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Alexander Vasserman DDS
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 Posted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 7:14 pm Post subject:
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Beach Runner wrote:
| Quote: | On really major work, it is wise to get a second opinion,
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That's fine but be ready to expect many different solutions for your
problem AND OR concern which is very subjective. Teeth are not an
engine that if one component breaks down everything stops working. The
mouth is a fluid and harsh environment where anything can happen.
p.s.
Some solutions may be better than others, it all depends on the
dentists individual philosophy, knowledge and experience |
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Joel M. Eichen
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Stormin Mormon
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| Posted: Tue Jun 27, 2006 12:11 am Post subject:
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You can dry Elmers in this application with a gentle use of a propane
torch.
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"Joel344" <joeleichen@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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You can use Elmer's but its tough as nails to get the
C-clamp positioned right and then you must let it set overnight.
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vjp2.at@at.BioStrategist.
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Most drugstores around here have a temporary filling product called
Temparin by Dentek. It smells like latex so that's prolly what it is.
I would recommend cleaning with toothbrush, toothpase and mouthwash
first. It does no good to seal the caries bugs inside the tooth!
I run scared whenever a filling pops because one year (1990) I got
my only two root canals in rapid succession thanks to raspberry
marmalade seeds. I learned that an open filling is an invitation for
big trouble. It spoils the tooth real fast.
The problem with Temparin (as with most of my regular fillings) is
I have a lot of cavities where my gums died off and most filling isn't
(like the original space shuttle tiles) isn't made for shear (x,y)
stress. Of course, the answer to that is fluoride treatment like
Prevadent (Rx).
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Vasos-Peter John Panagiotopoulos II, Reagan Mozart Pindus BioStrategist
http://ourworld.compuserve.com/homepages/vjp2/vasos.htm
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Eric
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| Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 2:57 am Post subject:
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Alex,
I'm pretty sure I need a crown. I was wonderling how long I could put
off going in.
The drugstore temporary filling material didn't work for me, probably
because it's on my rearmost molar.
I was unaware of the ph problem with elmers glue, another knowledgeable
person noted.
The usenet is full of interesting people having tried things I wouldn't
have imagined.
There was some glimmer hope some genius/crackpot would have a surefire
stopgap before meeting with another crown.
I have two on the other side, which were not fun and still problematic.
Thanks!
-Eric
Alexander Vasserman DDS wrote:
| Quote: | Just go to a dentist as soon as you can.
Temp stuff in the drugstore is ok but no guarantee it will stay for any
length of time.
Also if you are getting a tooth coloured filling, I would stay away
from anything that contains eugenol since risidual eugenol incorporated
in your tooth can inhibit the bond between the permanent tooth coloured
filling and your tooth.
Also you may need a crown so be prepared.
Eric wrote:
I have a pit where a piece of tooth broke off and I don't have the
ability to see a denstist quickly.
There's no pain, and I rinse it with hydrogen peroxide.
Ok.
Super glue is toxic,
No it is not. It is used to glue skin together after cosmetic
surgery/gum surgery or during trauma.
Just breathing on super glue will make it set up. Moisture accelerates
the set of the glue. Also Prolonged moisture makes the glue dissolve so
for this reason it is not a good material of choice.
but can I use elmer's glue?
huh??? it won't set in the mouth.
It's made out of bones already, isn't it? 
Not sure what this glue is made of.
I do not recommend it for dentistry. |
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Joel M. Eichen
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| Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 11:06 am Post subject:
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Yeah Elmer was a dentist who decided people were not his cup-o-tea
....... he went on to make millions .....
Who knows that dentist invented that crazy glue on nail business?
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Don K
medicine forum beginner
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| Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 12:34 pm Post subject:
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"Eric" <eric.lindahl@gmail.com> wrote in message
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I'm pretty sure I need a crown. I was wonderling how long I could put
off going in.
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Few problems get better by ignoring them. Most tend to evolve into
bigger ones. If you put this one off long enough the crown issue
will go away by itself and you can then deal with pulling the tooth, if
that's easier for you.
| Quote: | There was some glimmer hope some genius/crackpot would have a surefire
stopgap before meeting with another crown.
I have two on the other side, which were not fun and still problematic.
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Don't expect that you can do it any better yourself.
If you want to be a guinea pig, go to a dental clinic where they're
training new dentists.
Don |
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345
medicine forum beginner
Joined: 28 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 7:19 pm Post subject:
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Don K <dk@dont_bother_me.com> wrote:
| Quote: | "Eric" <eric.lindahl@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:1151463471.494830.67100@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
I'm pretty sure I need a crown. I was wonderling how long I could put
off going in.
Few problems get better by ignoring them.
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That's just plain wrong, plenty do, most obviously with some medical
problems like the common cold which get better when you ignore it.
| Quote: | Most tend to evolve into bigger ones.
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Most dont, actually.
| Quote: | If you put this one off long enough the crown issue will go away by itself and you can
then deal with pulling the tooth, if that's easier for you.
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A CHIPPED tooth doesnt necessarily end up needing to be pulled.
| Quote: | There was some glimmer hope some genius/crackpot would have a surefire stopgap before
meeting with another crown.
I have two on the other side, which were not fun and still problematic.
Don't expect that you can do it any better yourself.
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He's likely have not problem just ignoring it until it can be fixed.
| Quote: | If you want to be a guinea pig, go to a dental clinic where they're training new
dentists.
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Those arent guinea pigs, they are supervised
much better than a new practising dentist is. |
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Ron Peterson
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Joined: 18 May 2005
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| Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 8:18 pm Post subject:
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Stormin Mormon wrote:
| Quote: | How about five bucks for the dental temp filling stuff? I've never
used it. But supposed to be similar to what dentists use to prep the
filling before the real filling. However, I think it's mostly for
cavities. Not for a piece broken off the edge.
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You're right. The stuff isn't strong enough to maintain a biting edge.
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seerialmom@yahoo.com
medicine forum beginner
Joined: 28 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 9:37 pm Post subject:
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Eric wrote:
| Quote: | I have a pit where a piece of tooth broke off and I don't have the
ability to see a denstist quickly.
There's no pain, and I rinse it with hydrogen peroxide.
Super glue is toxic, but can I use elmer's glue?
It's made out of bones already, isn't it? :-)
Thanks,
-Nanomid
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There is some temporary filling material sold OTC at most local drug
stores in the toothbrush/paste areas. Additionally, Elmers glue would
disolve in water. |
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seerialmom@yahoo.com
medicine forum beginner
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| Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 9:44 pm Post subject:
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Alexander Vasserman DDS wrote:
| Quote: | Just go to a dentist as soon as you can.
Temp stuff in the drugstore is ok but no guarantee it will stay for any
length of time.
Also if you are getting a tooth coloured filling, I would stay away
from anything that contains eugenol since risidual eugenol incorporated
in your tooth can inhibit the bond between the permanent tooth coloured
filling and your tooth.
Also you may need a crown so be prepared.
Eric wrote:
I have a pit where a piece of tooth broke off and I don't have the
ability to see a denstist quickly.
There's no pain, and I rinse it with hydrogen peroxide.
Ok.
Super glue is toxic,
No it is not. It is used to glue skin together after cosmetic
surgery/gum surgery or during trauma.
Just breathing on super glue will make it set up. Moisture accelerates
the set of the glue. Also Prolonged moisture makes the glue dissolve so
for this reason it is not a good material of choice.
I agree about the superglue; I have a partial with one tooth and whilst |
eating corn on the cob the tooth broke off the plate (it was in the
lower front). I grabbed my handy bottle of superglue and reconnected
it; of course I waited until it was dry before replacing in my mouth.
The miniscule amount needed even if I dropped it on my tongue wouldn't
have hurt (though it might have stuck to the roof of my mouth).
Anyway, it held up for the week or so before the replacement could be
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Don K
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| Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 10:45 pm Post subject:
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"345" <345@jjss.com.ru> wrote in message
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If you want to be a guinea pig, go to a dental clinic where they're training new dentists.
Those arent guinea pigs, they are supervised
much better than a new practising dentist is.
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There are limits to what supervision can effectively control.
There's quite a lag in the complex feedback loop controlling what
the trainee's hands are doing. A misjudgment or slip of the hand
and the damage is already done.
Anyway I meant the guinea pig reference only in the context that the
OP was willing to experiment on himself, and not necessarily as a
characterization of a teaching school.
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Mark & Steven Bornfel
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| Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 10:51 pm Post subject:
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Don K wrote:
| Quote: | "345" <345@jjss.com.ru> wrote in message
news:44a2d659$0$12249$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
If you want to be a guinea pig, go to a dental clinic where they're training new dentists.
Those arent guinea pigs, they are supervised
much better than a new practising dentist is.
There are limits to what supervision can effectively control.
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I used to teach at a dental school (NYUCD, 1979-81). The students are
kept on a pretty short leash until we know they're ready. Disasters are
rare.
Steve
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There's quite a lag in the complex feedback loop controlling what
the trainee's hands are doing. A misjudgment or slip of the hand
and the damage is already done.
Anyway I meant the guinea pig reference only in the context that the
OP was willing to experiment on himself, and not necessarily as a
characterization of a teaching school.
Don
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345
medicine forum beginner
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| Posted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 11:28 pm Post subject:
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Don K <dk@dont_bother_me.com> wrote:
| Quote: | "345" <345@jjss.com.ru> wrote in message
news:44a2d659$0$12249$5a62ac22@per-qv1-newsreader-01.iinet.net.au...
If you want to be a guinea pig, go to a dental clinic where they're
training new dentists.
Those arent guinea pigs, they are supervised
much better than a new practising dentist is.
There are limits to what supervision can effectively control.
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Nope, in a properly run teaching operation, they dont get to
deal with members of the public until they have demonstrated
reasonable competance and they have to ask for assistence
when its something other than completely routine etc.
| Quote: | There's quite a lag in the complex feedback loop controlling what
the trainee's hands are doing. A misjudgment or slip of the hand
and the damage is already done.
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Using that terminally silly line, no one would ever get trained
and there would be plenty howling about the dud result they got.
| Quote: | Anyway I meant the guinea pig reference only in the context that the OP was willing to
experiment on himself, and not necessarily as a characterization of a teaching school.
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Its perfectly clear what that para of yours at the top is saying. |
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Stormin Mormon
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| Posted: Thu Jun 29, 2006 12:38 am Post subject:
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You're very kind. Nice to know I got it right.
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You can't shout down a troll.
You have to starve them.
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"Ron Peterson" <ron@shell.core.com> wrote in message
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Stormin Mormon wrote:
| Quote: | How about five bucks for the dental temp filling stuff? I've never
used it. But supposed to be similar to what dentists use to prep the
filling before the real filling. However, I think it's mostly for
cavities. Not for a piece broken off the edge.
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You're right. The stuff isn't strong enough to maintain a biting edge.
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Ron |
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