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Mark Probert
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 9:14 pm    Post subject: Re: Thimerosal in vaccines reduces incidence of autism Reply with quote

Jan Drew wrote:
Quote:
"Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
news:Nsxng.83$V27.10@fe09.lga...
Jan Drew wrote:
HCN wrote:

No, it was for political reasons and because of fearmongering.
A repeated lie.
While you may disagree, it is the truth.

No. It is NOT the truth. You lie. AGAIN.

No, Toots, I am not lying. That is the real reason it happened.



Quote:

[some of these may be no long available, one can easily see why


http://www.niaid.nih.gov/facts­heets/thimerosalqa.htm


Infectious Diseases (NIAID); The American Academy of Pediatrics; and vaccine
manufacturers agreed that thimerosal should be reduced or eliminated in
vaccines as a precautionary measure and to reduce exposure to mercury from
all sources. This decision was based on the various Federal guidelines for
methyl mercury exposure and the assumption that the health risks from methyl
and ethyl mercury were the same. More research is needed to determine if the
guidelines for methyl mercury are also appropriate guidelines for
thimerosal. NIAID thimerosal research focuses on better understanding what
happens to thimerosal once it is introduced in the body and how this
compares to current knowledge of methyl mercury pathways.


http://www.anomalous-images.com/news/news473.html


Thursday July 8 5:49 PM ET
Mercury to be removed from vaccines
NEW YORK, Jul 08 (Reuters Health) -- The US Public Health Service (PHS) and
the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) have asked vaccine manufacturers to
phase out a mercury-containing preservative that has been used in some
vaccines since the 1940s.
The preservative, thimerosal, has not been shown to harm children, but some
infants under age 6 months may be exposed to mercury levels in excess of
federal guidelines with the current recommended immunization schedule.
However, ``children who have received thimerosal-containing vaccines do not
need to be tested for mercury exposure,'' according to a joint AAP/PHS
statement.
Health officials advise parents to continue their children's immunization
programs, because the risk of not immunizing children far outweighs the
small risk posed by thimerosal.
``Terrible childhood diseases like whooping cough, bacterial meningitis,
polio and diphtheria are waiting for us to let our guard down,'' according
to a statement issued by Dr. David Satcher, the US. Surgeon General. ``The
risk of devastating childhood diseases from failure to vaccinate far
outweighs the minimal, if any, risk of exposure to cumulative levels of
mercury in vaccines.''
The joint AAP/PHS statement on thimerosal in vaccines appears in the July
9th Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR), the weekly publication of
the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in Atlanta, Georgia.
Stories from the MMWR are available at the CDC website, www.cdc.gov.
The report's authors note that European regulatory community reached similar
conclusions earlier this year.
In a statement, the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America
(PhRMA) note that while there is currently ``no clinical evidence that the
use of thimerosal has caused adverse health consequences, there is general
consensus that it would be preferable to eliminate thimerosal from vaccines
whenever possible. The vaccine industry is working closely with FDA and
other government agencies to meet this objective.''




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Peter Bowditch
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 9:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Thimerosal in vaccines reduces incidence of autism Reply with quote

jason@nospam.com (Jason Johnson) wrote:

Quote:
I should note that most anti-vac fearmongers will no longer be part of
that movement after thimerosal is removed from ALL vaccines and
medications.

That might just be a remote possibility if the anti-vac fearmongers
confined their fearmongering to vaccines containing thimerosal. As
they lie about and oppose all vaccinations, their whining and lying
will not stop while ever children are being protected. Just look at
the way they are opposing the vaccine against cervical cancer - no
hint of thimerosal. look at the opposition to MMR - no thimerosal in
that (although they will regularly lie and suggest there is).
--
Peter Bowditch aa #2243
The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au
To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com
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marcia
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Joined: 03 May 2006
Posts: 79

PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 9:38 pm    Post subject: Re: Thimerosal in vaccines reduces incidence of autism Reply with quote

Peter Bowditch wrote:
Quote:
jason@nospam.com (Jason Johnson) wrote:

I should note that most anti-vac fearmongers will no longer be part of
that movement after thimerosal is removed from ALL vaccines and
medications.

That might just be a remote possibility if the anti-vac fearmongers
confined their fearmongering to vaccines containing thimerosal. As
they lie about and oppose all vaccinations, their whining and lying
will not stop while ever children are being protected. Just look at
the way they are opposing the vaccine against cervical cancer - no
hint of thimerosal. look at the opposition to MMR - no thimerosal in
that (although they will regularly lie and suggest there is).
--
Peter Bowditch aa #2243
The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au
To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com


....and if they succeeded in having all vaccines removed from the
market, they would simply take up some other nutty cause. It's their
destiny.

You are now entering the 8th circle of Hell. Enjoy your visit. :)

marcia
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Jason
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Joined: 29 Apr 2005
Posts: 1119

PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 10:01 pm    Post subject: Re: Thimerosal in vaccines reduces incidence of autism Reply with quote

In article <prut9254hfe9fi3h64jnv7vl0t5sof1e0h@4ax.com>, Peter Bowditch
<myfirstname@ratbags.com> wrote:

jason@nospam.com (Jason Johnson) wrote:

Quote:
I should note that most anti-vac fearmongers will no longer be part of
that movement after thimerosal is removed from ALL vaccines and
medications.

That might just be a remote possibility if the anti-vac fearmongers
confined their fearmongering to vaccines containing thimerosal. As
they lie about and oppose all vaccinations, their whining and lying
will not stop while ever children are being protected. Just look at
the way they are opposing the vaccine against cervical cancer - no
hint of thimerosal. look at the opposition to MMR - no thimerosal in
that (although they will regularly lie and suggest there is).

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Peter,
I am a part of that "anti-vac" movement but it's because of thimerosal.
Once thimerosal is removed from all vaccines and medications, I will
no longer be a part of that movement. I also support efforts to make
it illegal for dentists to use mercury in dental fillings.
I know the medical reason why some people would continue to be part
of the "anti-vac" movement even if they stopped making use of
thimerosal in vaccines and medications. If you want to know the
medical reasons, read pages 63-72 of this book:
WHAT YOU MUST KNOW ABOUT STATIN DRUGS AND THEIR NATURAL ALTERNATIVES
by Jay S. Cohen, M.D.
It's related to the cytochrome 450 Enzyme system. The issue is too complex
to discuss in this post but upon request, I can copy a couple of sentences
from the book to explain why some people develop diseases as a result of
vaccines and medications.
This is one quote: ..."at the other extreme are the poor metabolizers who
have an inefficient CYP2D6 variant or NO CYP2D6 enzymes at all. These are
the people who tolerate only very low medication doses and who react
adversely, sometimes dangerously, to standand doses."
This may explain the opposition to MMR but am not sure.

Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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\"Jan Drew\"
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Joined: 02 Mar 2006
Posts: 353

PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 10:08 pm    Post subject: Re: Thimerosal in vaccines reduces incidence of autism Reply with quote

"Peter Bowditch" <myfirstname@ratbags.com> wrote
Quote:
jason@nospam.com (Jason Johnson) wrote:

I should note that most anti-vac fearmongers will no longer be part of
that movement after thimerosal is removed from ALL vaccines and
medications.

That might just be a remote possibility if the anti-vac fearmongers
confined their fearmongering to vaccines containing thimerosal. As
they lie about and oppose all vaccinations, their whining and lying
will not stop while ever children are being protected. Just look at
the way they are opposing the vaccine against cervical cancer - no
hint of thimerosal. look at the opposition to MMR - no thimerosal in
that (although they will regularly lie and suggest there is).
--
Peter Bowditch

Do prove they oppose all vacations. Show us!!

Then...prove and show us where anyone has recently lied and suggest there
is.

Comon now SHOW US!!!
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\"Jan Drew\"
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 10:12 pm    Post subject: Re: Thimerosal in vaccines reduces incidence of autism Reply with quote

"marcia" <design1@insight.rr.com> wrote in message
news:1151271503.062703.274370@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Quote:

Peter Bowditch wrote:
jason@nospam.com (Jason Johnson) wrote:

I should note that most anti-vac fearmongers will no longer be part of
that movement after thimerosal is removed from ALL vaccines and
medications.

That might just be a remote possibility if the anti-vac fearmongers
confined their fearmongering to vaccines containing thimerosal. As
they lie about and oppose all vaccinations, their whining and lying
will not stop while ever children are being protected. Just look at
the way they are opposing the vaccine against cervical cancer - no
hint of thimerosal. look at the opposition to MMR - no thimerosal in
that (although they will regularly lie and suggest there is).
--
Peter Bowditch aa #2243
The Millenium Project http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
Australian Council Against Health Fraud http://www.acahf.org.au
Australian Skeptics http://www.skeptics.com.au
To email me use my first name only at ratbags.com


...and if they succeeded in having all vaccines removed from the
market, they would simply take up some other nutty cause. It's their
destiny.

You are now entering the 8th circle of Hell. Enjoy your visit. :)

marcia

*The only people I belittle and attack are
those who belittle and attack other people*
>
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\"Jan Drew\"
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 10:15 pm    Post subject: Re: Thimerosal in vaccines reduces incidence of autism Reply with quote

"Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
news:n1Dng.1339$Ym7.670@fe12.lga...
Quote:
Jan Drew wrote:
"Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
news:Nsxng.83$V27.10@fe09.lga...
Jan Drew wrote:
HCN wrote:

No, it was for political reasons and because of fearmongering.
A repeated lie.
While you may disagree, it is the truth.

No. It is NOT the truth. You lie. AGAIN.

No, Toots, I am not lying. That is the real reason it happened.

I see you REPEATLY lie...AGAIN. Even though the real reason is posted
below.
Quote:




[some of these may be no long available, one can easily see why


http://www.niaid.nih.gov/facts­heets/thimerosalqa.htm


Infectious Diseases (NIAID); The American Academy of Pediatrics; and
vaccine
manufacturers agreed that thimerosal should be reduced or eliminated in
vaccines as a precautionary measure and to reduce exposure to mercury
from
all sources. This decision was based on the various Federal guidelines
for
methyl mercury exposure and the assumption that the health risks from
methyl
and ethyl mercury were the same. More research is needed to determine if
the
guidelines for methyl mercury are also appropriate guidelines for
thimerosal. NIAID thimerosal research focuses on better understanding
what
happens to thimerosal once it is introduced in the body and how this
compares to current knowledge of methyl mercury pathways.


http://www.anomalous-images.com/news/news473.html


Thursday July 8 5:49 PM ET
Mercury to be removed from vaccines
NEW YORK, Jul 08 (Reuters Health) -- The US Public Health Service (PHS)
and
the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) have asked vaccine manufacturers
to
phase out a mercury-containing preservative that has been used in some
vaccines since the 1940s.
The preservative, thimerosal, has not been shown to harm children, but
some
infants under age 6 months may be exposed to mercury levels in excess of
federal guidelines with the current recommended immunization schedule.
However, ``children who have received thimerosal-containing vaccines do
not
need to be tested for mercury exposure,'' according to a joint AAP/PHS
statement.
Health officials advise parents to continue their children's immunization
programs, because the risk of not immunizing children far outweighs the
small risk posed by thimerosal.
``Terrible childhood diseases like whooping cough, bacterial meningitis,
polio and diphtheria are waiting for us to let our guard down,''
according
to a statement issued by Dr. David Satcher, the US. Surgeon General.
``The
risk of devastating childhood diseases from failure to vaccinate far
outweighs the minimal, if any, risk of exposure to cumulative levels of
mercury in vaccines.''
The joint AAP/PHS statement on thimerosal in vaccines appears in the July
9th Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR), the weekly publication
of
the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in Atlanta, Georgia.
Stories from the MMWR are available at the CDC website, www.cdc.gov.
The report's authors note that European regulatory community reached
similar
conclusions earlier this year.
In a statement, the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America
(PhRMA) note that while there is currently ``no clinical evidence that
the
use of thimerosal has caused adverse health consequences, there is
general
consensus that it would be preferable to eliminate thimerosal from
vaccines
whenever possible. The vaccine industry is working closely with FDA and
other government agencies to meet this objective.''



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marcia
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Joined: 03 May 2006
Posts: 79

PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 10:58 pm    Post subject: Re: Thimerosal in vaccines reduces incidence of autism Reply with quote

Jan Drew wrote:
Quote:
"marcia" <design1@insight.rr.com> wrote in message
...and if they succeeded in having all vaccines removed from the
market, they would simply take up some other nutty cause. It's their
destiny.

You are now entering the 8th circle of Hell. Enjoy your visit. :)

marcia

*The only people I belittle and attack are
those who belittle and attack other people*


Actually, Jan, I wasn't even thinking of you when I wrote that. I was
thinking specifically about people who *have* attacked me, personally,
and have openly stated my opinions were invalid because of my bipolar
disorder.

I was thinking specifically of the people who use documents from the
19th-century to evaluate the safety of 21st-century medicine, and who
launch moronic attacks on anyone who challenges them.

You and I have had run-ins, and we disagree on this topic, but I was
under the impression we were currently in a state of detente.

Do you keep a searchable database of people's old posts? Smile
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cathyb
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Joined: 06 Jun 2005
Posts: 365

PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Thimerosal in vaccines reduces incidence of autism Reply with quote

Jan Drew wrote:
Quote:
"Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
news:n1Dng.1339$Ym7.670@fe12.lga...
Jan Drew wrote:
"Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
news:Nsxng.83$V27.10@fe09.lga...
Jan Drew wrote:
HCN wrote:

No, it was for political reasons and because of fearmongering.
A repeated lie.
While you may disagree, it is the truth.

No. It is NOT the truth. You lie. AGAIN.

No, Toots, I am not lying. That is the real reason it happened.

I see you REPEATLY lie...AGAIN. Even though the real reason is posted
below.

No, no Jan. That was not a lie. This is what a real lie told by an
expert, Jan Drew, looks like:

Jan Drew wrote:

(of the article "Stupid Skeptic Tricks"):

"I posted it with permission from the author."

Everyone knew it was a lie.

And look what the author said:

'As the author of "Stupid Skeptic Tricks," I can state unequivocally
that Jan Drew never requested or received permission to reprint or
repost the article from me. I was doing a bit of ego-surfing, and her
dishonesty pissed me off.'



Quote:




[some of these may be no long available, one can easily see why


http://www.niaid.nih.gov/facts­heets/thimerosalqa.htm


Infectious Diseases (NIAID); The American Academy of Pediatrics; and
vaccine
manufacturers agreed that thimerosal should be reduced or eliminated in
vaccines as a precautionary measure and to reduce exposure to mercury
from
all sources. This decision was based on the various Federal guidelines
for
methyl mercury exposure and the assumption that the health risks from
methyl
and ethyl mercury were the same. More research is needed to determine if
the
guidelines for methyl mercury are also appropriate guidelines for
thimerosal. NIAID thimerosal research focuses on better understanding
what
happens to thimerosal once it is introduced in the body and how this
compares to current knowledge of methyl mercury pathways.


http://www.anomalous-images.com/news/news473.html


Thursday July 8 5:49 PM ET
Mercury to be removed from vaccines
NEW YORK, Jul 08 (Reuters Health) -- The US Public Health Service (PHS)
and
the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) have asked vaccine manufacturers
to
phase out a mercury-containing preservative that has been used in some
vaccines since the 1940s.
The preservative, thimerosal, has not been shown to harm children, but
some
infants under age 6 months may be exposed to mercury levels in excess of
federal guidelines with the current recommended immunization schedule.
However, ``children who have received thimerosal-containing vaccines do
not
need to be tested for mercury exposure,'' according to a joint AAP/PHS
statement.
Health officials advise parents to continue their children's immunization
programs, because the risk of not immunizing children far outweighs the
small risk posed by thimerosal.
``Terrible childhood diseases like whooping cough, bacterial meningitis,
polio and diphtheria are waiting for us to let our guard down,''
according
to a statement issued by Dr. David Satcher, the US. Surgeon General.
``The
risk of devastating childhood diseases from failure to vaccinate far
outweighs the minimal, if any, risk of exposure to cumulative levels of
mercury in vaccines.''
The joint AAP/PHS statement on thimerosal in vaccines appears in the July
9th Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR), the weekly publication
of
the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in Atlanta, Georgia.
Stories from the MMWR are available at the CDC website, www.cdc.gov.
The report's authors note that European regulatory community reached
similar
conclusions earlier this year.
In a statement, the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America
(PhRMA) note that while there is currently ``no clinical evidence that
the
use of thimerosal has caused adverse health consequences, there is
general
consensus that it would be preferable to eliminate thimerosal from
vaccines
whenever possible. The vaccine industry is working closely with FDA and
other government agencies to meet this objective.''



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cathyb
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Joined: 06 Jun 2005
Posts: 365

PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 11:45 pm    Post subject: Re: Thimerosal in vaccines reduces incidence of autism Reply with quote

Jan Drew wrote:
Quote:
"Peter Bowditch" <myfirstname@ratbags.com> wrote
jason@nospam.com (Jason Johnson) wrote:

I should note that most anti-vac fearmongers will no longer be part of
that movement after thimerosal is removed from ALL vaccines and
medications.

That might just be a remote possibility if the anti-vac fearmongers
confined their fearmongering to vaccines containing thimerosal. As
they lie about and oppose all vaccinations, their whining and lying
will not stop while ever children are being protected. Just look at
the way they are opposing the vaccine against cervical cancer - no
hint of thimerosal. look at the opposition to MMR - no thimerosal in
that (although they will regularly lie and suggest there is).
--
Peter Bowditch

Do prove they oppose all vacations. Show us!!

Then...prove and show us where anyone has recently lied and suggest there
is.

Comon now SHOW US!!!

Good god, Jan, when are you going to take that remedial English course
and cease inflicting atrocities such as these on us?
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Rich
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 12:47 am    Post subject: Re: Thimerosal in vaccines reduces incidence of autism Reply with quote

"Jan Drew" <jdrew1374@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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Quote:

"Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
news:n1Dng.1339$Ym7.670@fe12.lga...
Jan Drew wrote:
"Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
news:Nsxng.83$V27.10@fe09.lga...
Jan Drew wrote:
HCN wrote:

No, it was for political reasons and because of fearmongering.
A repeated lie.
While you may disagree, it is the truth.

No. It is NOT the truth. You lie. AGAIN.

No, Toots, I am not lying. That is the real reason it happened.

I see you REPEATLY lie...AGAIN. Even though the real reason is posted
below.


Again, you are falsely accusing others of lying. When are you going to learn
that PROVEN liars like yourself are not to be heeded, and no matter how much
you stamp your feet and yell "liar, liar," nobody is going to believe you.
One would think that you would be embarrassed to repeatedly call attention
to your own dishonesty, but you obviously are incapable of introspection.

You are a liar and a thief. Admit it and repent.
--


--Rich

Recommended websites:

http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
http://www.acahf.org.au
http://www.quackwatch.org/
http://www.skeptic.com/
http://www.csicop.org/
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 1:15 am    Post subject: Re: Thimerosal in vaccines reduces incidence of autism Reply with quote

"marcia" <design1@insight.rr.com> wrote in message
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Quote:

Jan Drew wrote:
"marcia" <design1@insight.rr.com> wrote in message
...and if they succeeded in having all vaccines removed from the
market, they would simply take up some other nutty cause. It's their
destiny.

You are now entering the 8th circle of Hell. Enjoy your visit. :)

marcia

*The only people I belittle and attack are
those who belittle and attack other people*


Actually, Jan, I wasn't even thinking of you when I wrote that. I was
thinking specifically about people who *have* attacked me, personally,
and have openly stated my opinions were invalid because of my bipolar
disorder.

Uh huh.
Quote:

I was thinking specifically of the people who use documents from the
19th-century to evaluate the safety of 21st-century medicine, and who
launch moronic attacks on anyone who challenges them.

You and I have had run-ins, and we disagree on this topic, but I was
under the impression we were currently in a state of detente.

Do you keep a searchable database of people's old posts? Smile

Nope.
>
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 1:19 am    Post subject: Re: Thimerosal in vaccines reduces incidence of autism Reply with quote

"cathyb" wrote:

Jan Drew wrote:
Quote:
"Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
news:n1Dng.1339$Ym7.670@fe12.lga...
Jan Drew wrote:
"Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
news:Nsxng.83$V27.10@fe09.lga...
Jan Drew wrote:
HCN wrote:

No, it was for political reasons and because of fearmongering.
A repeated lie.
While you may disagree, it is the truth.

No. It is NOT the truth. You lie. AGAIN.

No, Toots, I am not lying. That is the real reason it happened.

I see you REPEATLY lie...AGAIN. Even though the real reason is posted
below.

No, no Jan. That was not a lie.

Yes, yes it was clearly a lie. The below proves it.

Quote:

[some of these may be no long available, one can easily see why


http://www.niaid.nih.gov/facts­heets/thimerosalqa.htm


Infectious Diseases (NIAID); The American Academy of Pediatrics; and
vaccine
manufacturers agreed that thimerosal should be reduced or eliminated in
vaccines as a precautionary measure and to reduce exposure to mercury
from
all sources. This decision was based on the various Federal guidelines
for
methyl mercury exposure and the assumption that the health risks from
methyl
and ethyl mercury were the same. More research is needed to determine
if
the
guidelines for methyl mercury are also appropriate guidelines for
thimerosal. NIAID thimerosal research focuses on better understanding
what
happens to thimerosal once it is introduced in the body and how this
compares to current knowledge of methyl mercury pathways.


http://www.anomalous-images.com/news/news473.html


Thursday July 8 5:49 PM ET
Mercury to be removed from vaccines
NEW YORK, Jul 08 (Reuters Health) -- The US Public Health Service (PHS)
and
the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) have asked vaccine
manufacturers
to
phase out a mercury-containing preservative that has been used in some
vaccines since the 1940s.
The preservative, thimerosal, has not been shown to harm children, but
some
infants under age 6 months may be exposed to mercury levels in excess
of
federal guidelines with the current recommended immunization schedule.
However, ``children who have received thimerosal-containing vaccines do
not
need to be tested for mercury exposure,'' according to a joint AAP/PHS
statement.
Health officials advise parents to continue their children's
immunization
programs, because the risk of not immunizing children far outweighs the
small risk posed by thimerosal.
``Terrible childhood diseases like whooping cough, bacterial
meningitis,
polio and diphtheria are waiting for us to let our guard down,''
according
to a statement issued by Dr. David Satcher, the US. Surgeon General.
``The
risk of devastating childhood diseases from failure to vaccinate far
outweighs the minimal, if any, risk of exposure to cumulative levels of
mercury in vaccines.''
The joint AAP/PHS statement on thimerosal in vaccines appears in the
July
9th Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR), the weekly
publication
of
the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in Atlanta,
Georgia.
Stories from the MMWR are available at the CDC website, www.cdc.gov.
The report's authors note that European regulatory community reached
similar
conclusions earlier this year.
In a statement, the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of
America
(PhRMA) note that while there is currently ``no clinical evidence that
the
use of thimerosal has caused adverse health consequences, there is
general
consensus that it would be preferable to eliminate thimerosal from
vaccines
whenever possible. The vaccine industry is working closely with FDA and
other government agencies to meet this objective.''



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 1:22 am    Post subject: Re: Thimerosal in vaccines reduces incidence of autism Reply with quote

"Rich wrote:
Quote:

"Jan Drew" <jdrew1374@sbcglobal.net> wrote in message
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"Mark Probert" <markprobert@lumbercartel.com> wrote in message
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Jan Drew wrote:
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Jan Drew wrote:
HCN wrote:

No, it was for political reasons and because of fearmongering.
A repeated lie.
While you may disagree, it is the truth.

No. It is NOT the truth. You lie. AGAIN.

No, Toots, I am not lying. That is the real reason it happened.

I see you REPEATLY lie...AGAIN. Even though the real reason is posted
below.


Again, you are falsely accusing others of lying.

I see you are lying again.

[some of these may be no long available, one can easily see why
Quote:


http://www.niaid.nih.gov/facts­heets/thimerosalqa.htm


Infectious Diseases (NIAID); The American Academy of Pediatrics; and
vaccine
manufacturers agreed that thimerosal should be reduced or eliminated in
vaccines as a precautionary measure and to reduce exposure to mercury
from
all sources. This decision was based on the various Federal guidelines
for
methyl mercury exposure and the assumption that the health risks from
methyl
and ethyl mercury were the same. More research is needed to determine if
the
guidelines for methyl mercury are also appropriate guidelines for
thimerosal. NIAID thimerosal research focuses on better understanding
what
happens to thimerosal once it is introduced in the body and how this
compares to current knowledge of methyl mercury pathways.


http://www.anomalous-images.com/news/news473.html


Thursday July 8 5:49 PM ET
Mercury to be removed from vaccines
NEW YORK, Jul 08 (Reuters Health) -- The US Public Health Service (PHS)
and
the American Academy of Pediatrics (AAP) have asked vaccine manufacturers
to
phase out a mercury-containing preservative that has been used in some
vaccines since the 1940s.
The preservative, thimerosal, has not been shown to harm children, but
some
infants under age 6 months may be exposed to mercury levels in excess of
federal guidelines with the current recommended immunization schedule.
However, ``children who have received thimerosal-containing vaccines do
not
need to be tested for mercury exposure,'' according to a joint AAP/PHS
statement.
Health officials advise parents to continue their children's immunization
programs, because the risk of not immunizing children far outweighs the
small risk posed by thimerosal.
``Terrible childhood diseases like whooping cough, bacterial meningitis,
polio and diphtheria are waiting for us to let our guard down,''
according
to a statement issued by Dr. David Satcher, the US. Surgeon General.
``The
risk of devastating childhood diseases from failure to vaccinate far
outweighs the minimal, if any, risk of exposure to cumulative levels of
mercury in vaccines.''
The joint AAP/PHS statement on thimerosal in vaccines appears in the July
9th Morbidity and Mortality Weekly Report (MMWR), the weekly publication
of
the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in Atlanta, Georgia.
Stories from the MMWR are available at the CDC website, www.cdc.gov.
The report's authors note that European regulatory community reached
similar
conclusions earlier this year.
In a statement, the Pharmaceutical Research and Manufacturers of America
(PhRMA) note that while there is currently ``no clinical evidence that
the
use of thimerosal has caused adverse health consequences, there is
general
consensus that it would be preferable to eliminate thimerosal from
vaccines
whenever possible. The vaccine industry is working closely with FDA and
other government agencies to meet this objective.''



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 26, 2006 1:49 am    Post subject: Re: Thimerosal in vaccines reduces incidence of autism Reply with quote

Quote:
That depends on the dose. Water is lethal if a person drinks way to much
(don't laugh, it has happened that toddlers have been damaged by
overdosing
on water).

Also, what would you rather have... a micro-dose of a preservative, or a
bunch of unwanted bacteria that can occur if the medication is not stored
properly (which often happens in more remote parts of the world). Here is

more information:
http://www.fda.gov/cber/vaccine/thimerosal.htm



Yeah. you are right. let's keep pumping our kids full of neurotoxin (an god
knows what else)--even for diseases that are relatively benign. I can't
wait until there are vaccines for the common cold, bad moods, gas, itches,
etc. This is becoming ludricrous when people start defending putting
mercury in people.
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