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PostPosted: Mon Jul 10, 2006 12:32 am    Post subject: Re: Cholesterol drugs may treat hepatitis C Reply with quote

"Sharon Hope" <shope@anet.net> wrote in
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A recently published medical journal article showed 100% of statin
patients
have muscle damage identifiable on muscle biopsy after only a few months.


Link, please?


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PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 10:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Cholesterol drugs may treat hepatitis C Reply with quote

Sharon Hope wrote:
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I haven't a clue whether statins are a good thing for you knowing nothing
about you or your medical history. However, for the average person with
known cardiovascular disease statins will decrease cardiovascular events
by about 30% and mortality by close to 20%.


Evidence from published journal articles? Absolute risk comparison is
nowhere near those numbers.

Those would be rather astounding absolute risk benefits, since they
would make the cardiovascular risk go negative in lots of people.

No, they are, of course, relative risk benefits. Since the absolute risk
benefit depends on the absolute risk, you can't actually give a single
number.

But, the absolute risk benefits for mortality in people with known
cardiovascular disease are on the order of 5 to 7 percent over five to
ten years. Lower than that if you don't have very bad CVD, higher than
that if you are at extremely high risk. The cardiovascular event risk
benefits are on the order of 10-15 percent.


Quote:
The people who spoke at the June 8th news conference on Pfizer's Lipitor
side effects are evidence that your comment is hopelessly out of touch with
reality.

They were there speaking because they have side effects or think they
do. What percentage of the people on Lipitor in the US spoke at that
news conference?

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A recently published medical journal article showed 100% of statin patients
have muscle damage identifiable on muscle biopsy after only a few months.

Please post the citation to this published article.

Quote:
Another recently published study showed all statin patients have measurable
cognitive impacts after 6 months.

That's twisting what was actually published. But even if true would not
change what I said above. The measured cognitive impacts were minor and
death turns out to have severe cognitive impacts in 100% of people.

Quote:
Another recently published study showed neuropathy 26 times more likely in
statin patients.

The published evidence on statins and neuropathy conflicts.

Again, though, I in no way think statins are without harms. I think
lipid lowering drugs are being overused in the US in low risk patients.
But that doesn't mean that they aren't amazing drugs for the people who
really need them. That you cannot see greys suggests more of a problem
with how you are looking at statins than with the statins themselves.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 9:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Cholesterol drugs may treat hepatitis C Reply with quote

"David Rind" <drind@caregroup.harvard.edu> wrote in message
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Quote:
William Wagner wrote:

A> > Ok for us folks where statins cause damage. I'd like to know why
lowering my total is a good thing ?

I haven't a clue whether statins are a good thing for you knowing nothing
about you or your medical history. However, for the average person with
known cardiovascular disease statins will decrease cardiovascular events
by about 30% and mortality by close to 20%.

Evidence from published journal articles? Absolute risk comparison is
nowhere near those numbers.


Quote:
Statins don't cause serious enough side effects in most patients to
outweigh those sorts of benefits.

The people who spoke at the June 8th news conference on Pfizer's Lipitor
side effects are evidence that your comment is hopelessly out of touch with
reality. Their disabilities included memory loss, cognitive damage, muscle
weakness (to the extent that one man is unable to lift his 1 year old child,
another no longer able to reliably hold the controls through landing a
commercial airplane), neuropathy, and several suicide attempts - one
tragically successful by a 16 year old boy who was prescribed Lipitor for
prevention.

These are severe disabilities that preclude the patient from performing
work, normal recreation, and interaction with family. One resulted in
death, another in near death.

A recently published medical journal article showed 100% of statin patients
have muscle damage identifiable on muscle biopsy after only a few months.

Another recently published study showed all statin patients have measurable
cognitive impacts after 6 months.

Another recently published study showed neuropathy 26 times more likely in
statin patients.



Quote:



B> > If I go to
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/heart-disease-risk/HB00047

there is no mention of HDL and there is no longevity benefit. LDL size
too expensive for me I'm calculated.

When I go there, I see a cardiac risk calculator. I'm not sure what that
has to do with the sentence you wrote above or what your sentence means.

For what it's worth, this risk calculator does not apply to people with
known cardiovascular disease (i.e. the people I was saying get clear
benefits from statins).



C> > What I am is suggesting that cholesterol is mute issue and the
"Cure"
is flawed in that it causes harm. CoQ-10 issues.

Okay, since C is a "coherent" comment and not a question, what do you
think the word "mute" means? Also, when has anyone ever suggested that
statins are a "cure"? They are a drug taken chronically to treat a chronic
condition, and like all drugs they have benefits and harms. In most
patients with cardiovascular disease, the benefits far outweigh the harms.


Harvard my ass.

Coherent... please do not try to insult me.

Gee, you think that first sentence from you might be an insult? Do you
think my pointing out the incoherence of your post is harsher than that,
or do you figure on Usenet you get to make nasty comments but no one
should respond?

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 12:29 am    Post subject: Re: Cholesterol drugs may treat hepatitis C Reply with quote

William Wagner wrote:

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Hope Yale beats Harvard if that is coherent..

Not only coherent, you have my full support in that sentiment.

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PostPosted: Sun Jul 09, 2006 12:28 am    Post subject: Re: Cholesterol drugs may treat hepatitis C Reply with quote

William Wagner wrote:
Quote:
Harvard is a moniker to give validity to you posts.

It's my email address. Unlike lots of people who post here, I actually
use my real live email address when I post. The validity of my posts or
lack thereof has nothing to do with my email address.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 9:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Cholesterol drugs may treat hepatitis C Reply with quote

William Wagner <not-to-here-williamwag@gmail.com> wrote in news:not-to-
here-williamwag-C5B357.16342808072006@sn-indi.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net:

Quote:
In article <e8p3e6$oud$1@reader2.panix.com>,
David Rind <drind@caregroup.harvard.edu> wrote:



B> > If I go to
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/heart-disease-risk/HB00047

there is no mention of HDL and there is no longevity benefit. LDL
size
too expensive for me I'm calculated.

When I go there, I see a cardiac risk calculator. I'm not sure what
that
has to do with the sentence you wrote above or what your sentence
means.

For what it's worth, this risk calculator does not apply to people
with
known cardiovascular disease (i.e. the people I was saying get clear
benefits from statins).

see http://www.ti.ubc.ca/pages/letter.html 48 & 49



C> > What I am is suggesting that cholesterol is mute issue and
the
"Cure"

is flawed in that it causes harm. CoQ-10 issues.

Okay, since C is a "coherent" comment and not a question, what do you
think the word "mute" means? Also, when has anyone ever suggested that
statins are a "cure"? They are a drug taken chronically to treat a
chronic condition, and like all drugs they have benefits and harms. In
most patients with cardiovascular disease, the benefits far outweigh
the
harms.


Mute means it should be common knowledge everywhere but is not
available readably. Many folks never heard of CoQ-10 yet no TV
Crestor ad speaks of it. That is MUTE.

Harvard my ass.

Coherent... please do not try to insult me.

Gee, you think that first sentence from you might be an insult? Do you
think my pointing out the incoherence of your post is harsher than
that,
or do you figure on Usenet you get to make nasty comments but no one
should respond?

Harvard is not you but coherent was aimed at me. Harvard is a
moniker
to give validity to you posts. Just as Jim with the MIT address.
Post as folks and I'm sure you will be welcomed or scorned by your
words.
Hide like L and be treated as such.


Bill


Folks my ass.

L.
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 8:48 pm    Post subject: Re: Cholesterol drugs may treat hepatitis C Reply with quote

In article <e8p3e6$oud$1@reader2.panix.com>,
David Rind <drind@caregroup.harvard.edu> wrote:

Quote:
William Wagner wrote:

A> > Ok for us folks where statins cause damage. I'd like to know why

lowering my total is a good thing ?

I haven't a clue whether statins are a good thing for you knowing
nothing about you or your medical history. However, for the average
person with known cardiovascular disease statins will decrease
cardiovascular events by about 30% and mortality by close to 20%.
Statins don't cause serious enough side effects in most patients to
outweigh those sorts of benefits.



B> > If I go to
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/heart-disease-risk/HB00047

there is no mention of HDL and there is no longevity benefit. LDL size
too expensive for me I'm calculated.

When I go there, I see a cardiac risk calculator. I'm not sure what that
has to do with the sentence you wrote above or what your sentence means.

For what it's worth, this risk calculator does not apply to people with
known cardiovascular disease (i.e. the people I was saying get clear
benefits from statins).



C> > What I am is suggesting that cholesterol is mute issue and the
"Cure"

is flawed in that it causes harm. CoQ-10 issues.

Okay, since C is a "coherent" comment and not a question, what do you
think the word "mute" means? Also, when has anyone ever suggested that
statins are a "cure"? They are a drug taken chronically to treat a
chronic condition, and like all drugs they have benefits and harms. In
most patients with cardiovascular disease, the benefits far outweigh the
harms.


Harvard my ass.

Coherent... please do not try to insult me.

Gee, you think that first sentence from you might be an insult? Do you
think my pointing out the incoherence of your post is harsher than that,
or do you figure on Usenet you get to make nasty comments but no one
should respond?

I'm sorry !

I always try to write like I'm addressing my best friend. My best
friends and I have exchanged curse words but this medium gives me many
opportunities for mistakes and a few glimpses of truth or retraction.
Still a pain in the arse.

Bill

Hope Yale beats Harvard if that is coherent..

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 8:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Cholesterol drugs may treat hepatitis C Reply with quote

In article <e8p3e6$oud$1@reader2.panix.com>,
David Rind <drind@caregroup.harvard.edu> wrote:


Quote:

B> > If I go to
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/heart-disease-risk/HB00047

there is no mention of HDL and there is no longevity benefit. LDL size
too expensive for me I'm calculated.

When I go there, I see a cardiac risk calculator. I'm not sure what that
has to do with the sentence you wrote above or what your sentence means.

For what it's worth, this risk calculator does not apply to people with
known cardiovascular disease (i.e. the people I was saying get clear
benefits from statins).

see http://www.ti.ubc.ca/pages/letter.html 48 & 49
Quote:



C> > What I am is suggesting that cholesterol is mute issue and the
"Cure"

is flawed in that it causes harm. CoQ-10 issues.

Okay, since C is a "coherent" comment and not a question, what do you
think the word "mute" means? Also, when has anyone ever suggested that
statins are a "cure"? They are a drug taken chronically to treat a
chronic condition, and like all drugs they have benefits and harms. In
most patients with cardiovascular disease, the benefits far outweigh the
harms.


Mute means it should be common knowledge everywhere but is not
available readably. Many folks never heard of CoQ-10 yet no TV
Crestor ad speaks of it. That is MUTE.
Quote:

Harvard my ass.

Coherent... please do not try to insult me.

Gee, you think that first sentence from you might be an insult? Do you
think my pointing out the incoherence of your post is harsher than that,
or do you figure on Usenet you get to make nasty comments but no one
should respond?

Harvard is not you but coherent was aimed at me. Harvard is a moniker
to give validity to you posts. Just as Jim with the MIT address.
Post as folks and I'm sure you will be welcomed or scorned by your words.
Hide like L and be treated as such.


Bill

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 8:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Cholesterol drugs may treat hepatitis C Reply with quote

Susan <nevermind@nomail.com> wrote in news:4ha3evF1qb54cU2@individual.net:

Quote:
x-no-archive: yes

listener wrote:

I don't think that any of the (pro-statin) articles I post actually tout
statins as a "cure" for anything - just that they *may* be useful in
treatment. Then again, they may not. I certainly don't view them as a
cure. That's your word.

L.

You're a transparent shill.

I'm not interested til they prove it'll detail my car while I sleep.

Susan

And you are...ah....just plain old transparent? Since I have no connection
whatsoever to doctors or researchers or phama (not even related to any) I'm
not sure what or who I'm a shill for? That notion is only in your own mind.

Yeh, I know - you've used that cute line before, "detail my
car"..ha...ha..you made a funny!

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 8:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Cholesterol drugs may treat hepatitis C Reply with quote

William Wagner <not-to-here-williamwag@gmail.com> wrote in news:not-to-
here-williamwag-28C6BF.12501008072006@sn-indi.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net:

Quote:
May is a wonderful word. May may be transposed to could . I think it
means ambiguity.


[snip silly english lesson]


Hey, you wanna talk about statins as "cures" that's your perogative.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 8:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Cholesterol drugs may treat hepatitis C Reply with quote

William Wagner wrote:

Quote:
A> > Ok for us folks where statins cause damage. I'd like to know why

lowering my total is a good thing ?

I haven't a clue whether statins are a good thing for you knowing
nothing about you or your medical history. However, for the average
person with known cardiovascular disease statins will decrease
cardiovascular events by about 30% and mortality by close to 20%.
Statins don't cause serious enough side effects in most patients to
outweigh those sorts of benefits.

Quote:


B> > If I go to
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/heart-disease-risk/HB00047

there is no mention of HDL and there is no longevity benefit. LDL size
too expensive for me I'm calculated.

When I go there, I see a cardiac risk calculator. I'm not sure what that
has to do with the sentence you wrote above or what your sentence means.

For what it's worth, this risk calculator does not apply to people with
known cardiovascular disease (i.e. the people I was saying get clear
benefits from statins).

Quote:


C> > What I am is suggesting that cholesterol is mute issue and the
"Cure"

is flawed in that it causes harm. CoQ-10 issues.

Okay, since C is a "coherent" comment and not a question, what do you
think the word "mute" means? Also, when has anyone ever suggested that
statins are a "cure"? They are a drug taken chronically to treat a
chronic condition, and like all drugs they have benefits and harms. In
most patients with cardiovascular disease, the benefits far outweigh the
harms.

Quote:

Harvard my ass.

Coherent... please do not try to insult me.

Gee, you think that first sentence from you might be an insult? Do you
think my pointing out the incoherence of your post is harsher than that,
or do you figure on Usenet you get to make nasty comments but no one
should respond?

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 7:17 pm    Post subject: Re: Cholesterol drugs may treat hepatitis C Reply with quote

In article <e8ov7k$lh6$1@reader2.panix.com>,
David Rind <drind@caregroup.harvard.edu> wrote:

Quote:
William Wagner wrote:
In article <e8oag6$9oi$1@reader2.panix.com>,
David Rind <drind@caregroup.harvard.edu> wrote:



Unlike the impression many readers of smc might get, statins are
spectacular drugs that have been proven in randomized trials to have
important effects in reducing mortality and cardiovascular events in
people with cardiovascular disease.


A> > Ok for us folks where statins cause damage. I'd like to know why
lowering my total is a good thing ?

B> > If I go to

http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/heart-disease-risk/HB00047
Quote:
there is no mention of HDL and there is no longevity benefit. LDL size
too expensive for me I'm calculated.

C> > What I am is suggesting that cholesterol is mute issue and the

"Cure"
Quote:
is flawed in that it causes harm. CoQ-10 issues.

Harvard my ass.

Bill

Thank you for that coherent post. If there's an actual comment or
question there, you might try again.

A & B are are questions.
C is a statement.

Simple enough?

Coherent... please do not try to insult me.

Bill

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 6:57 pm    Post subject: Re: Cholesterol drugs may treat hepatitis C Reply with quote

William Wagner wrote:
Quote:
In article <e8oag6$9oi$1@reader2.panix.com>,
David Rind <drind@caregroup.harvard.edu> wrote:



Unlike the impression many readers of smc might get, statins are
spectacular drugs that have been proven in randomized trials to have
important effects in reducing mortality and cardiovascular events in
people with cardiovascular disease.


Ok for us folks where statins cause damage. I'd like to know why
lowering my total is a good thing ?

If I go to http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/heart-disease-risk/HB00047
there is no mention of HDL and there is no longevity benefit. LDL size
too expensive for me I'm calculated.

What I am is suggesting that cholesterol is mute issue and the "Cure"
is flawed in that it causes harm. CoQ-10 issues.

Harvard my ass.

Bill

Thank you for that coherent post. If there's an actual comment or
question there, you might try again.

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 6:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Cholesterol drugs may treat hepatitis C Reply with quote

In article <e8oag6$9oi$1@reader2.panix.com>,
David Rind <drind@caregroup.harvard.edu> wrote:


Quote:
Unlike the impression many readers of smc might get, statins are
spectacular drugs that have been proven in randomized trials to have
important effects in reducing mortality and cardiovascular events in
people with cardiovascular disease.

Ok for us folks where statins cause damage. I'd like to know why
lowering my total is a good thing ?

If I go to http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/heart-disease-risk/HB00047
there is no mention of HDL and there is no longevity benefit. LDL size
too expensive for me I'm calculated.

What I am is suggesting that cholesterol is mute issue and the "Cure"
is flawed in that it causes harm. CoQ-10 issues.

Harvard my ass.

Bill

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PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 4:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Cholesterol drugs may treat hepatitis C Reply with quote

In article <Xns97FA39876397some1outthere@198.186.190.224>,
listener <listener@nospam.net> wrote:

Quote:
William Wagner <not-to-here-williamwag@gmail.com> wrote in news:not-to-
here-williamwag-2329B3.19093607072006@sn-indi.vsrv-sjc.supernews.net:

In article <Xns97F9BDD0D915Fsome1outthere@198.186.190.224>,
listener <listener@nospam.net> wrote:

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Cholesterol drugs called statins may help treat
hepatitis C infections, Japanese researchers reported on Friday.

Tests in lab dishes suggest that some statin drugs may help stop the
hepatitis C virus from replicating, they wrote in the journal
Hepatology,
published by the American Association for the Study of Liver Diseases.

An estimated 170 million people worldwide are infected with the
hepatitis
C virus. The standard treatment is a combination therapy of interferon
and ribavirin but it only helps about 55 percent of patients.

The rest risk progression to cirrhosis and liver cancer.

Masanori Ikeda of Okayama University in Japan and colleagues tested
several statin drugs against the virus in lab dishes.

All the drugs except pravastatin interfered with the virus to some
degree. Fluvastatin, sold by Novartis under the name Lescol, had the
strongest effect, they reported.

It may be that certain proteins are required for the hepatitis C virus
to
replicate and that some statins block the action of these proteins,
the
researchers said.

They tested the statins along with interferon, and found each worked
even
better when combined with the second drug.

"We clearly demonstrated that co-treatment of interferon and
fluvastatin
was an overwhelmingly effective treatment," the researchers wrote.

Statins -- which include Pfizer Inc.'s $10 billion-a-year
Lipitor,
Bristol-Myers Squibb Co.'s Pravachol and Merck and Co. Inc.'s Zocor --
are the world's best-selling drugs, taken by millions to reduce the
risk
of heart attack.

But they appear to affect many biological processes. An expert
proposed
last month that they may affect influenza viruses, including bird flu,
and other research has shown they reduce the risk of cataracts.

Generic statins are available in many countries and have become
increasingly inexpensive.

###


Must be more of that "pharma-whore researcher worldwide conspiracy"
stuff.

That said, Hep C is a escalating epidemic and any breakthroughs in
treatment are sorely needed (although it's a long way from a lab dish
to
a human...).

L.

Yet another side effect. Cures every thing except reduced Co-Enzyme
Q10.

Bill


I don't think that any of the (pro-statin) articles I post actually tout
statins as a "cure" for anything - just that they *may* be useful in
treatment. Then again, they may not. I certainly don't view them as a
cure. That's your word.

L.

May is a wonderful word. May may be transposed to could . I think it
means ambiguity.


may 1 |m?| |me?| |me?|
modal verb ( 3rd sing. present may |me?|; past might |m?t| |ma?t| |m??t|)
1 expressing possibility : that may be true | he may well win.
€ used when admitting that something is so before making another, more
important point : they may have been old-fashioned, but they were
excellent teachers.
2 expressing permission : you may use a sling if you wish | may I ask a
few questions?
3 expressing a wish or hope : may she rest in peace.
PHRASES
be that as it may despite that; nevertheless.
may as well another way of saying might as well (see might 1 ).
ORIGIN Old English mæg, of Germanic origin, from a base meaning Œhave
power¹ ; related to Dutch mogen and German mögen, also to main 1 and
might 2 .

Ambiguity |?ambi?gyo?-it?| |?ømb??gj?w?di| |amb??gju??ti|
noun ( pl. -ties)
uncertainty or inexactness of meaning in language : we can detect no
ambiguity in this section of the Act | ambiguities in such questions are
potentially very dangerous.
€ a lack of decisiveness or commitment resulting from a failure to make
a choice between alternatives : the film is fraught with moral ambiguity.
ORIGIN late Middle English : from Old French ambiguite or Latin
ambiguitas, from ambiguus Œdoubtful¹ (see ambiguous ).



Thesaurus

ambiguity
noun
the ambiguity of the rule made it impossible to follow vagueness,
obscurity, abstruseness, doubtfulness, uncertainty; formal dubiety;
ambivalence, equivocation, double meaning.

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