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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2005 4:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Aspirin vs. Ibuprofen Reply with quote

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"J. Davidson" <mete245919@cox.net> wrote in message
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The drug Cytotec will protect your stomach when taking NSAIDS.
Do not take if pregnant.
Jackie

Jackie,

How many pregnant people called Pete do you know?

Sorry, but it had to be said.

When you live in the big city anything is possible. Also sometimes one
can
be asking incognito for someone else. And good old petey may johnson, is
female. So there are some who may be close.



Hey wasn't there a girl named Ralph on Green Acres?
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PostPosted: Thu May 12, 2005 2:01 am    Post subject: Re: Aspirin vs. Ibuprofen Reply with quote

Thanks guys and gals, but no one answered my questions about aspirin vs.
ibuprofen. I guess its because my posts are too long - sorry about
that...Pete

"Pete" <petesworkshop@nospam.att.net> wrote in message
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Quote:
Hi everyone,

Please comment on the following.

- Is there any evidence that ibuprofen is less caustic to the stomach
(than aspirin), or are they both about equal. I recognize aspirin thins
the blood more, so inherently is worse if you were already near bleeding.
But aside from that are they both about equal on stomach irritation or is
aspirin worse.

- I also understand that the NSAIDS block prostaglandins as there main
vehicle for pain relief; and the stomach mucosa needs prostaglandins (the
good prostaglandins) to protect its mucosa. How much of the stomach is
damaged by NSAIDS blocking the prostaglandins by getting into the blood
stream versus direct contact with the stomach. And does aspirin damage
the stomach more by direct contact than ibuprofen. I also recognize that
the NSAIDS can get into the blood stream directly through the stomach wall
(unlike most drugs) since they are lipid soluble. Does this imply that
they can block the "good" prostaglandins in the stomach faster, since they
go through the wall and into the blood and come right back out again
(excuse me if I am getting a little too imaginative here).

- Is buffered aspirin less likely to eat your stomach than non buffered
aspirin or ibuprofen. I take it reluctantly, but I really don't think it
matters. It provides a local antacid coating so to speak. Does this
really help or not, and if so why doesn't everyone take bufferin instead
of non buffered aspirin or other NSAIDS.

I went to a urologist today for a second opinion on my prostate surgery,
and he told me he thought that ibuprofen was better than aspirin (for your
stomach), but could not back it up when I diplomatically tried to query
him on it. He mumbled something about that is why they invented it, but I
talked to a pharm D afterward and she said it was more on the line that it
thinned the blood less (not because it was less caustic to the stomach).

Please shed some light on this if you can. I am in severe non stop pain
and discomfort (from a TURP that is not getting better), and I can not
take opiates since they constipate me. Acetaminophen is no good since it
has no anti-inflammatory properties like the NSAIDs do. I take PPIs for
my stomach and GERD so I don't want to take too many NSAIDS. Would I be
better of with the bufferin or the ibuprofen (neither which help my pain -
but I have to take something). I started 50 mg of amitriptyline last
night and it has already constipated me. Oh well. Thanks for your
attention.

Pete
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Dr. Wayne Simon
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PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2005 8:42 pm    Post subject: Re: Aspirin vs. Ibuprofen Reply with quote

"Andy" <andy@not> wrote in message news:R-udnZCtla0eyh_fRVnyrA@pipex.net...
Quote:

"J. Davidson" <mete245919@cox.net> wrote in message
news:qfcge.12353$iU.3617@lakeread05...
The drug Cytotec will protect your stomach when taking NSAIDS.
Do not take if pregnant.
Jackie

Jackie,

How many pregnant people called Pete do you know?

Sorry, but it had to be said.

When you live in the big city anything is possible. Also sometimes one can

be asking incognito for someone else. And good old petey may johnson, is
female. So there are some who may be close.
>
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Andy
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PostPosted: Wed May 11, 2005 5:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Aspirin vs. Ibuprofen Reply with quote

"J. Davidson" <mete245919@cox.net> wrote in message
news:qfcge.12353$iU.3617@lakeread05...
Quote:
The drug Cytotec will protect your stomach when taking NSAIDS.
Do not take if pregnant.
Jackie

Jackie,

How many pregnant people called Pete do you know?

Sorry, but it had to be said.
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J. Davidson
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Joined: 30 Apr 2005
Posts: 63

PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2005 10:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Aspirin vs. Ibuprofen Reply with quote

The drug Cytotec will protect your stomach when taking NSAIDS.
Do not take if pregnant.
Jackie
"Pete" <petesworkshop@nospam.att.net> wrote in message
news:1kbge.737183$w62.556573@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net...
Quote:
Hi everyone,

Please comment on the following.

- Is there any evidence that ibuprofen is less caustic to the stomach
(than
aspirin), or are they both about equal. I recognize aspirin thins the
blood
more, so inherently is worse if you were already near bleeding. But aside
from that are they both about equal on stomach irritation or is aspirin
worse.

- I also understand that the NSAIDS block prostaglandins as there main
vehicle for pain relief; and the stomach mucosa needs prostaglandins (the
good prostaglandins) to protect its mucosa. How much of the stomach is
damaged by NSAIDS blocking the prostaglandins by getting into the blood
stream versus direct contact with the stomach. And does aspirin damage
the
stomach more by direct contact than ibuprofen. I also recognize that the
NSAIDS can get into the blood stream directly through the stomach wall
(unlike most drugs) since they are lipid soluble. Does this imply that
they can block the "good" prostaglandins in the stomach faster, since they
go through the wall and into the blood and come right back out again
(excuse
me if I am getting a little too imaginative here).

- Is buffered aspirin less likely to eat your stomach than non buffered
aspirin or ibuprofen. I take it reluctantly, but I really don't think it
matters. It provides a local antacid coating so to speak. Does this
really
help or not, and if so why doesn't everyone take bufferin instead of non
buffered aspirin or other NSAIDS.

I went to a urologist today for a second opinion on my prostate surgery,
and
he told me he thought that ibuprofen was better than aspirin (for your
stomach), but could not back it up when I diplomatically tried to query
him
on it. He mumbled something about that is why they invented it, but I
talked to a pharm D afterward and she said it was more on the line that it
thinned the blood less (not because it was less caustic to the stomach).

Please shed some light on this if you can. I am in severe non stop pain
and
discomfort (from a TURP that is not getting better), and I can not take
opiates since they constipate me. Acetaminophen is no good since it has
no
anti-inflammatory properties like the NSAIDs do. I take PPIs for my
stomach
and GERD so I don't want to take too many NSAIDS. Would I be better of
with
the bufferin or the ibuprofen (neither which help my pain - but I have to
take something). I started 50 mg of amitriptyline last night and it has
already constipated me. Oh well. Thanks for your attention.

Pete

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Pete
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Joined: 10 May 2005
Posts: 20

PostPosted: Tue May 10, 2005 9:19 pm    Post subject: Aspirin vs. Ibuprofen Reply with quote

Hi everyone,

Please comment on the following.

- Is there any evidence that ibuprofen is less caustic to the stomach (than
aspirin), or are they both about equal. I recognize aspirin thins the blood
more, so inherently is worse if you were already near bleeding. But aside
from that are they both about equal on stomach irritation or is aspirin
worse.

- I also understand that the NSAIDS block prostaglandins as there main
vehicle for pain relief; and the stomach mucosa needs prostaglandins (the
good prostaglandins) to protect its mucosa. How much of the stomach is
damaged by NSAIDS blocking the prostaglandins by getting into the blood
stream versus direct contact with the stomach. And does aspirin damage the
stomach more by direct contact than ibuprofen. I also recognize that the
NSAIDS can get into the blood stream directly through the stomach wall
(unlike most drugs) since they are lipid soluble. Does this imply that
they can block the "good" prostaglandins in the stomach faster, since they
go through the wall and into the blood and come right back out again (excuse
me if I am getting a little too imaginative here).

- Is buffered aspirin less likely to eat your stomach than non buffered
aspirin or ibuprofen. I take it reluctantly, but I really don't think it
matters. It provides a local antacid coating so to speak. Does this really
help or not, and if so why doesn't everyone take bufferin instead of non
buffered aspirin or other NSAIDS.

I went to a urologist today for a second opinion on my prostate surgery, and
he told me he thought that ibuprofen was better than aspirin (for your
stomach), but could not back it up when I diplomatically tried to query him
on it. He mumbled something about that is why they invented it, but I
talked to a pharm D afterward and she said it was more on the line that it
thinned the blood less (not because it was less caustic to the stomach).

Please shed some light on this if you can. I am in severe non stop pain and
discomfort (from a TURP that is not getting better), and I can not take
opiates since they constipate me. Acetaminophen is no good since it has no
anti-inflammatory properties like the NSAIDs do. I take PPIs for my stomach
and GERD so I don't want to take too many NSAIDS. Would I be better of with
the bufferin or the ibuprofen (neither which help my pain - but I have to
take something). I started 50 mg of amitriptyline last night and it has
already constipated me. Oh well. Thanks for your attention.

Pete
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