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Alexander Vasserman DDS
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 4:41 am    Post subject: Re: so are you saying neither will help Reply with quote

gummybear wrote:
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hi tks for your replies but i'm still not understanding you are you
saying to skip surgery then? i had the Deep root planing &
scaling and went to see another perio for his consultation and he
recommend me to do surgery and bone grafting Shocked tks

Your engine block is still worn despite you cleaning all the parts and
getting 4 consults on a very typical problem.
Don't you think you should address the resurfacing issue (bone grafting
and surgery) to get better performance and longer engine life???
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Alexander Vasserman DDS
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 4:35 am    Post subject: Re: gum surgery versus laser Reply with quote

gummybear wrote:
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I have been diagnosed with advanced periodontitis on two quads and
need flap surgery however i read laser is an option--i was wondering
if the laser would kill the bacteria where deep cleaning and root
planing could not get to (had that done versus the surgery two years
ago) some say that was option A but to me there is no option except
surgery after two years of researching and hearing what second,
third, fourth perios have to say--i think i still need surgery so any
thoughts or responses would be appreciated before heading for the
scalpel YIKES!!! ( i am definitely dentistphopia) due to childhood
experience three front teeth with NO ANESTHESIA OR NOVaCAINE

Translation analogy of what you are asking us.

My car has been diagnosed with advanced engine wear on 2 cylinders and
I need to get
it fixed by removing the engine however i read a power wrench is an
option--i was wondering if the power wrench would resurface the
breakdown in the engine where doing a thorough cleaning of the engine
would not fix the problem (had that done versus the taking the engine
apart two years ago) some say that was option A but to me there is no
option except taking the engine apart after two years of researching
and hearing what second, third, fourth mechanics have to say--i think i
still need to take the engine apart so any thoughts or responses would
be appreciated before heading for the traditional wrench YIKES!! (i am
definitely mechanicphobic) due to childhood experience with my tricycle
and no safety devices or Nike helmet.
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ckouza@eudoramail.com
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 2:21 am    Post subject: Re: gum surgery versus laser Reply with quote

Joel,

My hygienist doesn't use the ultrasonic scaler ... Can you think of a
case(s) where scraping is preferred. (My old hygienist uses the
ultrasonic scaler, though.) Could it be a funding issue? ... my current
hygienist and dentist are members of a faculty group practice at USC.

Also, were you serious about being willing to look at x-rays from
posters?
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gummybear
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PostPosted: Sun Jul 16, 2006 12:54 am    Post subject: so are you saying neither will help Reply with quote

hi tks for your replies but i'm still not understanding you are you saying to skip surgery then? i had the Deep root planing & scaling and went to see another perio for his consultation and he recommend me to do surgery and bone grafting Shocked tks
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Joel M. Eichen
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:13 pm    Post subject: Re: gum surgery versus laser Reply with quote

Well, if you have gingivitis, and / or periodontitis (INFLAMMATION of
the supporting structures), then a thorough prophylaxis or tooth
cleaning, complete with ultrasonic Cavitron debridement will reduce
inflammation.

Home care is essential.

Now some dentists call this exact procedure SRP, scaling and root
planing at $600 a pop, others call it anything else and toss in
irrigation at $40 a quadrant, but all in all, periodontal concerns are
best addressed through prevention and home care.

Now the APA (Periodontists' Association ~ PERIODONTISTS!) dream up
classifications, treatment modalities, everything but please remember
this is a chronic disease. What this means is that 5 years or 10 years
goes by and its impossible to say "THIS HELPED," or "That DID NOT
help."

The studies themselves are flawed as I elaborated in hundreds of posts
right here. More about PerioChip, Periostat, and Arestin later, if you
have lots of stamina to read my posts!

Some of them that is. I hear there are around 46,000 of them!


Joely


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gummybear
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 8:13 am    Post subject: re:gum surgery versus laser Reply with quote

so are you saying neither will help?
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Joel M. Eichen
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 1:29 am    Post subject: Re: gum surgery versus laser Reply with quote

Six dozen of one .... half of the other .... its marketing hype!

Show me someone who has been cured
of periodontitis and I will show you .. well you
get the idea.


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gummybear
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 15, 2006 12:22 am    Post subject: gum surgery versus laser
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I have been diagnosed with advanced periodontitis on two quads and need flap surgery however i read laser is an option--i was wondering if the laser would kill the bacteria where deep cleaning and root planing could not get to (had that done versus the surgery two years ago) some say that was option A but to me there is no option except surgery after two years of researching and hearing what second, third, fourth perios have to say--i think i still need surgery so any thoughts or responses would be appreciated before heading for the scalpel YIKES!!! ( i am definitely dentistphopia) due to childhood experience three front teeth with NO ANESTHESIA OR NOVaCAINE
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