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Dr. Wayne Simon medicine forum Guru Wannabe
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Posted: Sun Oct 09, 2005 3:29 am Post subject:
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"Ernie Sty" <fake_email@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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In article<89c8d6f6.0408311232.4d40816f@posting.google.com>, john russel
john_r78@hotmail.com> writes:
Hi,
About a year ago a new doctor switched me from Paxil to Prozac,
because the Paxil seemed to have burnt out (after 2 years). After 3
days on Prozac I had an unusual orgasm, where there was a long (4
seconds?) delay after the orgasm started (no pulsing) and before
ejaculation, and then the semen just ran out, it didn't "shoot" as
usual. The next orgasm, 2 days later, was more normal and did not have
the delay, but the semen just ran out again, and the feeling was not
nearly as intense as normal. When the same thing happened again (a
couple days later) I quit taking the prozac. The change in orgasm
didn't go away, and the feeling is still not very intense - it's been
over a year now.
Is there anything I can do to correct this problem and be back to
normal? I cross-posted this to the prostate group, as someone there
may have an answer. There was never any pain during orgasm. I think it
would be quite a coincedence if I actually have a problem with my
prostate.
SSRIs often cause reduced, delayed, or no- orgasm. The effect is
less obvious with paxil than prozac, because paxil clears from the body
in about 2.5 days but prozac in about 21 days.
Three weeks? I thought it was more like four to six?
I do not know if there is scientific evidence to back this up, but I have
heard a few patients that have been switched from typical antihypertensive
meds, to ARB's (angiotensin receptor blockers), that their sexual climax
was enhanced. I have never looked this up in the literature to see if it
has been reported in the medical literature. Just a thought based on a few
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Squiggles medicine forum beginner
Joined: 08 Jun 2005
Posts: 40
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Posted: Wed Oct 12, 2005 12:50 pm Post subject:
Re: Paxil risks birth defects
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kr0 wrote:
| Quote: | It seems that the antidepressant Paxil may cause an increased risk of birth
defects to the child of mothers taking the drug during pregnancy. The FDA
has issued an alert to both consumers and healthcare workers concerning
this. If you go to
https://www.lawyersandsettlements.com/case/paxil_birth_defects there is more
information on the risks involved. There is also a free case evaluation
provided for those who might have been affected by this. I hope that this
may be of some help.
kr0
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Yes, I saw that. Aren't most of these drugs risky in the first
trimester of pregnancy?
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bobmartin12@gmail.com medicine forum beginner
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Posted: Thu Oct 13, 2005 7:31 am Post subject:
Re: Paxil risks birth defects
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Warnings/Precautions
Before taking Paxil, tell your doctor if you have liver disease, kidney
disease, seizures or epilepsy, or a manic disorder or suicidal
thoughts. You may not be able to take Paxil, or you may need a dosage
adjustment or special monitoring during treatment if you have any of
the conditions listed above.
http://www.epsdrugstore.com/Anti-Depressent-paxil.htm Paxil is in the
FDA pregnancy category C. This means that it is not known whether it
will be harmful to an unborn baby. Do not take Paxil without first
talking to your doctor if you are pregnant or could become pregnant
during treatment. Paxil passes into breast milk and may affect a
nursing baby. Do not take Paxil without first talking to your doctor if
you are breast-feeding a baby.
Possible Side Effects
If you experience any of the following serious side effects, stop
taking Paxil and contact your doctor immediately or seek emergency
medical treatment: an allergic reaction (difficulty breathing; closing
of the throat; swelling of the lips, tongue, or face; or hives); an
irregular heartbeat or pulse; low blood pressure (dizziness, weakness);
high blood pressure (severe headache, blurred vision); unusual bleeding
or bruising; or fever or
chills.http://www.epsdrugstore.com/Anti-Depressent-paxil.htm Less
serious side effects may be more likely to occur. Continue to take
Paxil and talk to your doctor if you experience headache; tremor,
nervousness, or anxiety; nausea, diarrhea, dry mouth, or changes in
appetite or weight; sleepiness or insomnia; or decreased sex drive,
impotence, or difficulty having an orgasm. Side effects other than
those listed here may also occur. Talk to your doctor about any side
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Bob Travis medicine forum beginner
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Posted: Fri Oct 21, 2005 10:31 am Post subject:
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Maybe there are additional factors to be considered: pre-diabetes, low
testosterone, psychogenic problems. I would talk to my psychiatrist or
seriously consider getting a second opinion. Possibly qnother drug would
work better: Wellbutrin, Elavil, perhaps an MAO inhibitor, or maybe a
different SSRI with fewer side effects.
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In article<89c8d6f6.0408311232.4d40816f@posting.google.com>, john russel
john_r78@hotmail.com> writes:
Hi,
About a year ago a new doctor switched me from Paxil to Prozac,
because the Paxil seemed to have burnt out (after 2 years). After 3
days on Prozac I had an unusual orgasm, where there was a long (4
seconds?) delay after the orgasm started (no pulsing) and before
ejaculation, and then the semen just ran out, it didn't "shoot" as
usual. The next orgasm, 2 days later, was more normal and did not have
the delay, but the semen just ran out again, and the feeling was not
nearly as intense as normal. When the same thing happened again (a
couple days later) I quit taking the prozac. The change in orgasm
didn't go away, and the feeling is still not very intense - it's been
over a year now.
Is there anything I can do to correct this problem and be back to
normal? I cross-posted this to the prostate group, as someone there
may have an answer. There was never any pain during orgasm. I think it
would be quite a coincedence if I actually have a problem with my
prostate.
SSRIs often cause reduced, delayed, or no- orgasm. The effect is
less obvious with paxil than prozac, because paxil clears from the body
in about 2.5 days but prozac in about 21 days.
Three weeks? I thought it was more like four to six?
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Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom medicine forum Guru
Joined: 28 Apr 2005
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 2:07 am Post subject:
Ribavirin and Avian Flu (Re: TAMIFLU effectiveness questioned: shortens illness one day
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fresh~horses wrote:
| Quote: | http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/331/7524/1041?ehom
"I would like to know what evidence there is that Tamiflu actually
alters mortality," {Joe Collier, professor of medicines policy at St
George's Hospital Medical School, London, and former editor of the Drug
and Therapeutics Bulletin} said.
"And if it doesn't then what are we doing? What it certainly does is
shorten the illness by a day, but the question is-does that matter?"
On the other side of the Atlantic Canada's federal health minister,
Ujjal Dosanjh, told listeners to an interview on a Canadian
Broadcasting Corporation radio programme ("The Current," 27 Oct) that
oseltamivir did not prevent infection with the flu virus and that at
best it would reduce the severity of the illness.
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The full article on TAMIFLU in BMJ:
http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/326/7401/1235
"The results of our systematic review show that treating otherwise
healthy adults and children with zanamivir and oseltamivir reduces the
duration of symptoms in the intention to treat population by between
0.4 and 1.0 days and provides 29% to 43% relative reduction in the odds
of complications requiring antibiotics when these are given within 48
hours of onset of symptoms. The results were less conclusive in the
high risk population (as defined in the methods) though these were
based on fewer patients. Caution is required when comparing the results
because the definition of symptoms assessed for alleviation in the
treatment trials varied among trials of the two compounds, and between
adults and children for each compound. Moreover, the time to event
outcomes were measured on different scales (days and hours). Also, the
rates of flu positive (=49%) individuals who were enrolled in the
trials may be higher than the rates identified routinely in clinical
practice. Thus, the treatment effects estimated for the ITT trial
populations may not be achievable in routine practice.
The data on complications reported above were not ideal because they
relied primarily on pooled marginal analyses and thus did not take into
account any heterogeneity between trials.19 20 It is not clear how well
complications requiring antibiotics correlate with the incidence of
more serious complications of flu. Little evidence exists either on
serious complications requiring admission to hospital or causing death
or on adverse events. Both of these are evidently rare (at least in
otherwise healthy individuals) but are potentially important in the
evaluation of treatments; the trials were underpowered in terms of such
outcomes. Insufficient data are available from clinical trials to
assess adequately the risk of emergence of resistance to neuraminidase
inhibitors.
A lack of evidence exists for use of neuraminidase inhibitors for
preventing flu in children and in frail elderly people in residential
care. We found that neuraminidase inhibitors given for flu prevention
led to a relative reduction of 70% to 90% in the odds of developing
flu, depending on the strategy adopted and the population studied.
In conclusion, although evidence from randomised controlled trials
consistently supports the clinical effectiveness of both oseltamivir
and zanamivir for the treatment and prevention of flu, evidence is
limited for the treatment of high risk populations and for all
prevention strategies. Research is needed into the comparative
effectiveness of neuraminidase inhibitors with one another and the
potential "added value" of these drugs compared with or in combination
with flu vaccine."
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COMMENT:
Here, for the record, is the NEJM / WHO review--- everything you wanted
to know about bird flu. The New England Journal, BTW, thinks use of
Tamiflu and Relenza is entirely reasonable as treatment in humans.
http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/353/13/1374
The NEJM also mentions ribavirin, a nucleoside antiviral presently used
for hepatitis C and RSV virus in children. Ribavirin was invented at
ICN in the early 1970's and its patents as an antiviral have long since
expired. Early on it was discovered that ribavirin protects mice from
influenza death, but ICN could not get the FDA to approve it for this
use in humans. ICN had jumped the gun and misbranded the drug for use
in both RSV and flu, and the rumor is the FDA "punished" the company by
refusing to approve it for flu use, EVER, until the patent ran out.
Ostensibly the FDA simply chose to believe human studies finding the
drug had NO effect in humans, but not studies showing it did. And yet
the drug is as active against influenza in culture as it is against
RSV, a virus it's approved for (in inhaled form).
The ribavirin fight has had many twists and turns. When ICN (through
Schering Plough) wanted to market ribavirin capsules in the US, as part
of a combo treatment for hepatitis C, there was a problem. The FDA knew
that once the capsules had been approved for ONE use, they could be
used for any other (like flu). So it allowed Schering to get around the
long expired oral ribavirin patent by marketing the combo treatment
with interferon-- nothing anybody with flu would be able to afford.
People who wanted ribavirin capsules have had to purchase it as ICN's
"ribavirina" (trade name Vilona) in Mexico, and import it. A difficult
process.
The fact that ribavirin had long been off patent, but was still being
controled by Schering in the US, led to patent fights between ICN,
Schering, and various generic companies who wanted to make generic
ribavirin. One of those fights was won by Three Rivers Pharmaceuticals
in 2003 (http://www.hivandhepatitis.com/hep_c/news/071803a.html), but
the FDA has dragged on approving generic ribavirin until last month.
"Ribasphere" the generic ribavirin capsule will finally be marketted by
Par Pharmaceuticals, which licenses it from Three Rivers:
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/051024/clm015.html?.v=25
http://www.drugs.com/ribasphere.html
Indication will only be for treating hepatitis C, but once released,
the drug can be used for anything, including influenza.
It may be no coincidence that the FDA has finally acted on this matter
now, with bird flu starting us in the face. Ribavirin is considerably
easier to produce than is oseltamivir (Tamiflu), and many generic
companies will have no difficulty with it. It adds one more badly
needed weapon to the armamentium against avian flu, which is already
usually resistant to the amatidine-class drugs, and has even been
reported in a strain resistant to Tamiflu.
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notritenoteri medicine forum beginner
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Posted: Sun Nov 06, 2005 2:33 pm Post subject:
Re: Ribavirin and Avian Flu (Re: TAMIFLU effectiveness questioned: shortens illness one day
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So you have faith in Science, that it will save the world or at least the
USA when the "troubles" start? I find it somewhat funny that GWB is going to
allocate some 7 billion for flu. WHat is that in terms of weeks in Iraq?
About 7 isn't it it? I guess maybe its not that an important issue?
"Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com" <sbharris@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
news:1131242831.549577.70550@o13g2000cwo.googlegroups.com...
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fresh~horses wrote:
http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/331/7524/1041?ehom
"I would like to know what evidence there is that Tamiflu actually
alters mortality," {Joe Collier, professor of medicines policy at St
George's Hospital Medical School, London, and former editor of the Drug
and Therapeutics Bulletin} said.
"And if it doesn't then what are we doing? What it certainly does is
shorten the illness by a day, but the question is-does that matter?"
On the other side of the Atlantic Canada's federal health minister,
Ujjal Dosanjh, told listeners to an interview on a Canadian
Broadcasting Corporation radio programme ("The Current," 27 Oct) that
oseltamivir did not prevent infection with the flu virus and that at
best it would reduce the severity of the illness.
`````````````````````````````
The full article on TAMIFLU in BMJ:
http://bmj.bmjjournals.com/cgi/content/full/326/7401/1235
"The results of our systematic review show that treating otherwise
healthy adults and children with zanamivir and oseltamivir reduces the
duration of symptoms in the intention to treat population by between
0.4 and 1.0 days and provides 29% to 43% relative reduction in the odds
of complications requiring antibiotics when these are given within 48
hours of onset of symptoms. The results were less conclusive in the
high risk population (as defined in the methods) though these were
based on fewer patients. Caution is required when comparing the results
because the definition of symptoms assessed for alleviation in the
treatment trials varied among trials of the two compounds, and between
adults and children for each compound. Moreover, the time to event
outcomes were measured on different scales (days and hours). Also, the
rates of flu positive (=49%) individuals who were enrolled in the
trials may be higher than the rates identified routinely in clinical
practice. Thus, the treatment effects estimated for the ITT trial
populations may not be achievable in routine practice.
The data on complications reported above were not ideal because they
relied primarily on pooled marginal analyses and thus did not take into
account any heterogeneity between trials.19 20 It is not clear how well
complications requiring antibiotics correlate with the incidence of
more serious complications of flu. Little evidence exists either on
serious complications requiring admission to hospital or causing death
or on adverse events. Both of these are evidently rare (at least in
otherwise healthy individuals) but are potentially important in the
evaluation of treatments; the trials were underpowered in terms of such
outcomes. Insufficient data are available from clinical trials to
assess adequately the risk of emergence of resistance to neuraminidase
inhibitors.
A lack of evidence exists for use of neuraminidase inhibitors for
preventing flu in children and in frail elderly people in residential
care. We found that neuraminidase inhibitors given for flu prevention
led to a relative reduction of 70% to 90% in the odds of developing
flu, depending on the strategy adopted and the population studied.
In conclusion, although evidence from randomised controlled trials
consistently supports the clinical effectiveness of both oseltamivir
and zanamivir for the treatment and prevention of flu, evidence is
limited for the treatment of high risk populations and for all
prevention strategies. Research is needed into the comparative
effectiveness of neuraminidase inhibitors with one another and the
potential "added value" of these drugs compared with or in combination
with flu vaccine."
COMMENT:
Here, for the record, is the NEJM / WHO review--- everything you wanted
to know about bird flu. The New England Journal, BTW, thinks use of
Tamiflu and Relenza is entirely reasonable as treatment in humans.
http://content.nejm.org/cgi/content/full/353/13/1374
The NEJM also mentions ribavirin, a nucleoside antiviral presently used
for hepatitis C and RSV virus in children. Ribavirin was invented at
ICN in the early 1970's and its patents as an antiviral have long since
expired. Early on it was discovered that ribavirin protects mice from
influenza death, but ICN could not get the FDA to approve it for this
use in humans. ICN had jumped the gun and misbranded the drug for use
in both RSV and flu, and the rumor is the FDA "punished" the company by
refusing to approve it for flu use, EVER, until the patent ran out.
Ostensibly the FDA simply chose to believe human studies finding the
drug had NO effect in humans, but not studies showing it did. And yet
the drug is as active against influenza in culture as it is against
RSV, a virus it's approved for (in inhaled form).
The ribavirin fight has had many twists and turns. When ICN (through
Schering Plough) wanted to market ribavirin capsules in the US, as part
of a combo treatment for hepatitis C, there was a problem. The FDA knew
that once the capsules had been approved for ONE use, they could be
used for any other (like flu). So it allowed Schering to get around the
long expired oral ribavirin patent by marketing the combo treatment
with interferon-- nothing anybody with flu would be able to afford.
People who wanted ribavirin capsules have had to purchase it as ICN's
"ribavirina" (trade name Vilona) in Mexico, and import it. A difficult
process.
The fact that ribavirin had long been off patent, but was still being
controled by Schering in the US, led to patent fights between ICN,
Schering, and various generic companies who wanted to make generic
ribavirin. One of those fights was won by Three Rivers Pharmaceuticals
in 2003 (http://www.hivandhepatitis.com/hep_c/news/071803a.html), but
the FDA has dragged on approving generic ribavirin until last month.
"Ribasphere" the generic ribavirin capsule will finally be marketted by
Par Pharmaceuticals, which licenses it from Three Rivers:
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/051024/clm015.html?.v=25
http://www.drugs.com/ribasphere.html
Indication will only be for treating hepatitis C, but once released,
the drug can be used for anything, including influenza.
It may be no coincidence that the FDA has finally acted on this matter
now, with bird flu starting us in the face. Ribavirin is considerably
easier to produce than is oseltamivir (Tamiflu), and many generic
companies will have no difficulty with it. It adds one more badly
needed weapon to the armamentium against avian flu, which is already
usually resistant to the amatidine-class drugs, and has even been
reported in a strain resistant to Tamiflu.
Steve Harris
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Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom medicine forum Guru
Joined: 28 Apr 2005
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 3:08 am Post subject:
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notritenoteri wrote:
| Quote: | So you have faith in Science, that it will save the world or at least the
USA when the "troubles" start? I find it somewhat funny that GWB is going to
allocate some 7 billion for flu. WHat is that in terms of weeks in Iraq?
About 7 isn't it it? I guess maybe its not that an important issue?
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COMMENT:
Don't ask me to account for the many unwise behaviors of GW Bush,
financial and otherwise. In this matter, it's probable that our
opinions agree.
Now, back to medicine and pharmacy, please.
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notritenoteri medicine forum beginner
Joined: 21 Jul 2005
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Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2005 1:54 pm Post subject:
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I would really like to stick to the facts BUT unfortunately politics seems
to get into the equation at just about every turn. I'm a cynic and sceptic.
I take just about everything with the proverbial dose of salts. Medicine and
pharmacy are included in the everything set.
The philosphy of throw enough money at a problem seems to be the predominant
AMerican one. UNfortunately experience suggests rather strongly that some
problems are at our current level of intellect, unsolvable mo matter how
much money is used.
"Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com" <sbharris@ix.netcom.com> wrote in message
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notritenoteri wrote:
So you have faith in Science, that it will save the world or at least
the
USA when the "troubles" start? I find it somewhat funny that GWB is
going to
allocate some 7 billion for flu. WHat is that in terms of weeks in
Iraq?
About 7 isn't it it? I guess maybe its not that an important issue?
COMMENT:
Don't ask me to account for the many unwise behaviors of GW Bush,
financial and otherwise. In this matter, it's probable that our
opinions agree.
Now, back to medicine and pharmacy, please.
SBH
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Wild Monkshood medicine forum beginner
Joined: 22 Dec 2005
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Posted: Thu Dec 22, 2005 11:45 pm Post subject:
Re: Cholesterol drugs/Lipitor and grapefruit
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oldal4865 wrote:
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There's some guy on television advertising a book with "Cures They Don't
Want You To Know About" Sounds like the book might be a good idea until
you find out that he has been convicted of fraud and spent time in jail.
Such a deal!
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Just our of curiosity, I picked up the book to flip through. I think
the fraud author is named Kevin Traduea (sp). Anyway, the cure for
diabetes answer was basically a bunch of crap about he'd get in trouble
if he told you but gave some additional info where you might could go
find the cure if you were so inclined to do some footwork. Pitiful scam.
Wild Monkshood
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There isn't much out there that anybody can keep secret anymore. Somebody
always blabs and it gets around really fast. Don't worry so much about
stuff like that.
Regards
Old Al
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Rich medicine forum Guru
Joined: 03 May 2005
Posts: 585
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 1:49 am Post subject:
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aniramca@yahoo.com wrote:
| Quote: | There are so much discussion about mixing cholesterol drug with
grapefruit or grapefruit juice. When someone asks about this question
in a newsgroup like this one, there are so many replies. However, we
usually never get straight explanations from our own doctors, or even
from the companies that make the products... except warning and warning
from the pharmacy, that you cannot use the medication and drink
grapefruit juice at the same time. PERIOD. No further explanation. Is
there scientific explanation?
Is it possible that this is all just a commercial gimmick? Perhaps
grapefruit has similar chemical contents like those of the cholesterol
drugs. Therefore, you can only use one over the other. Of course, the
pharmaceutical companies doesn't want people to know that, because it
is cheaper to buy, drink grapefruit juice, or eat grapefruit than
buying those overpriced drugs.
Can someone put a light on this... again?
Does grapefruit have the ability to loose weight? Perhaps there is a
connection between grapefruit, loosing weight and reducing cholesterol?
Are those cholesterol drugs (secretly) made of grapefruit?
Just curious... ie. in this age and time... you cannot trust
information sources that you get from the proper authorities any
longer! They had been abusing their knowledges for too long!
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Sharon Hope medicine forum Guru
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Posted: Fri Dec 23, 2005 8:48 pm Post subject:
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You said: "If you read what I saide, both my endo and my pharmacist said a
small amount if fine."
I have no doubt that your doctor and pharmacist told you that.
My husband's internist and cardiologist told him that he should ignore
muscle pain while on Lipitor 10 mg for 4 years. That advice has caused him
to be disabled for 8 YEARS. The adverse effects, which they ignored,
included muscle pain, muscle wasting and apoptosis, mitochondrial damage,
cognitive damage, memory loss, amnesia, aphasia and neuropathy.
At 54 years old, he could not stand upright for 4 minutes, without crumpling
to the floor like a pile of laundry, unable to get back up.
That doctors might be ignorant of dangerous side effects does not surprise
us in the least.
Take a look at the credible sources and see for yourself the dangers you are
being exposed to by mixing grapefruit juice in ANY AMOUNT with Lipitor.
EIGHT YEARS (and counting) of disability in constant excruciating pain with
a short-term memory below the 1 percentile is not worth a few sips of
grapefruit juice with Lipitor. It won't be the doctors who are
inconvenienced by your disability.
"W. Baker" <wbaker@panix.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | In alt.support.diabetes Sharon Hope <shope@anet.net> wrote:
: Wendy,
: That is NOT TRUE - you were dangerously misinformed. There is great
danger
: in eating the grapefruit at any time of day when taking a statin,
because
: the effects of the grapefruit last THREE DAYS or more. Rhabdo can
result,
: and that is a potentially deadly condition - and many of those who
survive
: must be on kidney dialysis for the rest of their lives. Please DO NOT
: follow that very bad and very dangerous advice, and do not propagate it
on
: the internet.
: Please look at Health Canada's site:
:
http://www.hc-sc.gc.ca/iyh-vsv/food-aliment/grapefruit-pamplemousse_e.html
: Note that it says:
: How Grapefruit and Its Juice React with Certain Medications
: There are substances in grapefruit that can interfere with the way your
body
: absorbs and breaks down (metabolizes) certain drugs. This interference
: allows a higher amount of the drug than usual to circulate in your
: bloodstream, which can occasionally result in serious or
life-threatening
: adverse reactions.
: As little as one glass of grapefruit juice (8 oz. or 250 mL) can cause
an
: increased blood drug level and the effects can last for three days or
more.
: Therefore, even if you drink the juice in the morning and do not take
your
: medication until bedtime, the level of the drug in your blood could
still be
: affected.
: The effects vary from one person to another, from one drug to another,
and
: from one grapefruit juice preparation to another. This results in an
: unpredictable increase in blood drug level, which in some cases can
cause
: serious effects.
: Minimizing Your Risk
: Take the following precautions to minimize the risk of adverse effects
when
: consuming grapefruit or its juice:
: a.. If you are taking medication for any of the conditions listed
above,
: DO NOT drink grapefruit juice or eat grapefruit in any form until you
have
: talked to your doctor and your pharmacist about the potential for an
adverse
: reaction.
: b.. Avoid taking any drug with grapefruit juice until you have talked
to
: your doctor or pharmacist.
: c.. Read the labels on foods and natural health products to make sure
they
: do not contain grapefruit or its juice, or Seville oranges.
: d.. Always report any adverse drug reaction to your doctor or
pharmacist
: immediately.
If you read what I saide, both my endo and my pharmacist said a small
amount if fine. I never drink 8 oz of any juice and didn't even before
diagnosis. currently, if I have a hypo I take about 1 1/2 oz of OJ and
then some rye cracker with eithe rpeanu butter or cheese on. It woudl
take more than a grapefruit, squeezed, to get 8 oz inof juice in a classl.
I am talking about a13 ar breakfast with other fruits, cottage chese and
yogurt or , at ost, half grapefruit at cinner occasionally. I do this
with the full approval of my medical advisors. They know I control my
quantities o I wouldn't have an A1c of 5.2.
Wendy
: "W. Baker" <wbaker@panix.com> wrote in message
: news:doene0$lks$1@reader1.panix.com...
: > In alt.support.diabetes Erskine James <erskinej@gmail.com> wrote:
: > :
:
http://www.lifeclinic.com/focus/cholesterol/articleView.asp?MessageID=672
:
:
: > : Bottom line--grapefruit juice contains something that slows down
: > : liver's processing of certain drugs. Simvastatin and atorvastatin
are
: > : the big 2 affected by this. This means people who eat grapefruit
and
: > : take those 2 have higher levels of statins in their body for the
same
: > : dosing--this increases your risk of side effects.
:
: > apparantly, this also aplies to Metformin as well, which also acts on
the
: > liver. I have been told by both my endo and my pharmacist, that
: > occasional small amounts of grapefruil are fine. For the
lipitor(which I
: > take at bedtime) it is better not to eat the grapefruit at the same
time
: > as you take the drug, but some i the morning or een at dinner, if not
: > terribly late, it is no problem.
:
: > Wendy
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W. Baker medicine forum beginner
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Posted: Fri Dec 30, 2005 2:55 am Post subject:
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In alt.support.diabetes Pumbaa <pinkertonjames@hotmail.com> wrote:
: >
: It used to be that only banks thought every month had 30 days (for
: calculating interest). Most months have thirty-one days so a person needs
: 31 tablets for a month based on one tablet a day. How did doctors ever come
: up with writing for thirty tablets? Maybe talking to their bankers or using
: the Jewish calendar.
30 days has September, April, June and November. All the rest have 31
except February which has 28 in fine, until leap year gives it 49.
alternately, 30 days has September, April, June and No wonder, everyone
else eats peanut butter except Grandma. She deives a buick.
The Jewish calander is also not uniform, with some months 29 and others 30
dependign on a complicated formula.
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Dave Bird medicine forum beginner
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Posted: Tue Jan 03, 2006 9:51 pm Post subject:
Re: SSRI-Induced SEXUAL DYSFUNCTION, assorted remedies for....
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In article<3_ednQBbRbg8-NjeRVn-uw@giganews.com>, Ernie Sty
<fake_email@yahoo.com> writes:
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"Dave Bird" <dave.xemu.deleteThe@nospam.demon.co.uk> wrote in message
news:Wg6XNfA$wnNBFwnL@xemu.demon.co.uk...
In article<89c8d6f6.0408311232.4d40816f@posting.google.com>, john russel
john_r78@hotmail.com> writes:
Hi,
About a year ago a new doctor switched me from Paxil to Prozac,
because the Paxil seemed to have burnt out (after 2 years). After 3
days on Prozac I had an unusual orgasm, where there was a long (4
seconds?) delay after the orgasm started (no pulsing) and before
ejaculation, and then the semen just ran out, it didn't "shoot" as
usual. The next orgasm, 2 days later, was more normal and did not have
the delay, but the semen just ran out again, and the feeling was not
nearly as intense as normal. When the same thing happened again (a
couple days later) I quit taking the prozac. The change in orgasm
didn't go away, and the feeling is still not very intense - it's been
over a year now.
Is there anything I can do to correct this problem and be back to
normal? I cross-posted this to the prostate group, as someone there
may have an answer. There was never any pain during orgasm. I think it
would be quite a coincedence if I actually have a problem with my
prostate.
SSRIs often cause reduced, delayed, or no- orgasm. The effect is
less obvious with paxil than prozac, because paxil clears from the body
in about 2.5 days but prozac in about 21 days.
Three weeks? I thought it was more like four to six?
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You are probably right -- it may be that the textbook says levels HALVE
in three weeks, hence 6 to 9 weeks to get rid of it altogether.
I have never used it myself.
In article<is36f.500804$xm3.474223@attbi_s21>, Bob Travis
<e_quip@hotmail.com> writes:
| Quote: | Maybe there are additional factors to be considered: pre-diabetes, low
testosterone, psychogenic problems. I would talk to my psychiatrist or
seriously consider getting a second opinion. Possibly qnother drug would
work better: Wellbutrin, Elavil, perhaps an MAO inhibitor, or maybe a
different SSRI with fewer side effects.
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Search the web, or the record of this newsgoup, for terms
'SSRI' AND 'Sexual Dysfunction'. I have written about it before.
You should try *** STABLON *** and WELLBUTRIN combined. Doses of
3mg Aprima/Apomorphine, currently sold as a viagra type sexual booster,
might also benefit individual occasions. (I am not an MD).
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JPG medicine forum Guru
Joined: 24 May 2005
Posts: 569
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Posted: Sun Mar 05, 2006 5:09 pm Post subject:
Re: What pharmicies allow no questions asked returns?
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| Quote: | why did you fill a prescription if it was never used or opened?
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I dropped off the prescription and told them to fill
them and put charges on my VISA card
I didn't realize that Viagra is NOT covered by my
insurance! When I picked them up (via drive thru) they
had already paid for them via my VISA card and I didn't
open bag to see amt till I got home
Cost was abt $130 for ten 100mg pills! Ouch!
I tried taking them back but was refused.
I fucked up guys I admit
But I will be stopping the antidepressants soon.....
and would rather just do "without" and not use Viagra
till then.
I'm a starving adult college student.... working full
time and going to college full time at nights. And
paying for school myself. I could have use that $130
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