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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 3:07 am    Post subject: Jerry E Bouquot and Biological Dentists make the LA Times June 18th Reply with quote

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From the Los Angeles Times; Front Page of Business Section, today
Insurers Denying Claims from Holistic Dentists

Patients, insurers and regulators are attacking a 'holistic' practice
that entails what they say are unnecessary extractions of teeth and
bone.
By Daniel Yi
Times Staff Writer

June 18, 2006

Rebecca Lindsay had a toothache. Dentists told the 36-year-old Irvine
woman that her dental fillings were slowly poisoning her and that she
should attack the problem at the source. Her teeth had to come out.

Over the next three months, the dentists, James Shen and his wife, Rily
Young of Huntington Beach, extracted nine of Lindsay's teeth - and
much of her jaw.

They didn't stop there. They yanked 18 of her mother's teeth after
Lindsay referred her to them. "You just put your trust in doctors,"
said Lindsay, a sales rep for a pharmaceutical company. "I thought, if
I don't do this, I can die."

The treatment left Lindsay so disfigured that a new team of surgeons
has since transplanted bone from her hips to reconstruct her jaw. New
plastic teeth are allowing her to eat normal food. Now, she said, after
years of shame about her appearance, "I am going to have to learn how
to smile again."

Lindsay and her mother, Lyndel McKay, 67, are suing the dentists for
malpractice. They are among a long list of patients who have been
subjected to "holistic" or "biological" dentistry, a controversial
practice that urges wholesale extractions of teeth and surgery to
remove "decaying jawbone."

Shen and Young have denied the allegations. They are fighting the suits
by Lindsay and her mother.

Many in the dental establishment consider holistic dentistry a fraud.
They say there is no reason to pull people's teeth to stop common
ailments and that many holistic dentists do so solely to pump up their
bills.

"It is hocus-pocus," said Robert S. Baratz, a Boston physician and
dentist, who has appeared as an expert witness in 18 cases against
holistic practitioners before state dental boards. In all the cases, he
said, the dentists either were reprimanded or lost their licenses.

In California, regulators have cracked down on some holistic
practitioners, suspending their licenses and fining them. They say the
practice has quietly existed for decades and acknowledge that there is
little their overburdened departments can do. Patients often are
willing participants in the treatment, and those who feel duped are
embarrassed to come forward.

Two of the nation's largest insurers recently targeted holistic dental
treatments, declaring that they would not pay claims to dentists who
scoop out chunks of patients' jawbones. A few months ago, Blue Cross
Blue Shield of Illinois stated that the procedure was not a recognized
treatment and thus not covered.

Insurer Aetna Inc. came across similar claims a few years earlier and
no longer honors them. "Unproven concepts should not be the basis for
invasive dental surgical procedures," the insurer stated in a warning
to members, providers and claim handlers.

Lindsay said she did not know what was going on until it was too late.
The Mississippi native moved to Irvine eight years ago with her
husband, Al, so that he could attend Whittier Law School in Costa Mesa.
In 2000, a tooth that had been treated with a root canal years before
began bothering her, she said.

Lindsay went to see Shen and Young, who were recommended by her
chiropractor. The couple, who practiced from a nondescript strip mall
office, were licensed dentists with three decades of experience between
them. Lindsay said the two asked her about her health history.

Lindsay said she told them she had battled aches and pains most of her
life, including in her jaws and neck. Her father had passed away from
cancer, and her mother had recently had a mastectomy because of breast
cancer.

"I just thought they were being thorough," Lindsay said during a recent
interview at her attorney's office in Century City. She has since moved
to Colorado Springs, Colo.

Lindsay said Shen and Young told her that her silver fillings and root
canal-treated teeth should come out. They showed her X-rays of her
mouth with dark spots, which they described as infections. They also
sent her home with booklets with titles such as "Root Canal Cover Up"
and "Cancer: A Second Opinion," which purported to make a connection
between deadly illnesses and silver fillings and root canals.

Lindsay said the accounts in the booklets scared her. "I was very
afraid of cancer," she said. "I thought they could save me from
cancer."

She was so convinced that she got her husband to replace his silver
fillings. Lindsay also flew her mother from Hattiesburg, Miss., to
undergo treatment with Shen and Young.

But the treatments left Lindsay and her mother in pain and unable to
eat, the women allege in their lawsuits.

Lindsay said dentures recommended by Shen and Young cut into her gums
and made them bleed. She wanted implants, but the dentists would not
discuss the treatment.

Finally, Lindsay sought another specialist. That's when she learned the
extent of what Shen and Young had done and that she would need a bone
transplant. She decided to sue.

"I'm still in shock," Lindsay said. "What was I thinking?"

Holistic dentists hew to a belief that much of life's maladies begin
with ailments in the mouth. They contend that common silver fillings
are toxic because they contain mercury.

Federal regulators and the American Dental Assn., a professional
organization that sets standards but has no enforcement power, say
there is no evidence that silver, or amalgam, fillings cause illnesses.
The fillings are still widely used across the globe.

It is difficult to say how many American dentists practice holistic
techniques. An Internet search yielded dozens of dentists across the
country who call themselves holistic or biological practitioners. One
group called the Holistic Dental Assn., which advertises online and has
a San Diego post office box, lists 17 members in California.

Most practitioners avoid scrutiny by state dental boards because
patients seldom complain, experts and state officials say.

"We can't go on fishing expeditions," said Theresa Lane, a supervising
investigator with the Dental Board of California.

The board's nine investigators oversee more than 34,000 licensed
dentists and investigate about 3,000 complaints a year, including
allegations of negligence.

"We know they are out there and that they practice differently," Lane
said of holistic dentists. But she added, "We don't get enough
complaints, and until we get a complaint from the consumer, we don't
know what is going on."

The state agency is seeking to revoke Shen's and Young's licenses,
accusing them of gross negligence and practicing outside the scope of
their dental license. The case followed a complaint by Mirjana Lukic, a
53-year-old homemaker from Escondido, who had 13 teeth extracted by the
Huntington Beach dentists.

Lindsay's case is among half a dozen malpractice suits filed against
Shen and Young by attorney David Wilzig. Shen and Young have paid a
confidential sum to settle Lukic's suit.

In a telephone interview, Shen, who described himself as a holistic
dentist, acknowledged that he and his wife treated Lindsay and her
family, and extracted their teeth and parts of their jawbones.

"She had fabulous results and then she got hold of a greedy lawyer,"
Shen said.

"I don't care what science says," he said about criticism of holistic
dentistry. "My patients leave here feeling better. That's their
reality. You can't deny that."

The theory that the mouth is the source of many ailments has been
around since the early 1900s, said Leif K. Bakland, a board member of
the American Assn. of Endodontists and a professor of endodontics at
Loma Linda University.

"When doctors couldn't figure out what was wrong, they routinely
extracted teeth," he said.

In Lindsay's case, Shen sent bones from her jaw to Jerry Bouquot, a
professor at the University of Texas' dental school in Houston. Bouquot
diagnosed the tissue samples as having neuralgia inducing cavitational
osteonecrosis, or pain caused by holes in the jaw.

Bouquot coined the term NICO and is the self-proclaimed national expert
on it. The diagnosis is now popular among holistic dentists, but many
mainstream scientists doubt that NICO exists.

Bouquot declined to be interviewed but released a statement through a
university spokesman saying that he performs biopsies for anyone and
that he does not consider whether they're holistic dentists. Bouquot
declined to detail the scientific evidence behind NICO.

Aetna and Blue Cross Blue Shield of Illinois said some patients began
filing NICO claims in recent years.

Their investigations showed that the diagnosis had little support in
science. NICO joined other ailments treated by holistic dentists not
covered by dental plans, including the replacement of functional silver
fillings with other materials.

Resin-based fillings, which are commonly used to replace amalgam, cost
about $200 each. Many patients fork over their own money for the
treatments. Lindsay and her mother spent close to $30,000, their
attorney said.

Bakland, the Loma Linda professor, said many patients are so desperate
that they will listen to anything.

In one such case, the Colorado board of dentistry revoked the license
of a so-called alternative treatment clinic headed by Hal Huggins, one
of the most prominent holistic dentists in the country, although he
prefers the term "nontoxic dentistry." He denied the accusations.

The board revoked Huggins' license in 1996 for, among other things,
practicing medicine - not dentistry - without a license and
administering unnecessary treatments.

Two of Huggins' patients were a 71-year-old man suffering from Lou
Gehrig's disease and his 67-year-old wife, who had liver cancer.

According to the board, Huggins prescribed a battery of tests and
unconventional treatments, including acupressure, sauna and intravenous
vitamin C, for the couple in 1992.

The couple's amalgam fillings, crowns and root canal teeth were
removed. They died from their illnesses within a year of visiting
Huggins' clinic.

The board found that none of the treatments were necessary and in the
case of the woman "the treatment essentially rendered her a dental
cripple."

The treatment also did little to stem the couple's incurable diseases.
Huggins charged the couple $21,000 for the treatments, according to the
board.

Huggins has denied the allegations against him and maintains he was the
victim of a vast conspiracy by the American Dental Assn. to silence him
because he challenged their conventional methods.

Despite losing his license, Huggins, 69, has built an apparently
thriving consulting practice, coaching others to follow his methods,
which include the proper extraction of silver fillings. Among his
students: Shen.

Shen said he applied much of what Huggins taught him on Lindsay.

Lindsay's suit against Shen is waiting for a court date.

For nearly five years, Lindsay couldn't bear to look in her mouth and
avoided smiling because of the gaping holes in her teeth, she said. She
rarely ate solid food because she could chew only with her front teeth.

"I ate a lot of mashed potatoes," she said, "and Jamba Juice."
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 9:05 am    Post subject: Re: Jerry E Bouquot and Biological Dentists make the LA Times June 18th Reply with quote

I have no idea what is going on in reality, however I can't say I am
particularly enthusiastic about a statement like this:

Federal regulators and the American Dental Assn., a professional
organization that sets standards but has no enforcement power, say
there is no evidence that silver, or amalgam, fillings cause illnesses.
The fillings are still widely used across the globe.

Well do a Google..

So if there is a group of dentists who don't ahere to rigidity like
this that would be nice.

Then the article goes on talking about normal dentists:

The board's nine investigators oversee more than 34,000 licensed
dentists and investigate about 3,000 complaints a year, including
allegations of negligence.

Talking about biological dentists:

"We know they are out there and that they practice differently," Lane
said of holistic dentists. But she added, "We don't get enough
complaints, and until we get a complaint from the consumer, we don't
know what is going on."

The article contains a welcome warning, just don't take it out of
proportion.

Erik
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