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Juhana Harju medicine forum Guru
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Posted: Wed Jul 12, 2006 6:01 am Post subject:
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TC wrote:
Quote: | Juhana Harju wrote:
Davide wrote:
: Hi
: I'd like to know what scientific studies say about phytic acid in food
: I know that it's "thought" that foods containing phytates may interfer
: with calcium, zin, iron absorption and certain groups (westonaprice
: foundation) have created an hype attacking all foods that contain
: phytates but what I saw on pubmed is
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: 1) theoretical third world epidemiological studies that theorize that
: a whole grain and legume diet may cause mineral deficiency
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: 2) studies on animals that have nothing to do with humans
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: 3) studies on humans using isolated phytic acid in high concentration
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: What I want to know is wether there's any amount of scientific
: evidence that a varied diet adequate in mineral intake containing two
: or more portions of legumes and/or whole grains can lower mineral the
: absorption of minerals in any relevant way or even cause mineral
: deficiencies
Take into account that whole grains have considerably higher mineral content
than refined grains. That is why you can in a sense afford the less
efficient absorption of minerals.
The effect of phytates is not only adverse. They also have a beneficial role
in prevention of diseases like cancer and cardiovascular diseases.
beneficial? where do you get your info from?
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Your posting included results of a simple Google search. I am certain
that you can do better.
http://www.cplbookshop.com/contents/C1403.htm
If that was not enough for you, go to Medline and search for phytates
and cancer, phytic acid and cancer, phytates and heart or phytic acid
and heart.
Quote: | I wouldn't be too concerned of phytates. If you want to reduce phytates it
can be done by soaking grains. In baking the sourdough process reduces
phytates very efficiently.
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TC medicine forum Guru
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 4:22 pm Post subject:
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Juhana Harju wrote:
Quote: | Davide wrote:
: Hi
: I'd like to know what scientific studies say about phytic acid in food
: I know that it's "thought" that foods containing phytates may interfer
: with calcium, zin, iron absorption and certain groups (westonaprice
: foundation) have created an hype attacking all foods that contain
: phytates but what I saw on pubmed is
:
: 1) theoretical third world epidemiological studies that theorize that
: a whole grain and legume diet may cause mineral deficiency
:
: 2) studies on animals that have nothing to do with humans
:
: 3) studies on humans using isolated phytic acid in high concentration
:
: What I want to know is wether there's any amount of scientific
: evidence that a varied diet adequate in mineral intake containing two
: or more portions of legumes and/or whole grains can lower mineral the
: absorption of minerals in any relevant way or even cause mineral
: deficiencies
Take into account that whole grains have considerably higher mineral content
than refined grains. That is why you can in a sense afford the less
efficient absorption of minerals.
The effect of phytates is not only adverse. They also have a beneficial role
in prevention of diseases like cancer and cardiovascular diseases.
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beneficial? where do you get your info from?
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2005-18,GGLD:en&q=phytates
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I wouldn't be too concerned of phytates. If you want to reduce phytates it
can be done by soaking grains. In baking the sourdough process reduces
phytates very efficiently.
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Mr-Natural-Health medicine forum Guru
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Posted: Tue Jul 11, 2006 10:09 am Post subject:
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Don Wiss wrote:
Quote: | On 8 Jul 2006 12:17:07 -0700, "Davide" <davideb_music@yahoo.it> wrote:
I'd like to know what scientific studies say about phytic acid in food
I know that it's "thought" that foods containing phytates may interfer
with calcium, zin, iron absorption and certain groups (westonaprice
foundation) have created an hype attacking all foods that contain
phytates but what I saw on pubmed is
And you believe PubMed!?
Here's a readable summary: http://paleodiet.com/phytic.txt
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The only thing that your group offers as proof are essays of wild
speculation masquerading as research. The only thing amazing about
your grabage is that their authors were able to find journals to print
their dribble.
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Juhana Harju medicine forum Guru
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Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 8:09 pm Post subject:
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Davide wrote:
: Hi
: I'd like to know what scientific studies say about phytic acid in food
: I know that it's "thought" that foods containing phytates may interfer
: with calcium, zin, iron absorption and certain groups (westonaprice
: foundation) have created an hype attacking all foods that contain
: phytates but what I saw on pubmed is
:
: 1) theoretical third world epidemiological studies that theorize that
: a whole grain and legume diet may cause mineral deficiency
:
: 2) studies on animals that have nothing to do with humans
:
: 3) studies on humans using isolated phytic acid in high concentration
:
: What I want to know is wether there's any amount of scientific
: evidence that a varied diet adequate in mineral intake containing two
: or more portions of legumes and/or whole grains can lower mineral the
: absorption of minerals in any relevant way or even cause mineral
: deficiencies
Take into account that whole grains have considerably higher mineral content
than refined grains. That is why you can in a sense afford the less
efficient absorption of minerals.
The effect of phytates is not only adverse. They also have a beneficial role
in prevention of diseases like cancer and cardiovascular diseases.
I wouldn't be too concerned of phytates. If you want to reduce phytates it
can be done by soaking grains. In baking the sourdough process reduces
phytates very efficiently.
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Mr-Natural-Health medicine forum Guru
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Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 7:44 pm Post subject:
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Davide wrote:
Quote: | What I want to know is wether there's any amount of scientific evidence
that a varied diet adequate in mineral intake containing two or more
portions of legumes and/or whole grains can lower mineral the
absorption of minerals in any relevant way or even cause mineral
deficiencies
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No! The Weston Price Foundation is just a bunch of Kooks. |
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Davide medicine forum beginner
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Posted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 7:17 pm Post subject:
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Hi
I'd like to know what scientific studies say about phytic acid in food
I know that it's "thought" that foods containing phytates may interfer
with calcium, zin, iron absorption and certain groups (westonaprice
foundation) have created an hype attacking all foods that contain
phytates but what I saw on pubmed is
1) theoretical third world epidemiological studies that theorize that a
whole grain and legume diet may cause mineral deficiency
2) studies on animals that have nothing to do with humans
3) studies on humans using isolated phytic acid in high concentration
What I want to know is wether there's any amount of scientific evidence
that a varied diet adequate in mineral intake containing two or more
portions of legumes and/or whole grains can lower mineral the
absorption of minerals in any relevant way or even cause mineral
deficiencies
Thanks
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