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DLU
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Joined: 27 Jan 2006
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 Posted: Fri Jan 27, 2006 8:30 pm Post subject:
Re: Light cigarettes and health benefits
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Rufus Leaking wrote:
| Quote: | On Wed, 05 Oct 2005 14:48:46 GMT, "kr0" <kentr0ss@yahoo.com> wrote:
It seems that claims that light cigarettes have the benefit of being safer
because of low tar and nicotine is not correct. A National Cancer Institute
study indicates that in most cases light cigarette manufacturers are
misleading comsumers. Apparently, the light cigarettes trick the smoking
test machines into recording artificially low levels. If you go to
https://www.lawyersandsettlements.com/case/light_cigarettes_misleading_safety_benefits
there is more information on this and what can be done about it. There is
also a free case evaluation provided for those who might have been affected
by this. I hope that this may be of some help.
kr0
ANY amount of cigarette smoking is very, very harmful. Smoking light
cigarettes is like shooting yourself in the head with a "light"
bullet.
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The lining of the lungs is on cell thick, these cells are called
alveoli. Cigarette smoke contains particles that are less than 2.5
microns in diameter. These particles lodge in these cells and turn them
to hardened tissue just like your outer skin. Also, diesel exhaust is
composed of such sized particles. 93% of diesel exhaust is carcinogenic.
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* Not Lumber Cartel Unit 75 [TINLC] *
* http://bobcathoh.50megs.com/tinLC/ *
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madiba
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Joined: 05 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 4:57 pm Post subject:
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DLU <david@justthe.net> wrote:
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ANY amount of cigarette smoking is very, very harmful. Smoking light
cigarettes is like shooting yourself in the head with a "light"
bullet.
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True. But some folks are protected gene-wise and never get lung cancer,
although they smoke throughout their lives..
| Quote: | The lining of the lungs is on cell thick, these cells are called
alveoli. Cigarette smoke contains particles that are less than 2.5
microns in diameter. These particles lodge in these cells and turn them
to hardened tissue just like your outer skin. Also, diesel exhaust is
composed of such sized particles. 93% of diesel exhaust is carcinogenic.
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J
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Joined: 29 Apr 2005
Posts: 612
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| Posted: Wed Feb 08, 2006 10:45 am Post subject:
Re: Cancer_fr est une liste de diffusion en Français pour toutes les personnes touchées par le cancer ( x-post)
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J wrote:
| Quote: | Cancer_fr est une liste de diffusion en Français pour toutes les personnes
touchées par le cancer
( malades, familles et professionnels)
Elle est basée sur la convivialité, le soutien mutuel, et l'échange
d'informations pratiques et médicales.
http://fr.groups.yahoo.com/group/cancer-fr/
Pointing French speaking persons to a web based French-speaking cancer
forum.
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J
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Re: adenoid cystic carcinoma
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persspolice@gmail.com wrote:
| Quote: | yes they removed it. My main question is: What is so special about the
lungs and this type of tumor? Does it metastisize faster in the lungs?
How many tumors can she remove from her lungs? She has removed the
tumor a number of times from the lip area, and then she was fine for
years. And we'll be happy even with that kind of situation. I am just
little worried about the lungs. With my limited knowledge, I look at
lungs as a area with good blood supply and oxygen supply. Does this
provide a fertile ground for the tumor to grow? Can this be managed by
removing the tumors one at a time, and allow her to live with cancer,
or is her situation more dangerous?
How can I find out if there is any new advances related to this tumor
or any special Medical Centers that are more experienced with this? I
am told it does not respond to Chemo or radio therapy.
Oh yes I am working with an oncologist. And they do not sound like
this is "end-of-line" but they do sound "alarming". I will certainly
take your advice regarding calling Dental or Medical school. As I am
mainly interested in managing ( not even cure ) of Malignant type of
this tumor, there might be hope out there. I like the Dr.s that are
working with us. But you always tend to have questions which you can
not call evrey minute and ask them. So it helps to gain a better
understanding of our situation. I certainly appreciate your comments.
One interesting thing you mentioned regarding the Chemo therapy of
various cells sparked my attention. I do not know much about Chemo
therapy. Are you saying there is different chemicals for different
types of tumor? Could it be that because one type of cancer is rare, no
one bothered to come up with a chemo therapy agent for it, while the
more popular types have chemo therapy because drug company sees a
market? I recall reading a paper that a physician showed me and it
stated that this tumor does not respond to chemo therapy. This gave me
the impression that Chemotherapy is an standard procedure or compound
that effects cells that grow. Does anyone know why this type of cancer
does not respond to chemo? Afterall it is deviding. Any agent that
inhibits the chromosom replication should stop this also.
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Sean
Why would you go to a dental centre when her cancer's in her lung?
I already answered you on how it is treated, but since you need to hear it
again, I will crosspost to sci.med.diseases.cancer where there are
oncologists who will tell you.
Also repeating my reply (from alt.support.cancer)
"Surgical resection and if that is not possible, radiotherapy
Adenoid cystic carcinoma
http://www.medterms.com/script/main/art.asp?articlekey=30843"
(a web page explaining your mother's type of cancer)
Actually, the web page says "Treatment usually involves surgery to resect
(remove) the tumor. Postoperative radiotherapy may help prevent local
recurrence. Chemotherapy may slow the tumor but no chemotherapy has yet
been found that is effective in destroying it."
So, is lung surgery, for your mother, not possible? If not, why not?
If you're interested in support, post again to alt.support.cancer
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persspolice@gmail.com
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No I am fine. She is scheduled for surgery, and we definately are
going to have it done. Actually I wanted to have her get it done five
minute after I chat with her sergon. The reason for my further query
is to findout if there is anything else that would increase her
chances. I am not looking for a replacement for surgery. |
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Araik Margarian
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Joined: 30 Aug 2005
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| Posted: Tue Feb 21, 2006 6:30 am Post subject:
Re: Post-Treatment notes: MRI. Steph???
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"Araik Margarian" <aramargar1@aol.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Radiology Information System
Run Date 02/09/06
Desc: MRI Nasopharinx W WO Contrast 70453.
IMPRESSION:
Marked Interval decreases in size of both the primary right nasopharyngeal
carcinoma and metastastic nodes of Rouviere and right level II and III
Jugular chain posterior cervical space nodes as detailed above.
fc, 02/06/06
Report
Indication: Nasopharyngeal Carcinoma, s/p radiotherapy.
Technique: MRI nasopharynx, with intravenous contrast. This study was
limited secondary to patient motion and hemoptysis during the scan.
Comparison: MRI nasopharynx dated 11/10/2005.
IV contrast: 12 cc Gadolinium administered without complication.
MRI, Nasopharynx:
Post treatment findings are noted s/p radiotherapy of the right
nasopharyngeal carcinoma.
There has been marked interval reduction in size of the right
nasopharyngeal carcinoma. Heterogeneous signal and enhancement involves
the right foramen lacerum, the external face of the hypoglossal canal, and
that appears to scallop slightly the inferolateral aspect of the right
basiocciput, measures approximately 26AP X 13 TV X 23 SI mm, representing
a marked interval decrease in size compared to measurements made today
from the 11/10/2005 study of 41 AP X 26 TV X 35 SI mm. The lesion abuts
but exerts less mass effect along the distal cervical segment of the right
internal carotid artery. There is no significant compromise in flow within
the right ICA. These measurements reflect interval decrease in size of
both the primary right nasopharingeal carcinoma and the adjacent
metastatic right node of Rouviere.
There has been marked interval decrease in size of metastatic right level
IIA, IIB, and III jugular chain and posterior cervical space adenopathy. A
single treated right level IIB node (image 81, series 4) that lies just
medial to the right sternocleidomastoid muscle and posterior to the
posterior belly of the right digastric muscle has persists, but has
markedly decreased in size since 11/10/2005. No new metastatic appearing
nodes are seen. The left metastatic appearing node of Rouviere has as well
nearly completely resolved.
Moderate right round signal abnormality within the right maxxilary antrum
is redemonstrated consistent with a retention cist, unchanged.
Bilateral moderate likely inflammatory signal abnormality is noted within
the mastoid air cells, slightely increased since the prior study.
Left nasal septal deviation and spur redemonstrated.
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Regards,
Araik Margarian.
http://journals.aol.com/aramargar1/MyAmericanDream/
"Araik Margarian" <aramargar1@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1140502338_767@sp6iad.superfeed.net...
Dear group,
I want to brief my story:
I have Nasopharyngeal Carcinoma. Diagnosing of it took record long time
for
various reasons - From middle of June 2005 to middle of October 2005!
Treatment started on November 28 2005. The last day of radiation therapy
was
February 6, 2006. Overall, I've got 40 RT - 72Gu and 3 round cisplatinum
based chemo - On November 30, January 5 and February 2. I had serious
complications in the mid of my treatment and spent 9 days in the
Hospital.
Main things were - severe tooth infection, high fever, thrushes,
mucosities
and not having food for12 days and loosing weight. Due to intensive and
great care at the Hospital, the infected tooth was successfully
extracted,
then got inserted G-Tube. Overall, my treatment had to be stopped for 15
days and restarted on January 3. After leaving out hospital I've got very
up
in my spirit, that I passed a serious complication, that I was surrounded
with great compassionate and professional people. Notwithstanding all
things
around, surrounding health and social issues, that spirit and positive
attitude helped to pass the treatment. Currently I have 100% feeding by
tube; mucosities and thrush - come and go; same with nausea and vomiting;
pains; deteriorated hearing; lost 20lb; dry mouth et.c. But the main
thing that really makes me worry, is the last MRI: A week before the end
of
RT my doctor ordered MRI on the last day of RT; He explained it that as I
lost 2 weeks in the middle of the treatment, he would like to be sure if
I
need a couple more RT. I've got call by the nurse on February 8, that
there
is no need to get more therapy and I can get my copy of the MRI at front
desk of the clinic. What I read there - that my tumor shrinked from 41mm
to
26 mm. ( I am posting the MRI report just after this post in case some
knowledgeable prof. would like to comment on it). But what I get (let God
make me mistaken) that the treatment didn't help, as I still have the
cancer.
What can I tell? Great thanks to the hospital and the doctors, nurses,
the
great team who worked on me and the people who surrounded me in
newsgroups
and in life.
...I wish I am mistaken. I wish I still can be cured some day.
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Steph
medicine forum Guru
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| Posted: Wed Feb 22, 2006 6:54 am Post subject:
Re: Post-Treatment notes: MRI. Steph???
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"Araik Margarian" <aramargar1@aol.com> wrote in message
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J
medicine forum Guru
Joined: 29 Apr 2005
Posts: 612
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 12:44 am Post subject:
Re: Hello, God Bless, got back biopsies (xpost)
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Steve Kramer wrote:
| Quote: | "dave481" <daave481@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Got back biopsies and they have Adenocarcinoma in all 12 samples (he
took 14, don't know what happen to the other 2). Anyhow, on the Gleason
scale I had one-7, two-8s, six-9s, and two -10s. The uro said that is
an aggressive cancer and "appears" advanced. He ran a camera in
through my penis and said the bladder was clear. I've had moderate pain
in my hip and leg bone for about 3 months so tomorrow I go to an
imaging center for a CT of abdomen and pelvic. Then to the nuclear part
of that place for a bone scan. This all came about because of a
colonoscopy that shows a "larger than golf ball" tumor in my colon. So
all the Drs. will be putting their heads together to form a battle plan
based on tomorrows results. Does anyone know anything about this type
of cancer you can share? Or the reliabilty of the Gleason scale?
David
Very few here (3 in 4 years) have had a Gleason of 10. I believe they will
find that your tumor is a prostate cancer tumor in your colon as opposed to
colon cancer.
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How would they know, since they're both adenocarcinomas ?
Which opens up the question of post-op treatment.
Depending on the pathology report of the colon tumour, post op chemo is
sometimes advised.
Which leaves him (taking) post op chemo for the colon and post op hormone
therapy for the prostate ?
J
Note: crosspost for opinion elsewhere
| Quote: | While that is bad news, it might not be as bad as a colon
cancer tumor which, I believe, is more deadly.
There is probably no harder analysis in medicine that determining the
difference between Gleasons, but your 10s are not going to be read by others
as 7s. You have very serious prostate cancer.
Riding horses after normal prostate cancer is not a problem. I assume they
will have to cut out the colon tumor and resection the colon which may be
the larger question regarding horseback riding. |
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Steve Kramer
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 1:26 am Post subject:
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"J" <studras@anon.inv> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Steve Kramer wrote:
How would they know, since they're both adenocarcinomas ?
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I don't know. But, I'm almost certain that they can. Especially now that
they know the DNA of prostate cancer... or is it the prostate cancer
chromozome of DNA?
| Quote: | Which opens up the question of post-op treatment.
Depending on the pathology report of the colon tumour, post op chemo is
sometimes advised.
Which leaves him (taking) post op chemo for the colon and post op hormone
therapy for the prostate ?
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I think it is very early to worry about that, J. He still has scans and
other tests to complete to determine if he has metastases on his bones and
elsewhere. If he has both kinds of cancers, he's going to have to get
applicable treatment for each and both cannot be contraindicated with each
other. I.P. is the expert in this area.
I suspect that if he has colon and prostate cancer and no other mets, they
will cut out the colon tumor and radiate the prostate.
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PSA 16 10/17/2000 @ 46
Biopsy 11/01/2000 G7 (3+4), T2c
RRP 12/15/2000 G7 (3+4), T3cN0M0 Neg margins
PSA .1 .1 .1 .27 .37 .75
EBRT 05-07/2002 @ 47
PSA .34 .22 .15 .21 .32
Lupron 07/03 (1 mo) 8/03 (4 mo), 12/03, 4/04, 09/04, 01/05, 5/05, 10/05,
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Steph
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 1:51 am Post subject:
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"J" <studras@anon.inv> wrote in message
news:44039CF0.4030B7DA@execulink.com...
| Quote: | Steve Kramer wrote:
"dave481" <daave481@yahoo.com> wrote in message
Got back biopsies and they have Adenocarcinoma in all 12 samples (he
took 14, don't know what happen to the other 2). Anyhow, on the Gleason
scale I had one-7, two-8s, six-9s, and two -10s. The uro said that is
an aggressive cancer and "appears" advanced. He ran a camera in
through my penis and said the bladder was clear. I've had moderate pain
in my hip and leg bone for about 3 months so tomorrow I go to an
imaging center for a CT of abdomen and pelvic. Then to the nuclear part
of that place for a bone scan. This all came about because of a
colonoscopy that shows a "larger than golf ball" tumor in my colon. So
all the Drs. will be putting their heads together to form a battle plan
based on tomorrows results. Does anyone know anything about this type
of cancer you can share? Or the reliabilty of the Gleason scale?
David
Very few here (3 in 4 years) have had a Gleason of 10. I believe they
will
find that your tumor is a prostate cancer tumor in your colon as opposed
to
colon cancer.
How would they know, since they're both adenocarcinomas ?
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Usually, prostate cancer cells will stain for psa, even if the blood test is
negative.
I don't recall the entire story here, but recurrent prostate cancer
presenting as a mass in the rectum is not uncommon. |
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I. P. Freely
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 7:21 am Post subject:
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J wrote:
| Quote: | Steve Kramer wrote:
I believe they will
find that your tumor is a prostate cancer tumor in your colon as opposed to
colon cancer.
How would they know, since they're both adenocarcinomas ?
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PC is PC is PC. It's unmistakable (as PC) no matter where it occurs.
I.P. |
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I. P. Freely
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 7:28 am Post subject:
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Steve Kramer wrote:
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I suspect that if he has colon and prostate cancer and no other mets, they
will cut out the colon tumor and radiate the prostate.
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I can't imagine using RT when they must open him up anyway to get the
CC. As long as they're in there, may as well grab the prostate at the
same time and do the pathology. Prostate excision is the more exacting
surgery, especially if nerve sparing is done, but the CC surgery is
arguably the bigger recovery issue simply because it's a bigger zipper
and requires more hospital time.
I.P. |
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Steph
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:17 am Post subject:
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"I.P. Freely" <fuhgheddaboutit@noway.nohow> wrote in message
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| Quote: | J wrote:
Steve Kramer wrote:
I believe they will
find that your tumor is a prostate cancer tumor in your colon as opposed
to
colon cancer.
How would they know, since they're both adenocarcinomas ?
PC is PC is PC. It's unmistakable (as PC) no matter where it occurs.
I.P.
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It's not quite that clear cut.
A poorly diff prostate cancer may be indistinguishable from a poorly diff
colon cancer, if they don't express PSA or CEA respectively |
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Steph
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 8:18 am Post subject:
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"I.P. Freely" <fuhgheddaboutit@noway.nohow> wrote in message
news:gYSMf.913$F26.884@fe04.lga...
| Quote: | Steve Kramer wrote:
I suspect that if he has colon and prostate cancer and no other mets,
they will cut out the colon tumor and radiate the prostate.
I can't imagine using RT when they must open him up anyway to get the CC.
As long as they're in there, may as well grab the prostate at the same
time and do the pathology. Prostate excision is the more exacting surgery,
especially if nerve sparing is done, but the CC surgery is arguably the
bigger recovery issue simply because it's a bigger zipper and requires
more hospital time.
I.P.
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Resection of a colon cancer, especially in the transverse or right colon, is
a MUCH simpler and less morbid surgery than radical prostatectomy |
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Steve Kramer
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| Posted: Tue Feb 28, 2006 3:44 pm Post subject:
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"Steph" <steph@vancouvers.island> wrote in message
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| Quote: | A poorly diff prostate cancer may be indistinguishable from a poorly diff
colon cancer, if they don't express PSA or CEA respectively
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Mind you, I have not read this anywhere. Nor would I have expected to. The
discovery of the chromozomes in DNA particular to PCa is so new that the
writing of it has probably not extended to a dicsussion of determining
origin. But, I would guess now that the chromozomes have been identified,
it should be a simple process to determine if the DNA taken from a mass is
PCa or CCa.
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