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Steph, can you talk to me?
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J
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 7:34 am    Post subject: Re: Steph, can you talk to me? Reply with quote

augustwestern wrote:

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"J" <philmath@example.com> wrote in message
stryped@hotmail.com wrote:

My youngest is 4 months old.

Thanks and the eldest is 5?

I cant think of anything spectacular that happened back then other than
right after the first couple of episodes when I noticed I was having
the symptoms of coming in my face red and having a fever of 100 or so
then it would misteriously go away. Afew months after first noticing
that I got the full blown flu for 5 or so days.

I was not looking for "spectacular".
All your face is red? Or parts of it? Is it like a rash? Or raised
redness? Or more like high BP redness?
A flush? A blush? (take a photo)

Either way, I see that someone has suggested Lupus to you.
It is not diagnosed with a scan.
You diary your:
1) signs (visible signs on your body)
2) symptoms (fatigue, gastro, fevers, aches/pains (and where), headaches,
depression),
and what happened the 48 hours before each. (what you ate, what you drank,
how much sleep you got, UV exposure, where you were, what you were doing.

After a few weeks/month, take the diary and photo, see a rheumatologist
and bloodwork is done.
J

Stryped complains of no symptoms of lupus other than the mild fevers. Lupus
in young men is relatively rare and follows a definite set of symptoms and
lab results. You can be sure if he had a C reactive protein test done that
they also did a SED rate and ANA on him at which point his original Dr would
have decided whether or not he needed to see a rheumatologist. A self
referred appt to a rheumatologist at this point in time is another big waste
of money. Ask Steph.

Well, I checked and the SED rate isn't always elevated In Lupus.
Even those whose is elevated don't always seek treatment.
It's the ANA and some of the other bloodwork that rules in or out.
So let's say he does have Lupus, he wouldn't be happy with the solution.
There'd be nothing to treat, just something to live with and monitor; but at
least he would have an answer and stop with the scans.
(someone on another newsgroup is now suggesting an ultrasound)...sheesh..
J
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J
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 7:44 am    Post subject: Re: Steph, can you talk to me? Reply with quote

stryped@hotmail.com wrote:

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I had 3 c reactive proteins. The last one was 4.4 which was normal
.They told me on the phone today that my sed rate was normal. I dont
think I have ever been tested for ana. The did do somehting called an
ace but it is not back yet.

I assure you these are real. Just because I have changed my screen name
in the past does not mean it is not legit.

http://www.questdiagnostics.com/kbase/topic/detail/drug/aa86713/detail.htm
I think you're with Quest.
I read a post on sci.med where someone claimed they're ripoffs (overbill
for tests), but I'm not going looking for it.
You would have to search the archives of sci.med on the word Quest and read
each thread.

Has it occurred to you that your doctors aren't doing a good job of trying
to find possible answers for you?
They just seem to keep sending for requested scans....

How about seeing a dentist about subclinical tooth infection or periodontal
disease ?

It's a process of ruling things out, before a bunch of scans or seeing
specialists.
J
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 9:13 am    Post subject: Re: Steph, can you talk to me? Reply with quote

I dont really have teeth problems.
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 9:14 am    Post subject: Re: Steph, can you talk to me? Reply with quote

Why does everyone get mad? I am just seekign help for the problem I am
haivng.
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Steph
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 1:37 pm    Post subject: Re: Steph, can you talk to me? Reply with quote

<stryped@hotmail.com> wrote in message
news:1116933258.284289.197990@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
Why does everyone get mad? I am just seekign help for the problem I am
haivng.


I think you need a psychiatry newsgroup, not a cancer group
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augustwestern
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 2:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Steph, can you talk to me? Reply with quote

Stryped should ask to be evaluated for Munchausen's syndrome.
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D
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 3:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Steph, can you talk to me? Reply with quote

Friend,listen...YOU DON'T HAVE CANCER.You don't have tumor.You don't
need to search for the answers here.Steph has a point-you are
exaggerating a bit,don't you think?When I was younger,I was febrile for
4 months-and it spontaneously resolved.Now when I have tumor,trust
me...I WOULD LIKE TO HAVE YOUR FEVERS INSTEAD OF IT!!
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D
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 3:43 pm    Post subject: Re: Steph, can you talk to me? Reply with quote

No,J.I think there is a better solution.Whole-body MRI should do,I
think.If someone feels I am ironical,that is just a feeling....
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D
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 4:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Steph, can you talk to me? Reply with quote

If your fevers were due to cancer,you would be dead by now.Cancer tends
to multiply and spread,and you have had these fevers for the last two
years,right?Relax,and go to holiday,as Steph advised.
stryped@hotmail.com wrote:
Quote:
Why does everyone get mad? I am just seekign help for the problem I
am
haivng.
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PostPosted: Tue May 24, 2005 5:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Steph, can you talk to me? Reply with quote

D wrote:

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No,J.I think there is a better solution.Whole-body MRI should do

lol
J
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 7:55 am    Post subject: Re: Steph, can you talk to me? Reply with quote

stryped@hotmail.com wrote:

Quote:
Why does everyone get mad? I am just seekign help for the problem I am
haivng.

Nobody's mad, Don.
My guess is that you are practising avoidance (from unhappiness with
yourself and your life)
You've tried a number of tactics to improve yourself, but that hasn't
changed either the home scene or work scene, or your unhappiness within
yourself.
You may even be wishing that you do have cancer; either in the hope of
getting attention or leaving this world.

You've been posting these for 2 years, on various newsgroups.
As Dr. Phil, would say "How's that been working for you?" Not one bit.
All you've managed to do is get people so tired of hearing it, they no
longer want to reply.

Try something different. Use your free time wisely, leave the computer
alone and get some help for you.
Seek out either a support group or a counsellor, or a psychologist.
Be prepared to go weekly and talk things out honestly with someone that
you can relate to, with whom you can be frank about the issues that are
bothering you. It's the only way. I'm telling you from experience.
It can take a year, 2 years (even more), tries with one or the other type
of support; life's a learning process and along the way, you'll learn
about yourself and about others and I promise you will feel better at the
end of the experience.
You have to wake up reminding yourself of the positives in life; thinking
of how to make a loved ones day better (and expect the same from the
other).
At the end of the road, (if it's marital problems) and she does not
reciprocate, you may decide that you deserve better. Or you both may
decide that you married too young, or that you weren't meant to be (as a
couple).
Be good to yourself, be good to your kids, take care of you, in order to
be a good example and a good father to your children.
Face the/your issues, under expert care or with others who feel the same
way as you.
I hope next time we meet, you'll have thought about this and started the
process of getting help and on your way to a new happier life. One foot in
front of the other, is the only way to get there.

End of rant.

J
(because he's back on another newsgroup asking about Gallium scan)
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D
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PostPosted: Thu May 26, 2005 11:54 am    Post subject: Re: Steph, can you talk to me? Reply with quote

J,

I feel sorry for the poor guy.He is so obsessed with this cancer
thing,he is going to completely destroy himself and the rest of his
family.He just can't relize that he would be dead by now if it was
cancer.I just hope and pray that he quickly abandons this road that
leads straight to hell.
Best wishes,

D

J wrote:
Quote:
stryped@hotmail.com wrote:

Why does everyone get mad? I am just seekign help for the problem I am
haivng.

Nobody's mad, Don.
My guess is that you are practising avoidance (from unhappiness with
yourself and your life)
You've tried a number of tactics to improve yourself, but that hasn't
changed either the home scene or work scene, or your unhappiness within
yourself.
You may even be wishing that you do have cancer; either in the hope of
getting attention or leaving this world.

You've been posting these for 2 years, on various newsgroups.
As Dr. Phil, would say "How's that been working for you?" Not one bit.
All you've managed to do is get people so tired of hearing it, they no
longer want to reply.

Try something different. Use your free time wisely, leave the computer
alone and get some help for you.
Seek out either a support group or a counsellor, or a psychologist.
Be prepared to go weekly and talk things out honestly with someone that
you can relate to, with whom you can be frank about the issues that are
bothering you. It's the only way. I'm telling you from experience.
It can take a year, 2 years (even more), tries with one or the other type
of support; life's a learning process and along the way, you'll learn
about yourself and about others and I promise you will feel better at the
end of the experience.
You have to wake up reminding yourself of the positives in life; thinking
of how to make a loved ones day better (and expect the same from the
other).
At the end of the road, (if it's marital problems) and she does not
reciprocate, you may decide that you deserve better. Or you both may
decide that you married too young, or that you weren't meant to be (as a
couple).
Be good to yourself, be good to your kids, take care of you, in order to
be a good example and a good father to your children.
Face the/your issues, under expert care or with others who feel the same
way as you.
I hope next time we meet, you'll have thought about this and started the
process of getting help and on your way to a new happier life. One foot in
front of the other, is the only way to get there.

End of rant.

J
(because he's back on another newsgroup asking about Gallium scan)
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