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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:11 am    Post subject: Re: Chung's "usual and customary speaker's fee of US$30,000.00" WAS:Re:Where is the spike? Reply with quote

"Bob (this one)" wrote:
Quote:

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

Once in front of a conference room of folks who had each paid US$1850.00
to hear me speak about the 2PD-OMER Approach,

Right.

Yes.

All praises belong to my heavenly Father, Whom I love with all my heart,
soul, mind and strength :-)

In Christ's love and service,

Andrew

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:11 am    Post subject: Re: OT/ Healing by Christ Reply with quote

TooSweet wrote:
Quote:

In the last days Christians will be persecuted for their faith. I stand
ready and firm in my beliefs. I did not come onto the board to cause
dissension. If you slap my cheek I will gladly offer you the other.
It is all about peace.

martha

The Messiah teaches from Matthew 5:

11Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely
say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12Rejoice and be glad,
because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they
persecuted the prophets who were before you.

May God add His blessings to the writing of His Word here in ASD and
SMC, in Lord Jesus' most precious and holy name.

Amen.

In Christ's love and service,

Andrew

--
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Board-Certified Cardiologist

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:11 am    Post subject: Re: Could I really be pre-diabetic Reply with quote

"Bob (this one)" wrote:
Quote:

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
"Bob (this one)" wrote:

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

"Bob (this one)" wrote:

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

"Bob (this one)" wrote:

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

You may hear me speak **about the 2PD-OMER Approach** in
person

**Emphasis added**

Between presentations of Mary Kay cosmetics, face painting
and banjo music. <LOL

"Written laughter is silent despair."

"And sometimes a cigar is just a cigar."

Yes, the 2PD-OMER Approach is just the 2PD-OMER Approach and not
a diet.

But Andrew, we weren't talking about that in this post

Actually, we were. See emphasis above. Sorry, Bob.

Actually *you* were trying to confine it to that.

It seems that your obsession with the 2PD-OMER Approach has gotten the
better of you.

Again, sorry, Bob.

You will remain in my prayers, dear Bob, whom I love, in Lord Christ's
holy name.

May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and
Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the
fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make
His presence known here on Usenet Smile

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS)
thereby bringing this thread back on topic in these NGs :-)

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/wtloss.asp

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/press.asp

You may hear me speak about the 2PD-OMER Approach in person and meet
others who have been using this WOE here:

http://www.TheHealthFair.com

You may also choose to have me speak to your group or organization about
the 2PD-OMER Approach in person for the usual and customary speaker's
fee of US$30,000.00 made as a tax-deductible contribution to
TheWellnessFoundation.com (it remains my choice to not profit personally
from the 2PD-OMER Approach):

http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com

In Christ's love and service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:11 am    Post subject: Re: The invisible 635, 500 5-year-planners... WAS:Re: Could it be amistake Reply with quote

"Bob (this one)" wrote:
Quote:

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
"Bob (this one)" wrote:

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:


"Bob (this one)" wrote:


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:


"Bob (this one)" wrote:


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

Actually no diet and/or exercise regimen has been shown to bring about
lasting clinically significant weight loss as has been observed in the
more than 625,550 people who have had more than 5 years experience using
the 2PD-OMER Approach.

Funny how no one seems to be clamoring for a newsgroup for all these
successful dieters to communicate with each other.

The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet, dear Bob.

Sure it is.

No. Sorry dear Bob.

So you say, but since you lie about so many things, it's just another
puzzling one.

"Truth is a puzzle for the untruthful."

Hilarious.

Sorry the truth causes you despair, dear Bob.

In Christ's love and service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:11 am    Post subject: Re: They paid me US$1850.00, says Chung WAS:Re: Where is the spike? Reply with quote

"Bob (this one)" wrote:
Quote:

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

"Bob (this one)" wrote:

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

"Bob (this one)" wrote:

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

Once in front of a conference room of folks who had each paid US$1850.00
to hear me speak about the 2PD-OMER Approach,

Really...?

Yes. Sorry, Bob.

Oh, no need to be sorry. If it actually happened, it means you can
afford to go to better restaurants.

Perhaps in the hustle and bustle of your busy day, you didn't notice the
questions you deleted without answering. Did they pay *you* for this?
Was it a conference where you, by the way, had another 1/2 hour after
the clowns and face painting and you were an "Oh, BTW" speaker while the
band took intermission?

How boastful. How phony. What was the event that people paid $1850 to
specifically hear *you*?

Oh, no need to be sorry.

It remains my choice to ask for your forgiveness as the truth that I
convey causes you injury.

"As if truth could cause injury."

Nonetheless, you seem hurt by the truth. Again, sorry Bob.

In Christ's love and service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:11 am    Post subject: Re: What's the name of the restaurant? WAS:Re: Could I really bepre-diabetic Reply with quote

"Bob (this one)" wrote:
Quote:

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

As for your question, the name of the restaurant that is selling food by
weight is not important because there are others following suit and in
time, this method of selling food will also become commonplace around
where you live.

So, let's see how it is. Chung tells us all about a wonderful restaurant
that sells lobster, shrimp, steaks and other expensive things for less
than $5 a pound and won't say its *name*. Wonder why he can't just type
*the name of the restaurant*?

"All will be revealed to those who choose to spend eternity with the
Lord."

In Christ's love and service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

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(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:11 am    Post subject: Re: Sample "Portfolio" Diet. Reply with quote

Quentin Grady wrote:
Quote:

Sample “Portfolio” Diet

Breakfast: oat bran cereal & toast with fruit jam,
fruit, soy milk

Lunch: vegetarian chili, soy deli slices on oat bran
bread with a tomato, fruit

Dinner: black beans & ground soy with barley &
sautéed vegetables (like okra, eggplant, onion, red
pepper), salad

Snacks: almonds, soy milk or yogurt; also psyllium
fiber supplement (Metamucil)

G'day G'day Folks,

While this version of a portfolio diet is not likely to suit many T2
diabetics it does make a starting place for experimenting.

Perhaps the black bean/barley combination with sauteed vegetables will
spark some body's fertile imagination. Black bean and pearl barley
are both low GI. Black bean is equivalent to lentil and green beans
ie 30. Pearled barley is even lower, 25.

The "Portfolio" Diet can certainly be dovetailed with the 2PD-OMER
Approach:

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/wtloss.asp

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/press.asp

You may hear me speak about the 2PD-OMER Approach in person and meet
others who have been using this WOE here:

http://www.TheHealthFair.com

You may also choose to have me speak to your group or organization about
the 2PD-OMER Approach in person for the usual and customary speaker's
fee of US$30,000.00 made as a tax-deductible contribution to
TheWellnessFoundation.com (it remains my choice to not profit personally
from the 2PD-OMER Approach):

http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com

In Christ's love and service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

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(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
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Bob (this one)
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:33 am    Post subject: Re: OT/ Healing by Christ Reply with quote

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Quote:
"Bob (this one)" wrote:

TooSweet wrote:

In the last days Christians will be persecuted for their faith. I stand
ready and firm in my beliefs. I did not come onto the board to cause
dissension. If you slap my cheek I will gladly offer you the other.
It is all about peace.

Christians are - by enormous margins - the majority of people in the
U.S. The administration is clearly Christian-based. Congress, too.

Thankfully, this country is indeed one nation **under God** and receives
His blessings accordingly, in Lord Jesus' most precious and holy name.

You sound like all fanatics who try to suck up to God. My favorite
church bulletin board notice says, "Just pray. God knows the details."
You don't seem to understand that.

Quote:
It is through the love of Christ that non-christians are free from the
persecution experienced by minority groups in non-christian nations.
You should be thankful, dear Bob, for the love that we collectively as
the body of Christ have for you.

I'll take my chances without your "goodwill."

Your "love" is as fake as your hospital admitting privileges.

Pastorio
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Bob (this one)
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:35 am    Post subject: Re: OT/ Healing by Christ Reply with quote

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Quote:
"Bob (this one)" wrote:

Uncle Enrico wrote:


Bob (this one) wrote:


TooSweet wrote:


In the last days Christians will be persecuted for their faith. I stand
ready and firm in my beliefs. I did not come onto the board to cause
dissension. If you slap my cheek I will gladly offer you the other.
It is all about peace.

Christians are - by enormous margins - the majority of people in the
U.S. The administration is clearly Christian-based. Congress, too. The
fastest-growing religious group is Christians. It seems to me to be
pretty hard to make much of a case for persecution under those
circumstances. Sounds pretty lame when a group that represents more
than 80% of a population claims to be being beaten up.

Back then Christians were fed to lions and crucified by the side of
roads, sure. But nowadays...? Doesn't look much like it.

Just my viewpoint. But peace would be nice.

Pastorio

Seems like the anti-God crowd outnumbers Martha, me and Andrew. Just my
opinion.

Lose the chip, featherweight. And stop considering yourself quite so
buddy-buddy with the creator of the universe. Your hubris is showing.

"Those who have been reborn of water and the Holy Spirit have died to
self and all its trappings (hubris)."

Then it's obvious that neither you nor Enrico are "reborn of water and
the Holy Spirit" or you wouldn't be so filled with yourselves.

Pastorio
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Bob (this one)
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:35 am    Post subject: Re: Chung's "usual and customary speaker's fee of US$30,000.00" WAS:Re:Where is the spike? Reply with quote

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Quote:
"Bob (this one)" wrote:

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

Once in front of a conference room of folks who had each paid US$1850.00
to hear me speak about the 2PD-OMER Approach,

They each paid $1850 (No need for the extra zeros - looks like some
shyster inflating appearances. Chung also tries to make it look like
more money when he posts "US$30,000.00." Remember significant figures
from high school math, Chungster?) and Chung says he performs his lunacy
"in person for the usual and customary speaker's fee of US$30,000.00"
<http://www.tagrimm.com/speaker/pricing.html>
<http://www.speakinc.com/faq.html>
<http://premierespeakers.com/tools_faq.cfm?faqpage=4>

So lets see how many people were there...

Divide $30,000 by $1850 and it looks like there were 16.216216 people there.

Now if all those 625,500 people each paid $1850, he'd be looking at
$1,157,175,000. And, at no extra charge, they could touch the hem of his
garment. Well, some of them, anyway.

Just like in real life...

Whole presentation about the 2 pound diet would take about 6 minutes.
Assuming 4 1/2 minutes of questions.

No, seriously...

Pastorio
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Bob (this one)
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:38 am    Post subject: Re: They paid me US$1850.00, says Chung WAS:Re: Where is the spike? Reply with quote

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Quote:
"Bob (this one)" wrote:

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:


"Bob (this one)" wrote:


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:


"Bob (this one)" wrote:


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:


Once in front of a conference room of folks who had each paid US$1850.00
to hear me speak about the 2PD-OMER Approach,

Really...?

Yes. Sorry, Bob.

Oh, no need to be sorry. If it actually happened, it means you can
afford to go to better restaurants.

Perhaps in the hustle and bustle of your busy day, you didn't notice the
questions you deleted without answering. Did they pay *you* for this?
Was it a conference where you, by the way, had another 1/2 hour after
the clowns and face painting and you were an "Oh, BTW" speaker while the
band took intermission?

How boastful. How phony. What was the event that people paid $1850 to
specifically hear *you*?

Oh, no need to be sorry.

It remains my choice to ask for your forgiveness as the truth that I
convey causes you injury.

"As if truth could cause injury."

Nonetheless, you seem hurt by the truth. Again, sorry Bob.

The absolutely funny, hilarious part of all this is that Chung is such a
pandering fraud that he accepted my fake "quote" above and actually
replied to it. <LOL>

But the dear boy forgot to answer the questions:

Did they pay *you* for this? Was it a conference where you, by the way,
had another 1/2 hour after the clowns and face painting and you were an
"Oh, BTW" speaker while the band took intermission?

How boastful. How phony. What was the event that people paid $1850 to
specifically hear *you*?

Hubris.

Pastorio
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Bob (this one)
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:42 am    Post subject: Chung's phony presentations for money WAS:Re: Could I really be pre-diabetic Reply with quote

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

Quote:
"Bob (this one)" wrote:


Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:


You may hear me speak **about the 2PD-OMER Approach**
in person

I'm trying to get information now, I already know all there is to know
about the 2 pound diet.

Quote:
and meet others who have been using this WOE here:

http://www.TheHealthFair.com

Really. Click on this. Wonderful. Poor sap doesn't have the IQ to be
embarrassed that this is all the forum he'll ever get for his wacko diet.

Quote:
You may also choose to have me speak to your group or organization
about the 2PD-OMER Approach in person for the usual and customary
speaker's fee of US$30,000.00

<LOL> There is no "usual and customary speaker's fee of US$30,000.00."

Take a look:
<http://www.tagrimm.com/speaker/pricing.html>

Here's from a speaker's bureau FAQ:
"Q: How much do speakers charge?"
"A: Speakers' fees range anywhere from $2000 to over $100,000. However,
most of our customers choose speakers in the $5000 to $30,000 range for
a 60-90 minute presentation. In addition to the fee, you can expect to
pay for full coach or first-class airfare, ground transportation, hotel
accommodations, meals, incidentals such as parking and tips, and
audio-visual requirements. Longer presentations will generally require a
higher fee."
<http://www.speakinc.com/faq.html>

Here's another one:
"How much do speakers cost?
Speaker fees are impacted greatly by factors such as name recognition,
demand for the speaker's services, location of event, length of
presentation and many more. At Premiere Speakers Bureau, our speakers'
appearance fees range from $2,500 to more than $100,000."
<http://premierespeakers.com/tools_faq.cfm?faqpage=4>

HTH

Pastorio
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:47 am    Post subject: Re: What's the name of the restaurant? WAS:Re: Could I really bepre-diabetic Reply with quote

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Quote:
"Bob (this one)" wrote:

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

As for your question, the name of the restaurant that is selling food by
weight is not important because there are others following suit and in
time, this method of selling food will also become commonplace around
where you live.

So, let's see how it is. Chung tells us all about a wonderful restaurant
that sells lobster, shrimp, steaks and other expensive things for less
than $5 a pound and won't say its *name*. Wonder why he can't just type
*the name of the restaurant*?

"All will be revealed to those who choose to spend eternity with the
Lord."

And about you, much is already revealed and it's too obvious to miss.

But the Mighty Chung won't tell us the name of the restaurant because,
if history is any predictor, he's lying again, as is his "usual and
customary" practice. His theme song should be "Slip, sliding away."

So Chung. What's the name of the restaurant? Tell us who's so stupid
that they sell lobster cheaper than they can buy it for. Explain to your
fan here who it is that is so good to the consuming public. Share with
all these people you claim to love. Show everyone how you post
truthfully and reveal the name so your dieters can join you there in a
raging festival of weight control

Just tell us the name of the restaurant...

Simple.

Pastorio

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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 3:53 am    Post subject: Re: The invisible 625, 500 5-year-planners... WAS:Re: Could it be amistake Reply with quote

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Quote:
"Bob (this one)" wrote:

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

"Bob (this one)" wrote:

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

"Bob (this one)" wrote:

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

"Bob (this one)" wrote:

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

Actually no diet and/or exercise regimen has been shown to bring about
lasting clinically significant weight loss as has been observed in the
more than 625,550 people who have had more than 5 years experience using
the 2PD-OMER Approach.

Funny how no one seems to be clamoring for a newsgroup for all these
successful dieters to communicate with each other.

The 2PD-OMER Approach is not a diet, dear Bob.

Sure it is.

No. Sorry dear Bob.

So you say, but since you lie about so many things, it's just another
puzzling one.

"Truth is a puzzle for the untruthful."

Hilarious.

Oh, Andrew, I know it couldn't have been deliberate, but you cut off the
rest of my comment. Here, let me put it back so no one would accuse you
of slimy, fraud. Again.

Hilarious. And "Bullshit is lunch for petunias."

But where are all these people - 625,500 - who are such ardent
supporters of this wacko 2 pound diet? Surely, if these people have been
doing it for more than 5 years, their numbers must have swelled to
millions today just on the sheer exuberant word of mouth from all these
thrilled thin folks. How can joyous, successful millions of happy
dieters be so invisible? No web sites, blogs, articles, radio programs,
tv programs, endorsements by *any* organization not connected to
Chung... nobody knows about it but the smiling happy natives in SCM
doing their cheerful folk dances.
Quote:

Sorry the truth causes you despair, dear Bob.

I can see why you would confuse someone pointing and laughing for
someone in despair. It's your wonderful "Truth Discernment Ray Gun" in
action. Can you "discern" where all these 625,500 people are and why
they're so completely invisible to the media and the public?

Pastorio
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 12, 2005 6:51 am    Post subject: Re: Healing by Christ Reply with quote

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:42D3040F.F0564944@heartmdphd.com...

Quote:
"The Lord delights in helping people with things that are otherwise
impossible."

So how many diabetics has he cured then? And learn to fucking snip, if you
please.



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