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Truckdude
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"Marcus Aurelius" <alexander26a@hotmail.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | There are lots of "metro males" in the USA today. A "metro male" is a
male who has become somewhat effeminate and who adopts feminist
political social-political-economic-cultural norms in order to remain
employment in the increasingly feminine and feminist work place. "Metro
male nurses" are notably probably the majority in nursing. They must
adopt the "metro male nurse" facade in order to remain employed as
nurses.
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"notably probably"? If you have to change your personality to get along at
work, then there is something else going on that you don't want to admit to. |
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Kurt Ullman
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| Posted: Mon Jul 03, 2006 8:59 pm Post subject:
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In article <_1eqg.2347$ye3.1262@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net>,
Norminn <norminn@earthlink.net> wrote:
| Quote: | Marcus Aurelius wrote:
There are lots of "metro males" in the USA today. A "metro male" is a
male who has become somewhat effeminate and who adopts feminist
political social-political-economic-cultural norms in order to remain
employment in the increasingly feminine and feminist work place. "Metro
male nurses" are notably probably the majority in nursing. They must
adopt the "metro male nurse" facade in order to remain employed as
nurses.
Marcus, I believe you have outdone yourself. Not easy to do.
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You gotta admit watching a real pro at work (even if it is only being
a pro a*****le) is inspiring. (grin) |
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Jan
medicine forum Guru Wannabe
Joined: 15 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Tue Jul 04, 2006 6:59 pm Post subject:
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Talk about "dating yourself".........my newly graduated pay rate was
5.47/hr.
Takehome pay 385.00 per 2 wk period, 365 when union dues were deducted.
Oh yeah and I am a diploma grad. 1978,.......... Oh yeah and I am one of
those foreign born folks.........english pretty good EH!
<Hawki63@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" <mortschnerd@carolina.rr.com.REMOVE> wrote in
message news:f3Wng.3377$so3.1587@southeast.rr.com...
Two and a half to three years for an ADN? Not at my school. We had 44
units
to complete prior to the two years of nursing core courses (43 units).
I
graduated on May 30th.
If you're going to screw around that much you might as well have gotten
your BSN. My thinking was to rejoin the work force ASAP. I was't living
on the largess of Mom and Dad any more. I needed to support myself and I
did. 21 months from stat to finish.
Like Hawk63, we were called graduate nurses and paid RN pay from our
first day on the job on May 25th. I took the NCLEX when it was first
offered (in July). We were in the last class to take the NCLEX on paper.
Results didn't come out until October. If I had failed, my pay and
position would have been degraded to CNA-II. As it was, I passed but no
pay raise either.
My first paycheck as a floor nurse was at $13.35 an hour.
dating myself here...but...my first job(the monday after I grad on
friday)...was $2.25 an hour...yep....$90 a week folks!!! however...I
also shared a pretty big 2 bedroom apt with three friends..and montly
rent..with utilities was $100...
ahhhhhh.....the 60's
The amazing part to
me was now they were giving me money to do what I'd been doing all along,
only now I didn't have to study before I showed up.
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Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerd@carolina.rr.com.REMOVE
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guarnot
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| Posted: Thu Jul 06, 2006 3:28 am Post subject:
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I've heard the term "metrosexual," but I've never heard "metro male."
Of course, this phrase could just be a reflection of CV/"Marcus"'s
deep-seated fear of human sexuality. On the other hand, I did a Google
search and found out that "Metro Male" is a brand of men's hair care
products. Go figure?
Marcus Aurelius wrote:
| Quote: | There are lots of "metro males" in the USA today. A "metro male" is a
male who has become somewhat effeminate and who adopts feminist
political social-political-economic-cultural norms in order to remain
employment in the increasingly feminine and feminist work place. "Metro
male nurses" are notably probably the majority in nursing. They must
adopt the "metro male nurse" facade in order to remain employed as
nurses.
Renee wrote:
"Starlight" <homehealth_rnDELETE@yahoo.com> wrote in message
On Tue, 27 Jun 2006 23:06:06 -0600, "Earle Horton"
I would love to go back to nursing school, and preach the virtues of
critical thinking to the Philistines, but I think that most are just
not
interested.
Haven't been around much, have you. You can't judge all nursing
schools by your narrow experience. You're starting to sound like
Comptom Shaw (or whatever his name is now) and his tortured
existence
as a male nurse.
He's ranting on other newsgroups and nursing boards as "Marcus
Aurelius," on some tear about communism vs. capitalism in the nursing
world.
There's nothing like experience to develop a good nurse, but IMO
that
nurse has to have inate qualities that enable her/him to think
critically and a true willingness to learn all of what she/he is
being
taught, doing suggested independent study also. Students think they
should be spoon fed, when that isn't what true learning is about.
After 30 years of nursing, it seems there are people who are
naturally
good nurses and others who won't be good nurses no matter which
school
they go to or who they work with.
So true. I never heard the term "critical thinking" in my entire
nursing program. Does that mean my entire class graduated and became
crappy nurses? Of course not. We used our natural abilities to build
upon what we learned in school; the degree of success depended on our
talents and our work ethic. It's the job of nursing school to provide
the basics. What you do with them is up to you.
Earle's still got his nose pressed to the glass, I see. Dude, either
suck it up and finish nursing school, or get over it and go back to
drooling over your checks from Micro$loth. Nursing school isn't Greek
tragedy. Really. Some actually get out alive. |
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Mortimer Schnerd, RN
medicine forum Guru Wannabe
Joined: 09 May 2005
Posts: 208
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guarnot wrote:
| Quote: | Marcus Aurelius wrote:
There are lots of "metro males" in the USA today. A "metro male" is a
male who has become somewhat effeminate and who adopts feminist
political social-political-economic-cultural norms in order to remain
employment in the increasingly feminine and feminist work place. "Metro
male nurses" are notably probably the majority in nursing. They must
adopt the "metro male nurse" facade in order to remain employed as
nurses.
I've heard the term "metrosexual," but I've never heard "metro male."
Of course, this phrase could just be a reflection of CV/"Marcus"'s
deep-seated fear of human sexuality. On the other hand, I did a Google
search and found out that "Metro Male" is a brand of men's hair care
products. Go figure?
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CV has some serious personality problems. He comes up with this crap and then
insists we all have to do it to keep our jobs. I manage to keep mine by being
pleasant to my coworkers and patients, and competent in my practice. As far as
the rest of it goes, I don't know what he's babbling about.
I've dated a few nurses over the years and the way you keep out of trouble is
you don't touch at work and you don't show up unexpectedly when you're not at
work. I've never had a problem at work over sexual harassment. I've known a
few that have and all I can say is they broke the rules. I tried to warn them.
If CV can't get along with women it's his own fault. But then I think most of
us already know that.
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Mortimer Schnerd, RN
mschnerd@carolina.rr.com.REMOVE |
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