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su-texas@webtv.net
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 Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 12:02 am Post subject:
Vitamin C question
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Is there a sublingual form of Vitamin C? Or a Vitamin C patch?
I'm trying to think of ways to get more Vitamin C into the bloodstream.
Susan Wms, Su_Texas my opinions |
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jonlyda@yahoo.com
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| Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 12:31 am Post subject:
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Shoot yourself dumbass.828.699.3093
su-texas@webtv.net wrote:
| Quote: | Is there a sublingual form of Vitamin C? Or a Vitamin C patch?
I'm trying to think of ways to get more Vitamin C into the bloodstream.
Susan Wms, Su_Texas my opinions |
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Ron Peterson
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| Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 1:26 pm Post subject:
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su-texas@webtv.net wrote:
| Quote: | Is there a sublingual form of Vitamin C? Or a Vitamin C patch?
I'm trying to think of ways to get more Vitamin C into the bloodstream.
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Taking vitamin C orally should get you more than your body can possibly
use.
Spread your doses out during the day, because the body excretes the
vitamin quickly.
Use buffered C (calcium ascorbate) to avoid the irritation of high
vitamin C doses.
Why do you want to have high vitamin C dosage? How many grams were you
thinking of taking?
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Ron |
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su-texas@webtv.net
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From: ron@shell.core.com (Ron Peterson)
su-texas@webtv.net wrote:
Is there a sublingual form of Vitamin C? Or a Vitamin C patch? I'm
trying to think of ways to get more Vitamin C into the bloodstream.
Ron wrote:
Taking vitamin C orally should get you more than your body can possibly
use.
Spread your doses out during the day, because the body excretes the
vitamin quickly.
Use buffered C (calcium ascorbate) to avoid the irritation of high
vitamin C doses.
Why do you want to have high vitamin C dosage? How many grams were you
thinking of taking?
--
Ron
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Thank you for responding.
Possible Cancer Treatments: Vitamin C Infusion
quote:
"By giving vitamin C intravenously, doctors can achieve a blood
saturation that is not at all comparable, with that achieved by the oral
route.
The order of magnitude is something like 200%, as opposed to 2%
saturation by the oral route.
This very high concentration of vitamin C is critical in terms of
achieving a chemotherapeutic, cytotoxic - tumour cell destruction -
effect.
If it is feasible to have a Hickman line put in the patient,
extraordinary doses of vitamin C - anything between 50g to 100g,
depending on the malignancy of the cancer."
http://www.alternativehealingtools.com/cancer/vitciv3.htm
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I'm curious. Am reading about possible cancer treatments.
[Have already been through regular chemo (Adriamycin/Cytoxan, Taxol,
Arimidex), & had very bad results with these, including major CHF,
congestive heart failure. The cancer is forming at injury sites, first
in left breast, now in spine (top to bottom) & in ribs on left side.]
I was wondering about ways to get more Vitamin C into the bloodstream,
without having to use an IV drip.
Patches? Sublingual?
Susan Wms, Su_Texas my opinions
PS I'm also curious about Artemisinin as a possible treatment for
cancer.
I thought that those individuals who research nutrition, might have some
insights also, into using these. |
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Ron Peterson
medicine forum Guru Wannabe
Joined: 18 May 2005
Posts: 181
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| Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 4:33 am Post subject:
Re: Vitamin C question
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su-texas@webtv.net wrote:
| Quote: | From: ron@shell.core.com (Ron Peterson)
Why do you want to have high vitamin C dosage? How many grams were you
thinking of taking?
"By giving vitamin C intravenously, doctors can achieve a blood
saturation that is not at all comparable, with that achieved by the oral
route.
The order of magnitude is something like 200%, as opposed to 2%
saturation by the oral route.
This very high concentration of vitamin C is critical in terms of
achieving a chemotherapeutic, cytotoxic - tumour cell destruction -
effect.
I'm curious. Am reading about possible cancer treatments.
[Have already been through regular chemo (Adriamycin/Cytoxan, Taxol,
Arimidex), & had very bad results with these, including major CHF,
congestive heart failure. The cancer is forming at injury sites, first
in left breast, now in spine (top to bottom) & in ribs on left side.]
I was wondering about ways to get more Vitamin C into the bloodstream,
without having to use an IV drip.
Patches? Sublingual?
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I don't think those would be effective.
The lungs are a fast way of getting drugs into the blood stream, but
vitamin C may not be deliverable that way.
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Ron |
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Just Ed
medicine forum Guru Wannabe
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
Posts: 120
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| Posted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 10:02 pm Post subject:
Re: Vitamin C question
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su-texas@webtv.net wrote:
| Quote: | From: ron@shell.core.com (Ron Peterson)
su-texas@webtv.net wrote:
Is there a sublingual form of Vitamin C? Or a Vitamin C patch? I'm
trying to think of ways to get more Vitamin C into the bloodstream.
Ron wrote:
Taking vitamin C orally should get you more than your body can possibly
use.
Spread your doses out during the day, because the body excretes the
vitamin quickly.
Use buffered C (calcium ascorbate) to avoid the irritation of high
vitamin C doses.
Why do you want to have high vitamin C dosage? How many grams were you
thinking of taking?
--
Ron
===============
Thank you for responding.
Possible Cancer Treatments: Vitamin C Infusion
quote:
"By giving vitamin C intravenously, doctors can achieve a blood
saturation that is not at all comparable, with that achieved by the oral
route.
The order of magnitude is something like 200%, as opposed to 2%
saturation by the oral route.
This very high concentration of vitamin C is critical in terms of
achieving a chemotherapeutic, cytotoxic - tumour cell destruction -
effect.
If it is feasible to have a Hickman line put in the patient,
extraordinary doses of vitamin C - anything between 50g to 100g,
depending on the malignancy of the cancer."
http://www.alternativehealingtools.com/cancer/vitciv3.htm
-------------------
I'm curious. Am reading about possible cancer treatments.
[Have already been through regular chemo (Adriamycin/Cytoxan, Taxol,
Arimidex), & had very bad results with these, including major CHF,
congestive heart failure. The cancer is forming at injury sites, first
in left breast, now in spine (top to bottom) & in ribs on left side.]
I was wondering about ways to get more Vitamin C into the bloodstream,
without having to use an IV drip.
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The Ester-C folks have some studies showing modest increases in
C (not enough to compare to IV). Their product is calcium ascorbate
and some reduced forms. They also show some in vitro lymphoma
cell absorption studies which might interest you. They're suggesting
that some of the metabolites which they include in their product
are key in getting the cancer cells to absorb.
Re possible cancer treatments:
You might also look at Inositol/IP6. Shamsuddin at the Univ. of
Maryland Med School was big in the early research which was
promising against a broad array of hormone and non-hormone
dependant cancers. He has a use patent on the equimolar mix,
this is licensed, available on the web and plenty of B&M stores.
Unless there's an update that I haven't seen, his book on it is
pretty dated.
good luck. Ed |
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