.) Thus, there is a
threshold question as to whether Dr. Geier is even qualified to perform
a differential diagnosis so as to give a causation opinion with respect
to the cause of a neurological disorder such as autism ..."

That was a lovely read, thank you.
There is more to come.

And here it is!
http://neurodiversity.com/weblog/article/103/significant-misrepresentations-mark-geier-david-geier-the-evolution-of-the-lupron-protocol-part-five

INCORRECT!

(I am a few topics ahead.....)

email me at mark-dot-probert-at-gmail-dot-com and I will forward you a
heads up.
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HCN
medicine forum Guru Wannabe


Joined: 15 May 2005
Posts: 139

PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 10:16 pm    Post subject: Re: AUTISM: THE EVOLUTION OF A DISEASE by Bryan Jepson, MD Reply with quote

"Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
news:xuetg.359$O06.226@fe12.lga...
Quote:
HCN wrote:
"Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
news:vy7tg.11$EX5.3@fe11.lga...
cathyb wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
HCN wrote:
"Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
news:eBYsg.511$W%2.494@fe09.lga...
HCN wrote:
"Bryan Heit" <bjheit@NOSPAMucalgary.ca> wrote in message
news:e91i55$bir$1@news.ucalgary.ca...
...> Was it you who had the link the the judges findings in regards
to
this?
I thought I had saved the link, but it appears to be lost. If it
was
you, would you mind re-posting it?

Thanx

Bryan
Are you thinking of this:
http://www.neurodiversity.com/court/rhogam_decision.pdf
Kathleen now has it on Neurodiversity in HTML.
I see it now on the blog:
http://neurodiversity.com/weblog/article/102/plaintiffs-gambit-failed-rhogam-decision
the more I read it the more I am convinced that Geier and Haley should
look for jobs at McDonald's. The judge nailed Geier four square when
he
noted that Geier's autism research was during the pendency of the
case.
I have no doubt in my mind that Geier is now retroactively
bootstrapping
his prior testimonies with this "research" and we have not seen the
last
of his garbage.

Watch Neurodiversity for more on him. There is a really hot one on the
way.

"...the Court finds that Dr. Geier's application of the differential
diagnosis technique suffers from its own irregularities. First, the
Court notes that Dr. Geier is not a pediatrician or a pediatric
neurologist. In fact, testimony was presented to the Court that Dr.
Geier was not even successful in sitting for his Medical Board
examination in the specific field of pediatric genetics. (See
Transcript, Vol. II of III, Document #121, at 65.) Thus, there is a
threshold question as to whether Dr. Geier is even qualified to perform
a differential diagnosis so as to give a causation opinion with respect
to the cause of a neurological disorder such as autism ..."

That was a lovely read, thank you.
There is more to come.

And here it is!
http://neurodiversity.com/weblog/article/103/significant-misrepresentations-mark-geier-david-geier-the-evolution-of-the-lupron-protocol-part-five

INCORRECT!

(I am a few topics ahead.....)

email me at mark-dot-probert-at-gmail-dot-com and I will forward you a
heads up.



Maybe later... I'll wait to see what happens (I actually have to deal with
real life now).

But thanks, it should become very interesting... I think I'll have popcorn
the next time I'm logged in.
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PeterB
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Joined: 28 Apr 2005
Posts: 384

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 1:23 pm    Post subject: Re: AUTISM: THE EVOLUTION OF A DISEASE by Bryan Jepson, MD Reply with quote

Mark Probert wrote:
Quote:
PeterB wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
PeterB wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
PeterB wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
PeterB wrote:
Mark wrote:
john wrote:
http://www.whale.to/vaccines/jepson.html
So Dr. Jepson is an emergency medicine doctor who works at an autism
treatment center in Utah headed up by executive director...wait for
it...Dr. Andrew Wakefield!!!

I wonder if Wakefield got this job before or after he was reprimanded
in Britain for his shenanigans surrounding his 1998 paper.
Ad hominem.
Coming from the person who uses poisoning the well and ad hominem as you
do makes me believe that you had your last vestiges of humility removed.
Coming from one whose last vestiges of humility were on his ancestors,
that's pretty funny.
Did you make a point in that?
yes.

Vaccines have never been proven safe, regardless.

No one claims that they are 100% safe. There are times that I laugh so
hard from reading your posts that I cannot catch my breath.
That's from swallowing your own bs for so long. You are laughing
diarrhea.
Incorrect. I was pointing out that reading your posts is not safe.
The truth hurts, but I promise it won't harm you.

I was more concerned about dieing of laughter.

Reading your own jokes will be the cure for that. ;Wink)

Not in the slightest.

Then in the mostest.
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Mark Probert
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Joined: 01 May 2005
Posts: 1720

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:02 pm    Post subject: Re: AUTISM: THE EVOLUTION OF A DISEASE by Bryan Jepson, MD Reply with quote

HCN wrote:
Quote:
"Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
news:xuetg.359$O06.226@fe12.lga...
HCN wrote:
"Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
news:vy7tg.11$EX5.3@fe11.lga...
cathyb wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
HCN wrote:
"Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
news:eBYsg.511$W%2.494@fe09.lga...
HCN wrote:
"Bryan Heit" <bjheit@NOSPAMucalgary.ca> wrote in message
news:e91i55$bir$1@news.ucalgary.ca...
...> Was it you who had the link the the judges findings in regards
to
this?
I thought I had saved the link, but it appears to be lost. If it
was
you, would you mind re-posting it?

Thanx

Bryan
Are you thinking of this:
http://www.neurodiversity.com/court/rhogam_decision.pdf
Kathleen now has it on Neurodiversity in HTML.
I see it now on the blog:
http://neurodiversity.com/weblog/article/102/plaintiffs-gambit-failed-rhogam-decision
the more I read it the more I am convinced that Geier and Haley should
look for jobs at McDonald's. The judge nailed Geier four square when
he
noted that Geier's autism research was during the pendency of the
case.
I have no doubt in my mind that Geier is now retroactively
bootstrapping
his prior testimonies with this "research" and we have not seen the
last
of his garbage.

Watch Neurodiversity for more on him. There is a really hot one on the
way.
"...the Court finds that Dr. Geier's application of the differential
diagnosis technique suffers from its own irregularities. First, the
Court notes that Dr. Geier is not a pediatrician or a pediatric
neurologist. In fact, testimony was presented to the Court that Dr.
Geier was not even successful in sitting for his Medical Board
examination in the specific field of pediatric genetics. (See
Transcript, Vol. II of III, Document #121, at 65.) Thus, there is a
threshold question as to whether Dr. Geier is even qualified to perform
a differential diagnosis so as to give a causation opinion with respect
to the cause of a neurological disorder such as autism ..."

That was a lovely read, thank you.
There is more to come.
And here it is!
http://neurodiversity.com/weblog/article/103/significant-misrepresentations-mark-geier-david-geier-the-evolution-of-the-lupron-protocol-part-five
INCORRECT!

(I am a few topics ahead.....)

email me at mark-dot-probert-at-gmail-dot-com and I will forward you a
heads up.



Maybe later... I'll wait to see what happens (I actually have to deal with
real life now).

But thanks, it should become very interesting... I think I'll have popcorn
the next time I'm logged in.

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