And, it says, they "agree to refrain from any future internet postings regarding Paxil discontinuation or withdrawal."

kathleen · medicine forum Guru Joined: 24 Mar 2005 Posts: 2619

These drug companies DO WATCH THE INTERNET.

http://actionlyme.org/PAXIL_BAD_BAD_SMITHKLINE.htm

Rick Morris · medicine forum addict Joined: 11 May 2005 Posts: 91

More actionlyme.org propaganda

On 5/1/06 7:29 PM, in article
1146529754.473016.174560@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com, "Kathleen"
<kathleen.dickson@snet.net> wrote:

Newsgroup Leader Katheen · medicine forum Guru Joined: 20 Jan 2006 Posts: 654

Oh? What am I selling?

Facts maybe? Is that why on Video One I demonstrate
how everyone can do this research for themselves?

Another moron with an opinion.
Another DO NOTHING no-dick "man" tries to "talk."

ROTFL.

Kathleen
http://actionlyme.org

Rick Morris wrote:

Rick Morris · medicine forum addict Joined: 11 May 2005 Posts: 91

I guess you are selling your views if you are in charge of the website. It
is very one-sided and does not have a lot of credibility as it does not even
suggest that there might be valid opposing views, which, of course, there
are.

Interesting how easily you slide into your name-calling, sexist remarks. A
hallmark of a good group leader would be confidence. Those with REAL
confidence rarely degrade themselves by using junior high name calling
tactics, ala Beavis and Butthead.

You nay want to reconsider those tactics.

Rick

--
To forget one's purpose is the commonest form of stupidity.

Friedrich Nietzsche

On 5/2/06 5:19 AM, in article
1146565150.367252.305600@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com, "Newsgroup Leader
Kathleen ActionLyme" <lymecrimebuster@yahoo.com> wrote:

Fuck Google · medicine forum addict Joined: 01 May 2006 Posts: 94

Kathleen <kathleen.dickson@snet.net> wrote in message
news:1146529754.473016.174560@y43g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...

Fuck Google · medicine forum addict Joined: 01 May 2006 Posts: 94

From Stuart Hyderman who also claims to be a chiropractor wrote in message:
Rick Morris <wmorris@neb.rr.com> wrote in message
news:C07C1B12.E456%wmorris@neb.rr.com...

Fuck Google · medicine forum addict Joined: 01 May 2006 Posts: 94

From Stuart Hyderman who also claims to be a chiropractor wrote in message:
Newsgroup Leader Kathleen ActionLyme <lymecrimebuster@yahoo.com> wrote in
message news:1146565150.367252.305600@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...

Fuck Google · medicine forum addict Joined: 01 May 2006 Posts: 94

From Stuart Hyderman who also claims to be a chiropractor wrote in message:
Rick Morris <wmorris@neb.rr.com> wrote in message
news:C07CABC4.E4B2%wmorris@neb.rr.com...

Newsgroup Leader Katheen · medicine forum Guru Joined: 20 Jan 2006 Posts: 654

Hey a*****le.
The whole point of the videos is to let everyone verify independently.

Do your own research.

That was the whole point, but then, you're a man, so.

What do we expect.

Have Penis? Will criticize others but do no work
themselves, on behalf of others.

Thanks for again proving my point.

Kathleen

Rick Morris wrote:

Greegor · medicine forum Guru Wannabe Joined: 24 Mar 2005 Posts: 113

"The drug companies," says Dr Breggin, "settle almost all legal cases
brought against them in order to seal incriminating scientific data."

Drip Drip Drip - Paxil Info Leaks Out
by Evelyn Pringle (Wednesday April 26 2006)

"At Glaxo's insistence, the report remained sealed. However, in the
more recent case of Moffett v Glaxo, in the US District Court for the
South District of Mississippi, the report was filed in the public
record."

Secrecy agreements in litigation hide information about defective
products or a company's negligence, and sometimes go so far as to
prohibit the parties from discussing that there ever was a lawsuit.
Such is the case with Paxil and as a result, unwitting patients
continued to take the drug long after its dangers were known to
GlaxoSmithKline.
Many lawsuits filed against Glaxo have been settled out of court, with
confidential agreements that prevent the public from knowing about the
harmful effects of the Paxil.

Previously sealed documents and internal company memos suppressed with
protective orders, prove that Glaxo knew about the problems with Paxil
before it received FDA approval, but continued to sell the drug for
over a decade without warning consumers.

Long overdue legislation is currently pending in both the US House of
Representatives and the Senate known as Sunshine in Litigation Act of
2005, which basically says that a court shall not enter an order
restricting the disclosure of information obtained through discovery,
an order approving a settlement agreement that would restrict the
disclosure of such information, or an order restricting access to court
records in a civil case

Glaxo currently faces thousands of lawsuits over Paxil side effects
related to addiction, dependence, and a severe withdrawal syndrome.

SSRIs (selective serotonin reuptake inhibitors) like Paxil, are not
addictive in the sense that "an individual would mortgage their
livelihoods and all they hold dear for further supplies of the drug,"
according to Dr David Healy MD, FRCPsych, North Wales Department of
Psychological Medicine

SSRIs can hook patients in the sense of making you "physically
dependent," he explains.

Dr Healy, is considered an expert on Paxil and has had access to
confidential studies from the Glaxo archives. The common symptoms of
withdrawal, he says, break down into two groups. The first group may be
unlike anything you have had before, he warns, to include:

Dizziness
- Headache
- Muscle Spasms
- Tremor
- Electric Shock-like Sensations
Other Strange Tingling or Painful Sensations
Nausea, Diarrhoea, Flatulence
- Dreams, including Vivid Dreams
- Agitation

The second group overlaps with general nervousness, Dr Healy says, and
may lead to you or your physician to think that all you have are
features of your original problem. These symptoms include:

- Depression
- Lability of Mood
- Irritability
- Agitation
- Confusion
- Fatigue/Malaise
- Flu-like Feelings
- Insomnia or Drowsiness
- Mood Swings
- Sweating
- Feelings of Unreality
- Feelings of being Hot or Cold

These symptoms appear in anywhere between 20% to 50% of patients taking
SSRIs, Dr Healy says, sometimes within hours of the last dose.

In the class action case against Glaxo settled in 2005, In re: Paxil
Products Liability Litigation, MDL No 1574, CD Calif, the plaintiffs
were forever silenced by a strict confidentiality clause incorporated
into the settlement agreement.

This author obtained a copy of the lawsuit's complaint, dated August
23, 2001, as well as a copy of the settlement agreement with a secrecy
clause that states in relevant part:

Plaintiffs and their attorneys, "will not make any statements, either
directly or indirectly, by implication or innuendo, to anyone,
including but not limited to consultants, experts, the press or media,
concerning the amount or other terms of such settlement or settlements,
or the nature and substance of settlement negotiations, or describing
or characterizing the settlement in any way."

Plaintiffs and their attorneys "will not, either directly or
indirectly, publicize the fact of the settlement and that any inquiry
into the settlement, its amount, meaning, interpretation or comparative
value, or the negotiations leading to the settlement by anyone,
including but not limited to the press or media, will be met only by a
statement that the case has been resolved, and will decline any
requests for interviews by the press or media regarding the settlement,
its history or its terms."

The clause even extends the internet specifically in that plaintiffs
and attorneys "will not maintain and instead will discontinue any
website references to Paxil discontinuation or withdrawal."

And, it says, they "agree to refrain from any future internet postings
regarding Paxil discontinuation or withdrawal."

Paragraph 5 of the lawsuit's complaint says that over a 2 years period,
"plaintiffs' attorneys have been individually contacted by
approximately 500 Paxil withdrawal victims."

And, the pain and suffering experienced by each individual is the
direct result of Glaxo's "failure to warn users of Paxil's addictive
nature, the drug's inducement of physical or psychologic dependency,
and its infliction of dependency/withdrawal syndrome when the patient's
Paxil dosage is reduced or terminated," the complaint states.

Paragraph 16, lists withdrawal reactions that "can summed up as one or
more of the following complaints: jolting electric "zaps," dizziness,
light headedness, vertigo, incoordination, gait disturbances, sweating,
extreme nausea, vomiting, high fever, abdominal discomfort, flu
symptoms, anorexia, diarrhea, agitation, tremulousness, irritability,
aggression, sleep disturbance, nightmares, tremor, confusion, memory
and concentration difficulties, lethargy, malaise, weakness, fatigue,
paraesthesias, ataxia, and/or myalgia."

Paragraph 7, says: "These reactions are "unexpected" to the victims and
even their physicians because the manufacturer has deliberately failed
to properly warn of this."

"Both physician and patient unwittingly use Paxil without knowing the
drug's addictive traits," the complaint says.

Paragraph 8, charges that because Glaxo has suppressed the information,
patients and physicians are fooled into thinking that the reactions are
caused by another condition, such as relapse into depression, thus
prompting incorrect and unnecessary medical treatment, including
increased dosages of Paxil.

While researchers have acknowledged the potential for withdrawal
reactions with all SSRIs, Paxil is by far the worst. Citing data from
the World Health Organization, the lawsuit's complaint states: "Paxil
has the highest incidence rate of withdrawal adverse experiences of any
antidepressant drug in the world."

Starting in December 2001, Glaxo finally added a minimizing precaution
to Paxil's label of some possible "discontinuation" side effects
affecting "2 percent or greater" of patients based on studies.

However, documents reveal that Glaxo has always known about the
withdrawal syndrome. For instance, in 1993, in a report that occurred 5
months after Paxil arrived on the market, Stoker and Eric noted Paxil
withdrawal at the American Psychiatric Association's annual meeting in
San Francisco, May 22-27, 1993.

The authors of the study conducted 2 week tapering off periods for 186
patients in 6 to 12 week doubled blinded comparative studies. Low dose
and high dose groups were studied. Paxil's low dose group actually did
worse than the high dose group, suffering 42% withdrawal rate, compared
to 38% in the high dose group. And, both occurred even though the
tapering off regime was initiated during dosage reduction.

The lawsuit's complaint specifically describes close to 10 studies that
reveal a high rate of withdrawal symptoms since Paxil came on the
market that Glaxo was fully aware of.

A fact well-evidenced in internal company documents. A previously
suppressed, May 1, 1997, Glaxo memo to, "Paxil Selling Team," on the
"discontinuation syndrome," defines the withdrawal syndrome as, "a
class effect that can occur when an SSRI is stopped abruptly. Symptoms
may include asthenia, flu-like symptoms, fatigue, dizziness, nausea,
and sleep disturbances (insomnia, vivid dreams or nightmares)."

However, the memo instructs Glaxo sales representatives to avoid using
the term and says: "instead of 'withdrawal syndrome,' which implies
addictive properties, try to refer to this phenomenon as
'discontinuation symptoms.'"

Eight months later, in a December 1, 1997, "Business Plan Guide," sales
representatives were instructed to "minimize concerns surrounding
discontinuation symptoms," and told to explain to doctors that the
"discontinuation incident rate is two in 1,000 patients."

However, according to a 1997 review, one study found that 25% of
patients experienced at least one discontinuation symptoms, verses 5.9%
taking a placebo. In another study of patients with major depression,
42% experienced at least 1 discontinuation symptom.

Another internal memo kept hidden with a protective order, states:
"Discontinuation: why this is an issue," followed by, "'97
Seroxat/Paxil sales to end Sept already exceed $1 Billion".

This particular memo carries a cartoon-like picture of a big black
money-bag.

In Paxil literature, Glaxo flat-out lied to patients and specifically
said that the drug was not addictive. For example, a pamphlet made
available at doctors' offices and disseminated to patients, asked the
question: "Is Paxil addictive?"

The pamphlet then states: "Paxil has been studied both in short-and
long-term use and is not associated with dependence or addiction."

The withdrawal syndrome is real and in fact, it is now known that
infants of women who take SSRIs in the last 3 months of pregnancy, may
experience symptoms of withdrawal, including convulsions, according to
a study published in the February 4, 2005 issue of the journal Lancet.

In addition, experts warn against the use of Paxil and other SSRIs with
children. According to Fred Baughman Jr, MD, an adult and child
neurologist in private practice for 35 years, "most antidepressants
have not proved effective in treating depression in children and some
studies suggest they may cause some children to become acutely
suicidal."

Yet in 2002, Dr Baughman says, "nearly 11 million prescriptions for the
drugs were given to children, 2.7 million of them to children under
12."

A report by an expert witness, previously sealed with a protective
order, reveals how Glaxo concealed and manipulated data concerning
Paxil-induced suicidality and how suicide attempts in studies by
patients on Paxil were underreported and attempts by people taking a
placebo were inflated.

Excerpts from the report were published by psychiatrist, Peter Breggin,
MD, in Ethical Human Psychology and Psychiatry, (Volume 8, Spring 2006,
pp. 77-84). Dr Breggin is a founder of the International Center for the
Study of Psychiatry and Psychology (ICSPP) and the author of the
Antidepressant Fact Book (2001).

His report also documents how Glaxo hid the incidence of akathisia
(agitation with hyperactivity) and stimulation, which he says, are
known risk factors for suicidality and violence.

Dr Breggin's original report was based on a 3-day review of Glaxo's
sealed files, and was written for the California case of Lacuzong v
GSK, and attached to a July 21, 2001, affidavit submitted in a case
filed by the widow of a man who drowned their two children and himself
in a tub after taking Paxil for three days.

At Glaxo's insistence, the report remained sealed. However, in the more
recent case of Moffett v Glaxo, in the US District Court for the South
District of Mississippi, the report was filed in the public record.

"The drug companies," says Dr Breggin, "settle almost all legal cases
brought against them in order to seal incriminating scientific data."

"The publication of a previously sealed medical expert report is a rare
event," he explains, "the first in my experience."

In the book, The Antidepressant Solution, author Dr Joseph Glenmullen,
a clinical instructor in psychiatry at Harvard Medical School,
recommends tapering off antidepressants by following a 5-Step
Antidepressant Tapering Program, to reduce both the incidence and
severity of withdrawal reactions.

"Research has shown that when patients stop antidepressants cold turkey
they can have high rates of withdrawal reactions," Dr Glenmullen
advises, "which vary depending on the particular drug."

"In studies involving hundreds of patients, 66 percent of patients
stopping Paxil," he says, "have withdrawal reactions."

-----------------------------------------------------

For more information for injured parties go to Lawyers and Settlements

http://www.lawyersandsettlements.com/articles/paxil.html

Rick Morris · medicine forum addict Joined: 11 May 2005 Posts: 91

I guess your strongest argument is based on calling me a name and assuming
you can find an answer in my gender.

I never told people not to look at your videos, however, I still see them
for what they are, propaganda.

If you got a problem with that, it's too bad for you because it's not going
away. Deal with it. Your "research" appears flawed and is more opinion than
research.

And if you can't take the heat ......

--
The art of medicine consists in amusing the patient while nature cures
the disease.
-- Voltaire

On 5/2/06 2:37 PM, in article
1146598627.504367.142900@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com, "Newsgroup Leader
Kathleen ActionLyme" <lymecrimebuster@yahoo.com> wrote:

Google