Detecting operatives for special interests in the NG

Phil Scott · medicine forum Guru Wannabe Joined: 23 Apr 2005 Posts: 103

Random idiocy of course clouds the water but not entirely.

Here is an analogy from a nutrition news group

Post about how good meat is for you: Vegans will post in
opposition.

Post about how vegitables are the way to go: The meat people
will post in oposition, and the meat lobby will hire vicious
idiots to try and obliterate you,

Post about the severe problems and corruption in Pharma and
notice who responds and how they respond for example... this
reached its peak on the NG with CodeX legislation pending,
then died off almost entirely after CodeX passed in the EU
(making therapeutic doses of some vitamins by prescription
only... a foot in the door for the rest to come.)

Viciousness tends to mark the special interests..but not
always... its a clue though, added with other clues and you
can devine who is an op and which vested interest it is
from....and who is just a random idiot.

ARS is a mix.

Often these days the ops come into the NG with all sweetness
and agreeability... eventually though, these have to attack
if their objective is to be reached....

vicious attack becomes a pretty good indicator .

Attack by itself is close, but not conclusive. by long shot

Persistence along any of these lines... the beneficent/
intelligent/ or vicious attack.... defines who is who in the
cluster phuck..... thats true here or on any other NG, or
in any other setting.

Phil Scott

monty1945@lycos.com · medicine forum addict Joined: 02 Apr 2006 Posts: 93

Yes Phil, it does seem that this newsgroup is filled with industry
shills and spokespeople for various interests. My posts have been
attacked in ludicrous ways in the past, more than once for obvious
"typo" errors in very long posts. I've talked about the techniques
they use. For example, I recommened books to people, and I even say
things like, "overall, it is fairly good," but then the shills attack
me, finding something in the book that may indeed be incorrect, and
which I don't endorse (such as the "essential fatty acid" claim, which
one finds in just about every book on nutrition, despite it being
refuted directly in 1948). They can't be so stupid as to think that
any book about nutrition will be perfect in every way, yet the hope
that they can cast doubt - the last hope of the desperate shill, I
suppose.

It is the "cost of doing business" here. But a few months ago I
started my own web site and newsgroup, which contains my essays and
also message boards. I can delete any personal attacks, obscentities,
absurd remarks, etc. My site is meant to focus on the scientific
evidence, methodology, and interpretation.

It is at: http://groups.msn.com/TheScientificDebateForum-

Mr-Natural-Health · medicine forum Guru Joined: 01 May 2005 Posts: 1807

Phil Scott wrote:

monty1945@lycos.com · medicine forum addict Joined: 02 Apr 2006 Posts: 93

Well, Phil, it looks like the shills got to work quickly, giving you
one star for pointing out something that all readers of this newsgroup
should know. I guess you should wear that one star as a sort of "badge
of honor" in this context.

Mr-Natural-Health · medicine forum Guru Joined: 01 May 2005 Posts: 1807

monty1945@lycos.com wrote:

TC · medicine forum Guru Joined: 02 May 2005 Posts: 1814

monty1945@lycos.com wrote:

Mr-Natural-Health · medicine forum Guru Joined: 01 May 2005 Posts: 1807

TC wrote:

Phil Scott · medicine forum Guru Wannabe Joined: 23 Apr 2005 Posts: 103

"Mr. Natural-Health" <johngohde@naturalhealthperspective.com>
wrote in message
news:1153142878.633521.303430@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...

Mr-Natural-Health · medicine forum Guru Joined: 01 May 2005 Posts: 1807

Phil Scott wrote:

monty1945@lycos.com · medicine forum addict Joined: 02 Apr 2006 Posts: 93

Please all, do not feed the nature boy troll - he is the worst example
of it that I have ever encountered, but he is actually rather funny.
Laugh at him, if you wish, but try not to encourage him.

TC · medicine forum Guru Joined: 02 May 2005 Posts: 1814

monty1...@lycos.com wrote:

Mr-Natural-Health · medicine forum Guru Joined: 01 May 2005 Posts: 1807

Mr. Natural-Health wrote:

Answer the question.

Did you apply for the job? How much do they pay? Is it piece rate
work? Does it pay the rent?

You are full of crap. That is what I think.

Just thought that you might want to know that I am laughing at anybody
who honest to God thinks that their postings on these idiot ngs are so
valuable that lobbyists are actually paying people money to post here.

What a load of crap. And, I do NOT mind saying so. :)

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