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CliffB
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 2:40 am    Post subject: Re: Suicide, knives, veins Reply with quote

tiny dancer wrote:
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"Carey Gregory" <tiredofspam123@comcast.net> wrote in message
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"OneTel" <swaliamsou@kriocoucke.mailexpire.com> wrote:

The left ventricle, any advance on the left ventricle?

Yeah, that'll sure do the job if the cut is large enough, but cutting your
own left ventricle would take some serious chutzpah. You would have to
plunge a knife between ribs, which takes some force and is going to hurt
like hell, and do it in exactly the right spot, angle, and depth.

Much easier to just lay open the carotid artery. Easy to find and easy to
cut.


Better yet, take a bottle of pills, down 'em with a bottle of Jack Daniels.


Got hemlock?
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CliffB
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 2:44 am    Post subject: Re: Suicide, knives, veins Reply with quote

Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com wrote:
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Carey Gregory wrote:
Nah, Alan is right. I've seen it "done right" and still fail countless
times. There are very few certain means of suicide, and neither pills nor
bleeding are among them. Both methods fail far more than they succeed.

But the topic here is suicide by bleeding, and for that method the carotid
artery is clearly the best choice.

COMMENT:

Nor "clearly" when he himself might his quietus make with a bare
bodkin... If you must bleed, I vote with Hamlet for the thin round shiv
between the ribs.

and skip the sleeping draught, unless you want to fake it and avoid a
loveless marriage. Just be sure to tell your true love it's all a
put=on.....

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The heart is easier to hit than a carotid, probably
less painful since you don't muck around, and faster. And much less
messy.

Hah, you say, how can anybody possibly miss a carotid?! Well, when it's
YOUR neck, you can miss. On the other hand, if you hit it and change
your mind, it's easier to survive. Direct pressure and 911 and you
might just possibly make it. With the heart, it's much harder. It
happens, but not often.

SBH
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Carey Gregory
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PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 5:41 am    Post subject: Re: Suicide, knives, veins Reply with quote

"Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com" <sbharris@ix.netcom.com> wrote:

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Hah, you say, how can anybody possibly miss a carotid?! Well, when it's
YOUR neck, you can miss. On the other hand, if you hit it and change
your mind, it's easier to survive. Direct pressure and 911 and you
might just possibly make it. With the heart, it's much harder. It
happens, but not often.

Bah. You just wanted to quote Shakespeare.

;-)
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