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Michael
medicine forum beginner
Joined: 04 May 2005
Posts: 47
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 Posted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 7:57 am Post subject:
Re: Jesus ate Fish, ... Shouldn't You?
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Mr. Natural-Health wrote:
| Quote: | Michael wrote:
"Mr. Natural-Health" <johngohde@naturalhealthperspective.com> wrote
in message
news:1152063878.209286.295240@j8g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Sylv wrote:
Mr. Natural-Health wrote:
ironjustice@aol.com wrote:
Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
http://jesuswasavegetarian.7h.com
This statement of yours is still nutty. And, is totally without
foundation. What is your problem?
He's just totally crazy, not to mention dumb as a box of rocks.
No use trying to argue with him; reason and logic are out of his
reach.
We now have it in book form. And, ironjustice is NOT only dumb,
but he is WRONG. :)
But with neither reason nor logic to guide him, how would *he* know
that? :-)
Beats me!!! Perhaps, he might walk into a metal post and fall down?
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I doubt he's unfamiliar with the experience.
| Quote: | Maybe, he might eventually get around to reading this thread that he
started? Nah!!!
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He'll come back to swear at it if he comes back at all... but he'll read it.
He's only as known as the responses to his posts indicate, after all.
Avoid tuna, if you'r going to avoid fish at all. I don't, (I have several
kilos of albacore steaks in the freezer) but it's among the most
mercury-and-PCB-laden, top-of-the-foodchain animals on the planet. |
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mattlb@angelfire.com
medicine forum beginner
Joined: 27 Feb 2006
Posts: 36
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Re: Motor Neurone Disease / Omega-3 and -6 fatty acids and vitamin E
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monty1945@lycos.com wrote:
| Quote: | To say this study has numerous limitations
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It says "several" limitations, but when have you ever let a chance to
exaggerate go by?
| Quote: | is actually an
understatement. The actual molecular-level mechanisms are known, and
so this kind of correlations thing can only be misleading. Stress
causes release of the omega 6, AA, and the AA metabolites do the damage
- that is now totally understood, Most Westerners do not have much
omega 3 in them, but there are dangerous metabolites (non-enzymatic
especially)
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What are you referring to? How are they metabolites if enzymes aren't
involved?
| Quote: | of omega 3s. The studies mostly measure the omega 6
metabolites, so omega 3 is said to be healthy.
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What about that ones that specifically measure omega 3 and declare it
healthy?
| Quote: | The old experiments,
which fed animals different diets, such as one high in fish oil, and
then observed the health and longevity of the animals, uniformly
resulted in animals dying young when given high omega 6/3 diets.
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Dying of what?
| Quote: | if you load them up with vitamin E, then yes, there will be a
counteracting effect, but nobody knows if this is a good idea in
humans,
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You mean if the bad effects of PUFA don't happen in the presence of
Vitamin E, your theories are up the spout.
| Quote: | and recent studies sugggest that it is not, due to the
unbalancing of the different molecules classified as "vitamin E."
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So you take a mixed tocopherol supplement. Easy.
| Quote: | your own mice, load one group up with fish oil and/or canola oil, and
load the other group up with fresh coconut oil,
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Let's make the fish and canola oil fresh too, to be fair.
| Quote: | without any extra
vitamin E and you will see what the scientfic reality is.
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The scientific reality is that vitamin E is the predominant lipophilic
antioxidant and to deliberately exclude it from the diet is asking for
trouble.
| Quote: | No need for
these kinds of ludicrious "studies," some of which appear to be
intentionally misleading.
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A bit like your interpretations of studies.
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