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Alan
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Joined: 09 Sep 2005
Posts: 1055

PostPosted: Wed Feb 01, 2006 8:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Refusal to live the lie Reply with quote

In article <ryebcu5qu75j$.mevc3fr555wt$.dlg@40tude.net>,
ZXh0ZW5kNy42MkBnbWFpbC5jb20= (Body Snatcher) wrote:

Quote:
(Firebird) showed its ignorance whilst trying to be the daddy

WMD Commission -- Yet Another Intelligence Failure

http://www.empirenotes.org/wmdcommission.html

by Rahul Mahajan

The “Commission on the Intelligence Capabilities of the United States Regarding
Weapons of Mass Destruction” has done reasonably well what it was created to do.
Unfortunately, it was created to provide political cover for the Bush
administration in the middle of a scandal that dwarfs Watergate, Iran-contra,
and even Lewinsky-gate, but that, in contrast to those events, has led to no
in-depth investigation, minimal television coverage, and hardly any calls for
the heads responsible to roll.

Think back to late January 2004 and the preliminary report of the Iraq Survey
Group, which concluded that no weapons of mass destruction had been found in
Iraq. This came on top of what was by then a mounting wave of revelations that
the Bush administration had repeatedly and deliberately deceived the American
public -- and attempted to deceive the world -- about the evidence it claimed to
have regarding Iraq’s WMD.

Post-war, those revelations started with Joseph Wilson’s account that, acting
for the Bush administration, he had debunked the claims that Iraq was buying
uranium from Niger. It included the British government’s apology for its “dodgy
dossier,” in which it plagiarized 12-year-old information from a graduate
student’s paper and passed it off as current intelligence, and the revelation
that Tony Blair’s claim that Iraq could deploy its nonexistent chemical and
biological weapons in 45 minutes was known to be based on a single
uncorroborated statement by an untrustworthy defector. It included a
comprehensive accounting in the Washington Post showing that Iraq was not and
could not have been using its famous aluminum tubes for uranium enrichment. It
also included a comprehensive debunking in the Associated Press of virtually
every element of Colin Powell’s February 5, 2003, presentation to the U.N.
Security Council. It even included a description of the role of Cheney,
Rumsfeld, and their Office of Special Plans in pressuring the CIA, distorting
their conclusions, and even setting them aside in order to create the most
urgent and compelling justification for war.

This wave, and the wave of political discontent with the Bush administration,
crested when David Kay’s report came out. Yet, within days of its issuance, the
administration, with the help of prominent Democrats like Jane Harman on the
House Intelligence Committee, had already spun the issue around from
administration deception to something called “intelligence failures,” shifting
blame from the coterie of top officials who had lied us into a war to the
intelligence agencies had been pressured to come up with those lies. The
creation of this commission was the final step in the process, and helped to
head off any chance of a serious investigation into those lies.

Instead of impeachment proceedings for Bush, we saw a very skillful bureaucratic
maneuver that killed two birds with one stone -- deflection of attention and
also an attack on the CIA, seen as an institutional obstacle to implementation
of the Cheney-Rumsfeld-neoconservative foreign policy agenda. The check provided
by the CIA is a pragmatic, not a moral one, but if heeded might have kept the
administration out of embarrassing adventures like support for the military coup
attempt in Venezuela and perhaps even out of the more than two-year-long
occupation of Iraq.

Although the commission was specifically not tasked with considering the
administration’s use of intelligence, it still went out of its way to opine that
political pressure from the administration played no part in the “intelligence
failures,” because “The analysts who worked Iraqi weapons issues universally
agreed that in no instance did political pressure cause them to skew or alter
any of their analytical judgments.” Of course, not only would such an admission
be tantamount to saying one didn’t do one’s job properly, in the current
political climate intelligence analysts had to know that they would be punished
for any such claim.

Similarly, the commission reserves particularly harsh criticism for the way the
President’s Daily Brief is prepared, characterizing them as “more alarmist and
less nuanced” than longer reports like the famously flawed October 2002 National
Intelligence Estimate (heavily worked over by the Office of Special Plans).
Their “attention-grabbing headlines and drumbeat of repetition” supposedly gave
top officials the impression that dramatic claims were much better sourced and
heavily corroborated than, in fact, they were.

The commission is clearly trying to imply that some sort of scaremongering from
the intelligence community stampeded the administration into war. And yet, there
is no mention of another “attention-grabbing headline” from the August 6, 2001
PDB -- “Bin Laden Determined to Attack in US.” To the uninitiated, this might
well seem alarming, yet it didn’t grab enough attention for Bush to cut short
his vacation at Crawford or to bring back other top officials to Washington DC.
It’s hard to escape the conclusion that the administration got “alarmed” by
claims that supported its pre-existing plans, like the invasion of Iraq, but
couldn’t be bothered by claims that had little to do with an imperial agenda,
but, of course, the commission escapes it with ease.

Much of what the commission concludes about the shortcomings of the intelligence
community is true and recapitulates what thoughtful critics on the inside like
Richard Clarke and Michael Scheuer have been saying. In a sense, it is the fault
not so much of the commission but of the Bush administration that created it as
a diversion and of political figures from across the spectrum who allowed
themselves to be diverted.

The most alarming thing about the report is that the sections on intelligence
regarding Iran and North Korea have been kept classified. The justification
given is that there’s no reason for the U.S. government to tip its hand to the
remaining members of Bush’s “axis of evil.” But, given the administration’s
saber-rattling and consideration of regime change attempts in both countries,
the public’s right to know is a far more compelling consideration. If the
slightest move is made toward any military aggression against Iran (the more
likely scenario of the two), the first thing we should demand is
declassification of those pages.

After that, perhaps we can take up that question of impeachment again.
Rahul Mahajan is publisher of the blog Empire Notes and teaches at New York
University. He has been to Iraq twice and reported from Fallujah while it was
under siege in April. His latest book, “Full Spectrum Dominance: U.S. Power in
Iraq and Beyond,” covers U.S. policy on Iraq, deceptions about weapons of mass
destruction, the plans of the neoconservatives, and the face of the new Bush
imperial policies, as well as continuities between Democratic and Republican
policies on Iraq. He can be reached at rahul@empirenotes.org.

http://www.empirenotes.org/wmdcommission.html

Alan

"Can't you see we're still here,
Can't you see we're still here,
Singing loud; Singing clear,
We shall not go under,
We're still here."

Nemesis Peace Centre

http://www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/protector.html

Abuse of Women and Children

http://theoriginalfirebird.blogspot.com/

Nemesis News

http://lordcerneabbas.blogspot.com/

Absolute Anarchy

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Professeur Von TwoSteps O
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Joined: 28 Apr 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 7:01 am    Post subject: Re: Asshat get your story straight (Was: Re: The Iowa Psychology Licensing Board is NEGLIGENT (then) Reply with quote

From : Body Snatcher <ZXh0ZW5kNy42MkBnbWFpbC5jb20=>
Message-ID : <ibu1tdex2tyf$.tfta0x8xv4nx.dlg@40tude.net>




Quote:
he said


He said, they said, we said, yaknow *stoopido* you sound even too much of
a *stoopido* to be a Canadian



Whatever, one thing is for sure, you've got two holes that point to the ground
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Alan
medicine forum Guru


Joined: 09 Sep 2005
Posts: 1055

PostPosted: Thu Feb 02, 2006 10:15 am    Post subject: Re: Asshat get your story straight (Was: Re: The Iowa Psychology Licensing Boa Reply with quote

In article <19675440.12c5950@news.bumsport.net>, .@. (Professeur Von TwoSteps
OA.) wrote:

Quote:
From : Body Snatcher <ZXh0ZW5kNy42MkBnbWFpbC5jb20=
Message-ID : <ibu1tdex2tyf$.tfta0x8xv4nx.dlg@40tude.net




he said


He said, they said, we said, yaknow *stoopido* you sound even too much of
a *stoopido* to be a Canadian



Whatever, one thing is for sure, you've got two holes that point to the ground

ROFLMAO.

I think somebody should drop-kick his head into touch.

I am beginning to see the problem. 50,000 armed troops pour into New Orleans and
the Yanks are still convinced that they went in to "save lives". People stuck in
a city with no money to go anywhere and yet they think that they should have
"saved themselves by getting out of there." I was looking round this rightard's
web-site and they just haven't got a clue what it is like to have no money at
all, so they are convinced that they were "too lazy to save themselves". Half of
America (The Rightards) is so overly-aggressive and paranoid, and the other half
(The Lefties) is all submissive and does exactly as it is told.

I now know why I upset so many people when I first came to this newsgroup. The
problem with Shunyata applies to the whole damn country, and is infecting NU
Labour voters over here as well. And some of the Cannucks the same.

Rogers and Kali can't even see the problem because they are part of it. I ought
to sit down and write my own psychology book.


Lord Cerne Abbas

We shall go on to the end, we shall defend our World, whatever the cost may be,
we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall
fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall
never surrender, and even if this World, or a large part of it were subjugated
and starving, then we would carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time,
the New World, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue
and the liberation of the old."

To rebel is right, to disobey is a duty, to act is necessary !

http://www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/identity.html

http://www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/mylinks.html

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Alan
medicine forum Guru


Joined: 09 Sep 2005
Posts: 1055

PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 12:14 pm    Post subject: Re: The Voice of the White House January 28, 2006: Reply with quote

In article <2lf5u1lqgcpin812djl2dk15oes28ecpdi@4ax.com>, wwfiv@comcast.net
(Wally Farley) wrote:

Quote:
On Fri, 3 Feb 2006 01:51 +0000 (GMT Standard Time),
alan@veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk (Alan) wrote:

snip

Please take this over to s.m.d.h.p.a, your own little fiefdom
(that's sci.med.diseases.hepatitis.politics.alan).

HAND.

Let me explain to you Dumbo. Under international law, Britain has a duty to
arrest and prosecute alleged war crimes suspects if they arrive on its
territory, even though the alleged offences occurred overseas.

Now the question is; Could You Be a War Criminal?

....individuals have international duties which transcend the
national obligations of obedience imposed by the individual state.
Nuremberg International Military Tribunal (1947)

You may be astonished that anyone would accuse you of being a war criminal. You
probably haven't killed or tortured anyone, yourself. In fact, you may know very
little about whether your government is doing anything like that. Furthermore,
you may not even want to know.

It is the moral responsibility of citizens, however, to inform themselves. Even
if others are too unintelligent, morally deficient or cowardly to admit that
atrocities are occurring around them, it is still your individual responsibility
to stand up against these acts of murder and brutality. So you may be surprised
to learn that you could be put on trial for failing to fight the crimes against
humanity your country is perpetrating. If you fail to speak out against them,
you are most assuredly complicit.

Even lacking in-depth knowledge of your country's actions, how can you condone
unjustified war, torture, rape and the murder of thousands of innocent people?
You must understand that attacking, invading and occupying the country of Iraq ,
no matter how vile its previous government, has absolutely nothing to do with
the attacks on your own country by extremist ideologues -- none of whom came
from Iraq , nor did they receive support from that country!

Law professor Frances Boyle has compiled a list of war crimes committed in Iraq
which is available here.

http://ragemaker.com/stories/2005/resources/laws_of_war.htm

If you lack the resources or ability to determine the facts on your own, ask for
assistance from someone who can help you discover the truth. It's your
responsibility to find out.

Perhaps you take comfort in knowing that throughout history people have made war
on one another. It is part of life; even part of civilized life, you may say.
You may even consider this a minor quirk of history which will pass like a
troublesome storm or merely politics as usual. I assure you this is no more
politics as usual than it was in Germany circa 1938. Are you so insensitive or
lacking the empathy to imagine what it would be like for you, your husbands,
wives or children to be tortured, maimed or slaughtered in your own home?

It shouldn't be necessary to explain that the people of Iraq are human beings
who love and marry and raise children they cherish and expect to be safe in
their homes. Fact is, for years they lived in modern cities similar to your own.
Aside from speaking a different language, it would be difficult to pick them out
of a crowd of your fellow Americans. Even their tightly controlled and highly
policed society differs little from the one the United States is creating by
rolling back our civil liberties. And contrary to the statements of some
American leaders, you could safely go out for coffee in Baghdad before the
American invasion.

Maybe you are among those who find it absurd to attempt to impose rules on
something as barbaric as warfare. But you live in a country that imprisons
people and sanctions their execution in accordance with specific rules and
procedures of its criminal justice system. The American Pledge of Allegiance
even includes the statement: "justice for all." Do you think justice should stop
at your own country's borders?

Former United Nations chief weapons inspector Scott Ritter and others who have
compared American and British leaders to Nazi war criminals have been criticized
for drawing parallels between the behavior of the United States today and that
of Nazi Germany more than half a century ago. Admittedly the comparison may be
incomplete, but it provides an opportunity to examine how international law
deals with those who commit crimes against humanity.

In the fall of 1945, following the end of World War II, the Nuremberg Trial
(also known as the International Military Tribunal) got under way. When the
trial ended, four members of the Nazi leadership were given lengthy prison
sentences, three were sentenced to imprisonment for life and 12 were hanged. In
addition to the obvious Nazi villains such as Hermann Goering, ordinary citizens
who tolerated Nazi tyranny were also tried. And despite their strenuous
defenses, they were also guilty. We are all responsible for being aware of
what's going on in our society; we can't plead ignorance. No one can
legitimately be excused with claims that they were only following orders,
abiding by the law or afraid to challenge the authority of their leaders.
Neither can you be excused for saying you were "supporting the troops" or
acquiescing in your silence.

So if you are sitting by idly as your country tortures and murders innocent
people or you consider those who oppose their slaughter somehow un-American or
psychologically unhealthy, it is time for you to wake up and smell the stench of
death. It’s all around you!

Just because you haven't been caught and hanged doesn't mean you aren’t a war
criminal.

Now, you have openly admitted lurking in
sci.med.diseases.hepatitis.politics.alan as you call it, as in fact, has Rogers,
and Liceman, although I do admt that Kali has been smart enough to start
covering here arse.

Now I just happen to know that Waterspider and Greyhackles are lurking to
shuffle anybody who arrives into their nice "safe" ash-sea. I also happen to
know that lurking, are no fewer than three paralegals, and one *monkey* *boy*
New York lawyer.

Guess what? *When* the War Tribunals start, and they will, I am going to take so
much pleasure in getting my own back on those who cost me internet accounts when
I was ill and on TX.

Get it Monkey Boy? I am going to take the whole lot of you down. Everything is
not only archived in smdh, but on Google, and archived in those medical forums.

HTH


Alan

"Can't you see we're still here,
Can't you see we're still here,
Singing loud; Singing clear,
We shall not go under,
We're still here."

Nemesis Peace Centre

http://www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/protector.html

Abuse of Women and Children

http://theoriginalfirebird.blogspot.com/

Nemesis News

http://lordcerneabbas.blogspot.com/

Absolute Anarchy

http://lordcerneabbastoo.blogspot.com/
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A Legend
medicine forum beginner


Joined: 15 Apr 2005
Posts: 16

PostPosted: Fri Feb 03, 2006 9:12 pm    Post subject: Re: The Voice of the White House January 28, 2006: Reply with quote

Alan wrote:
Quote:
In article <2lf5u1lqgcpin812djl2dk15oes28ecpdi@4ax.com>, wwfiv@comcast.net
(Wally Farley) wrote:

Now the question is; Could You Be a War Criminal?

...individuals have international duties which transcend the
national obligations of obedience imposed by the individual state.
Nuremberg International Military Tribunal (1947)

You may be astonished that anyone would accuse you of being a war criminal. You
probably haven't killed or tortured anyone, yourself. In fact, you may know very
little about whether your government is doing anything like that. Furthermore,
you may not even want to know.

It is the moral responsibility of citizens, however, to inform themselves. Even
if others are too unintelligent, morally deficient or cowardly to admit that
atrocities are occurring around them, it is still your individual responsibility
to stand up against these acts of murder and brutality. So you may be surprised
to learn that you could be put on trial for failing to fight the crimes against
humanity your country is perpetrating. If you fail to speak out against them,
you are most assuredly complicit.

Even lacking in-depth knowledge of your country's actions, how can you condone
unjustified war, torture, rape and the murder of thousands of innocent people?
You must understand that attacking, invading and occupying the country of Iraq ,
no matter how vile its previous government, has absolutely nothing to do with
the attacks on your own country by extremist ideologues -- none of whom came
from Iraq , nor did they receive support from that country!

Law professor Frances Boyle has compiled a list of war crimes committed in Iraq
which is available here.

http://ragemaker.com/stories/2005/resources/laws_of_war.htm

If you lack the resources or ability to determine the facts on your own, ask for
assistance from someone who can help you discover the truth. It's your
responsibility to find out.

Perhaps you take comfort in knowing that throughout history people have made war
on one another. It is part of life; even part of civilized life, you may say.
You may even consider this a minor quirk of history which will pass like a
troublesome storm or merely politics as usual. I assure you this is no more
politics as usual than it was in Germany circa 1938. Are you so insensitive or
lacking the empathy to imagine what it would be like for you, your husbands,
wives or children to be tortured, maimed or slaughtered in your own home?

It shouldn't be necessary to explain that the people of Iraq are human beings
who love and marry and raise children they cherish and expect to be safe in
their homes. Fact is, for years they lived in modern cities similar to your own.
Aside from speaking a different language, it would be difficult to pick them out
of a crowd of your fellow Americans. Even their tightly controlled and highly
policed society differs little from the one the United States is creating by
rolling back our civil liberties. And contrary to the statements of some
American leaders, you could safely go out for coffee in Baghdad before the
American invasion.

Maybe you are among those who find it absurd to attempt to impose rules on
something as barbaric as warfare. But you live in a country that imprisons
people and sanctions their execution in accordance with specific rules and
procedures of its criminal justice system. The American Pledge of Allegiance
even includes the statement: "justice for all." Do you think justice should stop
at your own country's borders?

Former United Nations chief weapons inspector Scott Ritter and others who have
compared American and British leaders to Nazi war criminals have been criticized
for drawing parallels between the behavior of the United States today and that
of Nazi Germany more than half a century ago. Admittedly the comparison may be
incomplete, but it provides an opportunity to examine how international law
deals with those who commit crimes against humanity.

In the fall of 1945, following the end of World War II, the Nuremberg Trial
(also known as the International Military Tribunal) got under way. When the
trial ended, four members of the Nazi leadership were given lengthy prison
sentences, three were sentenced to imprisonment for life and 12 were hanged. In
addition to the obvious Nazi villains such as Hermann Goering, ordinary citizens
who tolerated Nazi tyranny were also tried. And despite their strenuous
defenses, they were also guilty. We are all responsible for being aware of
what's going on in our society; we can't plead ignorance. No one can
legitimately be excused with claims that they were only following orders,
abiding by the law or afraid to challenge the authority of their leaders.
Neither can you be excused for saying you were "supporting the troops" or
acquiescing in your silence.

So if you are sitting by idly as your country tortures and murders innocent
people or you consider those who oppose their slaughter somehow un-American or
psychologically unhealthy, it is time for you to wake up and smell the stench of
death. It's all around you!

Just because you haven't been caught and hanged doesn't mean you aren't a war
criminal.


Amen

{x-posted to alt.impeach.bush}
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Alan
medicine forum Guru


Joined: 09 Sep 2005
Posts: 1055

PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 12:47 am    Post subject: Re: The Voice of the White House January 28, 2006: Reply with quote

In article <1139001166.359443.197800@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com>,
Indomitable2@netzero.com (Gore, L) wrote:

Quote:

Alan wrote:
In article <2lf5u1lqgcpin812djl2dk15oes28ecpdi@4ax.com>, wwfiv@comcast.net
(Wally Farley) wrote:

Now the question is; Could You Be a War Criminal?

...individuals have international duties which transcend the
national obligations of obedience imposed by the individual state.
Nuremberg International Military Tribunal (1947)

You may be astonished that anyone would accuse you of being a war criminal.
You
probably haven't killed or tortured anyone, yourself. In fact, you may know
very
little about whether your government is doing anything like that.
Furthermore,
you may not even want to know.

It is the moral responsibility of citizens, however, to inform themselves.
Even
if others are too unintelligent, morally deficient or cowardly to admit that
atrocities are occurring around them, it is still your individual
responsibility
to stand up against these acts of murder and brutality. So you may be
surprised
to learn that you could be put on trial for failing to fight the crimes
against
humanity your country is perpetrating. If you fail to speak out against
them,
you are most assuredly complicit.

Even lacking in-depth knowledge of your country's actions, how can you
condone
unjustified war, torture, rape and the murder of thousands of innocent
people?
You must understand that attacking, invading and occupying the country of
Iraq ,
no matter how vile its previous government, has absolutely nothing to do
with
the attacks on your own country by extremist ideologues -- none of whom came
from Iraq , nor did they receive support from that country!

Law professor Frances Boyle has compiled a list of war crimes committed in
Iraq
which is available here.

http://ragemaker.com/stories/2005/resources/laws_of_war.htm

If you lack the resources or ability to determine the facts on your own,
ask for
assistance from someone who can help you discover the truth. It's your
responsibility to find out.

Perhaps you take comfort in knowing that throughout history people have
made war
on one another. It is part of life; even part of civilized life, you may
say.
You may even consider this a minor quirk of history which will pass like a
troublesome storm or merely politics as usual. I assure you this is no more
politics as usual than it was in Germany circa 1938. Are you so insensitive
or
lacking the empathy to imagine what it would be like for you, your husbands,
wives or children to be tortured, maimed or slaughtered in your own home?

It shouldn't be necessary to explain that the people of Iraq are human
beings
who love and marry and raise children they cherish and expect to be safe in
their homes. Fact is, for years they lived in modern cities similar to your
own.
Aside from speaking a different language, it would be difficult to pick
them out
of a crowd of your fellow Americans. Even their tightly controlled and
highly
policed society differs little from the one the United States is creating by
rolling back our civil liberties. And contrary to the statements of some
American leaders, you could safely go out for coffee in Baghdad before the
American invasion.

Maybe you are among those who find it absurd to attempt to impose rules on
something as barbaric as warfare. But you live in a country that imprisons
people and sanctions their execution in accordance with specific rules and
procedures of its criminal justice system. The American Pledge of Allegiance
even includes the statement: "justice for all." Do you think justice should
stop
at your own country's borders?

Former United Nations chief weapons inspector Scott Ritter and others who
have
compared American and British leaders to Nazi war criminals have been
criticized
for drawing parallels between the behavior of the United States today and
that
of Nazi Germany more than half a century ago. Admittedly the comparison may
be
incomplete, but it provides an opportunity to examine how international law
deals with those who commit crimes against humanity.

In the fall of 1945, following the end of World War II, the Nuremberg Trial
(also known as the International Military Tribunal) got under way. When the
trial ended, four members of the Nazi leadership were given lengthy prison
sentences, three were sentenced to imprisonment for life and 12 were
hanged. In
addition to the obvious Nazi villains such as Hermann Goering, ordinary
citizens
who tolerated Nazi tyranny were also tried. And despite their strenuous
defenses, they were also guilty. We are all responsible for being aware of
what's going on in our society; we can't plead ignorance. No one can
legitimately be excused with claims that they were only following orders,
abiding by the law or afraid to challenge the authority of their leaders.
Neither can you be excused for saying you were "supporting the troops" or
acquiescing in your silence.

So if you are sitting by idly as your country tortures and murders innocent
people or you consider those who oppose their slaughter somehow un-American
or
psychologically unhealthy, it is time for you to wake up and smell the
stench of
death. It's all around you!

Just because you haven't been caught and hanged doesn't mean you aren't a
war
criminal.


Amen

{x-posted to alt.impeach.bush}

There's an alt.impeach.bush? Is there an alt.impeach.blair? I'll check.



Alan

"Can't you see we're still here,
Can't you see we're still here,
Singing loud; Singing clear,
We shall not go under,
We're still here."

Nemesis Peace Centre

http://www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/protector.html

Abuse of Women and Children

http://theoriginalfirebird.blogspot.com/

Nemesis News

http://lordcerneabbas.blogspot.com/

Absolute Anarchy

http://lordcerneabbastoo.blogspot.com/
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Dr. Wee Hung Lo
medicine forum beginner


Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Posts: 9

PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 5:03 am    Post subject: Re: The Voice of the White House January 28, 2006: Reply with quote

"Gore, L" <Indomitable2@netzero.com> wrote in message
news:1139001166.359443.197800@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
:
: > Just because you haven't been caught and hanged doesn't mean you
aren't a war
: > criminal.
: >
:
: Amen

LOL, Linda Gore of alt.support.tourettes, no one ever stated that you
were of sound mind.

Carry on, oops, I'm sure you will.
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Alan
medicine forum Guru


Joined: 09 Sep 2005
Posts: 1055

PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 10:26 am    Post subject: Re: The Voice of the White House January 28, 2006: Reply with quote

In article <43e435b4_3@x-privat.org>, dr.whl@hocho.org (Dr. Wee Hung Lo) wrote:

Quote:

"Gore, L" <Indomitable2@netzero.com> wrote in message
news:1139001166.359443.197800@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...

http://lordcerneabbastoo.blogspot.com/2006/01/could-you-be-war-criminal.html

Quote:
:
: > Just because you haven't been caught and hanged doesn't mean you
aren't a war
: > criminal.
:
:
: Amen

LOL, Linda Gore of alt.support.tourettes, no one ever stated that you
were of sound mind.

Carry on, oops, I'm sure you will.

http://www.worldtribunal.org/main/?b=1

http://www.bushcommission.org/downloads.htm

http://www.bushcommission.org/Indictments/Gonzales%20cover%20letter.doc

http://www.bushcommission.org/Indictments/War%20indictment.doc

http://www.bushcommission.org/Indictments/War%20indictment.doc

http://www.bushcommission.org/Indictments/Global%20Climate%20indictment.doc

http://www.bushcommission.org/Indictments/Global%20Health%20indictment.doc

http://www.bushcommission.org/Indictments/Katrina%20indictment.doc

http://www.bushcommission.org/Indictments/British%20letter.doc
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PostPosted: Sat Feb 04, 2006 2:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Stalking IS use of internet to cause substantial emotional distress Reply with quote

In article <43e43820$1_3@x-privat.org>, dr.whl@hocho.org (Dr. Wee Hung Lo)
wrote:

Quote:
Polly want a cracker?

http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article343098.ece

Motor City loses its soul

Shame isn't it? America has now even lost its soul.



Alan

"Can't you see we're still here,
Can't you see we're still here,
Singing loud; Singing clear,
We shall not go under,
We're still here."

Nemesis Peace Centre

http://www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/protector.html

Abuse of Women and Children

http://theoriginalfirebird.blogspot.com/

Nemesis News

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Absolute Anarchy

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Dr. Wee Hung Lo
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Posts: 9

PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 4:14 am    Post subject: Re: The Voice of the White House January 28, 2006: Reply with quote

"Alan" <alan@veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk> wrote in message
news:memo.20060204080547.928A@veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk...
: In article <43e435b4_3@x-privat.org>, dr.whl@hocho.org (Dr. Wee Hung
Lo) wrote:
:
: >
: > "Gore, L" <Indomitable2@netzero.com> wrote in message
: > news:1139001166.359443.197800@z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com...
:
:
http://lordcerneabbastoo.blogspot.com/2006/01/could-you-be-war-criminal.html
:
: > :
: > : > Just because you haven't been caught and hanged doesn't mean you
: > aren't a war
: > : > criminal.
: > : >
: > :
: > : Amen
: >
: > LOL, Linda Gore of alt.support.tourettes, no one ever stated that
you
: > were of sound mind.
: >
: > Carry on, oops, I'm sure you will.
:
<snipped Alan's carrying on>

Curious about your reasons for being anti-American I did a little
history walk.

Seems you have AIDS and Hep-C and you wanted to come to the USA. Since
they disallow people in your straits I can only surmize that your
bitterness causes you to post thusly.
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Dr. Wee Hung Lo
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Posts: 9

PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 4:22 am    Post subject: Re: Stalking IS use of internet to cause substantial emotional distress Reply with quote

"Alan" <alan@veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk> wrote in message
news:memo.20060204120721.984N@veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk...
: In article <43e43820$1_3@x-privat.org>, dr.whl@hocho.org (Dr. Wee Hung
Lo)
: wrote:
:
: > Polly want a cracker?
:
: http://news.independent.co.uk/world/americas/article343098.ece
:
: Motor City loses its soul
:
: Shame isn't it? America has now even lost its soul.
:

Not lost, unlike Europe it has been merged with the masses, integrated.

Have another cracker, Polly.
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Posts: 86

PostPosted: Sun Feb 05, 2006 11:56 pm    Post subject: Re: The Voice of the White House January 28, 2006: Reply with quote

From : "Dr. Wee Hung Lo" <dr.whl@hocho.org>
Message-ID : <43e57b8c_1@x-privat.org>





Quote:
Curious about your reasons for being anti-American I did a little
history walk




It's mostly their big mouths and wonky inbred autocratic *stoopidity*
that's on the nose. The .com *stoopids* in auk is your yardstick of proof
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Necco
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Posts: 13

PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 2:35 pm    Post subject: Re: The Voice of the White House January 28, 2006: Reply with quote

"Professeur Von TwoSteps OA." <.@.> wrote in message
news:16105088.f5c6c0@news.bumsport.net...
Quote:
From : "Dr. Wee Hung Lo" <dr.whl@hocho.org
Message-ID : <43e57b8c_1@x-privat.org

Curious about your reasons for being anti-American I did a little
history walk

It's mostly their big mouths and wonky inbred autocratic *stoopidity*
that's on the nose. The .com *stoopids* in auk is your yardstick of proof


Your posts allow me to rest my case. Thanks for proving my point.

HARFUL!

Nomen Necco
Hammer of Thor, May 2005
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Alan
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Posts: 1055

PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 7:09 pm    Post subject: Re: "VENGEANCE IS MINE, SAITH THE LORD" Reply with quote

In article <memo.20060205183842.920z@veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk>,
alan@veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk (Alan) wrote:

Quote:
In article <memo.20060205164913.920q@veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk>,
alan@veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk (Alan) wrote:



http://civillibertarian.blogspot.com/2006/02/vengeance-is-mine-saith-lord.html

I guess this should be the song the song of the day, as it is gonna be that
bad:

http://www.gatorlegs.com/music/SAMLetBluesBegin2.m3u

Or maybe even this one:

http://www.theturtles.com/realmedia/shedrather.html



Lord Cerne Abbas

We shall go on to the end, we shall defend our World, whatever the cost may be,
we shall fight on the beaches, we shall fight on the landing grounds, we shall
fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall fight in the hills; we shall
never surrender, and even if this World, or a large part of it were subjugated
and starving, then we would carry on the struggle, until, in God's good time,
the New World, with all its power and might, steps forth to the rescue
and the liberation of the old."

To rebel is right, to disobey is a duty, to act is necessary !

http://www.veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk/identity.html

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Posts: 1055

PostPosted: Tue Feb 07, 2006 7:09 pm    Post subject: Re: TV's Grandpa Munster dies at 82 Reply with quote

In article <memo.20060205174550.920x@veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk>,
alan@veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk (Alan) wrote:

Quote:
In article <memo.20060205172956.920v@veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk>,
alan@veloceraptor.free-online.co.uk (Alan) wrote:

http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/entertainment/4683026.stm

Actor Al Lewis, best known for his role as Grandpa in 1960s TV comedy The
Munsters, has died at the age of 82.

http://www.munsters.com/grandpa.html


I'm rather shocked to find that Lily Munster was born in 1922.

http://www.munsters.com/yvonne.htm

Ir was that streak of grey hair that really did it for me. <wg

http://www.munsters.com/lily.html

http://www.freehomepages.com/munsters1/



Alan

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