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eugeneshapiroisapig
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 5:24 am    Post subject: Re: can Spinal Taps help diagnose Lyme? Reply with quote

also, btw, with UV blood irradiation, the theory is that it helps
activate and stimulate the immune system. Bb in its later stages is not
found much in the blood, it's only really in the blood in early
dissemination stages. later, it sequesters in deep tissues. what
happens with the sort of blood treatment to which you refer is not
direct killing of any bacteria, but rather {theoretically} an
alteration of immune cells circulating in the blood which supposedly
then go on to help clear or silence the infection {somehow}. I don't
mean to disparage your mother's experience...I have heard of this
therapy anecdotally working in other lyme patients...but not on a
massive scale.
john wrote:
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"the 3rd Man" <derdrittemann2003@yahoo.com> wrote in message

The POINT is...neither you nor KathLOON apparently give a DAMN about
anyone else besides yourselves.

You're not here to help others...but to moan and whine and b***h and
try to blame all your troubles on others.

You both have absolutely RUINED this board.

You're both pathetic, selfish immature JERKS.

Keep in mind...That this specific Usenet forum has been full of Loons for
years now. And its most likely because of the severe , confusing, mental
effects that long term Lyme has on the brain. Im not a patient, but my mom
was. And I must say... Lyme can turn you into a really , really, strange
individual..

Thankfully mom is much better now.. She went to Europe where they know how
to treat this illness properly (without meds) and got it out of her system
100%. And this was done 15 years ago and she has NEVER tested positive again
for lyme. She had a Dialysis type treatment done where they ran her blood
through this machine that would significantly heat up the temperature of her
blood and kill off all the bad stuff... and then the blood would be returned
to her body.. I do not know the specifics since it was done in Hungary and
the language and terms are different over there. But there is a cure out
there for this in Europeun countries... Our American Government over here
only knows how to treat illnesses with pills.. which helps the economy.

John
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john
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:25 pm    Post subject: Re: can Spinal Taps help diagnose Lyme? Reply with quote

It was a procedure that heated up the blood to a high temperature.. It had
nothing to do with Hydrogen pyroxide or ultra violet light.. It was done in
Hungary. They use different procedures there and it probably isnt even
published because they dont use this in the U.S. I wish I knew the exact
procedure name but I dont. This procedure was done only about 2 to 3
times and that was all that was needed.

And I visit these forums very infrequently.. Maybe twice a year. This is why
I said last 3 years. Its a horrible illness and I'd rather not even be
reminded of it. I just occasionally like to hear of new stuff.(like when i
heard that Lyme could be spread through the air in close quarters) , or
sometimes I just post stuff that may help.

Wish u guys luck... :::::closes the door quickly behind him:::::

John
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derdrittemann2003@yahoo.c
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:49 pm    Post subject: Re: can Spinal Taps help diagnose Lyme? Reply with quote

john wrote:
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It was a procedure that heated up the blood to a high temperature.. It had
nothing to do with Hydrogen pyroxide or ultra violet light.. It was done in
Hungary. They use different procedures there and it probably isnt even
published because they dont use this in the U.S. I wish I knew the exact
procedure name but I dont. This procedure was done only about 2 to 3
times and that was all that was needed.

Yes.

You don't seem to know what this even was or involved...but know that
they know better in "Hungary". That's helpful.

The HT in ICHT stands for "hytperthermia". If that's what your Mom had
done, she's lucky to be alive.

The guy that was promoting it was charged with aggravated voluntary
manslaughter by the Italians, and last I heard, he was under indictment
from the Feds in Florida for Securities fraud.
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And I visit these forums very infrequently.. Maybe twice a year. This is why
I said last 3 years. Its a horrible illness and I'd rather not even be
reminded of it. I just occasionally like to hear of new stuff.(like when i
heard that Lyme could be spread through the air in close quarters) , or
sometimes I just post stuff that may help.

Yes.

So by visiting twice a year, you know all about what the problems are
here.

You are just full of information, help and insight.

Thanks.
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derdrittemann2003@yahoo.c
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 3:59 pm    Post subject: Re: can Spinal Taps help diagnose Lyme? Reply with quote

trong wrote:
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hey, that particular passage...while I may have written it...has been
posted by me once, and by you now at least twice...a similar phenomenon
has been observed wrt the "infamous virgin mary passage".

if it's so disturbing and disgusting to you, why are you continuously
reposting it? I haven't written anything like that in a while. would
you like me to? is it your way of asking me to write for your
delectation nasty passages about genitals?


Why do you think that is "so disturbing and disgusting" to me?

You mean this? Apparently you haven't realized that it doesn't bother
me. I like to repost it so that people can see what you are...

Merlin wrote:
"...of course, her vagina was DISGUSTING. the christian religious
tradition
recognizes this fact by employing immaculate conception for it would be


unseemly for the son of god to be conceived amidst dribbling globs of
slimey love goo inside a stinking festering fecal-bacteria infested
barf bag of a hideous monstrous gonorrheal pus blob populated
unquestionably wooly super hairy nasty cunt"!


I think it is an excellent example of your insensitivity to
others...your extreme narcissism and enormously self-centered behavior.

Let me guess...you feel Mommy and Daddy were indifferent to you growing
up...unemotional and didn't pay the little darling the attention it
needed...

....so, in order to get attention...you "acted up". Tried to SHOCK them
with bad behavior and throwing tantrums.

Right?

And now we are just the substitutes for Mommy and Daddy.

Tell Fallon that he may want to experiment with just slapping the s**t
out of you. Five bucks says that will register dramatic improvement.
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eugeneshapiroisapig
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 4:56 pm    Post subject: Re: can Spinal Taps help diagnose Lyme? Reply with quote

I believe what I wrote about the virgin mary's vagina. I don't think
it's insensitive to others, I feel they are being socially
irresponsible by continuing to place profound meaning in doctored 2000
year old tales of cattle merchants, pimps, and snake tongued street
preachers. religious delusional disorder is the worst problem facing
the world today. we must destroy the old myths and replace them with
new ones which have greater utility and relevance in the post modern
era. Part of that process involves heaping ridicule on the currently
accepted myths, in the same fashion that one would heap ridicule on a
45 year old who still believed in the easter bunny.





the 3rd Man wrote:
Quote:
trong wrote:
hey, that particular passage...while I may have written it...has been
posted by me once, and by you now at least twice...a similar phenomenon
has been observed wrt the "infamous virgin mary passage".

if it's so disturbing and disgusting to you, why are you continuously
reposting it? I haven't written anything like that in a while. would
you like me to? is it your way of asking me to write for your
delectation nasty passages about genitals?


Why do you think that is "so disturbing and disgusting" to me?

You mean this? Apparently you haven't realized that it doesn't bother
me. I like to repost it so that people can see what you are...

Merlin wrote:
"...of course, her vagina was DISGUSTING. the christian religious
tradition
recognizes this fact by employing immaculate conception for it would be


unseemly for the son of god to be conceived amidst dribbling globs of
slimey love goo inside a stinking festering fecal-bacteria infested
barf bag of a hideous monstrous gonorrheal pus blob populated
unquestionably wooly super hairy nasty cunt"!


I think it is an excellent example of your insensitivity to
others...your extreme narcissism and enormously self-centered behavior.

Let me guess...you feel Mommy and Daddy were indifferent to you growing
up...unemotional and didn't pay the little darling the attention it
needed...

...so, in order to get attention...you "acted up". Tried to SHOCK them
with bad behavior and throwing tantrums.

Right?

And now we are just the substitutes for Mommy and Daddy.

Tell Fallon that he may want to experiment with just slapping the s**t
out of you. Five bucks says that will register dramatic improvement.
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derdrittemann2003@yahoo.c
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 7:00 pm    Post subject: Re: can Spinal Taps help diagnose Lyme? Reply with quote

trong wrote:

Quote:
I believe what I wrote about the virgin mary's vagina.

Fine. (Who gives a rat's ass?) It has nothing WHATEVER to do with Lyme
disease.

I don't think
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it's insensitive to others,

Bullshit.

Ever hear of Catholicism?

Yeah...keep going...you're just proving the point.

Point is...you really don't care. There were certainly other ways of
making your point instead of this graphic description.

Who do you think believes that, junior?...you were TRYING to "gross"
people out in a VERY immature manner...

....similar to the behavior of junior high school students.

LOOK at the thread entitled "Trong's Gretaest Hits"...and as you,
yourself, acknowledge, there are plenty of other instances...

....what's the point of that? WHAT is going on in your mind when you
post something like that?

Are you deliberately trying to destroy this board? Trying to drive
people who need help away?


I feel they are being socially
Quote:
irresponsible by continuing to place profound meaning in doctored 2000
year old tales of cattle merchants, pimps, and snake tongued street
preachers. religious delusional disorder is the worst problem facing
the world today. we must destroy the old myths and replace them with
new ones which have greater utility and relevance in the post modern
era. Part of that process involves heaping ridicule on the currently
accepted myths, in the same fashion that one would heap ridicule on a
45 year old who still believed in the easter bunny.

Why don't you go post your ideas on a message board that deals with
discussions concerning the nature of the Virgin Mary's vagina, then?

And for the rest of it...oh shut up. (BTW, do you understand the
difference between myth and parable)?

Quit trying to impress us.

You're a perverted, disgusting, foul-mouthed abusive clown.

And you can't reason your way out of a tic-tac-toe game. Look how
quickly you jumped to the wrong conclusion here with "John". You make
assumptions and then pile faulty conclusions on top of them.

You are a sqwaking parrot sitting on the shoulder of a complete and
utter LOON.

Only in this case, "polly" IS a "cracker".


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eugeneshapiroisapig
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PostPosted: Thu Jul 13, 2006 11:04 pm    Post subject: Re: can Spinal Taps help diagnose Lyme? Reply with quote

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Ever hear of Catholicism?

Catholicism is a severe mental illness, a delusional disorder

Quote:
Point is...you really don't care. There were certainly other ways of
making your point instead of this graphic description.

The utilization of a "graphic description" enables the reader to better
understand exactly why the vagina was demonized by the creators of the
christian myth


Quote:
Why don't you go post your ideas on a message board that deals with
discussions concerning the nature of the Virgin Mary's vagina, then?

Hey, YOU'RE the one who initiated the topic of the virgin mary; YOU'RE
the one who has continually reposted my writings on this issue; YOU'RE
the one who can't stop thinking about the virgin mary's vagina.


Quote:
And for the rest of it...oh shut up. (BTW, do you understand the
difference between myth and parable)?

that's just your method of rationalizing the insanity. most christians
BELIEVE that these things took place as written. and in any event,
there's not much difference between myth and parable, there's too much
overlap.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 2:03 am    Post subject: Re: can Spinal Taps help diagnose Lyme? Reply with quote

trong wrote:
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Ever hear of Catholicism?

Catholicism is a severe mental illness, a delusional disorder

Well, I am NOT one...but I think there are something like a billion
people who don't share that opinion. You seem to have litle respect for
them and their opinions. Why should any of us have any respect for you?

But at least you are being a little more honest, now.

You just don't care how what you say affects others.

I would assume most Catholics would find what you just said to be
highly offensive.

Even if you feel that way...you don't have to express that
opinion...and you certainly don't have to express it in the manner in
which you did.

Somehow, I don't think it is the Catholics who have a "delusional
disorder".
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Point is...you really don't care. There were certainly other ways of
making your point instead of this graphic description.

The utilization of a "graphic description" enables the reader to better
understand exactly why the vagina was demonized by the creators of the
christian myth

That isn't even accurate. And your PATHETIC rationalization of your
mysogynistic attack isn't even based on correct religious history.

The origin of the "virgin birth" ahd nothing whatever to do with your
bizarre and hateful characterization of female genitalia. (save it...I
really don't want to discuss it with a juvenile delinquent diddling
wanker like you).

You are a really fucked up POS.

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that's just your method of rationalizing the insanity. most christians
BELIEVE that these things took place as written. and in any event,
there's not much difference between myth and parable, there's too much
overlap.

You understand nothing.

A fool with a gaping fat filthy mouth and lots of opinions...an a*****le
of the lowest order.
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eugeneshapiroisapig
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 14, 2006 3:09 am    Post subject: Re: can Spinal Taps help diagnose Lyme? Reply with quote

3rd man wrote:

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A fool with a gaping fat filthy mouth and lots of opinions...an a*****le
of the lowest order.

gaping? fat? filthy? are you describing my mouth, or your wife's
genitals?
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