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Joel M. Eichen
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 12:07 pm    Post subject: Cosmetic Case Reply with quote

Complications following cosmetic procedures

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Started by D | Post by S
I had 6 veneers put on last April...I was in severe pain for almost 2
months and had to live on advil and pain medicine to sleep at night,
this was awful too...I just found out yesterday that 5 will need root
canals. They have never been comfortable. They look great, but will
they ever feel normal? Now I'm afraid they won't last. And naturally
there is more cost to me. I had no idea there were any risks at all.
These 6 front lower teeth have never bothered me. My dentist
recommended them to match an upper bridge he was installing. I'm sick
with the news.
Author Topic: Porcelain veneers (Read 305 times)D
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Porcelain veneers
« Thread started on: Nov 27th, 2004, 06:23am »
Hi:
Almost 3 months ago I allowed myself to get veneers & 3/4 porcelain
crowns for cosmetic reasons only.
I wasn't told up front about the horrible reduction of my teeth (14 on
top). I stupidly assumed that a little preparation would be done and I
would be fitted with a veneer the size of a contact lens on the front
of my teeth. Because my dentist was trained at LVI, he used the
wraparound veneers. Luckily, he did a nice job, but my teeth really
look fake. Nice, but fake. Also, some sensivity on one back molar, and
a little problem with a premolar. I think both might now need a root
canal in the future, but I'm not ready to go back there yet.
Aside from the pain (I lived on Advil - 2 every 6 hours for a month)
the biggest problem was my speech. I was totally unprepared and
horrified to realize, that the dentist couldn't help me. He assured me
for 2 weeks while I was in the temporaries that the permanents would be
much thinner and my speech problem would be resolved, but it wasn't. I
now am self conscious; with my natural teeth I was confident and full
of life. I'm not so much now. I'm very guarded and quieter. I practice
certain sounds and am hopeful that my speech will improve. I must say
it has, but it's been very difficult. Saying "255 South State Street"
is hard, as is "55" "Griffiths" and like sounds.
Fluency and spontaneity in conversation, which I used to take for
granted, is now something I would like to have back desperatley, but I
know removing the veneers and redoing them might be impossible.
I think these dentists, trained to ACHIEVE EXTREME SUCCESS at LVI do so
by compromising their ethics for the almighty $ and should be regulated
more closely.
Thank you

bt4grace
Guest
Re: Porcelain veneers
« Reply #2 on: Nov 29th, 2004, 05:33am »
I too have had 9 uppers done by a highly trained LVI CD. I was NOT told
about the severe reduction of my teeth and after I paid I feel like I
was treated badly. I feel like it was a wham, bam, thank you mam job
and when I started having a lot of problems, I was told a bunch of
malarky and he tried to "patch" things up here and there instead of
actually fixing them. I have lost trust in him and am seeing another
dentist. I had one crown just fall off!!!! When I called him about this
and requested my money back, he told me it was due to my bite being off!
After the veneer job all he wanted was another 4500.00 to fix my bite
problem which I didn't have to start with. To make a long story short,
I have had one root canal already and am facing another one or two
immediately. Two crowns are shot and my supposedly unstainable
porcelain teeth are yellow and gray. He says he will refund my money
but to my new dentist!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I told him I didn't pay my new
dentist, I paid HIM and I want my money back. Now due to all the pain
and suffering, I am thinking on a malpractice suit. Any suggestions?



By letsconnect:

Re: Porcelain veneers
« Reply #3 on: Nov 29th, 2004, 10:27am »
Hi there - I don't know enough about the US legal system to give any
advice, but there was a long thread on usenet (sci.med.dentistry)
recently entitled: Dental malpractice (UK) - Some questions - mostly
legal
As far as I can remember, the resulting discussion (mostly by US
dentists) would be quite informative if you're considering taking legal
action, also in a US context. How to find this thread: go to
http://groups.google.com/ > type in "dental malpractice UK some
questions" > the first result is the thread I'm referring to. Click on
"View Thread (93 articles)" rather than the heading. From memory, it
makes for interesting reading.

Has anyone actually come across a cosmetic dentistry site which lists
potential drawbacks of certain cosmetic procedures? I don't think I've
come across a single one

The mind boggles . Is this the same for elective plastic surgery
procedures, or is there a requirement to highlight potential risks and
complications? It's not really my scene, so I dunno


Letsconnect writes:


Has anyone actually come across a cosmetic dentistry site which lists
potential drawbacks of certain cosmetic procedures? I don't think I've
come across a single one

REPLY:

Either have I. I don't think that many dentists warn their patients
about these risks.

Dentists...PLEASE chime in!! Thanks,

S.


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Bill
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Joined: 01 Jun 2005
Posts: 346

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 2:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Cosmetic Case Reply with quote

Joel344 wrote:
Quote:
Complications following cosmetic procedures

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This should come as no big surprise to any dentist who has practiced
for more than a decade or two.

Some of the younger dentists may be more susceptible to the enticing
claims of the so-called esthetic "institutes" and privately-funded
training programs. I tend to stick to programs which are operated by
fully accredited universities, or at least by established dental
associations -- with the appropriate grain of salt.

- dentaldoc
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Tony Bad
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Joined: 04 May 2005
Posts: 517

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Cosmetic Case Reply with quote

A sad, but all too common story.

I have been shocked at the fact some of my patients and others I have spoken
to (who were not my patients), who went to check on getting a cosmetic
dental make over come away only with information on how great they can look.
They get a fancy folder with pictures of what their smile "can" look like,
and the costs and payment options for such care, but learn little else. They
know little about the actual procedures, the risks, the drawbacks, the
lifetime commitment to involved dental care, or any of the real or possible
negatives of such care.

I find this to be a disgrace, and agree with the original posters assessment
about many who are trained at the institute du jour. While there are always
exceptions to any rule, I would generally advise people to run from, not to
places that are pushing cosmetic care so heavily and leaning on their
"credentials" issues by some glitzy "institute" to push that type of care.

I am seeing more and more people become dental cripples for the sake of
esthetics.

As Jan would say, sad that!

T


"Joel344" <joeleichen@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:Joel344.2avuq9@dentalcom.net...
Quote:

Complications following cosmetic procedures

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Started by D | Post by S
I had 6 veneers put on last April...I was in severe pain for almost 2
months and had to live on advil and pain medicine to sleep at night,
this was awful too...I just found out yesterday that 5 will need root
canals. They have never been comfortable. They look great, but will
they ever feel normal? Now I'm afraid they won't last. And naturally
there is more cost to me. I had no idea there were any risks at all.
These 6 front lower teeth have never bothered me. My dentist
recommended them to match an upper bridge he was installing. I'm sick
with the news.
Author Topic: Porcelain veneers (Read 305 times)D
Guest

Porcelain veneers
« Thread started on: Nov 27th, 2004, 06:23am »
Hi:
Almost 3 months ago I allowed myself to get veneers & 3/4 porcelain
crowns for cosmetic reasons only.
I wasn't told up front about the horrible reduction of my teeth (14 on
top). I stupidly assumed that a little preparation would be done and I
would be fitted with a veneer the size of a contact lens on the front
of my teeth. Because my dentist was trained at LVI, he used the
wraparound veneers. Luckily, he did a nice job, but my teeth really
look fake. Nice, but fake. Also, some sensivity on one back molar, and
a little problem with a premolar. I think both might now need a root
canal in the future, but I'm not ready to go back there yet.
Aside from the pain (I lived on Advil - 2 every 6 hours for a month)
the biggest problem was my speech. I was totally unprepared and
horrified to realize, that the dentist couldn't help me. He assured me
for 2 weeks while I was in the temporaries that the permanents would be
much thinner and my speech problem would be resolved, but it wasn't. I
now am self conscious; with my natural teeth I was confident and full
of life. I'm not so much now. I'm very guarded and quieter. I practice
certain sounds and am hopeful that my speech will improve. I must say
it has, but it's been very difficult. Saying "255 South State Street"
is hard, as is "55" "Griffiths" and like sounds.
Fluency and spontaneity in conversation, which I used to take for
granted, is now something I would like to have back desperatley, but I
know removing the veneers and redoing them might be impossible.
I think these dentists, trained to ACHIEVE EXTREME SUCCESS at LVI do so
by compromising their ethics for the almighty $ and should be regulated
more closely.
Thank you

bt4grace
Guest
Re: Porcelain veneers
« Reply #2 on: Nov 29th, 2004, 05:33am »
I too have had 9 uppers done by a highly trained LVI CD. I was NOT told
about the severe reduction of my teeth and after I paid I feel like I
was treated badly. I feel like it was a wham, bam, thank you mam job
and when I started having a lot of problems, I was told a bunch of
malarky and he tried to "patch" things up here and there instead of
actually fixing them. I have lost trust in him and am seeing another
dentist. I had one crown just fall off!!!! When I called him about this
and requested my money back, he told me it was due to my bite being off!
After the veneer job all he wanted was another 4500.00 to fix my bite
problem which I didn't have to start with. To make a long story short,
I have had one root canal already and am facing another one or two
immediately. Two crowns are shot and my supposedly unstainable
porcelain teeth are yellow and gray. He says he will refund my money
but to my new dentist!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I told him I didn't pay my new
dentist, I paid HIM and I want my money back. Now due to all the pain
and suffering, I am thinking on a malpractice suit. Any suggestions?



By letsconnect:

Re: Porcelain veneers
« Reply #3 on: Nov 29th, 2004, 10:27am »
Hi there - I don't know enough about the US legal system to give any
advice, but there was a long thread on usenet (sci.med.dentistry)
recently entitled: Dental malpractice (UK) - Some questions - mostly
legal
As far as I can remember, the resulting discussion (mostly by US
dentists) would be quite informative if you're considering taking legal
action, also in a US context. How to find this thread: go to
http://groups.google.com/ > type in "dental malpractice UK some
questions" > the first result is the thread I'm referring to. Click on
"View Thread (93 articles)" rather than the heading. From memory, it
makes for interesting reading.

Has anyone actually come across a cosmetic dentistry site which lists
potential drawbacks of certain cosmetic procedures? I don't think I've
come across a single one

The mind boggles . Is this the same for elective plastic surgery
procedures, or is there a requirement to highlight potential risks and
complications? It's not really my scene, so I dunno


Letsconnect writes:


Has anyone actually come across a cosmetic dentistry site which lists
potential drawbacks of certain cosmetic procedures? I don't think I've
come across a single one

REPLY:

Either have I. I don't think that many dentists warn their patients
about these risks.

Dentists...PLEASE chime in!! Thanks,

S.


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Bill
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Posts: 346

PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Cosmetic Case Reply with quote

Amen. Well said.
- dentaldoc

Tony Bad wrote:
Quote:
A sad, but all too common story.

I have been shocked at the fact some of my patients and others I have spoken
to (who were not my patients), who went to check on getting a cosmetic
dental make over come away only with information on how great they can look.
They get a fancy folder with pictures of what their smile "can" look like,
and the costs and payment options for such care, but learn little else. They
know little about the actual procedures, the risks, the drawbacks, the
lifetime commitment to involved dental care, or any of the real or possible
negatives of such care.

I find this to be a disgrace, and agree with the original posters assessment
about many who are trained at the institute du jour. While there are always
exceptions to any rule, I would generally advise people to run from, not to
places that are pushing cosmetic care so heavily and leaning on their
"credentials" issues by some glitzy "institute" to push that type of care.

I am seeing more and more people become dental cripples for the sake of
esthetics.

As Jan would say, sad that!

T


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