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cathyb
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Jan Drew wrote:
<snip irrelevant crap>
The point, Jan, is not that thimerosal isn't about 50% mercury by
weight; it's that that fact has absolutely nothing to do with its
chemistry and therefore its toxicity.
The use of the figure as a scaremongering tactic is therefore downright
dishonest. Not that that would bother you.
I know that this has been explained to you before. Add chemistry to the
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Peter Bowditch
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"Jan Drew" <jdrew1374@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
<snip advertising sites>
| Quote: | Web Results 1 - 10 of about 848 for Thimerosal is 49.6% mercury by
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Jan, it wouldn't matter if there were 1,000,000,000 references on the
web which said that "Thimerosal is 49.6% mercury by weight". It is a
figure which means nothing. Ask a chemist. (One who knows something,
not someone with an agenda to push and things to sell.)
--
Peter Bowditch aa #2243
The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au
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Bryan Heit
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\"Jan Drew\"
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"Bryan Heit" <bjheit@NOSPAMucalgary.ca> wrote in message
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Bryan
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No, that is a lie and a diversion often used by organized brainwashed
medicine believers.
Who are DISHONEST. Like YOU.
http://www.nsc.org/ehc/chemical/Mercury.htm
http://www.toxicteeth.org/rebuttal.cfm |
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\"Jan Drew\"
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http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=16807526&query_hl=2&itool=pubmed_docsum
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=11770890&query_hl=2&itool=pubmed_docsum
http://www.altcorp.com/dentalinformation/amalgampage.htm
http://www.altcorp.com/dentalinformation/mercurylinks.htm
http://www.altcorp.com/dentalinformation/thimerosal.htm
http://www.altcorp.com/dentalinformation/dentistshgexposure.htm
Google:
Web Results 1 - 10 of about 848 for Thimerosal is 49.6% mercury by
weight. (0.50 seconds)
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/059e33b38fe97b31?hl=en&
In June 1999, the Food and Drug Administration discovered that "Infants
who
receive thimerosal containing vaccine at several visits may be exposed to
more
mercury than recommended by Federal guidelines for total mercury
exposure."
Thimerosal, a preservative used in some vaccines to prevent contamination,
is
49.6% mercury by weight. Infants who are being vaccinated using multi-dose
vials with thimerosal can receive 62.5 micrograms of mercury per visit.
For an
average sized child this represents an exposure approximately 100 times
the 0.1
micrograms per kilogram of daily exposure considered safe by the
Environmental
Protection Agency. The manufactures safety data sheet for thimerosal
states,
"Highly toxic.Danger of cumulative effects.Avoid prolonged or repeated
exposure"
Don't let that one get in your way Mark.
Sock it to newborn babies.
Me thinks you didn't even read them.
It's called organized medicine believers's tactics.
SQWACK WHINE SQWACK.
Written and overseen by Lewis Mehl-Madrona, M.D., Ph.D.
Metal-Metabolism and Autism: Dr. William Walsh of the Pfeiffer Treatnent
Center
and Dr. Anjum Usman have discovered that defective functioning of
metallothionein protein (MT) is a distinctive feature of autism. In
humans, MT
proteins regulate blood levels of these trace minerals, detoxify mercury
and
other heavy metals, and assist in neuronal development. The expected
consequences of defective MT during gestation or early infancy are
consistent
with several classic symptoms of autism.
Tthose liars!!!
Autism:
A Unique Type of
Mercury Poisoning
Mercy, DON'T READ THAT!!
Autism Research Institute
Stay away from that, they aren't in the back pocket of Organized medicine!
We work aggressively with government agencies and legislators to
facilitate the
removal of mercury from all medical products.
We strongly encourage research efforts to understand scientifically
how
mercury in these products is causing harm and how
effective
treatments can be developed.
Oh my,don't touch that with a 10 ' pole
Bring on MORE mercury!!!
Detoxification
Nasty word. Why would anyone want to detoxify that wonderful mercury?
My word, it's not highly toxic,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
ANTI VAC LIARS!
Autism-Mercury-Thimerosal.com
Why the vey idea. Thimerosal goes right straight through the body, zip
zip.
The families of nine autistic Georgia children claim in lawsuits that
mercury
exposure from dental fillings, vaccine preservatives and power plants
caused or
worsened the disability.
Those WHINERS, looking for someone to blame!!
AUTISM CAUSED BY CHILDHOOD VACCINATIONS CONTAINING THIMEROSAL OR MERCURY
Oh NO. Liars. liars liars!
Dr. William Walsh and Dr. Anjum Usman have discovered that defective
functioning of metallothionein protein (MT) is a distinctive feature of
autism.
This abnormality results in impaired brain development and extreme
sensitivity
to toxic metals and other environmental substances. This disorder is often
unnoticed in infancy and early childhood until aggravated by a serious
environmental insult.
In a study of 503 autism-spectrum patients, the authors found abnormal
levels
of copper and zinc in blood (p<0.0001) indicating defective functioning of
metallothionein (MT) proteins. Also, calculation of unbound copper
provides a
reliable indication of the degree of metallothionein function (or
dysfunction).
In humans, MT proteins regulate blood levels of these trace minerals,
detoxify
mercury and other heavy metals, and assist in neuronal development. The
expected consequences of defective MT during gestation or early infancy
are
consistent with several classic symptoms of autism. It appears that
defective
functioning of MT proteins may represent the underlying cause of autism.
A study of heavy metals!
These researchers should be shot!!
Mothers should not chew on their babies.
I see you are gradually getting back up to your usual level of discourse.
Vaccines ingredients:
Yum Yum
formaldehyde, phenol (carbolic acid), mercury, alum,aluminum phosphate,
acetone, horse blood, cow pox pus, rabbit brain tissue,dog kidney tissue,
egg
protein, sodium chloride, glycerin, sodium chloride,antibiotics, monkey
kidney
tissue chick embryos, human diploid cells(dissected organs of aborted
fetuses)
and decomposing protein, thimerosal.
http://www.healing-arts.org/children/holmes.htm#treatment
http://www.newstarget.com/011764.html
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Rich
medicine forum Guru
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Posts: 585
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"Jan Drew" <jdrew1374@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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"Bryan Heit" <bjheit@NOSPAMucalgary.ca> wrote in message
news:e933i3$sp$1@news.ucalgary.ca...
Table salt is 60.66276% chlorine, which is more toxic then mercury:
Bryan
No, that is a lie and a diversion often used by organized brainwashed
medicine believers.
Who are DISHONEST. Like YOU.
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No, it's NOT a lie. Salt IS 60% chlorine, and chlorine IS a deadly poison.
But salt is not poisonous for the same reason than dental amalgam is not
poisonous and that is the point.
Speaking of lies, have you remembered yet what author gave you permission to
post "Stupid Skeptic Tricks" without attribution? Of course you haven't,
because you LIED. Now stop falsely accusing others of lying while you are a
PROVEN liar. And a thief!
--
--Rich
Recommended websites:
http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
http://www.acahf.org.au
http://www.quackwatch.org/
http://www.skeptic.com/
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Bryan Heit
medicine forum Guru Wannabe
Joined: 17 Nov 2005
Posts: 105
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Jan Drew wrote:
| Quote: | "Bryan Heit" <bjheit@NOSPAMucalgary.ca> wrote in message
news:e933i3$sp$1@news.ucalgary.ca...
Table salt is 60.66276% chlorine, which is more toxic then mercury:
Bryan
No, that is a lie and a diversion often used by organized brainwashed
medicine believers.
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No, it is not a lie. Had you actually looked at the MSDS's I linked you
to, you'd have seen that chlorine in more toxic then mercury. As for
the % makeup, that is easy:
MW Chlorine: 35.453
MW Sodium: 22.989770
Now, I know you're scientifically challenged, so I'll lead you through
this highly complex math.
Table salt (NaCl) has a molecular weight of 1 sodium atom + 1 chlorine
atom. That would be 22.989770 + 35.453 = 58.44277 g/mol
To calculate the % mass chlorine makes up in the molecule you divide the
total mass of the salt molecule by the mass of the chlorine atom, then
times that by 100:
(35.453/58.44277) * 100: 60.6627%
Comprendi?
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Peter Bowditch
medicine forum Guru
Joined: 25 Mar 2005
Posts: 352
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Re: The TRUTH Thimerosal IS 49.6% mercury by weight
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"Jan Drew" <jdrew1374@sbcglobal.net> wrote:
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"Bryan Heit" <bjheit@NOSPAMucalgary.ca> wrote in message
news:e933i3$sp$1@news.ucalgary.ca...
Table salt is 60.66276% chlorine, which is more toxic then mercury:
Bryan
No, that is a lie and a diversion often used by organized brainwashed
medicine believers.
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A lie? A lie?
a = Atomic weight of sodium = 22.99
b = Atomic weight of chlorine = 35.45
c = Molecular weight of sodium chloride = a+b = 58.44
d = b/c = 0.6066
e = 100*d = 60.66%
So that really can't be a lie, can it Jan?
Maybe you think that mercury is more poisonous that chlorine. If so,
why was chlorine used as a poison gas in WW1? Why didn't the Germans
just put mercury into the enemy's water supply? It would have been
cheaper and easier to do. Remember that the original Big Pharma,
Bayer, was a German company and could easily produce the necessary
chemicals.
Did you actually read that and understand it, Jan? I didn't think so.
Nothing about thimerosal there.
--
Peter Bowditch aa #2243
The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au
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\"Jan Drew\"
medicine forum Guru
Joined: 02 Mar 2006
Posts: 353
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Bryan Heit
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Posts: 105
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Jan Drew wrote:
Great rebuttal Jan; simply repost what you wrote before without even
making an attempt to address the content. . .
Bryan |
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Howard McCollister
medicine forum Guru Wannabe
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Posts: 243
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Jan Drew wrote:
| Quote: | http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=16807526&query_hl=2&itool=pubmed_docsum
http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?db=pubmed&cmd=Retrieve&dopt=Abstract&list_uids=11770890&query_hl=2&itool=pubmed_docsum
http://www.altcorp.com/dentalinformation/amalgampage.htm
http://www.altcorp.com/dentalinformation/mercurylinks.htm
http://www.altcorp.com/dentalinformation/thimerosal.htm
http://www.altcorp.com/dentalinformation/dentistshgexposure.htm
Google:
Web Results 1 - 10 of about 848 for Thimerosal is 49.6% mercury by
weight. (0.50 seconds)
http://groups.google.com/group/misc.health.alternative/msg/059e33b38fe97b31?hl=en&
In June 1999, the Food and Drug Administration discovered that "Infants who
receive thimerosal containing vaccine at several visits may be exposed to
more
mercury than recommended by Federal guidelines for total mercury exposure."
Thimerosal, a preservative used in some vaccines to prevent contamination,
is
49.6% mercury by weight. Infants who are being vaccinated using multi-dose
vials with thimerosal can receive 62.5 micrograms of mercury per visit. For
an
average sized child this represents an exposure approximately 100 times the
0.1
micrograms per kilogram of daily exposure considered safe by the
Environmental
Protection Agency. The manufactures safety data sheet for thimerosal states,
"Highly toxic.Danger of cumulative effects.Avoid prolonged or repeated
exposure"
Don't let that one get in your way Mark.
Sock it to newborn babies.
Me thinks you didn't even read them.
It's called organized medicine believers's tactics.
SQWACK WHINE SQWACK.
Written and overseen by Lewis Mehl-Madrona, M.D., Ph.D.
Metal-Metabolism and Autism: Dr. William Walsh of the Pfeiffer Treatnent
Center
and Dr. Anjum Usman have discovered that defective functioning of
metallothionein protein (MT) is a distinctive feature of autism. In humans,
MT
proteins regulate blood levels of these trace minerals, detoxify mercury and
other heavy metals, and assist in neuronal development. The expected
consequences of defective MT during gestation or early infancy are
consistent
with several classic symptoms of autism.
Tthose liars!!!
Autism:
A Unique Type of
Mercury Poisoning
Mercy, DON'T READ THAT!!
Autism Research Institute
Stay away from that, they aren't in the back pocket of Organized medicine!
We work aggressively with government agencies and legislators to facilitate
the
removal of mercury from all medical products.
We strongly encourage research efforts to understand scientifically
how
mercury in these products is causing harm and how
effective
treatments can be developed.
Oh my,don't touch that with a 10 ' pole
Bring on MORE mercury!!!
Detoxification
Nasty word. Why would anyone want to detoxify that wonderful mercury?
My word, it's not highly toxic,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
ANTI VAC LIARS!
Autism-Mercury-Thimerosal.com
Why the vey idea. Thimerosal goes right straight through the body, zip zip.
The families of nine autistic Georgia children claim in lawsuits that
mercury
exposure from dental fillings, vaccine preservatives and power plants caused
or
worsened the disability.
Those WHINERS, looking for someone to blame!!
AUTISM CAUSED BY CHILDHOOD VACCINATIONS CONTAINING THIMEROSAL OR MERCURY
Oh NO. Liars. liars liars!
Dr. William Walsh and Dr. Anjum Usman have discovered that defective
functioning of metallothionein protein (MT) is a distinctive feature of
autism.
This abnormality results in impaired brain development and extreme
sensitivity
to toxic metals and other environmental substances. This disorder is often
unnoticed in infancy and early childhood until aggravated by a serious
environmental insult.
In a study of 503 autism-spectrum patients, the authors found abnormal
levels
of copper and zinc in blood (p<0.0001) indicating defective functioning of
metallothionein (MT) proteins. Also, calculation of unbound copper provides
a
reliable indication of the degree of metallothionein function (or
dysfunction).
In humans, MT proteins regulate blood levels of these trace minerals,
detoxify
mercury and other heavy metals, and assist in neuronal development. The
expected consequences of defective MT during gestation or early infancy are
consistent with several classic symptoms of autism. It appears that
defective
functioning of MT proteins may represent the underlying cause of autism.
A study of heavy metals!
These researchers should be shot!!
Mothers should not chew on their babies.
I see you are gradually getting back up to your usual level of discourse.
Vaccines ingredients:
Yum Yum
formaldehyde, phenol (carbolic acid), mercury, alum,aluminum phosphate,
acetone, horse blood, cow pox pus, rabbit brain tissue,dog kidney tissue,
egg
protein, sodium chloride, glycerin, sodium chloride,antibiotics, monkey
kidney
tissue chick embryos, human diploid cells(dissected organs of aborted
fetuses)
and decomposing protein, thimerosal.
http://www.healing-arts.org/children/holmes.htm#treatment
http://www.newstarget.com/011764.html
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one thing I have learned from this exchange is that we need to remove
the dental amalgams from new-borns.
ACT NOW, before it is too late.
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john
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You have to admire their efforts to make thimerosal mercury free!
http://www.whale.to/vaccine/quotes19.html
"I reviewed my son's vaccine record to find that all his early vaccines
contained thimerosal and he had received 187.5 mcg of mercury in his
vaccines given the first six months of life. At each visit, two, four, and
six, he received a total of 62.5 mcg of mercury. These levels exceeded EPA's
allowable daily exposure of 0.1 mcg per kilogram at two months 125
fold."---Lyn Redwood, RN, MSN, CRNP
What many Pediatricians were calling a "small amount" of mercury was
actually a grand total for Will of 213 mcg or 316,530,973,856,000,000
molecules of mercury.--Angela's Story
"The vaccine contains 125,000 nanomolar level of mercury if it has
Thimerosal as a preservative. That's a huge amount. And one nanomolar levels
in the baby will prevent the macrophages from going through phagocytosis. In
other words, they will lose their ability to eat viruses and bacteria that
are in the blood that shouldn't be there, and so Thimerosal suppresses the
immune system. This is well known and has been well described in the
literature for a long time; that mercury is an immune system suppressor and
you see that these autistic children have a truckload of immune problems. So
you would prevent that from occurring. That is documented research and I don't
know how the government can even ignore it, or the agencies of the
government can ignore it. Interview of Dr. Boyd E. Haley by Teri Small:
In Katie Wedell's article, "A matter of understanding/Parents question role
of mercury in rising number of Autism cases," she states, "Mercury is
commonly used as a preservative in vaccines in a small amount." She goes on
to say, "There is no proven link between the small amounts of mercury found
in vaccinations and autism."
Thimerosal (50 percent mercury) is added to vaccines at a concentration
of 1:10,000. This is equivalent to a concentration of 100,000 parts per
billion (ppb). This puts the concentration of mercury in the vaccine vial at
50,000 ppb. To put this in perspective, liquid waste that exceeds 200 ppb
of mercury must be disposed of in a special hazardous waste landfill.
Drinking water cannot exceed 2 ppb mercury. "Small" would probably be the
last word to use when describing the amount of mercury in vaccines. Michael
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\"Jan Drew\"
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"Bryan Heit" <bjheit@NOSPAMucalgary.ca> wrote in message
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Great rebuttal Jan; simply repost what you wrote before without even
making an attempt to address the content. . .
Bryan
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Rich
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"Jan Drew" <jdrew1374@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:X%vtg.130384$dW3.79942@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
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"Bryan Heit" <bjheit@NOSPAMucalgary.ca> wrote in message
news:e95hcs$1ju$2@news.ucalgary.ca...
Jan Drew wrote:
"Bryan Heit" <bjheit@NOSPAMucalgary.ca> wrote in message
news:e933i3$sp$1@news.ucalgary.ca...
Table salt is 60.66276% chlorine, which is more toxic then mercury:
Bryan
No, that is a lie and a diversion often used by organized brainwashed
medicine believers.
Who are DISHONEST. Like YOU.
http://www.nsc.org/ehc/chemical/Mercury.htm
http://www.toxicteeth.org/rebuttal.cfm
Great rebuttal Jan; simply repost what you wrote before without even
making an attempt to address the content. . .
Bryan
The content is addressed in both websites.
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Your failure to write your own rebutal is indicative of your refusal to
really think about the issue and you lack of communication skills. Posting
links is not very convincing, Jan.
--
--Rich
Recommended websites:
http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
http://www.acahf.org.au
http://www.quackwatch.org/
http://www.skeptic.com/
http://www.csicop.org/ |
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\"Jan Drew\"
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"Rich" the troll wrote:
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"Jan Drew" <jdrew1374@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
news:X%vtg.130384$dW3.79942@newssvr21.news.prodigy.com...
"Bryan Heit" <bjheit@NOSPAMucalgary.ca> wrote in message
news:e95hcs$1ju$2@news.ucalgary.ca...
Jan Drew wrote:
"Bryan Heit" <bjheit@NOSPAMucalgary.ca> wrote in message
news:e933i3$sp$1@news.ucalgary.ca...
Table salt is 60.66276% chlorine, which is more toxic then mercury:
Bryan
No, that is a lie and a diversion often used by organized brainwashed
medicine believers.
Who are DISHONEST. Like YOU.
http://www.nsc.org/ehc/chemical/Mercury.htm
http://www.toxicteeth.org/rebuttal.cfm
Great rebuttal Jan; simply repost what you wrote before without even
making an attempt to address the content. . .
Bryan
The content is addressed in both websites.
Your failure to write your own rebutal is indicative of your refusal to
really think about the issue
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