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d whatever
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 8:40 pm    Post subject: Re: Born-again Christians Only. Reply with quote

"Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com> wrote in message
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"" God spoke all these words, saying: I am God your Lord, who brought
you
out of Egypt, from the place of slavery. Do not have any other gods before
Me.

Do not represent [such] gods by any carved statue or picture of anything
in
the heaven above, on the earth below, or in the water below the land. Do
not
bow down to [such gods] or worship them. I am God your Lord, a God who
demands exclusive worship. """"

So then even the capital G God admits to their being other gods .. so he was
not the ONLY god .. that's all . .personally I don't 'believe' in any of
that stuff. How could I ?? there are no answers that don't require faith ..
to have faith in something I have to have answers based on FACT .

EXAMPLE: If I just took my doctor and his test results as being TRUTHs .. I
would be eating McDonalds for dinner tonight....but I questioned him ..
questioned the lab results and then said the answer makes NO SENSE ..

END RESULT: Doctor was wrong .. labs were wrong .. I am a diabetic ...


Quote:

That couldn't be plainer. Assuming jesus actually existed, do you think
the
Romans would have executed him if he were ACTUALLY able to heal the sick
and
injured? That was a time with very little medical knowledge.

No one would kill a person who actually was able to heal the sick and
injured, much less bring back the dead.

"Jesus" was a fraud. You should be worshipping Benny Hinn - he has more
credibility than your current idol.

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OccamMan
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 8:46 pm    Post subject: Re: Born-again Christians Only. Reply with quote

"d whatever" <whatever@nowhere.com> wrote in message
news:D-WdnXleFuFTzAHZnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@giganews.com...
Quote:

"Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com> wrote in message
news:p9gmg.9024$lf4.8604@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
"" God spoke all these words, saying: I am God your Lord, who brought
you
out of Egypt, from the place of slavery. Do not have any other gods
before
Me.

Do not represent [such] gods by any carved statue or picture of anything
in
the heaven above, on the earth below, or in the water below the land. Do
not
bow down to [such gods] or worship them. I am God your Lord, a God who
demands exclusive worship. """"

So then even the capital G God admits to their being other gods .. so he
was not the ONLY god .. that's all . .personally I don't 'believe' in any
of that stuff. How could I ?? there are no answers that don't require
faith .. to have faith in something I have to have answers based on FACT .

EXAMPLE: If I just took my doctor and his test results as being TRUTHs ..
I would be eating McDonalds for dinner tonight....but I questioned him ..
questioned the lab results and then said the answer makes NO SENSE ..

END RESULT: Doctor was wrong .. labs were wrong .. I am a diabetic ...




And yet you probably have faith in the half-truths of Evolution.

Brent
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The Lord
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 9:40 pm    Post subject: Chung's private thread - stay out, heathens! Reply with quote

Andrew B. Chung wrote:
Quote:
Why should I answer any more of your questions when you have been
unwilling to answer the following simple question:

Are you able to publicly confess that Jesus Christ is your LORD, your
Savior, and your GOD?


Answer: NO. There is no "God", and IF Jesus existed, he's been dead for
almost 2000 years.

Question answered.

Now answer outsor@city-net.net's questions, which *I* will re-ask now:

You, in the past, said the AMA list was "fine" as to your profile which
lists 3 hospitals. When called, those hospitals said you were not
listed; one said you had requested listing but were not. Now you say
the hospitals are not disclosed; which is it? Is the AMA list correct
or is it not for current visiting privileges?
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Barry
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 9:59 pm    Post subject: Re: Born-again Christians Only. Reply with quote

"d whatever" <whatever@nowhere.com> wrote in
news:D-WdnXleFuFTzAHZnZ2dnUVZ_v6dnZ2d@giganews.com:

Quote:

"Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com> wrote in message
news:p9gmg.9024$lf4.8604@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
"" God spoke all these words, saying: I am God your Lord, who brought
you
out of Egypt, from the place of slavery. Do not have any other gods
before Me.

Do not represent [such] gods by any carved statue or picture of
anything in
the heaven above, on the earth below, or in the water below the land.
Do not
bow down to [such gods] or worship them. I am God your Lord, a God who
demands exclusive worship. """"

So then even the capital G God admits to their being other gods .. so he
was not the ONLY god .. that's all . .personally I don't 'believe' in
any of that stuff. How could I ?? there are no answers that don't
require faith .. to have faith in something I have to have answers based
on FACT .

EXAMPLE: If I just took my doctor and his test results as being TRUTHs
.. I would be eating McDonalds for dinner tonight....but I questioned
him .. questioned the lab results and then said the answer makes NO
SENSE ..

END RESULT: Doctor was wrong .. labs were wrong .. I am a diabetic ...



That couldn't be plainer. Assuming jesus actually existed, do you
think the
Romans would have executed him if he were ACTUALLY able to heal the
sick and
injured? That was a time with very little medical knowledge.

No one would kill a person who actually was able to heal the sick and
injured, much less bring back the dead.

"Jesus" was a fraud. You should be worshipping Benny Hinn - he has more
credibility than your current idol.





Born again my ass you stupid twat, it's all bullshit. Screw it up and throw it down the throne where it
belongs.
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Phred
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 11:06 pm    Post subject: Re: OT: Born-again Christians Only. Reply with quote

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Quote:
Don Kirkman wrote:

It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
article <1151011090.786929.198100@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:

Don Kirkman wrote:

It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
article <1150978023.943881.303270@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>:

My CV does not include everything about me.

For example, my hospital privileges are not included.

Exactly where do you have hospital privileges?

If I wished to personally disclose this information on the Internet
medium, it would be listed on my on-line CV.

If I understand the GCMB's site correctly you have a legal obligation to
provide accurate information that pertains to your availability to serve
patients.


And I have. Exactly where I hospitalize my patients does not pertain to
**my** ability to serve my patients.


The rationale is the same as for my office address, my church address,
et cetera.

These are different; they are not part of your medical qualifications.


And where I hospitalize my patients are not part of my medical
qualifications.


Church address in particular is irrelevant.


Just as other locations were I might be at any given moment.


Moreover, you are likely in the wrong thread, Don.

This is rich, considering you constantly post in the wrong **groups**.


Without the LORD, your opinion is meaningless (Ecclesiastes).


Do you think you own a thread just because you have stuck a silly
subject on it?


No. However, as the person who started this thead it should be
understandable to any reasonable person if I should direct the
discussion as I have.
OK, I'll answer your questions.

Are you reasonable?
Yes I believe I am.


Are you able to publicly confess that Jesus Christ is your LORD, your
Savior, and your GOD ?
No.


Now, do you have hospital privileges?
Quote:

If your answer is "yes", please do so here in this thread which started
with the following online article:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheWay

Do you have hospital privileges?


Why should I answer you if you are unable to answer me ?

Now, please kindly run along.

Come back when you are able to answer the question asked of you
otherwise forget about my answering yours.

Still praying for you, dear Don.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheLife
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 11:22 pm    Post subject: Re: OT: Born-again Christians Only. Reply with quote

Phred wrote:
Quote:
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Don Kirkman wrote:
It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
article <1151011090.786929.198100@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
Don Kirkman wrote:
It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
article <1150978023.943881.303270@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>:

My CV does not include everything about me.

For example, my hospital privileges are not included.

Exactly where do you have hospital privileges?

If I wished to personally disclose this information on the Internet
medium, it would be listed on my on-line CV.

If I understand the GCMB's site correctly you have a legal obligation to
provide accurate information that pertains to your availability to serve
patients.

And I have. Exactly where I hospitalize my patients does not pertain to
**my** ability to serve my patients.

The rationale is the same as for my office address, my church address,
et cetera.

These are different; they are not part of your medical qualifications.

And where I hospitalize my patients are not part of my medical
qualifications.

Church address in particular is irrelevant.

Just as other locations were I might be at any given moment.

Moreover, you are likely in the wrong thread, Don.

This is rich, considering you constantly post in the wrong **groups**.

Without the LORD, your opinion is meaningless (Ecclesiastes).

Do you think you own a thread just because you have stuck a silly
subject on it?

No. However, as the person who started this thead it should be
understandable to any reasonable person if I should direct the
discussion as I have.
OK, I'll answer your questions.

Are you reasonable?
Yes I believe I am.

Are you able to publicly confess that Jesus Christ is your LORD, your
Savior, and your GOD ?
No.

Now, do you have hospital privileges?

Yes.

Now, back to what this thread is actually about:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheWay

You will be in my prayers, dear neighbor

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheLife
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Phred
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 1:50 am    Post subject: Re: OT: Born-again Christians Only. Reply with quote

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Quote:
Phred wrote:

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

Don Kirkman wrote:

It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
article <1151011090.786929.198100@b68g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:

Don Kirkman wrote:

It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
article <1150978023.943881.303270@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com>:

My CV does not include everything about me.

For example, my hospital privileges are not included.

Exactly where do you have hospital privileges?

If I wished to personally disclose this information on the Internet
medium, it would be listed on my on-line CV.

If I understand the GCMB's site correctly you have a legal obligation to
provide accurate information that pertains to your availability to serve
patients.

And I have. Exactly where I hospitalize my patients does not pertain to
**my** ability to serve my patients.


The rationale is the same as for my office address, my church address,
et cetera.

These are different; they are not part of your medical qualifications.

And where I hospitalize my patients are not part of my medical
qualifications.


Church address in particular is irrelevant.

Just as other locations were I might be at any given moment.


Moreover, you are likely in the wrong thread, Don.

This is rich, considering you constantly post in the wrong **groups**.

Without the LORD, your opinion is meaningless (Ecclesiastes).


Do you think you own a thread just because you have stuck a silly
subject on it?

No. However, as the person who started this thead it should be
understandable to any reasonable person if I should direct the
discussion as I have.

OK, I'll answer your questions.

Are you reasonable?

Yes I believe I am.

Are you able to publicly confess that Jesus Christ is your LORD, your
Savior, and your GOD ?

No.

Now, do you have hospital privileges?


Yes.
Thank you for clearing that up.

Now, back to what this thread is actually about:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheWay

You will be in my prayers, dear neighbor

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheLife
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Al
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Posts: 385

PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 2:12 pm    Post subject: Chung Lies AGAIN! Reply with quote

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

Quote:

Now, do you have hospital privileges?

Yes.


LIAR
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Salty Dog
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 4:02 am    Post subject: Re: OT: Born-again Christians Only. Reply with quote

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Quote:
http://tinyurl.com/mxwcv

There is no such thing as a closet Christian who claims that s/he has
accepted Christ but is unable to publicly confess that Jesus Christ is
their LORD, their Savior, and their GOD.

Of course there is you moron. Ever heard of a deaf and dumb Christian?

Quote:

All glory and praise to LORD GOD Almighty, Whom I love with all my
heart, soul, mind, and strength.

Bullshit, all you love is the attention you get from being a
controversial, wanking Christian and a failed doctor. You are to
Christianity what prostitution is to romantic love, both involve fucking
someone but one is private, personal and meaningful and the other is
public and for person gain. Guess which you are.

Quote:

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

I'd be bloody amazed if Christ didn't feel nauseous at the mention of
your name. You do him more damage than hundreds of ordinary sinners. You
turn people against him because they despise what you do while claiming
it is in his name. Satan must really love you, you are so effectively
working for his cause.

I had a dream the other day that I should find you and punish you. I
think that it was dream although maybe it was a message from God.

If it was, do you think that I should obey it?

Be honest now.


Salty - (David)
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Brother Gene
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 5:08 am    Post subject: Re: OT: Born-again Christians Only. (Sorry, No Exceptions) Reply with quote

On 23 Jun 2006 03:10:45 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote:

Quote:
No, this is not your thread even if you are able to force your way into
this thread.

This (alt.support.diabetes) is an unmoderated newsgroup, and I presume
the others you spammed are as well. What that means to you is that it
isn't YOUR thread either, silly.

[annoying, insubstansive drivel snipped]

Quote:
Now, please kindly depart for you do not belong in this thread.

Make me!
[crossing arms and looking threatening]

Please answer a question, as I am curious after reading many of your
posts. Is it your intention to make non-Christians even less
interested in associating with Christians (or people like you who
claim to be Christians), or do you drive people away from Christianity
out of ignorance and a total lack of understanding of human nature?

Be well, travel with a light heart and a low A1c

Gene Goldman
T2
Metformin, Actos, Lizard Spit

Give me NutraSweet over peanuts any day!
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 12:41 pm    Post subject: Re: OT: Born-again Christians Only. (Sorry, No Exceptions) Reply with quote

Rob wrote:
Quote:
In message <1151088282.926899.223780@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> writes
Rob wrote:
In message <1150921026.127889.252820@r2g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>,
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam7@heartmdphd.com> writes
outsor@citynet.net wrote:
In article <1150913446.006097.51660@p79g2000cwp.googlegroups.com>,
Andrew wrote:
http://tinyurl.com/mxwcv

New working link:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheWay

There is no such thing as a closet Christian who claims that s/he has
accepted Christ but is unable to publicly confess that Jesus Christ is
their LORD, their Savior, and their GOD.

What part of the subject of this thread do you not understand?

Perhaps he was just being OT.

Bloody irritating, isn't it?

No.

You will be in my prayers, dear Rob.

Since you accord this blessing to everyone who irritates you (yes, I
know you lied)

(No, still praying for you, dear Rob)

Quote:
and since most people you meet are proud to be in that
category, I'm surprised you have time to post with so much praying to
do.

The LORD gives extra time to those HE blesses.

Quote:
Rob
--
Rob Evans

When I see a swine
I reach for 45-calibre pearls.

The discerning know that to opine that certain people are swine is to
have judged them.

Yes, will continue to pray for you, dear Rob.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheLife
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 12:41 pm    Post subject: Re: OT: Born-again Christians Only. (Sorry, No Exceptions) Reply with quote

Brother Gene wrote:
Quote:
On 23 Jun 2006 03:10:45 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote:

No, this is not your thread even if you are able to force your way into
this thread.

This (alt.support.diabetes) is an unmoderated newsgroup, and I presume
the others you spammed are as well.

This is not spam.

Source: http://www.m-w.com

Quote:
What that means to you is that it isn't YOUR thread either, silly.

Did not claim that it was. However, I did write the OP that started
this thread.

Quote:
[annoying, insubstansive drivel snipped]

Sorry, the content of my post bothers you so terribly. Please forgive
all my inquities.

Quote:
Now, please kindly depart for you do not belong in this thread.

Make me!
[crossing arms and looking threatening]

It is LORD GOD Almighty Who has already made you.

Quote:

Please answer a question, as I am curious after reading many of your
posts. Is it your intention to make non-Christians even less
interested in associating with Christians (or people like you who
claim to be Christians), or do you drive people away from Christianity
out of ignorance and a total lack of understanding of human nature?

There can be no truthful answers to untruthful questions.

The LORD's purpose for me here remains to inform and not to either
attract or drive away people from born-again Christians such as the
young lady described in the recent article of interest:

http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheWay

Quote:
Be well, travel with a light heart and a low A1c

You will be in my prayers, dear Gene.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheLife
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Al
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 2:14 pm    Post subject: MORE CHUNG BULLSHIT Reply with quote

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Quote:
Brother Gene wrote:


Please answer a question, as I am curious after reading many of your
posts. Is it your intention to make non-Christians even less
interested in associating with Christians (or people like you who
claim to be Christians), or do you drive people away from Christianity
out of ignorance and a total lack of understanding of human nature?


And Chung replies:
Quote:
There can be no truthful answers to untruthful questions.


Anyone buying this TOTAL CHUNG BULL s**t EVASIVENESS?
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 2:47 pm    Post subject: Exorcise Chunkers Reply with quote

"Brother Gene" <brgene@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:t66s92p2dkke7tre805pa8te319vo3ciui@4ax.com...
Quote:
On 23 Jun 2006 03:10:45 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote:

No, this is not your thread even if you are able to force your way into
this thread.

This (alt.support.diabetes) is an unmoderated newsgroup, and I presume
the others you spammed are as well. What that means to you is that it
isn't YOUR thread either, silly.

[annoying, insubstansive drivel snipped]

Now, please kindly depart for you do not belong in this thread.

Make me!
[crossing arms and looking threatening]

Please answer a question, as I am curious after reading many of your
posts. Is it your intention to make non-Christians even less
interested in associating with Christians (or people like you who
claim to be Christians), or do you drive people away from Christianity
out of ignorance and a total lack of understanding of human nature?

Yes, your getting close to the truth now...

Chung is actually the Satanic Demon Ecifer, who has been making Philip hear
schizophrenic type "voices", and has been doing the internet version of the
same thing by posting in newsgroups.

What is needed now, is an internet exorcism of Chung. We need ideas on how
this should be done.
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 25, 2006 4:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Exorcise Chunkers Reply with quote

Put him in your killfile as I have done.

I only see responses to his postings.

--
Delboy

A common mistake that people made when trying to design something completely
foolproof was to underestimate the ingenuity of complete fools.

Douglas Adams
"Kurt Gavin" <dontbother@ignore.com> wrote in message
news:6mxng.1032$NP4.724@newsread1.news.pas.earthlink.net...
Quote:

"Brother Gene" <brgene@gmail.com> wrote in message
news:t66s92p2dkke7tre805pa8te319vo3ciui@4ax.com...
On 23 Jun 2006 03:10:45 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote:

No, this is not your thread even if you are able to force your way into
this thread.

This (alt.support.diabetes) is an unmoderated newsgroup, and I presume
the others you spammed are as well. What that means to you is that it
isn't YOUR thread either, silly.

[annoying, insubstansive drivel snipped]

Now, please kindly depart for you do not belong in this thread.

Make me!
[crossing arms and looking threatening]

Please answer a question, as I am curious after reading many of your
posts. Is it your intention to make non-Christians even less
interested in associating with Christians (or people like you who
claim to be Christians), or do you drive people away from Christianity
out of ignorance and a total lack of understanding of human nature?

Yes, your getting close to the truth now...

Chung is actually the Satanic Demon Ecifer, who has been making Philip
hear
schizophrenic type "voices", and has been doing the internet version of
the
same thing by posting in newsgroups.

What is needed now, is an internet exorcism of Chung. We need ideas on how
this should be done.




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