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Don Kirkman
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Joined: 28 Apr 2005
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 Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 8:52 pm Post subject:
Re: Off Topic as usual devotion to Islam is not linked to terror
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It seems to me I heard somewhere that William Wagner wrote in article
<b2wagner-969921.15382026052005@news.snip.net>:
| Quote: | In article <p34c91lmv9mpg2vgkj18e76dda3i4grt8g@4ax.com>,
Don Kirkman <donkirk@covad.net> wrote:
It seems to me I heard somewhere that William Wagner wrote in article
b2wagner-2DD5E6.11573926052005@news.snip.net>:
In article <Xns96627764A9B9Csome1outthere@38.144.126.79>,
listener <listener@nospam.net> wrote:
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| Quote: | I have to killfile you all over again? (New computer...). Is more poetry
coming, too?
Hey get it right it is not your computer that has your usenet account
it is your provider. Get it right! Your usenet account contains your
usenet preferences. Get it right!
Huh? All my filters, preferences, subscribed newsgroups, and favorite
URLs are on my computer. I wouldn't trust any ISP that wants to know
any of them. Did you mis-type or do *you* really trust *your private
business* to an ISP?
Don Everything you use online goes through your provider. You may not
trust them but they have your magnetic ink. Outside and inside not one
not two.
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I don't set my kill and watch filters, URL preferences, or subscribed
newsgroups through my provider--that's done on my own system and the
provider never has a chance to see it.
Nothing beyond IP, protocol, URL, and account permissions, AFAIK.
| Quote: | All transmissions all sites unless you go way out of your way for
anonymity which costs dollars. I just say to hell with it and pretend
I am wring to my best friend.
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You obviously are unclear about what is set on the client machine and
what on the server(s) or you have a most unusual (and undesirable) ISP;
configuring client preferences is done on the user's system.
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Don Kirkman
medicine forum Guru
Joined: 28 Apr 2005
Posts: 726
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| Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 8:52 pm Post subject:
Re: Off Topic as usual devotion to Islam is not linked to terror
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It seems to me I heard somewhere that William Wagner wrote in article
<b2wagner-4576E6.16041526052005@news.snip.net>:
| Quote: | In article <Xns9662A168E4CABsome1outthere@38.144.126.106>,
listener <listener@nospam.net> wrote:
William Wagner <b2wagner@snip.net> wrote in
news:b2wagner-F55F13.15185226052005@news.snip.net:
In article <p34c91lmv9mpg2vgkj18e76dda3i4grt8g@4ax.com>,
Don Kirkman <donkirk@covad.net> wrote:
It seems to me I heard somewhere that William Wagner wrote in article
b2wagner-2DD5E6.11573926052005@news.snip.net>:
In article <Xns96627764A9B9Csome1outthere@38.144.126.79>,
listener <listener@nospam.net> wrote:
William Wagner <b2wagner@snip.net> wrote in news:b2wagner-
520213.11145026052005@news.snip.net:
Saw our President on TV a few days back where he spoke of our
enemies as different than us in fundamental ways. Since
Islam is taking a pretty bad rap these days I had to post this.
Why? Like you said, it's off topic.
I have to killfile you all over again? (New computer...). Is more
poetry coming, too?
Hey get it right it is not your computer that has your usenet
account it is your provider. Get it right! Your usenet account
contains your usenet preferences. Get it right!
Huh? All my filters, preferences, subscribed newsgroups, and
favorite URLs are on my computer. I wouldn't trust any ISP that
wants to know any of them. Did you mis-type or do *you* really trust
*your private business* to an ISP?
If I have 25 computers assessing my account which uses MT-Watcher
my
reader my preferences are set by me. New computer is just a vehicle
which was set by me. This for MAC folks.
I can tear this computer out and replace it with another and when I
connect to my provider it will ask what sort of reader which has it's
own preferences. Kilefiles etc which I control by LOGIN.
Computer of no matter just account. Perhaps this is why Macs have
less problems with virus stuff. Default on our Macs is shut off till
we users figure out what it all means. Looks like life long learning!
Macs have less virus stuff because they only have 5% market share and
virus writers crave more glory that that.
BTW, having been in the computer industry for many years I understand the
difference between usenet, computers, providers and accounts (and bad
poetry).
Still you can't killfile me which I can do to you in two clicks but
won't just in case you write something of import. Good to know your
enemy especially if there is no progress without contraries. The later
from Billy Blake 1785.
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Hogwash! I can killfile you off MY computer with about three mouse
clicks. Nobody but your ISP can kill you off the Internet, of course.
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Don Kirkman
medicine forum Guru
Joined: 28 Apr 2005
Posts: 726
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| Posted: Thu May 26, 2005 8:52 pm Post subject:
Re: Off Topic as usual devotion to Islam is not linked to terror
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It seems to me I heard somewhere that GaryG wrote in article
<raqle.16129$cP2.3788@fe06.lga>:
| Quote: | "Don Kirkman" <donkirk@covad.net> wrote in message
news:ia4c911lkv8tfijhm01gl3f2mdv2vujhrd@4ax.com...
It seems to me I heard somewhere that GaryG wrote in article
ipmle.11995$eR.8098@fe05.lga>:
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[Re a study on a tendency to accept or condone terrorism among
Palestinian Muslims]
| Quote: | Perhaps the relevant factor is "Palestinian," not "Muslim" or level of
attendance--just as Southern US fundamentalists are different from
traditional New England Unitarians and Congregationalists. Palestinians
would presumably attend mosques where the teachings reflect Palestinian
culture and interpretations of Islam; mosques attended by those of other
ethnic/cultural backgrounds could have very different people attending.
If I read the summary correctly, *personal devotion* is not associated
with acceptance of terrorism while mosque attendance[Palestinian] is. A
similar split between moderates and fundamentalists may well exist among
US Christians.
I suspect you are correct, but I still think the author's focus on the
"personal devotion" results has much more to do with political correctness
than scholarship. If one is measuring "degree of devotion" or "religiosity",
a very good case can be made for including frequency of mosque attendance in
the criteria.
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The history of religious sociology is littered with studies using vague
and inadequately considered concepts like "devotion," "religiosity,"
"belief," and the like. These and others are subjective and not easily
amenable to a tenable definition. Is "belief" the acceptance of
specific doctrines or of practicing things like meditation and prayer or
partaking in a community of like minded people or is it something else
altogether or all of the above?
| Quote: | However, the authors of the study drew the conclusions they wished to draw
by focusing on their narrow definition of "personal devotion"...defined only
as the frequency with which one prays. It looks like they adjusted their
criteria after the fact, to fit the results they wanted.
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From the little bit presented so far in the thread I don't know about
the "after the fact," but I'm sure willing to believe "their narrow
definition." 
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