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liaM
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 12:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Chest pains and weight loss Reply with quote

Dell wrote:
Quote:
Hi,

I 'm new to this and don't know if this is the right place to be but, I'm
quite worried about my mother in law.
She has had several chest x-rays and checks and will never go back to the
doctors for the results. They have requested she comes back many times and
she ignores the requests.
She is about 50 a heavy smoker and drinker and has very bad chest pains. She
complains of shortness of breath and of a cronic stabbing pain in her chest.
Since i have known her (about 4 years) she has drastically lost weight from
about a size 10 to a size 6. this has been in the last 2 years about. She
says there is nothing wrong with her but then in the next breath says she
can't handle the pain any more.
She has recently had pnemonia with a chest infection which hasn't helped
anything. she still smokes and drinks and eats very little if at all.
She can get very irratated and aggressive vocally over the smallest things
and it seems to be getting more frequent.
She won't go to the doctors or the hospital any more, she says she's had
enough, she says she doesn't care any more. She has 5 children and 2 of them
are not even in there teens yet (6 and 12)
she phisically looks like she's wasting away.
Please could you give me some advise as to what to do and how to help her.
it's hurting everyone in the family to see her like this.

Thank You so much.


medecine can do very little for her.. she needs some loving care.
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James
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:18 pm    Post subject: Re: Chest pains and weight loss Reply with quote

Dell wrote:

Quote:
Hi,

I 'm new to this and don't know if this is the right place to be but, I'm
quite worried about my mother in law.
She has had several chest x-rays and checks and will never go back to the
doctors for the results. They have requested she comes back many times and
she ignores the requests.
She is about 50 a heavy smoker and drinker and has very bad chest pains. She
complains of shortness of breath and of a cronic stabbing pain in her chest.
Since i have known her (about 4 years) she has drastically lost weight from
about a size 10 to a size 6. this has been in the last 2 years about. She
says there is nothing wrong with her but then in the next breath says she
can't handle the pain any more.
She has recently had pnemonia with a chest infection which hasn't helped
anything. she still smokes and drinks and eats very little if at all.
She can get very irratated and aggressive vocally over the smallest things
and it seems to be getting more frequent.
She won't go to the doctors or the hospital any more, she says she's had
enough, she says she doesn't care any more. She has 5 children and 2 of them
are not even in there teens yet (6 and 12)
she phisically looks like she's wasting away.
Please could you give me some advise as to what to do and how to help her.
it's hurting everyone in the family to see her like this.

Thank You so much.

Sounds like classic alcoholism is the main problem. Get her in a dry
out clinic for six or eight weeks for starters. Short of doing that
she will likely not last real long. When alcoholics stop eating the
liver damage comes fast and severe. The alcoholism is likely the
problem behind the volitile temper. Any attempt at a home cure is not
likely to work for any length of time at all. She will deny she has a
drinking problem I am sure. They all do.
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 2:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Chest pains and weight loss Reply with quote

Dell wrote:
Quote:
Hi,

I 'm new to this and don't know if this is the right place to be but, I'm
quite worried about my mother in law.
She has had several chest x-rays and checks and will never go back to the
doctors for the results. They have requested she comes back many times and
she ignores the requests.
She is about 50 a heavy smoker and drinker and has very bad chest pains. She
complains of shortness of breath and of a cronic stabbing pain in her chest.
Since i have known her (about 4 years) she has drastically lost weight from
about a size 10 to a size 6. this has been in the last 2 years about. She
says there is nothing wrong with her but then in the next breath says she
can't handle the pain any more.
She has recently had pnemonia with a chest infection which hasn't helped
anything. she still smokes and drinks and eats very little if at all.
She can get very irratated and aggressive vocally over the smallest things
and it seems to be getting more frequent.
She won't go to the doctors or the hospital any more, she says she's had
enough, she says she doesn't care any more. She has 5 children and 2 of them
are not even in there teens yet (6 and 12)
she phisically looks like she's wasting away.
Please could you give me some advise as to what to do and how to help her.
it's hurting everyone in the family to see her like this.

Suggest that you have her seek out a clinical psychologist for
counseling. Many of these folks in private practice will typically
will have cozy offices in converted homes that are away from the usual
medical settings of hospitals and medical office buildings.

Meanwhile, would suggest you and others pray on her behalf. Prayer to
GOD the Father in Jesus' name works.

Quote:
Thank You so much.

You are welcome. All thanks and praises belong to the LORD, Whom I
love with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheLife
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Al
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Joined: 08 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 5:57 pm    Post subject: Nutty Chung Comments Reply with quote

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

Quote:

Meanwhile, would suggest you and others pray on her behalf. Prayer to
GOD the Father in Jesus' name works.

BULL s**t. Prayer has been proven to be of NO benefit (previous recent
studies are cited in this newsgroup)and, in some cases, can worsen a
situation. Get her to a doctor!
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The Lord
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PostPosted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 9:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Chest pains and weight loss Reply with quote

Andrew B. Chung wrote:
Quote:
Suggest that you have her seek out a clinical psychologist for
counseling.

You try it first, and *then* advise her what she should do.
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Dell
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Joined: 04 Jul 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 10:54 am    Post subject: Re: Chest pains and weight loss Reply with quote

Hi Andrew,

Thank you for your support. I'm not a religious person as such but i don't
think there has been another time in my life that i have started to believe
than now.
I will try all suggestions like some of the other kind people have offered.

thank you all very very much

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Quote:
Hi,

[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
Please could you give me some advise as to what to do and how to help her.
it's hurting everyone in the family to see her like this.

Suggest that you have her seek out a clinical psychologist for
counseling. Many of these folks in private practice will typically
will have cozy offices in converted homes that are away from the usual
medical settings of hospitals and medical office buildings.

Meanwhile, would suggest you and others pray on her behalf. Prayer to
GOD the Father in Jesus' name works.

Thank You so much.

You are welcome. All thanks and praises belong to the LORD, Whom I
love with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA.
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheLife

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http://www.medkb.com/Uwe/Forums.aspx/cardiology/200607/1
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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Joined: 25 Mar 2005
Posts: 8540

PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 11:50 am    Post subject: Re: Chest pains and weight loss Reply with quote

Dell via MedKB.com wrote:
Quote:
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Hi,

[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
Please could you give me some advise as to what to do and how to help her.
it's hurting everyone in the family to see her like this.

Suggest that you have her seek out a clinical psychologist for
counseling. Many of these folks in private practice will typically
will have cozy offices in converted homes that are away from the usual
medical settings of hospitals and medical office buildings.

Meanwhile, would suggest you and others pray on her behalf. Prayer to
GOD the Father in Jesus' name works.

Thank You so much.

You are welcome. All thanks and praises belong to the LORD, Whom I
love with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength.

Hi Andrew,

Thank you for your support. I'm not a religious person as such but i don't
think there has been another time in my life that i have started to believe
than now.
I will try all suggestions like some of the other kind people have offered.

thank you all very very much

You are welcome.

Would redirect all thanks and praises heavenward to GOD, from Whom all
blessings flow. HE **can** change all hearts.

Still praying for you, dear Dell.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheLife
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Jason
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PostPosted: Wed Jul 05, 2006 1:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Chest pains and weight loss Reply with quote

In article <1152100256.412088.137000@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote:

Dell via MedKB.com wrote:
Quote:
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Hi,

[quoted text clipped - 19 lines]
Please could you give me some advise as to what to do and how to help her.
it's hurting everyone in the family to see her like this.

Suggest that you have her seek out a clinical psychologist for
counseling. Many of these folks in private practice will typically
will have cozy offices in converted homes that are away from the usual
medical settings of hospitals and medical office buildings.

Meanwhile, would suggest you and others pray on her behalf. Prayer to
GOD the Father in Jesus' name works.

Thank You so much.

You are welcome. All thanks and praises belong to the LORD, Whom I
love with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength.

Hi Andrew,

Thank you for your support. I'm not a religious person as such but i don't
think there has been another time in my life that i have started to believe
than now.
I will try all suggestions like some of the other kind people have offered.

thank you all very very much

You are welcome.

Would redirect all thanks and praises heavenward to GOD, from Whom all
blessings flow. HE **can** change all hearts.

Still praying for you, dear Dell.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheLife

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Andrew,
The man mentioned in 1 Kings 19:2 believed that he was alone.
You may feel the same way at the end of some hard days.
However, remember 1 Kings 19:18. You are NOT alone. Our
prayers are with you. Thanks for helping people.
Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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Posts: 8540

PostPosted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 12:02 am    Post subject: Re: Chest pains and weight loss Reply with quote

Jason Johnson wrote:
Quote:
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Andrew,
The man mentioned in 1 Kings 19:2 believed that he was alone.
You may feel the same way at the end of some hard days.
However, remember 1 Kings 19:18. You are NOT alone. Our
prayers are with you. Thanks for helping people.
Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Many thanks and praises to GOD for your kind heart.

Your prayers are working... I am hungrier than ever :-)

"... GOD humbled you, making you hungry... " (Deuteronomy 8:3)

Still fasting day 23 of 40 (carried my daughter on my shoulders for
many miles yesterday to see the famous Lenox Square fireworks in
Atlanta yesterday which was almost a rainout... GOD's lightning bolts
were more spectacular than the fireworks Smile. Our combined weight was
what I weighed more than 3 weeks ago and with her on my shoulders, we
outwalked the rest of my group even up hills.

It is because of the hunger and the strength that I **know** I am not
alone but that the LORD's hand is on me. The hunger drives me giving
me strength to perform the meaningful work that HE had planned for me
to do beforehand (Proverbs 16:26).

Again, all praise and glory to GOD, Whom I love with all my heart,
soul, mind, and strength.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheLife
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The Lord
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 5:59 am    Post subject: Re: Chest pains and weight loss Reply with quote

Andrew B. Chung wrote:
Quote:
Still fasting day 23 of 40 (carried my daughter on my shoulders for
many miles yesterday to see the famous Lenox Square fireworks in
Atlanta yesterday which was almost a rainout... GOD's lightning bolts
were more spectacular than the fireworks Smile.

What a load of horse s**t! The hallucinations have taken over,
apparently.

Your daughter Caty, Andy, is fourteen and lives thousands of miles away
from you, as was her mother's wont - to get as far away from your
twisted ass as possible. You couldn't carry her on your shoulders for
five yards, let alone many miles.

Prove me wrong, a*****le. Why don't you stop lying, for once?
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Vic Sagerquist
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 6:44 am    Post subject: Re: Chest pains and weight loss Reply with quote

Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet The Lord, pt. II
(chungismybeyotch@yahoo.com) made the light shine upon us with this:

<piggybacking>

Quote:
Andrew B. Chung wrote:
Still fasting day 23 of 40

Go Andrew, one more day!
Go Andrew, one more day!
Go Andrew, one more day!
Go Andrew, one more day!
Go Andrew, one more day!
Go Andrew, one more day!
Go Andrew, one more day!


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me, or there would be many less of YOUR kind.
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milo47@myvoisco.com
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Chest pains and weight loss Reply with quote

"Fasting is not alms, dear brother."

Correct, but other scripture speaks as well of public boasting about
fasting and other acts of Pharisees.
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www.pulpitfire.org
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 12:23 pm    Post subject: Re: Chest pains and weight loss Reply with quote

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

Quote:
Still fasting day 23 of 40 (carried my daughter on my shoulders for
many miles yesterday ...we
outwalked the rest of my group even up hills.

Mt 6:3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy
right hand doeth:
Mt 6:4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in
secret himself shall reward thee openly.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 1:09 pm    Post subject: Re: Chest pains and weight loss Reply with quote

Pulpitfire wrote:
Quote:
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

Still fasting day 23 of 40.



I guess Andrew Bee Chung read the article I posted a while back and
decided to try it. If he truly is following a fast, he won't be here
much longer to annoy us. Bye-bye


http://news.scotsman.com/uk.cfm?id=694092006
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nospam7@heartmdphd.com
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 07, 2006 1:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Chest pains and weight loss Reply with quote

Pulpitfire wrote:
Quote:
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

Still fasting day 23 of 40 (carried my daughter on my shoulders for
many miles yesterday ...we
outwalked the rest of my group even up hills.

Mt 6:3 But when thou doest alms, let not thy left hand know what thy
right hand doeth:
Mt 6:4 That thine alms may be in secret: and thy Father which seeth in
secret himself shall reward thee openly.

Fasting is not alms, dear brother.

Source: http://www.m-w.com

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheLife
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