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J
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 11:21 pm    Post subject: Re: A 23-year-old man died four months after he was diagnosed with cancer when he suffered a reaction to chemotherapy drugs Reply with quote

bj wrote:

Quote:
"J" <macyinno@nospam.inv> wrote in message
curtis wrote:

Cancer drug reaction led to death


What's your point?

Are you just trying to draw attention to this particular story for some
reason?
Scare people away from having treatment?
Cautionary tale about the dangers of treatment?
(vs the dangers of letting it go, perhaps?)
Encourage (more) informed consent?

I'm sure we can find such stories about practically any medical procedure or
treatment -- many of which are "toxic" in some way, otherwise they wouldn't
kill off the bad stuff.
bj
(consumer of nuclear waste)

bj,
There's been no objection on the other cancer newsgroup where it was posted.
I can't post about a death by a quack and ignore this one. That's dishonest.
I find good news items, I find bad news items. Sorry you don't like the latter.

it was posted for discussion. not to scare people..
"He had an abnormal reaction to a normal dose."

I expect it's rare, especially in someone so young and at the outset of
treatment.

Maybe the doctors here have an idea whet might have precipitated this <
information lacking>.

And I object to them calling it "death by natural causes" (barring further
information).
My thought is maybe he had another health condition that he and/or the family
were unaware of or do not want revealed.
J
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 4:58 pm    Post subject: Re: A 23-year-old man died four months after he was diagnosed with cancer when he suffered a reaction to chemotherapy drugs Reply with quote

bj wrote:

Quote:
"J" <macyinno@nospam.inv> wrote in message

curtis wrote:

Cancer drug reaction led to death


What's your point?

They're both news. Don't like 'em, don't read them.
J
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 3:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Australian cancer patient killed by quack doctor's poison Reply with quote

Now if the guy could just kill a half-million more cancer patients,
he'd be sworn in as a member of the 'mainstream medical community' here
in the US.

J wrote:
Quote:
curtis wrote:

Australian cancer patient killed by quack doctor's poison, Thai police
say

July 12, 2006
Arrested ... Hellfried Sartori.
Photo: AP

AN AUSTRALIAN woman is believed to be among the victims of a
deregistered doctor accused of peddling fake cures for cancer and AIDS
in Thailand.
Hellfried Sartori, 67, is being held on charges of fraud and practising
medicine without a licence in the northern city of Chiang Mai.

Police allege that several ill foreigners travelled to Thailand with
false hopes for his cures, only to die after receiving injections of a
dangerous chemical compound bought for $A50,000 from Sartori.

Bangkok's Nation yesterday reported that one Australian cancer patient,
Kathleen Preston, had died in a Thai hospital last July. An autopsy
report found an excessive amount of potassium in her blood, the report
stated.

Ms Preston's death is being investigated by the Northern Territory
Coroner, a spokeswoman, Lorelei Fong Lim, said. "The NT Coroner's office
is investigating the death of NT resident Kathleen Preston," she said.
"It would be inappropriate to speculate or pre-empt any outcome of the
investigation."
In Canberra, Australian Federal Police said they had passed on
information from police in Western Australia and the Northern Territory
regarding Sartori's arrest. A spokesman denied a report the AFP would be
seeking to extradite Sartori to face charges. Northern Territory police
and Western Australian police both declined to comment.

Thai police said Sartori's internet advertisements offered desperate
people all over the world the false prospect of a cure for "everything
from AIDS and cancer to allergies and hardening of the arteries".
His patients had "consultations" carried out in various hotel rooms in
Chiang Mai. Several had died in hospitals in Chiang Mai, according to
Thai police.

Chiang Mai detectives said Sartori, who studied medicine in his native
Austria, had been convicted in the US of illegally administering his
so-called "ozone treatments", and had been jailed in New York State in
May 1992 and Washington in July 1998.

Professor Bruce Armstrong, the director of research at the Sydney Cancer
Centre at the Royal Prince Alfred Hospital, dismissed the cancer
treatments offered by Sartori.
"Neither ozone treatments nor cesium chloride have any evidence based
behind them for being effective as cancer therapies," he said.

Sartori had been stripped of his medical licence in several US states,
police said.
It was not clear yesterday when he would appear in court or if he would
face more charges. The investigation is widening following reports he
had links with cancer treatment groups in Perth and Darwin.
New Zealand police also joined the investigation after a national, named
as Melissa Judith Taylor in Nation, was admitted unconscious to
intensive care at Chiang Mai Hospital.

Hospital officials said yesterday the woman had recovered sufficiently
to return home.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/nothing-to-investigate/2006/07/12/1152637715442.html

Don't investigate, says victim's husband
July 12, 2006 - 11:58AM

Handcuffed Austrian man Hellfried Sartori sits after being arrested in
Thailand.
Photo: AP

The husband of a terminally ill Australian woman who died in Thailand after
undergoing a "natural" cancer treatment says there's nothing for police to
investigate.

Northern Territory authorities today said they were investigating the death
of 58-year-old Kathleen Preston in relation to an alleged bogus cancer cure
scam in Thailand.

Austrian man Hellfried Sartori, 67, is being held on charges of fraud and
practising medicine without a licence in the northern city of Chiang Mai.

Sartori is a former doctor who was deregistered in the United States where
he has served jail terms for touting his so called cancer cures.

Thai police allege several foreigners travelled to Thailand with false hopes
only to die after being given injections of a dangerous chemical compound
for which they paid $50,000.

But Mrs Preston's husband Keith today said there was nothing for police to
investigate.
"There's nothing wrong," he said.
He said his wife had been forced overseas after Australian doctors said they
could do nothing for her.
As well as receiving the "natural" treatment in Thailand, Mrs Preston also
travelled to Singapore and Mexico for help, he said.
"You won't get anything done in Australia," Mr Preston said.

"They tell you to go home and die. They weren't doing anything.
"It's not the doctors, its probably the way the government's run - they are
more interested in giving away money overseas then spending money on their
own."

Mr Preston said his wife died in a Thai hospital two years ago, after
suffering ovarian cancer for 10 years.
He described her as "the longest surviving ovarian cancer patient in the
world".
"She lived a very good healthy life," he said.
Mr Preston did not believe the cost of the treatment his wife received in
Thailand was too high.
"Not when you consider when you go to hospital and they give you chemo it
costs $30,000 that we are paying as tax payers," he said.
"The drug companies love it."

Earlier today, the NT Justice Department said: "The NT Coroner's Office is
investigating, through the NT Police, the death of NT resident Kathleen
Preston.

"That investigation has not yet been completed and it would be inappropriate
to speculate or preempt any outcome of the investigation."

NT Police later confirmed their current coronial investigation did not stem
from a complaint over Mrs Preston's death.

"There was no complaint received," a spokeswoman said.
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 2:27 pm    Post subject: Re: A 23-year-old man died four months after he was diagnosed with cancer when he suffered a reaction to chemotherapy drugs Reply with quote

"J" <macyinno@nospam.inv> wrote in message
news:44B4C72D.21A11618@execulink.com...
Quote:
curtis wrote:

Cancer drug reaction led to death


What's your point?

Are you just trying to draw attention to this particular story for some
reason?
Scare people away from having treatment?
Cautionary tale about the dangers of treatment?
(vs the dangers of letting it go, perhaps?)
Encourage (more) informed consent?

I'm sure we can find such stories about practically any medical procedure or
treatment -- many of which are "toxic" in some way, otherwise they wouldn't
kill off the bad stuff.
bj
(consumer of nuclear waste)
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J
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:55 am    Post subject: A 23-year-old man died four months after he was diagnosed with cancer when he suffered a reaction to chemotherapy drugs Reply with quote

curtis wrote:

Quote:
Cancer drug reaction led to death

A 23-year-old man died four months after he was diagnosed with cancer
when he suffered a reaction to chemotherapy drugs, an inquest has heard.
Darren Elliot, from Warminster in Wiltshire, was having treatment for a
large tumour in his neck.

But an "abnormal reaction" to drugs at the Royal United Hospital in Bath
caused an infection.

This, in turn, caused massive bleeding in his lungs, leaving him
"drowning in his own blood".

Bristol Coroner's Court heard Mr Elliot was diagnosed with
naso-pharyngeal carcinoma - a rare form of cancer more usually seen in
China and Hong Kong - last August.
He was drowning in his own blood

He was admitted to the RUH, and given a course of chemotherapy, but
suffered an adverse reaction, which left him with sores around his
mouth.
His sister Stephanie Daniels said: "It was like someone had thrown acid
on his mouth. Inside it was also red raw. He couldn't speak and had to
communicate with pen and paper."
Dr Hugh Newman, who treated Mr Elliot, said: "He had an abnormal
reaction to a normal dose."
'Abrupt deterioration'
Mr Eliot's white blood cell and platelet count plummeted, leaving him
highly susceptible to infection, and he developed a fungal infection and
breathing difficulties.

Dr Timothy Cook, a consultant treating Mr Elliot on the afternoon of 2
November, said: "He had a very sudden and abrupt deterioration in his
condition.
"He was bleeding very extensively from his windpipe very rapidly. He was
drowning in his own blood."
Darren's own body appears to have reacted quite abnormally to the
chemotherapy

Tony Woodburn
Avon deputy coroner

Doctors battled for more than an hour to save Mr Elliot but were unable
to resuscitate him.

Recording a verdict of death by natural causes, Avon deputy coroner Tony
Woodburn said: "The very rarity of this cancer and the unexpected
reaction to the treatment led to his demise.
"The problem came in the chemotherapy itself. Darren's own body appears
to have reacted quite abnormally to the chemotherapy that he had been
given."
Speaking after the hearing, Mr Elliot's family said they were angry that
the hospital told them he had a good chance of recovering.

His mother Flora said: "We never really got a chance to come to terms
with what was happening and talk to him about it - they built our hopes
up and we were told he had a good chance of getting better."
Acting director of nursing at the RUH Carol de Halle said: "On behalf of
the Royal United Hospital, I would like to convey my very deepest
sympathies to Darren's family.

"Hospital staff did all they could to support
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 9:53 am    Post subject: Australian cancer patient killed by quack doctor's poison Reply with quote

curtis wrote:

Quote:
Australian cancer patient killed by quack doctor's poison, Thai police
say

July 12, 2006
Arrested Hellfried Sartori.
Photo: AP

AN AUSTRALIAN woman is believed to be among the victims of a
deregistered doctor accused of peddling fake cures for cancer and AIDS
in Thailand.
Hellfried Sartori, 67, is being held on charges of fraud and practising
medicine without a licence in the northern city of Chiang Mai.

Police allege that several ill foreigners travelled to Thailand with
false hopes for his cures, only to die after receiving injections of a
dangerous chemical compound bought for $A50,000 from Sartori.

Bangkok's Nation yesterday reported that one Australian cancer patient,
Kathleen Preston, had died in a Thai hospital last July. An autopsy
report found an excessive amount of potassium in her blood, the report
stated.

Ms Preston's death is being investigated by the Northern Territory
Coroner, a spokeswoman, Lorelei Fong Lim, said. "The NT Coroner's office
is investigating the death of NT resident Kathleen Preston," she said.
"It would be inappropriate to speculate or pre-empt any outcome of the
investigation."
In Canberra, Australian Federal Police said they had passed on
information from police in Western Australia and the Northern Territory
regarding Sartori's arrest. A spokesman denied a report the AFP would be
seeking to extradite Sartori to face charges. Northern Territory police
and Western Australian police both declined to comment.

Thai police said Sartori's internet advertisements offered desperate
people all over the world the false prospect of a cure for "everything
from AIDS and cancer to allergies and hardening of the arteries".
His patients had "consultations" carried out in various hotel rooms in
Chiang Mai. Several had died in hospitals in Chiang Mai, according to
Thai police.

Chiang Mai detectives said Sartori, who studied medicine in his native
Austria, had been convicted in the US of illegally administering his
so-called "ozone treatments", and had been jailed in New York State in
May 1992 and Washington in July 1998.

Professor Bruce Armstrong, the director of research at the Sydney Cancer
Centre at the Royal Prince Alfred Hospital, dismissed the cancer
treatments offered by Sartori.
"Neither ozone treatments nor cesium chloride have any evidence based
behind them for being effective as cancer therapies," he said.

Sartori had been stripped of his medical licence in several US states,
police said.
It was not clear yesterday when he would appear in court or if he would
face more charges. The investigation is widening following reports he
had links with cancer treatment groups in Perth and Darwin.
New Zealand police also joined the investigation after a national, named
as Melissa Judith Taylor in Nation, was admitted unconscious to
intensive care at Chiang Mai Hospital.

Hospital officials said yesterday the woman had recovered sufficiently
to return home.

http://www.smh.com.au/news/world/nothing-to-investigate/2006/07/12/1152637715442.html

Don't investigate, says victim's husband
July 12, 2006 - 11:58AM

Handcuffed Austrian man Hellfried Sartori sits after being arrested in
Thailand.
Photo: AP

The husband of a terminally ill Australian woman who died in Thailand after
undergoing a "natural" cancer treatment says there's nothing for police to
investigate.

Northern Territory authorities today said they were investigating the death
of 58-year-old Kathleen Preston in relation to an alleged bogus cancer cure
scam in Thailand.

Austrian man Hellfried Sartori, 67, is being held on charges of fraud and
practising medicine without a licence in the northern city of Chiang Mai.

Sartori is a former doctor who was deregistered in the United States where
he has served jail terms for touting his so called cancer cures.

Thai police allege several foreigners travelled to Thailand with false hopes
only to die after being given injections of a dangerous chemical compound
for which they paid $50,000.

But Mrs Preston's husband Keith today said there was nothing for police to
investigate.
"There's nothing wrong," he said.
He said his wife had been forced overseas after Australian doctors said they
could do nothing for her.
As well as receiving the "natural" treatment in Thailand, Mrs Preston also
travelled to Singapore and Mexico for help, he said.
"You won't get anything done in Australia," Mr Preston said.

"They tell you to go home and die. They weren't doing anything.
"It's not the doctors, its probably the way the government's run - they are
more interested in giving away money overseas then spending money on their
own."

Mr Preston said his wife died in a Thai hospital two years ago, after
suffering ovarian cancer for 10 years.
He described her as "the longest surviving ovarian cancer patient in the
world".
"She lived a very good healthy life," he said.
Mr Preston did not believe the cost of the treatment his wife received in
Thailand was too high.
"Not when you consider when you go to hospital and they give you chemo it
costs $30,000 that we are paying as tax payers," he said.
"The drug companies love it."

Earlier today, the NT Justice Department said: "The NT Coroner's Office is
investigating, through the NT Police, the death of NT resident Kathleen
Preston.

"That investigation has not yet been completed and it would be inappropriate
to speculate or preempt any outcome of the investigation."

NT Police later confirmed their current coronial investigation did not stem
from a complaint over Mrs Preston's death.

"There was no complaint received," a spokeswoman said.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 01, 2006 6:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Danger in your water Reply with quote

<nyscof@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1151750732.479172.248480@j8g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
Prevention Magazine Fluoridation Article published

"The Danger in Your Water Fluoride has been tied to bone cancer,
lower IQs, and osteoporosis. So why is it still being added to your
water? " by Timothy Gower.


Becuase the people tying it to these diseases are loonies without any
evidence to support their lunacy?

Quote:
http://www.prevention.com/water/fluoride_home
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 30, 2006 3:00 pm    Post subject: Re: She overcam stage 4 ovarian cancer at age 92. Was it a miracle, carboplatin, the doctor, or resveratrol? Reply with quote

SeniorARK wrote:
Quote:
Dear Friends,
Please read this remarkable story of hope. My 92 year old mother beat
stage 4 cancer. Her gynecological oncologist at the University of
Pittsburgh Medical Center gave her no hope. Six months later he called
her "MY miracle" to a group of his medical students.
Ursula Fassbach's cancer was ovarian, liver, and more. But the
information in her story, and another article I will tell you about,
may apply to several other cancers.
You will need to go to my Senior website, http://www.seniorark.com. It
is not-for-profit, and no ads. I have created this large Senior site as
a labor of love. On the home page, click on the link in the right hand
column that begins "AT 92 she..." to go directly to her story. Then go
back to the home page and click on the link in the left hand column
that begins with "Cancer?..." My site is absolutely free. I have
nothing to sell. The site generates NO revenue.
Anyone with cancer, or with a loved one who has cancer, MUST read
these two items. I hope they will open up a whole new world of hope to
you. If you have any problems reaching the site, or if you have
additional questions, feel free to mail me at seniorark@aol.com . I
will respond as a special honor to my Mother.
Best to all, Bob Fassbach, seniorark@aol.com if you have comments or
questions. Feel free.

How about some full disclosure, like the fact that she died only a year
later from a blood clot? If my wife had died a year after diagnosis
and surgery, I could have claimed her to have been cured of gallbladder
cancer. Instead, after a year and a half, it came back. Now, 3 years
later, she is dying from the cancer.

You are a fraud.
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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 7:44 pm    Post subject: Re: Acupuncture in cancer treatment Reply with quote

Peggy,
My brother in law, had lung cancer, years ago was reduced the symptoms
(pain, vomiting, dry mouth) with acupuncture.
It has been proven in clinical studies, you can search the information
from ASCO website.



Bless you
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PostPosted: Sun May 28, 2006 7:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Acupuncture in cancer treatment Reply with quote

Hi,
Acupuncture might help the cancer side effect.
My friend had tried it before, she suffered from vomiting and nausea
due to cancer.
She used acupuncture for one month, and it really works, her symptoms
got a lot of improvement.
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PostPosted: Sat May 27, 2006 7:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Transfusion increases cancer mortality Reply with quote

Steph wrote:
Quote:
ironjustice@aol.com> wrote in message
news:1148744776.266319.93360@j33g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Cancer-Specific Mortality Is Increased By Erythrocyte Transfusion In
Patients Undergoing Surgery For Renal Cell Carcinoma - AUA 2006


This has been known for years. What's your point?



You must be psychic.It's only just been published.
(Or are those 'novices' at Mayo just waking up?
>
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PostPosted: Thu May 25, 2006 1:34 am    Post subject: Re: The iron "story", things to ponder Reply with quote

"J W" <jonboy42@webtv.net> wrote in message
news:9581-4474948A-42@storefull-3253.bay.webtv.net...
Quote:
Yes there is a such thing as iron deficiency. anemai via low iron is a
red flag for colon cancer and almost always indicates it.

Nonsense

Quote:
My hemoglobin
went from 16 to 12 to 8 withn a few months time and stage 4 colon cancer
was found.

There are also cases recorde whee the body takes iron and hides it in
various places that cancer may have difficulty getting to causing a
false iron deficient anemia.. One shold be thoroughly checked for
cancers if an iron deficient anemia is present.


There is some truth to that

Quote:
meat in general is not the best thing for the human body and if we must
eat it, then it should be eaten in moderation. Red meat is the best
source for iron but it is also very difficult and time consuming to
digest causing foods eaten behind it that would normally be digested
quickly to si and ferment which leads to problems. Especialy fruits and
sugars as they can cause candida yeast oovergrowth in the colon which is
not good





Your grasp of gastrointestinal physiology leaves something to be desired.
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PostPosted: Wed May 24, 2006 5:14 pm    Post subject: Re: The iron "story", things to ponder Reply with quote

Yes there is a such thing as iron deficiency. anemai via low iron is a
red flag for colon cancer and almost always indicates it. My hemoglobin
went from 16 to 12 to 8 withn a few months time and stage 4 colon cancer
was found.

There are also cases recorde whee the body takes iron and hides it in
various places that cancer may have difficulty getting to causing a
false iron deficient anemia.. One shold be thoroughly checked for
cancers if an iron deficient anemia is present.

meat in general is not the best thing for the human body and if we must
eat it, then it should be eaten in moderation. Red meat is the best
source for iron but it is also very difficult and time consuming to
digest causing foods eaten behind it that would normally be digested
quickly to si and ferment which leads to problems. Especialy fruits and
sugars as they can cause candida yeast oovergrowth in the colon which is
not good
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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 6:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Stomach cancer with a high intake of meat Reply with quote

outsor@citynet.net wrote:
Quote:
"ine I'll reply if you do the same. no more skipping over items you do ot
want to address.

fail to see how those who took the silver lived and those who did not ied
subjective. If the test are so poor (both ASAP and African docs id
testing) why did they certify it and purchase it for use in their
ospitals. Usually this is when we get into the racist voodoo stuff."

It was one of the worst example of a poor effort of a sham at being
scientific one could imagine, it violates all the norms of scientific
testing. Which makes any claims or your questions about outcomes
irrelevant. All snake oil claims have results and have the countless
testimonials to "prove" it.

Want to give your name and credentials otherwise your comments are
worthless. no offense, they just are.

Quote:

"If it's a supplement and the VA purchased it, that by all logical
interpretations means VA hospitals are using it internally on their
patients. They have different silver products for topical use."

I read the page carefully, did you? They have three products in this
category, one the va purchase and the other two variations of the coloid
silver notion. The va purchase order is the former, the malaria
supplement snake oil the latter. This is not my idea, they state it
plainly on that page that the lattter is a non approved supplement.

It is time to stop this thread for lack of any additional supporting
claims for the coloidal type products as being any else then snake oil,
poor logic and rhetorical tap dancing aside.

BS you are liar. The VA purchased the same product that is used in
Africa. I've read and been through this argument before. Yes, I agree,
it's time you shut up.
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PostPosted: Wed May 10, 2006 6:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Stomach cancer with a high intake of meat Reply with quote

outsor@citynet.net wrote:
Quote:
"If it's not shown yet to be safe or effective. (not true, the WHO has
declared there is no toxicity) how can you call it snake oil? either"

Please present a web based source for any who information. I tire of this
pointless jousting, this aimless foot stomping and hand waving.
Either
show coloildal silver has by proper scientific research been shown to be
effictive and safe or stop wasting our time.

Exaggerated commercial health claims for colloidal silver use against
serious medical conditions and OTC or self-treatment without adequate
supervision or well-informed protocols, adds legitimacy to
regulator's concerns, yet much misinformation about colloidal silver
toxicity has its genesis in the protectionist pharma-cartel and its
bought and / or ideologically biased lap-dog regulatory agencies. As an
example, consider this paradox, forced upon the Australian Therapeutic
Goods Administration when it recently attempted to regulate colloidal
silver as a medicine because of "significant toxicity and no
legitimate uses" but had to amend its own illogical legislation so as
to effectively exempt colloidal silver provided it is sold for use in
the "purification or treatment of drinking water without therapeutic
claims" (Commonwealth of Australia, Special Gazette No S 486, 20
December 2002). The obvious absurdity is that a substance cannot be
toxic and useless only when sold with therapeutic claims, yet safe and
efficacious if added to drinking water at the same approved
concentrations, in this instance, over an entire lifetime.

Some foods accumulate silver, eg mushrooms may boost silver consumption
up to between 200 to 300ppm per day. Approximately 10% of
orally-ingested silver enters systemic circulation and of that, up to
98% is gathered up by metallothioneins, which transport, store and
detoxify essential and nonessential trace metals (Silver, The Healthful
Metal, Silver Institute, Wash, December 31, 1999). Argyria, a
bluish-grey discoloration of the skin, although not aesthetic, is
extremely rare, is "non-pathogenic" / "medically benign" and a
daily ingestion dose of 1-30gram would be required to induce the
condition (Fowler B, Nordberg G, "Silver", in Handbook on the
Toxicology of Metals, Friberg L et al, eds. Elsevier Sci Pub, Vol 2,
521-31, 1986); (US EPA, Integrated Risk Information System:
'Silver', 1998). Approximately 3.5gram daily over an entire
lifetime will be required to cause argyria, according to a year 2000
estimate by international trace mineral expert, Prof Alexander Schauss,
PhD, Director of Life Sciences at John Hopkins University, in response
to FDA proposals, which is 10,000 times that advocated.

Ionic/atomic silver is an effective antimicrobial at concentrations
astronomical orders of magnitude below what is harmful to higher life
forms. Concentrations necessary to sterilise drinking water (or by
extension, body fluids - we are 70% water) contaminated with
pathogens are 40-200 gamma / .04-.2ppm (1ppm = 1000 gamma) (Thomson N,
Comprehensive Inorganic Chemistry, Pergamon, NY, 1973). Most colloidal
silver available in South Africa is generated by a water purification
device from the Gaia Research Institute, producing 1ppm of silver (and
possibly a suggested microbicidal synergism with 5-15 drops of hydrogen
peroxide). One teaspoon (5ml) of 1ppm colloidal silver in a glass
(250ml) of water equals 20ppb. Since drinking water guidelines relate
to lifetime exposure for the most susceptible sub-groups, calculated at
2 litres a day over an entire lifetime, one could safely consume 8
glasses each with 5 teaspoons (25 ml) of 1 ppm of colloidal silver
every day without risk of argyria, the only and purely hypothetical
risk to users. Most commonly used is a mere teaspoon in a glass of
water 3 or 4 times daily.

Colloidal Silver and hydrogen peroxide, especially in combination,
exhibit significant microbial inactivation at concentrations that pose
no health risk according to the EEC, WHO and US EPA. Several countries,
including Switzerland, Germany and Australia have given approval for
the use of colloidal silver and hydrogen peroxide as a drinking water
disinfectant. The EEC and Israel Ministry of Health have specifically
approved the use of colloidal silver as a drinking water disinfectant
at an MCL (Maximum Contaminant Level) of 80ppb (Pedahzur, R et al,
Water Sci Technol, 31(5-6), 1995). Widespread use might result in
potential for uptake of silver ions by humans, but research suggests
that: "risks are minimal under all likely scenarios" (Final Report:
Evaluation of the Efficacy of a New Secondary Disinfectant Formulation
Using Hydrogen Peroxide and Silver. US EPA NNCER, Dec 3, 2001).

The USA EPA has declared that "silver does not cause adverse health
effects" and set a MCL at 100 ppb for all drinking water. Recently an
EU Drinking Water Standard proposed removing any upper limit for silver
in drinking water, following the WHO's Guidelines for Drinking Water
Quality, which states that: "it is not necessary to recommend any
health-based guidelines for silver as it is not hazardous to human
health" ("Silver Water Purification Systems Offer Reliable Alternative
to Chlorine", The Silver Institute, Wash, March 25, 1997). The World
Health Organisation still advocates 100ppb levels of silver for
drinking water (Pelkonen K et al, Toxicology, 186(1-2), 2003). I shall
resist arguing for the efficacy of colloidal silver against bacteria,
viruses, spore-forming organisms, yeasts and mould fungi, since this
should be beyond dispute. As mentioned previously, we are comprised of
75% water. By restoring and maintaining the integrity of that water, we
restore and maintain the integrity of the body by freeing it of
pathogens. Herein lies the paradox of philosophically diametrically
opposed public health authorities both praising and demonizing the same
substance. I shall leave it to the now informed reader to decide either
way.

Stuart Thomson

Director, Gaia Research Institute, Knysna.

http://www.gaiaresearch.co.za/silver2.html#LETTER:%20COLLOIDAL%20SILVER%20IN%20PERSPECTIVE
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