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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 7:25 pm    Post subject: Milk Poisons 3,000 Pupils in Northeast China's Liaoning Reply with quote

http://english.people.com.cn/200304/09/eng20030409_114834.shtml

Milk Poisons 3,000 Pupils in Northeast China's Liaoning

Milk Poisons 3,000 Pupils in Northeast China's Liaoning
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
More than 3,000 primary school pupils in Northeast China's Liaoning
Province continued to suffer the effects of poisoning Tuesday due to
their drinking soya milk produced by a Sino-United States joint
venture.

The local media said three students have died but the provincial
government did not confirm that figure. Some doctors and parents
suspected that deliberate poisoning had been involved.

More than 200 parents have taken their children to Beijing for better
medical treatment.

The students affected come from eight primary schools in the city of
Haicheng. They experienced stomach aches, headaches, dizziness and
twitching. The edges of many children's eyes, noses and mouths went
black and blue.

The suspected soya milk, recommended by the local educational
authorities on March 19, was produced by the Anshan-based Baorun Milk
Co, a Sino-United States joint venture based in the city of Anshan in
Liaoning Province.

Sources with the Anshan government, which also covers Haicheng, said
the cause of the food poisoning was still being investigated.

Parents reportedly heard the pupils had been infected with corpus
luteum mould but local authorities have not verified this.

One parent surnamed Gao said Beijing-based doctors had diagnosed some
of the children as having abnormal readings for white blood cells and
lymph.

Sources with the Beijing Children's Hospital, one of those in the
Chinese capital to have treated some of the victims, said the incident
was obviously a case of food poisoning but said it was difficult to
tell the origin.

One doctor, who refused to be named, said: "I am afraid someone has
intentionally put poison into the milk as the urinary albumin and
phosphorus indices are strangely higher than normal figures."

The parent surnamed Gao said the local health department has so far
refused to reveal the result of the examination it carried out.

Another parent, surnamed Yang, said they have to come to Beijing as few
hospitals in Liaoning have recognized the symptoms to cure the
children.

Yang said the milk has caused several children to go blind.

The Haicheng City Educational Commission, which had recommended that
the children drink the soya milk, said the incident was still being
investigated and no conclusion had been reached yet.

A representative of the Anshan Baorun Milk Co surnamed Han said she
suspected that a competitor was to blame as the soya milk from the same
batch delivered to other schools had not had any negative effects.

"The health and epidemic-prevention authorities have proven that our
products are up to the national standard," she said.

Han said her company has not been planning to pay out any compensation.


Sources with the Beijing-based Union Hospital said the Beijing
Municipal Public Security Bureau has become involved in the case but
declined to describe it as a criminal case.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 8:21 pm    Post subject: Re: Milk Poisons 3,000 Pupils in Northeast China's Liaoning Reply with quote

"The experts determined that some kind of trypsin inhibitor in the soy
milk was the cause of the accident, and people allergic to the agent would
suffer digestive tract problems after consuming the soy milk."

Yes, and we should be thinking about what in this incident? Even more
likely would be the more severe gi problems from using cow's milk, as most
chinese are lactose intolerant.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 8:49 pm    Post subject: Re: Milk Poisons 3,000 Pupils in Northeast China's Liaoning Reply with quote

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http://english.people.com.cn/200304/09/eng20030409_114834.shtml

Milk Poisons 3,000 Pupils in Northeast China's Liaoning

Milk Poisons 3,000 Pupils in Northeast China's Liaoning
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
More than 3,000 primary school pupils in Northeast China's Liaoning
Province continued to suffer the effects of poisoning Tuesday due to
their drinking soya milk produced by a Sino-United States joint
venture.

The local media said three students have died but the provincial
government did not confirm that figure. Some doctors and parents
suspected that deliberate poisoning had been involved.

More than 200 parents have taken their children to Beijing for better
medical treatment.

The students affected come from eight primary schools in the city of
Haicheng. They experienced stomach aches, headaches, dizziness and
twitching. The edges of many children's eyes, noses and mouths went
black and blue.

The suspected soya milk, recommended by the local educational
authorities on March 19, was produced by the Anshan-based Baorun Milk
Co, a Sino-United States joint venture based in the city of Anshan in
Liaoning Province.

Sources with the Anshan government, which also covers Haicheng, said
the cause of the food poisoning was still being investigated.

Parents reportedly heard the pupils had been infected with corpus
luteum mould but local authorities have not verified this.

One parent surnamed Gao said Beijing-based doctors had diagnosed some
of the children as having abnormal readings for white blood cells and
lymph.

Sources with the Beijing Children's Hospital, one of those in the
Chinese capital to have treated some of the victims, said the incident
was obviously a case of food poisoning but said it was difficult to
tell the origin.

One doctor, who refused to be named, said: "I am afraid someone has
intentionally put poison into the milk as the urinary albumin and
phosphorus indices are strangely higher than normal figures."

The parent surnamed Gao said the local health department has so far
refused to reveal the result of the examination it carried out.

Another parent, surnamed Yang, said they have to come to Beijing as few
hospitals in Liaoning have recognized the symptoms to cure the
children.

Yang said the milk has caused several children to go blind.

The Haicheng City Educational Commission, which had recommended that
the children drink the soya milk, said the incident was still being
investigated and no conclusion had been reached yet.

A representative of the Anshan Baorun Milk Co surnamed Han said she
suspected that a competitor was to blame as the soya milk from the same
batch delivered to other schools had not had any negative effects.

"The health and epidemic-prevention authorities have proven that our
products are up to the national standard," she said.

Han said her company has not been planning to pay out any compensation.


Sources with the Beijing-based Union Hospital said the Beijing
Municipal Public Security Bureau has become involved in the case but
declined to describe it as a criminal case.

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http://english.peopledaily.com.cn/200304/19/eng20030419_115426.shtml

Liaoning Publishes Investigation Result of Milk Poisoning Case
The government of Anshan city and health department of Liaoning
Province published on April 16 the investigation result at the second
news briefing of the milk poisoning case in Haicheng city.

The government of Anshan city and health department of Liaoning
Province published on April 16 the investigation result at the second
news briefing of the milk poisoning case in Haicheng city.

On March 19, about 4,900 students from eight elementary schools in
Haicheng drank a certain kind of soy milk and 2,556 of them became sick
afterward. From April 9 to 15, the Ministry of Health and Liaoning
health department jointly formed an investigation team, consisting of
experts on food security, epidemic diseases, food processing,
microbiology and clinical medicine, and conducted investigation into
the case caused by soy milk produced by Baorun Milk Co, a Sino-United
States joint venture based in the city of Anshan in Liaoning Province.

The experts determined that some kind of trypsin inhibitor in the soy
milk was the cause of the accident, and people allergic to the agent
would suffer digestive tract problems after consuming the soy milk.
They also ruled out the possibility of bacterial, chemical and animal
poisons. Experts also held that people usually recover well from the
sickness and there will be no long-term, potential harm to the body.

Anshan mayor Zhang Jiehui briefed the investigation work of both Anshan
and Haicheng authorities, making two promises to the society. First,
Anshan government will be responsible for the health and life security
of the 2556 pupils to the end, and make all efforts to ensure that all
students recover from the illness. Second, the government will handle
the case and people involved according to law and the principles of
"being just, transparent and no cover-up for anybody". Anshan
government also made known that the death of Li Yang, a 12-year-old
girl who died half a month after drinking the soy milk at school, was
caused by carbon monoxide poisoning, and not the milk. Up to the
evening of April 15, 84 pupils had been under treatment in three local
hospitals.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 8:51 pm    Post subject: Re: Milk Poisons 3,000 Pupils in Northeast China's Liaoning Reply with quote

TC wrote:
Quote:
http://english.people.com.cn/200304/09/eng20030409_114834.shtml

Milk Poisons 3,000 Pupils in Northeast China's Liaoning

Milk Poisons 3,000 Pupils in Northeast China's Liaoning
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
More than 3,000 primary school pupils in Northeast China's Liaoning
Province continued to suffer the effects of poisoning Tuesday due to
their drinking soya milk produced by a Sino-United States joint
venture.

The local media said three students have died but the provincial
government did not confirm that figure. Some doctors and parents
suspected that deliberate poisoning had been involved.

More than 200 parents have taken their children to Beijing for better
medical treatment.

The students affected come from eight primary schools in the city of
Haicheng. They experienced stomach aches, headaches, dizziness and
twitching. The edges of many children's eyes, noses and mouths went
black and blue.

The suspected soya milk, recommended by the local educational
authorities on March 19, was produced by the Anshan-based Baorun Milk
Co, a Sino-United States joint venture based in the city of Anshan in
Liaoning Province.

Sources with the Anshan government, which also covers Haicheng, said
the cause of the food poisoning was still being investigated.

Parents reportedly heard the pupils had been infected with corpus
luteum mould but local authorities have not verified this.

One parent surnamed Gao said Beijing-based doctors had diagnosed some
of the children as having abnormal readings for white blood cells and
lymph.

Sources with the Beijing Children's Hospital, one of those in the
Chinese capital to have treated some of the victims, said the incident
was obviously a case of food poisoning but said it was difficult to
tell the origin.

One doctor, who refused to be named, said: "I am afraid someone has
intentionally put poison into the milk as the urinary albumin and
phosphorus indices are strangely higher than normal figures."

The parent surnamed Gao said the local health department has so far
refused to reveal the result of the examination it carried out.

Another parent, surnamed Yang, said they have to come to Beijing as few
hospitals in Liaoning have recognized the symptoms to cure the
children.

Yang said the milk has caused several children to go blind.

The Haicheng City Educational Commission, which had recommended that
the children drink the soya milk, said the incident was still being
investigated and no conclusion had been reached yet.

A representative of the Anshan Baorun Milk Co surnamed Han said she
suspected that a competitor was to blame as the soya milk from the same
batch delivered to other schools had not had any negative effects.

"The health and epidemic-prevention authorities have proven that our
products are up to the national standard," she said.

Han said her company has not been planning to pay out any compensation.


Sources with the Beijing-based Union Hospital said the Beijing
Municipal Public Security Bureau has become involved in the case but
declined to describe it as a criminal case.

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http://app1.chinadaily.com.cn/star/2003/0417/bz10-5.html

Soybean milk banned after 2,500 pupils poisoned

Shanghai Star. 2003-04-17
THE Education Department of Northeast China's Liaoning Province has
ordered an immediate halt to soybean milk consumption in all primary
and middle schools in the province.

The soybean milk ban followed a series of poisoning incidents last
month.

More than 2,500 pupils became ill after drinking soybean milk on the
same day. Three later died, according to the Beijing based Jinghua
Shibao.

A natural ingredient in the drink was said to have been the cause of
the trouble.

On the afternoon of March 19, Yang Xiaoyu (not her real name), a
grade-three pupil of a Tiexi Primary School in Haicheng city in
Liaoning felt very uncomfortable after school. Her father Yang brought
her to nearby Guangji Hospital immediately.

What surprised him was that hundreds of parents were already waiting at
the gate of the emergency treatment ward. All the children were
suffering from sickness, vomiting and twitching. All came from local
schools.

That morning, children drank a brand of soybean milk recommended by the
local educational commission. It was the first time they had consumed
soybean milk produced by Anshan Baorun Dairy Co Ltd.

After drinking, many children complained of stomach aches and the
condition of some became serious. Early on the morning of April 1, Li
Yang, a girl from the Tiexi Primary School died. The result of the
examination of another dead child concluded she also had died from
poisoning.

After the news began to spread, about 100 parents took their children
to doctors in Beijing, worried that the local hospital in Haicheng
would be unable to cure their children.

The three cases of death obviously shocked and worried the parents of
affected children. But the local hospital held back from giving a
specific answer to questions about the case.

The city government of Haicheng held a meeting with parents on April 4.
Officials reiterated at the meeting that encouraging children to take
the soybean milk was decided by higher level officials because such
milk benefits health.

On April 16, the reason for the poisoning was found, according to
Xinhua News Agency. A natural gene in the soybean milk was identified
as the culprit, said a group of experts from the Ministry of Health and
from Liaoning Province.

They said treatment was not necessary unless the symptoms were serious.
After treatment, people affected would quickly recover without
after-effects.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 8:55 pm    Post subject: Re: Milk Poisons 3,000 Pupils in Northeast China's Liaoning Reply with quote

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Quote:
http://english.people.com.cn/200304/09/eng20030409_114834.shtml

Milk Poisons 3,000 Pupils in Northeast China's Liaoning

Milk Poisons 3,000 Pupils in Northeast China's Liaoning
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
More than 3,000 primary school pupils in Northeast China's Liaoning
Province continued to suffer the effects of poisoning Tuesday due to
their drinking soya milk produced by a Sino-United States joint
venture.

The local media said three students have died but the provincial
government did not confirm that figure. Some doctors and parents
suspected that deliberate poisoning had been involved.

More than 200 parents have taken their children to Beijing for better
medical treatment.

The students affected come from eight primary schools in the city of
Haicheng. They experienced stomach aches, headaches, dizziness and
twitching. The edges of many children's eyes, noses and mouths went
black and blue.

The suspected soya milk, recommended by the local educational
authorities on March 19, was produced by the Anshan-based Baorun Milk
Co, a Sino-United States joint venture based in the city of Anshan in
Liaoning Province.

Sources with the Anshan government, which also covers Haicheng, said
the cause of the food poisoning was still being investigated.

Parents reportedly heard the pupils had been infected with corpus
luteum mould but local authorities have not verified this.

One parent surnamed Gao said Beijing-based doctors had diagnosed some
of the children as having abnormal readings for white blood cells and
lymph.

Sources with the Beijing Children's Hospital, one of those in the
Chinese capital to have treated some of the victims, said the incident
was obviously a case of food poisoning but said it was difficult to
tell the origin.

One doctor, who refused to be named, said: "I am afraid someone has
intentionally put poison into the milk as the urinary albumin and
phosphorus indices are strangely higher than normal figures."

The parent surnamed Gao said the local health department has so far
refused to reveal the result of the examination it carried out.

Another parent, surnamed Yang, said they have to come to Beijing as few
hospitals in Liaoning have recognized the symptoms to cure the
children.

Yang said the milk has caused several children to go blind.

The Haicheng City Educational Commission, which had recommended that
the children drink the soya milk, said the incident was still being
investigated and no conclusion had been reached yet.

A representative of the Anshan Baorun Milk Co surnamed Han said she
suspected that a competitor was to blame as the soya milk from the same
batch delivered to other schools had not had any negative effects.

"The health and epidemic-prevention authorities have proven that our
products are up to the national standard," she said.

Han said her company has not been planning to pay out any compensation.


Sources with the Beijing-based Union Hospital said the Beijing
Municipal Public Security Bureau has become involved in the case but
declined to describe it as a criminal case.

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http://www.iiasiisa.be/schools/aeconf/miami/aepapers/VMA.pdf

very interesting reading.

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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 9:03 pm    Post subject: Re: Milk Poisons 3,000 Pupils in Northeast China's Liaoning Reply with quote

TC wrote:
Quote:
http://english.people.com.cn/200304/09/eng20030409_114834.shtml

Milk Poisons 3,000 Pupils in Northeast China's Liaoning

Milk Poisons 3,000 Pupils in Northeast China's Liaoning
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
More than 3,000 primary school pupils in Northeast China's Liaoning
Province continued to suffer the effects of poisoning Tuesday due to
their drinking soya milk produced by a Sino-United States joint
venture.

The local media said three students have died but the provincial
government did not confirm that figure. Some doctors and parents
suspected that deliberate poisoning had been involved.

More than 200 parents have taken their children to Beijing for better
medical treatment.

The students affected come from eight primary schools in the city of
Haicheng. They experienced stomach aches, headaches, dizziness and
twitching. The edges of many children's eyes, noses and mouths went
black and blue.

The suspected soya milk, recommended by the local educational
authorities on March 19, was produced by the Anshan-based Baorun Milk
Co, a Sino-United States joint venture based in the city of Anshan in
Liaoning Province.

Sources with the Anshan government, which also covers Haicheng, said
the cause of the food poisoning was still being investigated.

Parents reportedly heard the pupils had been infected with corpus
luteum mould but local authorities have not verified this.

One parent surnamed Gao said Beijing-based doctors had diagnosed some
of the children as having abnormal readings for white blood cells and
lymph.

Sources with the Beijing Children's Hospital, one of those in the
Chinese capital to have treated some of the victims, said the incident
was obviously a case of food poisoning but said it was difficult to
tell the origin.

One doctor, who refused to be named, said: "I am afraid someone has
intentionally put poison into the milk as the urinary albumin and
phosphorus indices are strangely higher than normal figures."

The parent surnamed Gao said the local health department has so far
refused to reveal the result of the examination it carried out.

Another parent, surnamed Yang, said they have to come to Beijing as few
hospitals in Liaoning have recognized the symptoms to cure the
children.

Yang said the milk has caused several children to go blind.

The Haicheng City Educational Commission, which had recommended that
the children drink the soya milk, said the incident was still being
investigated and no conclusion had been reached yet.

A representative of the Anshan Baorun Milk Co surnamed Han said she
suspected that a competitor was to blame as the soya milk from the same
batch delivered to other schools had not had any negative effects.

"The health and epidemic-prevention authorities have proven that our
products are up to the national standard," she said.

Han said her company has not been planning to pay out any compensation.


Sources with the Beijing-based Union Hospital said the Beijing
Municipal Public Security Bureau has become involved in the case but
declined to describe it as a criminal case.

**********

TC

http://www.chinagateway.com.cn/english/3770.htm

Initial Result of Pupil's Death Causes Disputes



A Sino-US joint venture milk company was not responsible for the death
of a girl who was among several thousand school children taken ill
after drinking its product, said a disputed initial report.


According to the Anshan city government in Liaoning Province, the death
of 12-year-old Li Yang, who died about two weeks after drinking the
soya milk at school in Haicheng of Northeast China's Liaoning Province,
was caused by carbon monoxide.


Li is the only person confirmed dead after about 4,900 students from
eight elementary schools in Haicheng drank the milk on March 19. Many
of them became sick afterwards.


Some parents claimed that at least three students had died due to the
soya milk but the claim could not be confirmed yet.


The outcome of the initial investigation was released at the weekend.


"We definitely do not accept the result," Li's father said. "We were in
the same room as our daughter that night. If she died due to absorbing
carbon monoxide, then how come there was nothing wrong with us?"


Despite the Anshan government saying Li's death was not related to the
soya milk, it said the Anshan Baorun Milk Company's product did cause
illness among more than 2,500 primary school students.


The milk was selected by Haicheng's Tiexi District Educational
Commission for consumption by students.


City government sources said the cause of the students' various
illnesses is not yet known.


Experts sent by the Ministry of Health are in Haicheng looking into the
matter.


Four scientists from the ministry and the Chinese Center for Disease
Prevention and Control arrived in Shenyang, capital of Liaoning, last
week and began collecting data in Shenyang, Anshan and Haicheng,
particularly samples from the milk factory.


All of the experts will carry out independent investigations, a
Ministry of Health official said.


The Haicheng government has promised to pay all of the students'
medical fees before the final result is released.


It is the second soya milk poisoning case in Liaoning Province in six
months.


In September, students from 17 schools in Lingyuan got sick after
drinking milk from a factory in Chaoyang.


(China Daily April 14, 2003)

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 3:59 am    Post subject: Re: Milk Poisons 3,000 Pupils in Northeast China's Liaoning Reply with quote

outsor@citynet.net wrote:
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"The experts determined that some kind of trypsin inhibitor in the soy
milk was the cause of the accident, and people allergic to the agent would
suffer digestive tract problems after consuming the soy milk."

Yes, and we should be thinking about what in this incident? Even more
likely would be the more severe gi problems from using cow's milk, as most
chinese are lactose intolerant.

I've never heard of any gi problems from cow's milk except for that
small minority with lactose intolerance, and that means some gi
discomfort..... NOT POISONING AND DEATH.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 12:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Milk Poisons 3,000 Pupils in Northeast China's Liaoning Reply with quote

"I've never heard of any gi problems from cow's milk except for that small
minority with lactose intolerance, and that means some gi discomfort.....
NOT POISONING AND DEATH."

It was a substance in that specific batch of soy milk, not soy milk, that
was the problem, having one presumes consumed the milk routinely in past.
"minority" doesn't describe the fact in china where a majority of a
billion
plus population have the problem. The substance was not confirmed to have
caused deaths, 3 were first reported, and some of those drinking that
batch
to which they were allergic had gi problems which if severe enough can
cause death.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Milk Poisons 3,000 Pupils in Northeast China's Liaoning Reply with quote

out...@citynet.net wrote:
Quote:
"I've never heard of any gi problems from cow's milk except for that small
minority with lactose intolerance, and that means some gi discomfort.....
NOT POISONING AND DEATH."

It was a substance in that specific batch of soy milk, not soy milk, that
was the problem, having one presumes consumed the milk routinely in past.
"minority" doesn't describe the fact in china where a majority of a
billion
plus population have the problem. The substance was not confirmed to have
caused deaths, 3 were first reported, and some of those drinking that
batch
to which they were allergic had gi problems which if severe enough can
cause death.

"The experts determined that some kind of trypsin inhibitor in the soy
milk was the cause of the accident..."

I don't care how you choose to spin it, but there is a naturally
occurring substance in the soy that caused over 3000 *CHILDREN* to get
sick, one confirmed death and three reported deaths.

It is a clear sign of just how far you will go to try to justify the
consumption of soy that you would ignore such a blatant example of the
dangerous aspects of the soybean as a food.

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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 2:56 pm    Post subject: Re: Milk Poisons 3,000 Pupils in Northeast China's Liaoning Reply with quote

""The experts determined that some kind
milk was the cause of the accident...""

Yes, i posted that first. The trypsin is inhibition is usually greatly
lowered or removed by processing of soy by cooking or fermentation. Note
the word "accident", for some reason in this batch it was not and those
children, and those only, alergic to it had gastric reactions among all
the children at the school where it happened. Some people can eat simple
boiled soy beans without any such reaction and the levels of the substance
remains high. In usual digestion trypsin helps digest proteins and the
gastric upset the children had was likely due to that incomplete digestion
and/or combined with a simple allergy reaction. Soy milk is used by
millions of children each day without this effect so the real question
becomes why this specific batch had higher abnormal levels of the
substance.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 7:31 pm    Post subject: Re: Milk Poisons 3,000 Pupils in Northeast China's Liaoning Reply with quote

outsor@cityweb.com wrote:
Quote:
""The experts determined that some kind
milk was the cause of the accident...""

Yes, i posted that first. The trypsin is inhibition is usually greatly
lowered or removed by processing of soy by cooking or fermentation. Note
the word "accident", for some reason in this batch it was not and those
children, and those only, alergic to it had gastric reactions among all
the children at the school where it happened. Some people can eat simple
boiled soy beans without any such reaction and the levels of the substance
remains high. In usual digestion trypsin helps digest proteins and the
gastric upset the children had was likely due to that incomplete digestion
and/or combined with a simple allergy reaction. Soy milk is used by
millions of children each day without this effect so the real question
becomes why this specific batch had higher abnormal levels of the
substance.

That is indeed the question. And the next question is how much of this
substance is in our soy products, and what deleterious effects will it
have on our children in the short and long term. Is there any guarantee
that our children aren't being harmed by this substance in soy. Is soy
100% safe for our children? What kind of moron would willingly and
knowingly feed this poison in any quantity to their children?

Lots of interesting questions about the safety of soy as a food for
humans.

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