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Napoleon
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migraine, blood pressure, maybe cholesterol fixed but theres a small problem
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I am a caucasion male 50 years old.
I had a dr.'s checkup and lab tests one month ago that showed the
following problems:
blood pressure 150/90 - high
ldl cholesterol 240 (hdl was 40) - very high
weight 195 at 5'11" - doughy
and also i have been taking medications for a quite a while for
migraine (maxalt and lately relpax)
So the dr. suggested that we treat the blood pressure and cholesterol
aggressively because the cholesterol was at a frightening level and
these treatements have been known to put the migraines into remission
so now, for the last month, I am taking
Hydrochlorothiazide 25 - 1 per day
Vytorin 10/20 - 1 per day
after one month
blood pressure 90/60 - normal!
ldl cholesterol - not measured yet
weight 188 - slightly better
no migraines! (normally I would have had at least six with two of them
very bad)
I feel very, very good now - almost high all the time - occationally i
feel a tiny pain almost wanting to start on the side of my head only to
dissapear in a few seconds. Also I have very entertaining dreams now
which are more interesting than anything on cable TV. Miracles of
science! But all is not 100% good.
My one dissatisfaction: After a couple days on these pills I became
100% impotent! That is one sad sack penis I have right now ----
pfffffft => nothing ever and it doesn't seem to be getting any better.
I would like to know how to get my erections back but not my blood
pressure or migraines. Are these drugs going to cause a perpetually
limp member? Any ideas? If I can just occasionally get a decent
erection and maintain my other benefits ...what a utopia! |
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William Wagner
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Joined: 29 Apr 2005
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In article <1151004255.513562.287380@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>,
"Napoleon" <napoleon_mmvi@yahoo.com> wrote:
| Quote: | I am a caucasion male 50 years old.
I had a dr.'s checkup and lab tests one month ago that showed the
following problems:
blood pressure 150/90 - high
ldl cholesterol 240 (hdl was 40) - very high
weight 195 at 5'11" - doughy
and also i have been taking medications for a quite a while for
migraine (maxalt and lately relpax)
So the dr. suggested that we treat the blood pressure and cholesterol
aggressively because the cholesterol was at a frightening level and
these treatements have been known to put the migraines into remission
so now, for the last month, I am taking
Hydrochlorothiazide 25 - 1 per day
Vytorin 10/20 - 1 per day
after one month
blood pressure 90/60 - normal!
ldl cholesterol - not measured yet
weight 188 - slightly better
no migraines! (normally I would have had at least six with two of them
very bad)
I feel very, very good now - almost high all the time - occationally i
feel a tiny pain almost wanting to start on the side of my head only to
dissapear in a few seconds. Also I have very entertaining dreams now
which are more interesting than anything on cable TV. Miracles of
science! But all is not 100% good.
My one dissatisfaction: After a couple days on these pills I became
100% impotent! That is one sad sack penis I have right now ----
pfffffft => nothing ever and it doesn't seem to be getting any better.
I would like to know how to get my erections back but not my blood
pressure or migraines. Are these drugs going to cause a perpetually
limp member? Any ideas? If I can just occasionally get a decent
erection and maintain my other benefits ...what a utopia!
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I'd suggest playing with this. Put in you numbers and lower and
higher numbers.
Risk....?
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/heart-disease-risk/HB00047
Please note that a hard penis seems to relate to heart health.
Arteries are arteries still a heads up for your total health AKA
life..
I don't give a darn about cholesterol yet I try to get HDL up.
Exercise and Niacin for my adventure seem intelligent for me.
As for BP talk to your doc about diuretic options.
Bill
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S Jersey USA Zone 5 Shade
This article is posted under fair use rules in accordance with
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Peabody
medicine forum beginner
Joined: 27 Jun 2005
Posts: 33
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Napoleon says...
| Quote: | My one dissatisfaction: After a couple days on these
pills I became 100% impotent! That is one sad sack penis
I have right now ---- pfffffft => nothing ever and it
doesn't seem to be getting any better.
I would like to know how to get my erections back but
not my blood pressure or migraines. Are these drugs
going to cause a perpetually limp member? Any ideas? If
I can just occasionally get a decent erection and
maintain my other benefits ...what a utopia!
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I don't know about the Vytorin, but thiazide diuretics are
notorious for causing impotence, as are beta blockers. I
suggest you tell your doctor about the impotence, and ask
him to switch your blood pressure med to one of the classes
that is less likely to cause a problem - an ace inhibitor,
angiotensin receptor blocker, or calcium channel blocker.
I don't know what effect such a change would imply for your
migranes.
Also, your blood pressure doesn't have to be 90/60. That's
actually a good bit below normal.
For both of your meds, there are lots of alternatives. You
just may need to try a number of them to get the results you
want without unacceptable side effects. But that will
require you to keep the pressure on your doctor. In my
experience, your doctor won't mind that you're impotent
unless you make an issue of it. So you will have to put
your foot down on this one. |
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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Joined: 25 Mar 2005
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Napoleon wrote:
| Quote: | I am a caucasion male 50 years old.
I had a dr.'s checkup and lab tests one month ago that showed the
following problems:
blood pressure 150/90 - high
ldl cholesterol 240 (hdl was 40) - very high
weight 195 at 5'11" - doughy
and also i have been taking medications for a quite a while for
migraine (maxalt and lately relpax)
So the dr. suggested that we treat the blood pressure and cholesterol
aggressively because the cholesterol was at a frightening level and
these treatements have been known to put the migraines into remission
so now, for the last month, I am taking
Hydrochlorothiazide 25 - 1 per day
Vytorin 10/20 - 1 per day
after one month
blood pressure 90/60 - normal!
ldl cholesterol - not measured yet
weight 188 - slightly better
no migraines! (normally I would have had at least six with two of them
very bad)
I feel very, very good now - almost high all the time - occationally i
feel a tiny pain almost wanting to start on the side of my head only to
dissapear in a few seconds. Also I have very entertaining dreams now
which are more interesting than anything on cable TV. Miracles of
science! But all is not 100% good.
My one dissatisfaction: After a couple days on these pills I became
100% impotent! That is one sad sack penis I have right now ----
pfffffft => nothing ever and it doesn't seem to be getting any better.
I would like to know how to get my erections back but not my blood
pressure or migraines. Are these drugs going to cause a perpetually
limp member? Any ideas? If I can just occasionally get a decent
erection and maintain my other benefits ...what a utopia!
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Would suggest two things:
(1) Lose weight. For many impotence goes away with becoming leaner and
trimmer (and hungrier <-- healthy appetite). Would suggest you ask
your doctor to supervise your use of the 2PD-OMER Approach:
http://HeartMDPhD.com/wtloss.asp
(2) Inform your doctor about your impotence. There are medications
that should help until you become healthier, more fit, leaner and
trimmer when you may not need these medications anymore.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheLife |
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Thorsten Schier
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Joined: 29 Apr 2005
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William Wagner schrieb:
[...]
This gives some odd results. I always thought that being male was a risk
factor for heart disease. However, with this risk calculator you get a
considerably higher risk for females then for males if both have the
same other values. Could it be that they made an error and switched male
and female? Or are females only protected against heart disease because
they usually have better risk factors?
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Jim Chinnis
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Thorsten Schier <Finrod_Felagund@gmx.de> wrote in part:
| Quote: | William Wagner schrieb:
[...]
I'd suggest playing with this. Put in you numbers and lower and
higher numbers.
Risk....?
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/heart-disease-risk/HB00047
This gives some odd results. I always thought that being male was a risk
factor for heart disease. However, with this risk calculator you get a
considerably higher risk for females then for males if both have the
same other values. Could it be that they made an error and switched male
and female? Or are females only protected against heart disease because
they usually have better risk factors?
Thorsten
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What age did you enter?
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Thorsten Schier
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| Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 11:11 pm Post subject:
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Jim Chinnis schrieb:
| Quote: | Thorsten Schier <Finrod_Felagund@gmx.de> wrote in part:
William Wagner schrieb:
[...]
I'd suggest playing with this. Put in you numbers and lower and
higher numbers.
Risk....?
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/heart-disease-risk/HB00047
This gives some odd results. I always thought that being male was a risk
factor for heart disease. However, with this risk calculator you get a
considerably higher risk for females then for males if both have the
same other values. Could it be that they made an error and switched male
and female? Or are females only protected against heart disease because
they usually have better risk factors?
Thorsten
What age did you enter?
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Different ages. I always get higher risk values for females than for males.
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William Wagner
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Joined: 29 Apr 2005
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In article <e7f83h$df3$03$1@news.t-online.com>,
Thorsten Schier <Finrod_Felagund@gmx.de> wrote:
| Quote: | Jim Chinnis schrieb:
Thorsten Schier <Finrod_Felagund@gmx.de> wrote in part:
William Wagner schrieb:
[...]
I'd suggest playing with this. Put in you numbers and lower and
higher numbers.
Risk....?
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/heart-disease-risk/HB00047
This gives some odd results. I always thought that being male was a risk
factor for heart disease. However, with this risk calculator you get a
considerably higher risk for females then for males if both have the
same other values. Could it be that they made an error and switched male
and female? Or are females only protected against heart disease because
they usually have better risk factors?
Thorsten
What age did you enter?
Different ages. I always get higher risk values for females than for males.
Thorsten
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Yea but we only have one age. But those blood numbers can vary and my
point was risk is not impacted by those numbers in a linear way based
on this here info. Interesting and I wonder if we will ever see
handsome people speak of this on mass media.
Down with the bad and up with the good. So simplistic.
There may be copyright with this nonsense.
Bill
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S Jersey USA Zone 5 Shade
This article is posted under fair use rules in accordance with
Title 17 U.S.C. Section 107, and is strictly for the educational
and informative purposes. This material is distributed without profit. |
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Cindy Wells
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Joined: 23 Jun 2006
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Thorsten Schier <Finrod_Felagund@gmx.de> wrote in news:e7f6dp$irv$01$1
@news.t-online.com:
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This gives some odd results. I always thought that being male was a
risk
factor for heart disease. However, with this risk calculator you get a
considerably higher risk for females then for males if both have the
same other values. Could it be that they made an error and switched
male
and female? Or are females only protected against heart disease
because
they usually have better risk factors?
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Pre-menopause most women have lower heart disease risk but after
menopause that benefit disappears rapidly. Also, women tend to
be more pro-active on getting regular checkups and keeping their
weight down. (However, those women who got into yo-yo dieting
will have worse numbers IIRC.)
Cindy Wells
(whose maternal line now has heart disease and stroke on both sides
to go with the migraines (on grandma's side) and TIAs (on grandpa's
side); my paternal line disease risks are harder to asses - biological
grandfather died in the military and grandma didn't go to the doctor
for diagnoses in her later years.)
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gPeter
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90/60 for BP is a little "better" than normal. But I don't think it has
anything to do with your impotence.
gPeter
"Napoleon" <napoleon_mmvi@yahoo.com> az alábbiakat írta a következo
hírüzenetben: 1151004255.513562.287380@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | I am a caucasion male 50 years old.
I had a dr.'s checkup and lab tests one month ago that showed the
following problems:
blood pressure 150/90 - high
ldl cholesterol 240 (hdl was 40) - very high
weight 195 at 5'11" - doughy
and also i have been taking medications for a quite a while for
migraine (maxalt and lately relpax)
So the dr. suggested that we treat the blood pressure and cholesterol
aggressively because the cholesterol was at a frightening level and
these treatements have been known to put the migraines into remission
so now, for the last month, I am taking
Hydrochlorothiazide 25 - 1 per day
Vytorin 10/20 - 1 per day
after one month
blood pressure 90/60 - normal!
ldl cholesterol - not measured yet
weight 188 - slightly better
no migraines! (normally I would have had at least six with two of them
very bad)
I feel very, very good now - almost high all the time - occationally i
feel a tiny pain almost wanting to start on the side of my head only to
dissapear in a few seconds. Also I have very entertaining dreams now
which are more interesting than anything on cable TV. Miracles of
science! But all is not 100% good.
My one dissatisfaction: After a couple days on these pills I became
100% impotent! That is one sad sack penis I have right now ----
pfffffft => nothing ever and it doesn't seem to be getting any better.
I would like to know how to get my erections back but not my blood
pressure or migraines. Are these drugs going to cause a perpetually
limp member? Any ideas? If I can just occasionally get a decent
erection and maintain my other benefits ...what a utopia!
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Comax
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Napoleon wrote:
| Quote: | I am a caucasion male 50 years old.
I had a dr.'s checkup and lab tests one month ago that showed the
following problems:
blood pressure 150/90 - high
ldl cholesterol 240 (hdl was 40) - very high
weight 195 at 5'11" - doughy
and also i have been taking medications for a quite a while for
migraine (maxalt and lately relpax)
So the dr. suggested that we treat the blood pressure and cholesterol
aggressively because the cholesterol was at a frightening level and
these treatements have been known to put the migraines into remission
so now, for the last month, I am taking
Hydrochlorothiazide 25 - 1 per day
Vytorin 10/20 - 1 per day
after one month
blood pressure 90/60 - normal!
ldl cholesterol - not measured yet
weight 188 - slightly better
no migraines! (normally I would have had at least six with two of them
very bad)
I feel very, very good now - almost high all the time - occationally i
feel a tiny pain almost wanting to start on the side of my head only to
dissapear in a few seconds. Also I have very entertaining dreams now
which are more interesting than anything on cable TV. Miracles of
science! But all is not 100% good.
My one dissatisfaction: After a couple days on these pills I became
100% impotent! That is one sad sack penis I have right now ----
pfffffft => nothing ever and it doesn't seem to be getting any better.
I would like to know how to get my erections back but not my blood
pressure or migraines. Are these drugs going to cause a perpetually
limp member? Any ideas? If I can just occasionally get a decent
erection and maintain my other benefits ...what a utopia!
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Hi Napoleon
Unfortunately for you impotence is quite common. I suggest that you
read the book "The Cure of High Blood Pressure by Respiratory
Exercises" written mid-last century, and now available as an e-book on
www.cureofhighbloodpressure.com, and practice some of the techniques
suggested (with your Doctors knowledge of course!).
Hope this helps,
Good Health!
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Juhana Harju
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Napoleon wrote:
: I am a caucasion male 50 years old.
:
: I had a dr.'s checkup and lab tests one month ago that showed the
: following problems:
:
: blood pressure 150/90 - high
: ldl cholesterol 240 (hdl was 40) - very high
: weight 195 at 5'11" - doughy
:
: and also i have been taking medications for a quite a while for
: migraine (maxalt and lately relpax)
:
: So the dr. suggested that we treat the blood pressure and cholesterol
: aggressively because the cholesterol was at a frightening level and
: these treatements have been known to put the migraines into remission
: so now, for the last month, I am taking
:
: Hydrochlorothiazide 25 - 1 per day
: Vytorin 10/20 - 1 per day
:
: after one month
:
: blood pressure 90/60 - normal!
: ldl cholesterol - not measured yet
: weight 188 - slightly better
: no migraines! (normally I would have had at least six with two of them
: very bad)
:
: I feel very, very good now - almost high all the time - occationally i
: feel a tiny pain almost wanting to start on the side of my head only
: to dissapear in a few seconds. Also I have very entertaining dreams
: now which are more interesting than anything on cable TV. Miracles of
: science! But all is not 100% good.
:
: My one dissatisfaction: After a couple days on these pills I became
: 100% impotent! That is one sad sack penis I have right now ----
: pfffffft => nothing ever and it doesn't seem to be getting any better.
:
: I would like to know how to get my erections back but not my blood
: pressure or migraines. Are these drugs going to cause a perpetually
: limp member? Any ideas? If I can just occasionally get a decent
: erection and maintain my other benefits ...what a utopia!
Pomegranate juice might be a healthier alternative for blood pressure
lowering medications, most likely without any unpleasant adverse effects. In
an Israeli study below drinking pomegranate juice daily reduced systolic
blood pressure by 21 mmHg (not 21% as the abstract mistakenly states). That
would be enough in your case. Besides lowering blood pressure the juice
would also improve your antioxidant status considerably.
http://www.pomwonderful.com/pdf/clinical_nutrition.pdf
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GS
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"Peabody" <waybackNO874SPAM44@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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I don't know about the Vytorin, but thiazide diuretics are
notorious for causing impotence, as are beta blockers. I
suggest you tell your doctor about the impotence, and ask
him to switch your blood pressure med to one of the classes
that is less likely to cause a problem - an ace inhibitor,
angiotensin receptor blocker, or calcium channel blocker.
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As I read through the thread, I see Peabody beat me to this. I discussed
this in the long past with my Dr., and as he assisted greatly in my approach
to cure ED, I had said to him..."NO Thiazides or Beta Blockers". He was most
agreeable and sympathetic and we fought my hypertension as a team until back
in the 120/80 normal range.
Used an AT2 blocker and a Calcium Channel blocker. |
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Napoleon
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| Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 5:25 pm Post subject:
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William Wagner wrote:
| Quote: |
I'd suggest playing with this. Put in you numbers and lower and
higher numbers.
Risk....?
http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/heart-disease-risk/HB00047
Please note that a hard penis seems to relate to heart health.
Arteries are arteries still a heads up for your total health AKA
life..
I don't give a darn about cholesterol yet I try to get HDL up.
Exercise and Niacin for my adventure seem intelligent for me.
As for BP talk to your doc about diuretic options.
Bill
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It seems from that calculator that my cholesterol is far more of a
problem than the blood pressure.
It seem the consensus here is that it's the BP medicine that is causing
my problems. |
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Napoleon
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| Posted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 5:31 pm Post subject:
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Peabody wrote:
| Quote: | Napoleon says...
I don't know about the Vytorin, but thiazide diuretics are
notorious for causing impotence, as are beta blockers. I
suggest you tell your doctor about the impotence, and ask
him to switch your blood pressure med to one of the classes
that is less likely to cause a problem - an ace inhibitor,
angiotensin receptor blocker, or calcium channel blocker.
I don't know what effect such a change would imply for your
migranes.
Also, your blood pressure doesn't have to be 90/60. That's
actually a good bit below normal.
For both of your meds, there are lots of alternatives. You
just may need to try a number of them to get the results you
want without unacceptable side effects. But that will
require you to keep the pressure on your doctor. In my
experience, your doctor won't mind that you're impotent
unless you make an issue of it. So you will have to put
your foot down on this one
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Thanks, further confimation that its the BP medication. I think I'm
also going to try the weight loss approach along with asking about less
harsh medication in the mean time. I hope the problem isn't the Vytorin
because I'm pretty worried I won't be able to lower it enough just by
losing weight. |
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