Relationship between low-nutrient-food that is grown on soil in Australia/USA and obesity?

cguttman · medicine forum addict Joined: 28 Nov 2005 Posts: 67

Thanks folks - this was helpful.

So, would anyone say in general that people crave more food, if it has
less vitamins and minerals? For example, does eating oats of brand A
that contains less vitamins then oats of brand B result in eating more
oats of brand A (provided that the vitamin need of ones body is not met
yet).

Chris

TC · medicine forum Guru Joined: 02 May 2005 Posts: 1814

I doubt it. Fresh oats will be chock full of vitamins, but if it sits
for too long or is exposed to too much heat in storage over time, much
of its water soluble vitamins will degrade and disappear, but its
ability to satiate probably will not change. You will not experience
any craving per se.

Should you eat vitamin depleted foods over time though, eventually you
will show signs of vitamin deficiency.

But the general concept of craving missing nutrients is not an area
that I've explored in any depth. Good question though.

TC

cguttman wrote:

cguttman · medicine forum addict Joined: 28 Nov 2005 Posts: 67

cguttman · medicine forum addict Joined: 28 Nov 2005 Posts: 67

Yes, it would be intersting to know if nutrient depleted food would
cause cravings for missing nutrient, and it would explain a few phenomena.

For example, people would feel hungry although they have eaten more
calories than is needed by their body. It would also shed light into the
phenomena that "thinner" people are often not as healthy as "fatter"
people. The reason is that thin and big people might eat the same kinds
of food, but if food has less nutrients than thinner people will likely
to have eaten too little nutrients, which in turn makes them ill.

This also means that there is an advantage to be "fatter" - if indeed
most (cheap and junk) food has less nutrients, than fatter people will
at least have eaten enough nutrients needed by a human body. In
contrast, thin people who eat the same food than "fatter" people, but
eat less of it, will probably become sick. With other words, if one eats
less, one has to be more careful about the diet to ensure the
consumption of all vitamins and minerals. This diet would probably
contain a lot top quality food or homemade food.

Chris

TC wrote:

Enrico C · medicine forum Guru Joined: 18 May 2005 Posts: 558

On 27 Jan 2006 13:28:56 -0800, TC wrote in
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Enrico C · medicine forum Guru Joined: 18 May 2005 Posts: 558

On 27 Jan 2006 13:28:56 -0800, TC wrote in
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Doug Freyburger · medicine forum addict Joined: 30 Apr 2005 Posts: 60

cguttman wrote:

cguttman · medicine forum addict Joined: 28 Nov 2005 Posts: 67

So, I received no definite reply to the questions that have been raised
throughout this discussion.

1) Are there any studies about how soils containing different nutrients
alter the nutrient content of the fruits/vegies/nuts/grains?

2) Are there any studies that investigate if low nutrient food causes
people to overeat, because people crave for food until they have
satisfied their nutritional requirements?

If these issues are indeed underexplored, I wonder if there is someone
out there who is about to do research (maybe a PhD) on this topic. If
so, I am very interested to get into this area of science. Send me an
email if you like to collaborate.

cheers, Chris

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