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stryped@hotmail.com
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 6:28 pm    Post subject: B 12 shot? I have lack of energy whole life Reply with quote

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I would like to have more energy. I am male 34. I have had numberous
blood tests and everything tests normal. I exercise and eat right.

I have heard b-12 shots can give you energy. Is this true? Can taking
the vitamin supplement do the same thing?

Thanks for any input!
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 7:23 pm    Post subject: Re: B 12 shot? I have lack of energy whole life Reply with quote

stryped wrote:
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I would like to have more energy. I am male 34. I have had numberous
blood tests and everything tests normal. I exercise and eat right.

Are you falling asleep at work? Are you getting enough sleep at night?
Sleep apnea causes problems.

Being overweight will cut down on your energy.

Tell us what you eat during the day.

Quote:
I have heard b-12 shots can give you energy. Is this true? Can taking
the vitamin supplement do the same thing?

Caffeine or some other drugs can give you more "energy". The so-called
b-12 shots usually had other substances in it.

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Ron
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 7:43 pm    Post subject: Re: B 12 shot? I have lack of energy whole life Reply with quote

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It does not matter what I eat. I am still the same. I try to eat a high
protein low carb during the day and it helps a little.
Ron Peterson wrote:
Quote:
stryped wrote:
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I would like to have more energy. I am male 34. I have had numberous
blood tests and everything tests normal. I exercise and eat right.

Are you falling asleep at work? Are you getting enough sleep at night?
Sleep apnea causes problems.

Being overweight will cut down on your energy.

Tell us what you eat during the day.

I have heard b-12 shots can give you energy. Is this true? Can taking
the vitamin supplement do the same thing?

Caffeine or some other drugs can give you more "energy". The so-called
b-12 shots usually had other substances in it.

--
Ron
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Ron Peterson
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 8:05 pm    Post subject: Re: B 12 shot? I have lack of energy whole life Reply with quote

stryped wrote:
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Why are you putting no archive on?

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It does not matter what I eat. I am still the same. I try to eat a high
protein low carb during the day and it helps a little.

There are other nutrients besides carbs and protein. If you're not
overweight, complex carbs might help.

How much alcohol do you consume?

Do you smoke?

Are you getting plenty of fiber?

Are you getting calcium?

Are you eating vegetables which contain a variety of nutrients?

Are you getting omega-3 fatty acids?

Are you taking vitamin supplements such vitamin C, vitamin D, and the B
vitamins?

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Ron
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stryped@hotmail.com
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 12:33 pm    Post subject: Re: B 12 shot? I have lack of energy whole life Reply with quote

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I am 6 feet around 180. I lightly lift weights for 20- 30 minutes in
the morning 5 days a week. I run 2.6 miles in about 20-22 minutes 3-4
days a week.

I might consume one drink every other day.
I take vitamin c tablets.
I take a multivitamin when I can remember.
I dont smoke.
I take a small amount of androgel for low normal testosterone.
For breakfast I eat a diet breakfast bar, a bannana, and a diet Mt Dew.

For lunch I eat roasted turkey, peas, apple, Diet Mt Dew

I eat whatever my wife cooks for supper.

I eat turkey jerky and blueberries as snacks during the day.

This diet is only dring the week. I eat a little more different stuff
when I am home on the weekends.

But I really feel my diet is not contributing. Even when I was younger
and in school I would come home and pass out on the couch. My mom once
asked my dad if I was on drugs because of this. (I was not).

I would just like to have more energy and a positive additude.
SOmetimes I get depressed a little.
Ron Peterson wrote:
Quote:
stryped wrote:
x-no-archive:yes

Why are you putting no archive on?

It does not matter what I eat. I am still the same. I try to eat a high
protein low carb during the day and it helps a little.

There are other nutrients besides carbs and protein. If you're not
overweight, complex carbs might help.

How much alcohol do you consume?

Do you smoke?

Are you getting plenty of fiber?

Are you getting calcium?

Are you eating vegetables which contain a variety of nutrients?

Are you getting omega-3 fatty acids?

Are you taking vitamin supplements such vitamin C, vitamin D, and the B
vitamins?

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Ron
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Mr-Natural-Health
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 12:45 pm    Post subject: Re: B 12 shot? I have lack of energy whole life Reply with quote

stryped wrote:

Quote:
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I am 6 feet around 180. I lightly lift weights for 20- 30 minutes in
the morning 5 days a week. I run 2.6 miles in about 20-22 minutes 3-4
days a week.

I might consume one drink every other day.
I take vitamin c tablets.
I take a multivitamin when I can remember.
I dont smoke.
I take a small amount of androgel for low normal testosterone.
For breakfast I eat a diet breakfast bar, a bannana, and a diet Mt Dew.

For lunch I eat roasted turkey, peas, apple, Diet Mt Dew

I eat whatever my wife cooks for supper.

I eat turkey jerky and blueberries as snacks during the day.

This diet is only dring the week. I eat a little more different stuff
when I am home on the weekends.

But I really feel my diet is not contributing. Even when I was younger
and in school I would come home and pass out on the couch. My mom once
asked my dad if I was on drugs because of this. (I was not).

I would just like to have more energy and a positive additude.
SOmetimes I get depressed a little.

There is both a physical and a mental element to feeling tired.

I would try taking St. John's Wort which you can buy at most vitamin
retailers. It is for treating mild depression. Give it at least 3
weeks. Just follow the directions on the bottle.

If that doesn't do it, I would try working on your diet. More food in
general, and a lot more vegetables and other higher quality natural
foods.
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The nutrition of eating a healthy diet is a biological factor of the
mind-body connection. Now, weighing in at 18 web pages, the
Nutrition of a Healthy Diet is with more documentation and
sharper terminology than ever before.
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Ron Peterson
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 1:16 pm    Post subject: Re: B 12 shot? I have lack of energy whole life Reply with quote

stryped wrote:
Quote:
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I am 6 feet around 180. I lightly lift weights for 20- 30 minutes in
the morning 5 days a week. I run 2.6 miles in about 20-22 minutes 3-4
days a week.

I might consume one drink every other day.
I take vitamin c tablets.
I take a multivitamin when I can remember.
I dont smoke.
I take a small amount of androgel for low normal testosterone.

I would say that you're basically very healthy and have a good life
style.

Quote:
For breakfast I eat a diet breakfast bar, a bannana, and a diet Mt Dew.

Try a glass of skim milk instead of the diet Mt. Dew to get some
calcium and a little extra protein. You might add an orange to that mix
for added potassium and fiber.

Quote:
For lunch I eat roasted turkey, peas, apple, Diet Mt Dew

I eat whatever my wife cooks for supper.

I eat turkey jerky and blueberries as snacks during the day.

Try a can of sardines a couple times a week for a snack which will give
you a little more omega-3 fatty acids.

Quote:
This diet is only dring the week. I eat a little more different stuff
when I am home on the weekends.

But I really feel my diet is not contributing. Even when I was younger
and in school I would come home and pass out on the couch. My mom once
asked my dad if I was on drugs because of this. (I was not).

That sounds like narcolepsy which sometimes goes away as you age. It
might now surface as a slight obsessive/compulsive disease.

Quote:
I would just like to have more energy and a positive additude.
SOmetimes I get depressed a little.

I don't think that diet will change your situation much. You might have
a slight medical condition that is causing your problem and this isn't
the right newsgroup to give you the hints that you need.

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Ron
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stryped@hotmail.com
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 2:51 pm    Post subject: Re: B 12 shot? I have lack of energy whole life Reply with quote

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I hate sardienes!

By the way, is there a diet that can help a guy "down there"? I
sometimes have a problem "getting and keeping" if you know what I mean.
Ron Peterson wrote:
Quote:
stryped wrote:
x-no-archive:yes

I am 6 feet around 180. I lightly lift weights for 20- 30 minutes in
the morning 5 days a week. I run 2.6 miles in about 20-22 minutes 3-4
days a week.

I might consume one drink every other day.
I take vitamin c tablets.
I take a multivitamin when I can remember.
I dont smoke.
I take a small amount of androgel for low normal testosterone.

I would say that you're basically very healthy and have a good life
style.

For breakfast I eat a diet breakfast bar, a bannana, and a diet Mt Dew.

Try a glass of skim milk instead of the diet Mt. Dew to get some
calcium and a little extra protein. You might add an orange to that mix
for added potassium and fiber.

For lunch I eat roasted turkey, peas, apple, Diet Mt Dew

I eat whatever my wife cooks for supper.

I eat turkey jerky and blueberries as snacks during the day.

Try a can of sardines a couple times a week for a snack which will give
you a little more omega-3 fatty acids.

This diet is only dring the week. I eat a little more different stuff
when I am home on the weekends.

But I really feel my diet is not contributing. Even when I was younger
and in school I would come home and pass out on the couch. My mom once
asked my dad if I was on drugs because of this. (I was not).

That sounds like narcolepsy which sometimes goes away as you age. It
might now surface as a slight obsessive/compulsive disease.

I would just like to have more energy and a positive additude.
SOmetimes I get depressed a little.

I don't think that diet will change your situation much. You might have
a slight medical condition that is causing your problem and this isn't
the right newsgroup to give you the hints that you need.

--
Ron
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Ron Peterson
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Joined: 18 May 2005
Posts: 181

PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 3:56 pm    Post subject: Re: B 12 shot? I have lack of energy whole life Reply with quote

stryped wrote:

Quote:
I hate sardienes!

Try herring, oysters, or clams instead. You can get omega-3 fatty acids
from capsules that will give you what you need -- you want EPA and DHA
content to total over 500 mg/day -- the super concentrated is more
economical.

Quote:
By the way, is there a diet that can help a guy "down there"? I
sometimes have a problem "getting and keeping" if you know what I mean.

The omega-3 should help. But you may need to get your blood pressure
down, which can be done a little bit by cutting down on salt. Try
eating watermelon on a regular basis this summer. Get a blood pressure
cuff to check and check your daily readings for a week. If you are
consistently over 135 systolic, get a prescription for an ACE inhibitor
or angiotensin blocker. Doctors like to prescribe hydrochlorothiazide,
but make sure they don't give you more than a minimal dose. Some blood
pressure medications, like beta blockers, will exacerbate your
condition depending on your physiology, so change if they do.

You might want to cut out meats containing nitrates.

The Androgel takes a while, so you may need to use Viagra (which works
by dilating blood vessels) for a few months. Keep the dosage small and
costs low by splitting the 100s into quarters. You may only need to use
it temporarily.

--
Ron
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TC
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Joined: 02 May 2005
Posts: 1814

PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 4:28 pm    Post subject: Re: B 12 shot? I have lack of energy whole life Reply with quote

stryped wrote:
Quote:
x-no-archive:yes

I am 6 feet around 180. I lightly lift weights for 20- 30 minutes in
the morning 5 days a week. I run 2.6 miles in about 20-22 minutes 3-4
days a week.

I might consume one drink every other day.
I take vitamin c tablets.
I take a multivitamin when I can remember.
I dont smoke.
I take a small amount of androgel for low normal testosterone.
For breakfast I eat a diet breakfast bar, a bannana, and a diet Mt Dew.

For lunch I eat roasted turkey, peas, apple, Diet Mt Dew

I eat whatever my wife cooks for supper.

I eat turkey jerky and blueberries as snacks during the day.

This diet is only dring the week. I eat a little more different stuff
when I am home on the weekends.

But I really feel my diet is not contributing. Even when I was younger
and in school I would come home and pass out on the couch. My mom once
asked my dad if I was on drugs because of this. (I was not).

I would just like to have more energy and a positive additude.
SOmetimes I get depressed a little.

A good b vitamin complex, stress formula. Two a day, in the morning
with food. Or one in the morning with food and one at lunch or supper
with food. Not before bed!

Also a minimum of 3000 mgs of vitamin C per day in smaller doses
thruout the day if possible.

Try it, it did me a world of good in terms of anxiety/depression and
general energy levels.

Also try to eat real foods, avoid fake manufactured foods. Fresh meats
and fresh produce.

TC
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stryped@hotmail.com
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 6:13 pm    Post subject: Re: B 12 shot? I have lack of energy whole life Reply with quote

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Tried Viagra. It made my heart go crazy and I have an irregular
heartbeat soemtimes to this day. SO I am afraid to take it.

I bought some ground flax seed at lunch to sprinkle over my fruit when
I eat it. It said it was a plant estrogen. Since it is an estrogen,
will it exaserbate my problem? I also bought some fish oil capsules.
Will it hurt to also take baby asprin?
Ron Peterson wrote:
Quote:
stryped wrote:

I hate sardienes!

Try herring, oysters, or clams instead. You can get omega-3 fatty acids
from capsules that will give you what you need -- you want EPA and DHA
content to total over 500 mg/day -- the super concentrated is more
economical.

By the way, is there a diet that can help a guy "down there"? I
sometimes have a problem "getting and keeping" if you know what I mean.

The omega-3 should help. But you may need to get your blood pressure
down, which can be done a little bit by cutting down on salt. Try
eating watermelon on a regular basis this summer. Get a blood pressure
cuff to check and check your daily readings for a week. If you are
consistently over 135 systolic, get a prescription for an ACE inhibitor
or angiotensin blocker. Doctors like to prescribe hydrochlorothiazide,
but make sure they don't give you more than a minimal dose. Some blood
pressure medications, like beta blockers, will exacerbate your
condition depending on your physiology, so change if they do.

You might want to cut out meats containing nitrates.

The Androgel takes a while, so you may need to use Viagra (which works
by dilating blood vessels) for a few months. Keep the dosage small and
costs low by splitting the 100s into quarters. You may only need to use
it temporarily.

--
Ron
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stryped@hotmail.com
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 6:16 pm    Post subject: Re: B 12 shot? I have lack of energy whole life Reply with quote

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My pressure is almost always on the lower end. ZEspecially my pulse. It
averages around 50. Pressure maybe 110/70. My problem is very
frustrating. It is not all the time but alot.
Ron Peterson wrote:
Quote:
stryped wrote:

I hate sardienes!

Try herring, oysters, or clams instead. You can get omega-3 fatty acids
from capsules that will give you what you need -- you want EPA and DHA
content to total over 500 mg/day -- the super concentrated is more
economical.

By the way, is there a diet that can help a guy "down there"? I
sometimes have a problem "getting and keeping" if you know what I mean.

The omega-3 should help. But you may need to get your blood pressure
down, which can be done a little bit by cutting down on salt. Try
eating watermelon on a regular basis this summer. Get a blood pressure
cuff to check and check your daily readings for a week. If you are
consistently over 135 systolic, get a prescription for an ACE inhibitor
or angiotensin blocker. Doctors like to prescribe hydrochlorothiazide,
but make sure they don't give you more than a minimal dose. Some blood
pressure medications, like beta blockers, will exacerbate your
condition depending on your physiology, so change if they do.

You might want to cut out meats containing nitrates.

The Androgel takes a while, so you may need to use Viagra (which works
by dilating blood vessels) for a few months. Keep the dosage small and
costs low by splitting the 100s into quarters. You may only need to use
it temporarily.

--
Ron
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Posts: 181

PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 7:47 pm    Post subject: Re: B 12 shot? I have lack of energy whole life Reply with quote

stryped wrote:

Quote:
My pressure is almost always on the lower end. ZEspecially my pulse. It
averages around 50. Pressure maybe 110/70. My problem is very
frustrating. It is not all the time but alot.

It looks like you have constant hypotension although your blood
pressure is a little above what would cause that diagnosis.

Try adding more caffeine to your diet, sodas only have a fifth of what
coffee has.

Drink more water (sports drinks have a little extra sodium and
potassium which should help).

You can probably up your salt intake to increase your body fluid level.

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Ron
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 7:55 pm    Post subject: Re: B 12 shot? I have lack of energy whole life Reply with quote

stryped wrote:

Quote:
Tried Viagra. It made my heart go crazy and I have an irregular
heartbeat soemtimes to this day. SO I am afraid to take it.

Did the Viagra work? I suggested splitting to reduce the chance of side
effects.

Quote:
I bought some ground flax seed at lunch to sprinkle over my fruit when
I eat it. It said it was a plant estrogen. Since it is an estrogen,
will it exaserbate my problem? I also bought some fish oil capsules.

Flax seed isn't an estrogen, but use the fish oil capsules instead. Soy
does have some estrogen properties, so avoid soy.

Quote:
Will it hurt to also take baby asprin?

Therapeutic aspirin (81 mg) won't do you any good at your young age and
may increase your risk of blood loss in an accident.

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Ron
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stryped@hotmail.com
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 8:36 pm    Post subject: Re: B 12 shot? I have lack of energy whole life Reply with quote

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Thanks so much for your help!

I did split the dose. It definitwely helps some. But for some reason
the next few days I would have periods of not being able to catch my
breath it scared me.

So I should not eat the flax seed I bought? Will it cause negative
things?

The fish oil I bought is 1200 mg. It is omega 3 and 6. it says to take
it 3 times a day. I just took it for one. I guess I need to take it 3.
Does it matter with meals?

Doesnt fish oil make your blood thinner like asprin? Is it safe for me
then if in an accident>
Ron Peterson wrote:
Quote:
stryped wrote:

Tried Viagra. It made my heart go crazy and I have an irregular
heartbeat soemtimes to this day. SO I am afraid to take it.

Did the Viagra work? I suggested splitting to reduce the chance of side
effects.

I bought some ground flax seed at lunch to sprinkle over my fruit when
I eat it. It said it was a plant estrogen. Since it is an estrogen,
will it exaserbate my problem? I also bought some fish oil capsules.

Flax seed isn't an estrogen, but use the fish oil capsules instead. Soy
does have some estrogen properties, so avoid soy.

Will it hurt to also take baby asprin?

Therapeutic aspirin (81 mg) won't do you any good at your young age and
may increase your risk of blood loss in an accident.

--
Ron
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