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Dr. Jai Maharaj
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 5:11 am    Post subject: WHAT MILK IS THE RIGHT MILK FOR CHILDREN? Reply with quote

WHAT MILK IS THE RIGHT MILK FOR CHILDREN?

Forwarded message from Fidyl <fidyl@yahoo.com>

[ Subject: What Milk is the Right Milk For Children?
[ From: Fidyl <fidyl@yahoo.com>
[ Date: Thu, 28 Jul 2005

What Milk is the Right Milk For Children?

By Frederick Patenaude

The article: "What milk to feed a newborn baby?" by
Professor J. Lestradet, published in the scientific
journal: Journal of Nutrition and Diet (Cahiers de
nutrition et de diététique), March 1982, stated:

"Any kind of milk other than mother's milk, used in an
unaltered state, will cause major disruptions.
Differences between types of milk are fundamental.

As a matter of fact, there is twice as much lactose in
human milk as in cow's milk, and it is known that lactose
is vital for brain growth, which is twice as quick in a
baby as in a calf. There is an overload of protein in
cow's milk, which contains three times as much protein as
human milk. It is to be noted that the liver and kidneys
of a bottle-fed child are 30% larger than the very same
organs in a breast-fed child.

Cow's milk doesn't address calcium absorption better than
human milk, although it contains three times as much
calcium. Cow's milk contains five times as much phosphate
as human milk, and this causes two-thirds of the calcium
to be retained in the gut -- the result being that a
bottle-fed child tends to have low blood calcium.

Furthermore, cow's milk, whether formulated or not,
contains iron and this enhances the growth of pathogenic
bacteria (which accounts for excretory smells in the
feeding bottle). Using partly skimmed spray-dried milk,
one is going the other way and setting up an iron
deficiency in the newborn, which is, additionally,
worsened since cow's milk protein irritates the digestive
tract and causes microscopic bleeding.

As for salt, which cow's milk is three times as high in,
it is known to cause water retention and high blood
pressure. There are grounds for thinking that starting a
child out on too much salt could well account for some
cases of adult high blood pressure."

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 9:07 am    Post subject: Re: WHAT MILK IS THE RIGHT MILK FOR CHILDREN? Reply with quote

"Dr. Jai Maharaj" <usenet@mantra.com> wrote:
Quote:
WHAT MILK IS THE RIGHT MILK FOR CHILDREN?
Hindu Holocaust Museum
http://www.mantra.com/holocaust

Should there be a Cow's Milk Holocaust Museum?
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 2:17 pm    Post subject: Re: WHAT MILK IS THE RIGHT MILK FOR CHILDREN? Reply with quote

Quote:
I noticed the date from 1982. Why did it take so long for
medicine / science / lay persons to realize cow's milk may not be suitable
for humans?

The casein protein contained within cow's milk may be difficult
for many humans to digest.


I've already discussed this topic with you and given you links to
research the information. I'm starting to think you aren't really
interested in the answer, but rather you're just here to bash cow's
milk.

There are many Masai tribes, some healthier than others. One specific
tribe was studied by Dr. Weston Price in the early 1900's. Dr. Price
studied their health as related to their diet, which was mainly cow's
milk, meat and cow's blood. He found that they had excellent health,
strong teeth and lived long lives... quite different from Masai tribes
that lived hundreds of miles away and did not use cow's milk.
Go to www.westonaprice.org and search for the word "masai" You'll find
several articles talking about their health and diet.

The issue is not casein. It's the lack of other nutrients in today's
milk as a result of A) pasteurization and B) poor diets of the animals
the milk comes from. It is a well known fact that milk from animals
eating the diet nature intended will have a different (and more
appropriate) nutritional profile than milk from today's factory farmed
animals.

Additionally, the constant antibiotics received by the cows makes its
way into milk. That, in turn, kills of beneficial bacteria in our
digestive tract, making it even more difficult for us to digest our
food.

If you're going to run around the news group bashing milk, you should at
least take the time to educate yourself about all sides of the argument.

Max.
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 3:59 pm    Post subject: Re: WHAT MILK IS THE RIGHT MILK FOR CHILDREN? Reply with quote

In article <Mh2He.11523$oZ.10660@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"George Lagergren" <gel44@earthlink.net> posted:

Quote:
Dr. Jai Maharaj posted
WHAT MILK IS THE RIGHT MILK FOR CHILDREN?
[...]
Hindu Holocaust Museum
http://www.mantra.com/holocaust

Should there be a Cow's Milk Holocaust Museum?

Yes, and also a Cow Holocaust Museum.

WHY HINDUS DON'T EAT MEAT

Besides being an expression of compassion
for animals, vegetarianism is followed for
ecological and health rationales

REASONS

In the past fifty years, millions of meat-eaters --
Hindus and non-Hindus -- have made the personal decision
to stop eating the flesh of other creatures. There are
five major motivations for such a decision:

1. The Dharmic Law Reason

Ahinsa, the law of noninjury, is the Hindu's first
duty in fulfilling religious obligations to God and God's
creation as defined by Vedic scripture.

2. The Karmic Consequences Reason

All of our actions, including our choice of food,
have Karmic consequences. By involving oneself in the
cycle of inflicting injury, pain and death, even
indirectly by eating other creatures, one must in the
future experience in equal measure the suffering caused.

3. The Spiritual Reason

Food is the source of the body's chemistry, and what
we ingest affects our consciousnes, emotions and
experiential patterns. If one wants to live in higher
consciousness, in peace and happiness and love for all
creatures, then he cannot eat meat, fish, shellfish, fowl
or eggs. By ingesting the grosser chemistries of animal
foods, one introduces into the body and mind anger,
jealousy, anxiety, suspicion and a terrible fear of
death, all of which are locked into the the flesh of the
butchered creatures. For these reasons, vegetarians live
in higher consciousness and meat-eaters abide in lower
consciousness.

4. The Health Reason

Medical studies prove that a vegetarian diet is
easier to digest, provides a wider ranger of nutrients
and imposes fewer burdens and impurities on the body.
Vegetarians are less susceptible to all the major
diseases that afflict contemporary humanity, and thus
live longer, healthier, more productive lives. They have
fewer physical complaints, less frequent visits to the
doctor, fewer dental problems and smaller medical bills.
Their immune system is stronger, their bodies are purer,
more refined and skin more beautiful.

5. The Ecological Reason

Planet Earth is suffereing. In large measure, the
escalating loss of species, destruction of ancient
rainforests to create pasture lands for live stock, loss
of topsoils and the consequent increase of water
impurities and air pollution have all been traced to the
single fact of meat in the human diet. No decision that
we can make as individuals or as a race can have such a
dramatic effect on the improvement of our planetary
ecology as the decision not to eat meat.

HISTORY

The book FOOD FOR THE SPIRIT, VEGETARIANISM AND THE WORLD
RELIGIONS, observes, "Despite popular knowledge of meat-
eating's adverse effects, the nonvegetarian diet became
increasingly widespread among the Hindus after the two
major invasions by foreign powers, first the Muslims and
later the British. With them came the desire to be
'civilized,' to eat as did the Saheeb. Those atually
trained in Vedic knowledge, however, never adopted a
meat-oriented diet, and the pious Hindu still observes
vegetarian principles as a matter of religious duty.

"That vegetarianism has always been widespread in
India is clear from the earliest Vedic texts. This was
observed by the ancient traveler Megasthenes and also by
Fa-Hsien, a Chinese Buddhist monk who, in the fifth
century, traveled to India in order to obtain authentic
copies of the scriptures.

"These scriptures unambiguously support the meatless
way of life. In the MAHABHARAT, for instance, the great
warrior Bheeshm explains to Yuddhishtira, eldest of the
Paandav princes, that the meat of animals is like the
flesh of one's own son. Similarly, the MANUSMRITI
declares that one should 'refrain from eating all kinds
of meat,' for such eating involves killing and and leads
to Karmic bondage (Bandh) [5.49]. Elsewhere in the Vedic
literature, the last of the great Vedic kings, Maharaja
Parikshit, is quoted as saying that 'only the animal-
killer cannot relish the message of the Absolute Truth
[Shrimad Bhagvatam 10.1.4].'"

SCRIPTURE

He who desires to augment his own flesh by eating
the flesh of other creatures lives in misery in whatever
species he may take his birth.
MAHABHARAT 115.47

Those high-souled persons who desire beauty,
faultlessness of limbs, long life, understanding, mental
and physical strength and memory should abstain from acts
of injury. MAHABHARAT 18.115.8

The very name of cow is Aghnya ["not to be killed"],
indicating that they should never be slaughtered. Who,
then could slay them? Surely, one who kills a cow or a
bull commits a heinous crime. MAHABHARAT, SHANTIPARV
262.47

The purchaser of flesh performs Hinsa (violence) by
his wealth; he who eats flesh does so by enjoying its
taste; the killer does Hinsa by actually tying and
killing the animal. Thus, there are three forms of
killing: he who brings flesh or sends for it, he who cuts
off the limbs of an animal, and he who purchases, sells
or cooks flesh and eats it -- all of these are to be
considered meat-eaters. MAHABHARAT, ANU 115.40

He who sees that the Lord of all is ever the same
in all that is -- immortal in the field of mortality --
he sees the truth. And when a man sees that the God in
himself is the same God in all that is, he hurts not
himself by hurting others. Then he goes, indeed, to the
highest path. BHAGVAD GEETA 13.27-28

Ahinsa is the highest Dharm. Ahinsa is the best
Tapas. Ahinsa is the greatest gift. Ahinsa is the
highest self-control. Ahinsa is the highest sacrifice.
Ahinsa is the highest power. Ahinsa is the highest
friend. Ahinsa is the highest truth. Ahinsa is the
highest teaching. MAHABHARAT 18.116.37-41

What is the good way? It is the path that reflects
on how it may avoid killing any creature. TIRUKURAL 324

All that lives will press palms together in
prayerful adoration of those who refuse to slaughter and
savor meat. TIRUKURAL 260

What is virtuous conduct? It is never destroting
life, for killing leads to every other sin. TIRUKURAL
312, 321

Goodness is never one with the minds of these two:
one who wields a weapon and one who feasts on a
creature's flesh. TIRUKURAL 253

Copyright (C) 1993, Himalayan Academy, All Rights
Reserved. The information contained in this news report
may not be republished in any form without the prior
written authority of Himalayan Academy.
This is an authorized reproduction.

Jai Maharaj
Born in a Hindu family in Bharat, and a vegetarian since birth
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti

Hindu Holocaust Museum
http://www.mantra.com/holocaust

Hindu life, principles, spirituality and philosophy
http://www.hindu.org
http://www.hindunet.org

The truth about Islam and Muslims
http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate

The terrorist mission of Jesus stated in the Christian bible:

"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not so send
peace, but a sword.
"For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the
daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in
law.
"And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
- Matthew 10:34-36.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 12:03 am    Post subject: Re: WHAT MILK IS THE RIGHT MILK FOR CHILDREN? Reply with quote

"Dr. Jai Maharaj" <usenet@mantra.com> wrote in message
news:FaEZa1409aGPqo@HloAn...
Quote:
In article <Mh2He.11523$oZ.10660@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"George Lagergren" <gel44@earthlink.net> posted:

Dr. Jai Maharaj posted
WHAT MILK IS THE RIGHT MILK FOR CHILDREN?
[...]
Hindu Holocaust Museum
http://www.mantra.com/holocaust

Should there be a Cow's Milk Holocaust Museum?

Yes, and also a Cow Holocaust Museum.

WHY HINDUS DON'T EAT MEAT

Besides being an expression of compassion
for animals, vegetarianism is followed for
ecological and health rationales

REASONS

In the past fifty years, millions of meat-eaters --
Hindus and non-Hindus -- have made the personal decision
to stop eating the flesh of other creatures. There are
five major motivations for such a decision:

1. The Dharmic Law Reason

Ahinsa, the law of noninjury, is the Hindu's first
duty in fulfilling religious obligations to God and God's
creation as defined by Vedic scripture.

2. The Karmic Consequences Reason

All of our actions, including our choice of food,
have Karmic consequences. By involving oneself in the
cycle of inflicting injury, pain and death, even
indirectly by eating other creatures, one must in the
future experience in equal measure the suffering caused.

3. The Spiritual Reason

Food is the source of the body's chemistry, and what
we ingest affects our consciousnes, emotions and
experiential patterns. If one wants to live in higher
consciousness, in peace and happiness and love for all
creatures, then he cannot eat meat, fish, shellfish, fowl
or eggs. By ingesting the grosser chemistries of animal
foods, one introduces into the body and mind anger,
jealousy, anxiety, suspicion and a terrible fear of
death, all of which are locked into the the flesh of the
butchered creatures. For these reasons, vegetarians live
in higher consciousness and meat-eaters abide in lower
consciousness.

4. The Health Reason

Medical studies prove that a vegetarian diet is
easier to digest, provides a wider ranger of nutrients
and imposes fewer burdens and impurities on the body.
Vegetarians are less susceptible to all the major
diseases that afflict contemporary humanity, and thus
live longer, healthier, more productive lives. They have
fewer physical complaints, less frequent visits to the
doctor, fewer dental problems and smaller medical bills.
Their immune system is stronger, their bodies are purer,
more refined and skin more beautiful.

5. The Ecological Reason

Planet Earth is suffereing. In large measure, the
escalating loss of species, destruction of ancient
rainforests to create pasture lands for live stock, loss
of topsoils and the consequent increase of water
impurities and air pollution have all been traced to the
single fact of meat in the human diet. No decision that
we can make as individuals or as a race can have such a
dramatic effect on the improvement of our planetary
ecology as the decision not to eat meat.

HISTORY

The book FOOD FOR THE SPIRIT, VEGETARIANISM AND THE WORLD
RELIGIONS, observes, "Despite popular knowledge of meat-
eating's adverse effects, the nonvegetarian diet became
increasingly widespread among the Hindus after the two
major invasions by foreign powers, first the Muslims and
later the British. With them came the desire to be
'civilized,' to eat as did the Saheeb. Those atually
trained in Vedic knowledge, however, never adopted a
meat-oriented diet, and the pious Hindu still observes
vegetarian principles as a matter of religious duty.

"That vegetarianism has always been widespread in
India is clear from the earliest Vedic texts. This was
observed by the ancient traveler Megasthenes and also by
Fa-Hsien, a Chinese Buddhist monk who, in the fifth
century, traveled to India in order to obtain authentic
copies of the scriptures.

"These scriptures unambiguously support the meatless
way of life. In the MAHABHARAT, for instance, the great
warrior Bheeshm explains to Yuddhishtira, eldest of the
Paandav princes, that the meat of animals is like the
flesh of one's own son. Similarly, the MANUSMRITI
declares that one should 'refrain from eating all kinds
of meat,' for such eating involves killing and and leads
to Karmic bondage (Bandh) [5.49]. Elsewhere in the Vedic
literature, the last of the great Vedic kings, Maharaja
Parikshit, is quoted as saying that 'only the animal-
killer cannot relish the message of the Absolute Truth
[Shrimad Bhagvatam 10.1.4].'"

SCRIPTURE

He who desires to augment his own flesh by eating
the flesh of other creatures lives in misery in whatever
species he may take his birth.
MAHABHARAT 115.47

Those high-souled persons who desire beauty,
faultlessness of limbs, long life, understanding, mental
and physical strength and memory should abstain from acts
of injury. MAHABHARAT 18.115.8

The very name of cow is Aghnya ["not to be killed"],
indicating that they should never be slaughtered. Who,
then could slay them? Surely, one who kills a cow or a
bull commits a heinous crime. MAHABHARAT, SHANTIPARV
262.47

The purchaser of flesh performs Hinsa (violence) by
his wealth; he who eats flesh does so by enjoying its
taste; the killer does Hinsa by actually tying and
killing the animal. Thus, there are three forms of
killing: he who brings flesh or sends for it, he who cuts
off the limbs of an animal, and he who purchases, sells
or cooks flesh and eats it -- all of these are to be
considered meat-eaters. MAHABHARAT, ANU 115.40

He who sees that the Lord of all is ever the same
in all that is -- immortal in the field of mortality --
he sees the truth. And when a man sees that the God in
himself is the same God in all that is, he hurts not
himself by hurting others. Then he goes, indeed, to the
highest path. BHAGVAD GEETA 13.27-28

Ahinsa is the highest Dharm. Ahinsa is the best
Tapas. Ahinsa is the greatest gift. Ahinsa is the
highest self-control. Ahinsa is the highest sacrifice.
Ahinsa is the highest power. Ahinsa is the highest
friend. Ahinsa is the highest truth. Ahinsa is the
highest teaching. MAHABHARAT 18.116.37-41

What is the good way? It is the path that reflects
on how it may avoid killing any creature. TIRUKURAL 324

All that lives will press palms together in
prayerful adoration of those who refuse to slaughter and
savor meat. TIRUKURAL 260

What is virtuous conduct? It is never destroting
life, for killing leads to every other sin. TIRUKURAL
312, 321

Goodness is never one with the minds of these two:
one who wields a weapon and one who feasts on a
creature's flesh. TIRUKURAL 253

Copyright (C) 1993, Himalayan Academy, All Rights
Reserved. The information contained in this news report
may not be republished in any form without the prior
written authority of Himalayan Academy.
This is an authorized reproduction.

Jai Maharaj
Born in a Hindu family in Bharat, and a vegetarian since birth
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti

Hindu Holocaust Museum
http://www.mantra.com/holocaust

Hindu life, principles, spirituality and philosophy
http://www.hindu.org
http://www.hindunet.org

The truth about Islam and Muslims
http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate

The terrorist mission of Jesus stated in the Christian bible:

"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not so send
peace, but a sword.
"For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the
daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in
law.
"And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
- Matthew 10:34-36.

o Not for commercial use. Solely to be fairly used for the
educational
purposes of research and open discussion. The contents of this post may
not
have been authored by, and do not necessarily represent the opinion of the
poster. The contents are protected by copyright law and the exemption for
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o If you send private e-mail to me, it will likely not be read,
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current
e-mail and postal addresses, and live-voice telephone number.
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are
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 12:13 am    Post subject: Re: WHAT MILK IS THE RIGHT MILK FOR CHILDREN? Reply with quote

George wrote:
Quote:
The casein protein contained within cow's milk may be difficult
for many humans to digest.

Max C." <me@noemail.com> replied:
I've already discussed this topic with you and given you links to
research the information. I'm starting to think you aren't really
interested in the answer, but rather you're just here to bash cow's
milk.

I know that you say raw cow's milk is acceptable for human
consumption. Which may be fine since its enzymes is still active. But
what percentage of the total cow's milk drinkers population actually drink
raw cow's milk? The percentage should be quite small.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 1:50 am    Post subject: Re: WHAT MILK IS THE RIGHT MILK FOR CHILDREN? Reply with quote

In article <z_ednehj2u56H3DfRVn-sg@comcast.com>,
"George Cherry" <GWCherryHatesGreenEggsAndSpam@alum.mit.edu> posted:
Quote:

Dr. Jai Maharaj posted:

In article <Mh2He.11523$oZ.10660@newsread2.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"George Lagergren" <gel44@earthlink.net> posted:

Dr. Jai Maharaj posted
WHAT MILK IS THE RIGHT MILK FOR CHILDREN?
[...]
Hindu Holocaust Museum
http://www.mantra.com/holocaust

Should there be a Cow's Milk Holocaust Museum?

Yes, and also a Cow Holocaust Museum.

WHY HINDUS DON'T EAT MEAT

Besides being an expression of compassion
for animals, vegetarianism is followed for
ecological and health rationales

REASONS

In the past fifty years, millions of meat-eaters --
Hindus and non-Hindus -- have made the personal decision
to stop eating the flesh of other creatures. There are
five major motivations for such a decision:

1. The Dharmic Law Reason

Ahinsa, the law of noninjury, is the Hindu's first
duty in fulfilling religious obligations to God and God's
creation as defined by Vedic scripture.

2. The Karmic Consequences Reason

All of our actions, including our choice of food,
have Karmic consequences. By involving oneself in the
cycle of inflicting injury, pain and death, even
indirectly by eating other creatures, one must in the
future experience in equal measure the suffering caused.

3. The Spiritual Reason

Food is the source of the body's chemistry, and what
we ingest affects our consciousnes, emotions and
experiential patterns. If one wants to live in higher
consciousness, in peace and happiness and love for all
creatures, then he cannot eat meat, fish, shellfish, fowl
or eggs. By ingesting the grosser chemistries of animal
foods, one introduces into the body and mind anger,
jealousy, anxiety, suspicion and a terrible fear of
death, all of which are locked into the the flesh of the
butchered creatures. For these reasons, vegetarians live
in higher consciousness and meat-eaters abide in lower
consciousness.

4. The Health Reason

Medical studies prove that a vegetarian diet is
easier to digest, provides a wider ranger of nutrients
and imposes fewer burdens and impurities on the body.
Vegetarians are less susceptible to all the major
diseases that afflict contemporary humanity, and thus
live longer, healthier, more productive lives. They have
fewer physical complaints, less frequent visits to the
doctor, fewer dental problems and smaller medical bills.
Their immune system is stronger, their bodies are purer,
more refined and skin more beautiful.

5. The Ecological Reason

Planet Earth is suffereing. In large measure, the
escalating loss of species, destruction of ancient
rainforests to create pasture lands for live stock, loss
of topsoils and the consequent increase of water
impurities and air pollution have all been traced to the
single fact of meat in the human diet. No decision that
we can make as individuals or as a race can have such a
dramatic effect on the improvement of our planetary
ecology as the decision not to eat meat.

HISTORY

The book FOOD FOR THE SPIRIT, VEGETARIANISM AND THE WORLD
RELIGIONS, observes, "Despite popular knowledge of meat-
eating's adverse effects, the nonvegetarian diet became
increasingly widespread among the Hindus after the two
major invasions by foreign powers, first the Muslims and
later the British. With them came the desire to be
'civilized,' to eat as did the Saheeb. Those atually
trained in Vedic knowledge, however, never adopted a
meat-oriented diet, and the pious Hindu still observes
vegetarian principles as a matter of religious duty.

"That vegetarianism has always been widespread in
India is clear from the earliest Vedic texts. This was
observed by the ancient traveler Megasthenes and also by
Fa-Hsien, a Chinese Buddhist monk who, in the fifth
century, traveled to India in order to obtain authentic
copies of the scriptures.

"These scriptures unambiguously support the meatless
way of life. In the MAHABHARAT, for instance, the great
warrior Bheeshm explains to Yuddhishtira, eldest of the
Paandav princes, that the meat of animals is like the
flesh of one's own son. Similarly, the MANUSMRITI
declares that one should 'refrain from eating all kinds
of meat,' for such eating involves killing and and leads
to Karmic bondage (Bandh) [5.49]. Elsewhere in the Vedic
literature, the last of the great Vedic kings, Maharaja
Parikshit, is quoted as saying that 'only the animal-
killer cannot relish the message of the Absolute Truth
[Shrimad Bhagvatam 10.1.4].'"

SCRIPTURE

He who desires to augment his own flesh by eating
the flesh of other creatures lives in misery in whatever
species he may take his birth.
MAHABHARAT 115.47

Those high-souled persons who desire beauty,
faultlessness of limbs, long life, understanding, mental
and physical strength and memory should abstain from acts
of injury. MAHABHARAT 18.115.8

The very name of cow is Aghnya ["not to be killed"],
indicating that they should never be slaughtered. Who,
then could slay them? Surely, one who kills a cow or a
bull commits a heinous crime. MAHABHARAT, SHANTIPARV
262.47

The purchaser of flesh performs Hinsa (violence) by
his wealth; he who eats flesh does so by enjoying its
taste; the killer does Hinsa by actually tying and
killing the animal. Thus, there are three forms of
killing: he who brings flesh or sends for it, he who cuts
off the limbs of an animal, and he who purchases, sells
or cooks flesh and eats it -- all of these are to be
considered meat-eaters. MAHABHARAT, ANU 115.40

He who sees that the Lord of all is ever the same
in all that is -- immortal in the field of mortality --
he sees the truth. And when a man sees that the God in
himself is the same God in all that is, he hurts not
himself by hurting others. Then he goes, indeed, to the
highest path. BHAGVAD GEETA 13.27-28

Ahinsa is the highest Dharm. Ahinsa is the best
Tapas. Ahinsa is the greatest gift. Ahinsa is the
highest self-control. Ahinsa is the highest sacrifice.
Ahinsa is the highest power. Ahinsa is the highest
friend. Ahinsa is the highest truth. Ahinsa is the
highest teaching. MAHABHARAT 18.116.37-41

What is the good way? It is the path that reflects
on how it may avoid killing any creature. TIRUKURAL 324

All that lives will press palms together in
prayerful adoration of those who refuse to slaughter and
savor meat. TIRUKURAL 260

What is virtuous conduct? It is never destroting
life, for killing leads to every other sin. TIRUKURAL
312, 321

Goodness is never one with the minds of these two:
one who wields a weapon and one who feasts on a
creature's flesh. TIRUKURAL 253

Copyright (C) 1993, Himalayan Academy, All Rights
Reserved. The information contained in this news report
may not be republished in any form without the prior
written authority of Himalayan Academy.
This is an authorized reproduction.

Jai Maharaj
Born in a Hindu family in Bharat, and a vegetarian since birth
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti

Hindu Holocaust Museum
http://www.mantra.com/holocaust

Hindu life, principles, spirituality and philosophy
http://www.hindu.org
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The truth about Islam and Muslims
http://www.flex.com/~jai/satyamevajayate

The terrorist mission of Jesus stated in the Christian bible:

"Think not that I am come to send peace on earth: I came not so send
peace, but a sword.
"For I am come to set a man at variance against his father, and the
daughter against her mother, and the daughter in law against her mother in
law.
"And a man's foes shall be they of his own household.
- Matthew 10:34-36.

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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 9:03 am    Post subject: Re: WHAT MILK IS THE RIGHT MILK FOR CHILDREN? Reply with quote

Quote:
Dr. Jai Maharaj posted
WHAT MILK IS THE RIGHT MILK FOR CHILDREN?

Hindu Holocaust Museum
http://www.mantra.com/holocaust

Should there be a Cow's Milk Holocaust Museum?

Yes, and also a Cow Holocaust Museum.

Jai, why not add the following to your signature lines at the
end of all your messages?

Cow's Milk Holocaust Information
http://www.notmilk.com
http://www.panix.com/~nomilk

Thanks. George
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 5:48 pm    Post subject: Re: WHAT MILK IS THE RIGHT MILK FOR CHILDREN? Reply with quote

In article <YjnHe.1268$ns.859@newsread1.news.atl.earthlink.net>,
"George Lagergren" <gel44@earthlink.net> posted:

Quote:
Dr. Jai Maharaj posted

WHAT MILK IS THE RIGHT MILK FOR CHILDREN?

Hindu Holocaust Museum
http://www.mantra.com/holocaust

Should there be a Cow's Milk Holocaust Museum?

Yes, and also a Cow Holocaust Museum.

Jai, why not add the following to your signature lines at the
end of all your messages?

Cow's Milk Holocaust Information
http://www.notmilk.com
http://www.panix.com/~nomilk

Thanks. George

Appreciate the links, George. I am working on
an Animal Holocaust Museum (working title) and
will publish its URL when it is ready. The practice
of Ahinsa -- nonviolence -- is essential.

Namaste, and Aloha from Hawaii,

Jai Maharaj
http://www.mantra.com/jai
Om Shanti
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Max C.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 10:52 pm    Post subject: Re: WHAT MILK IS THE RIGHT MILK FOR CHILDREN? Reply with quote

Quote:
I know that you say raw cow's milk is acceptable for human
consumption. Which may be fine since its enzymes is still active. But
what percentage of the total cow's milk drinkers population actually drink
raw cow's milk? The percentage should be quite small.


Well, it depends on where you live. In California, raw milk is legal to
sell in retail stores. In most other states, it's only legal to sell at
grade a raw certified farms. In other states, it's totally illegal.
So, yes, it's a fairly small percentage. However, for those that CAN
obtain it (like me) it's a very high quality, health promoting food.
So, why spin your wheels trying to tell everyone that ALL milk is bad,
when it clearly isn't? If you spent that time trying to educate people
of the pitfalls of pasteurized milk AND the benefits of raw milk, our
country could see a come-back of a very health promoting food.
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PostPosted: Mon Aug 09, 2010 1:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is nice to know about the milk benefits to the children. As my view cow milk is not only helpful for the children only but also helpful to all ages. It increases the resistant power among the viral disease.
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