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Kumar
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 Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 1:55 am Post subject:
Can nutrients be addictive?
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Hello,
"Sugar addiction is a popular term for the situation where individuals
crave sweet foods, and find them impossible to give up. There is
clearly an aspect of psychological addiction, but recent research has
also identified elements of physical dependence:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar_addiction "
When a diabetic2 peson have persistent much elevated hyperglycemia, can
it cause some morphological changes or make that person as addictive or
dependent of high glucose levels? If yes, Will there be withdrawl
symptoms on sudden control of BG levels--harmful or causing uneasiness?
Whether other nutrients can also behave similarily?
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Mr-Natural-Health
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| Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 11:48 am Post subject:
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kumar wrote:
| Quote: | Hello,
"Sugar addiction is a popular term for the situation where individuals
crave sweet foods, and find them impossible to give up. There is
clearly an aspect of psychological addiction, but recent research has
also identified elements of physical dependence:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar_addiction "
When a diabetic2 peson have persistent much elevated hyperglycemia, can
it cause some morphological changes or make that person as addictive or
dependent of high glucose levels? If yes, Will there be withdrawl
symptoms on sudden control of BG levels--harmful or causing uneasiness?
Whether other nutrients can also behave similarily?
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Question: Do Kooks ever die, or fade away quietly?
Sugar is NOT a nutrient under any definition of the term. :(
Just thought that you might want to know.
http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/sugar.html
--
John Gohde,
Achieving good Nutrition is an Art, NOT a Science!
The nutrition of eating a healthy diet is a biological factor of the
mind-body connection. Now, weighing in at 18 web pages, the
Nutrition of a Healthy Diet is with more documentation and
sharper terminology than ever before.
http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/ |
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Kumar
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Re: Can nutrients be addictive?
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johngohde@naturalhealthperspective.com wrote:
| Quote: | kumar wrote:
Hello,
"Sugar addiction is a popular term for the situation where individuals
crave sweet foods, and find them impossible to give up. There is
clearly an aspect of psychological addiction, but recent research has
also identified elements of physical dependence:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar_addiction "
When a diabetic2 peson have persistent much elevated hyperglycemia, can
it cause some morphological changes or make that person as addictive or
dependent of high glucose levels? If yes, Will there be withdrawl
symptoms on sudden control of BG levels--harmful or causing uneasiness?
Whether other nutrients can also behave similarily?
Question: Do Kooks ever die, or fade away quietly?
Sugar is NOT a nutrient under any definition of the term. 
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Ok, you can consider six nutrient's grops (I think oxygen one
more)--Carbs, fats, protiens, minerals, vitamis and water. Can their
excesses make us addictive or dependent?
| Quote: | Just thought that you might want to know.
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I want to understand can their be toxicities, addiction or dependence
of nutrients esp. carbs, fats protiens, water and O2, if exposed in
excess to tissues( not in blood)?
Rest I will read at rest. Thanks for links.
| Quote: | http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/sugar.html
--
John Gohde,
Achieving good Nutrition is an Art, NOT a Science!
The nutrition of eating a healthy diet is a biological factor of the
mind-body connection. Now, weighing in at 18 web pages, the
Nutrition of a Healthy Diet is with more documentation and
sharper terminology than ever before.
http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/ |
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TC
medicine forum Guru
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| Posted: Wed Jun 21, 2006 8:35 pm Post subject:
Re: Can nutrients be addictive?
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Kumar wrote:
| Quote: | johngohde@naturalhealthperspective.com wrote:
kumar wrote:
Hello,
"Sugar addiction is a popular term for the situation where individuals
crave sweet foods, and find them impossible to give up. There is
clearly an aspect of psychological addiction, but recent research has
also identified elements of physical dependence:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar_addiction "
When a diabetic2 peson have persistent much elevated hyperglycemia, can
it cause some morphological changes or make that person as addictive or
dependent of high glucose levels? If yes, Will there be withdrawl
symptoms on sudden control of BG levels--harmful or causing uneasiness?
Whether other nutrients can also behave similarily?
Question: Do Kooks ever die, or fade away quietly?
Sugar is NOT a nutrient under any definition of the term. :(
Ok, you can consider six nutrient's grops (I think oxygen one
more)--Carbs, fats, protiens, minerals, vitamis and water. Can their
excesses make us addictive or dependent?
Just thought that you might want to know.
I want to understand can their be toxicities, addiction or dependence
of nutrients esp. carbs, fats protiens, water and O2, if exposed in
excess to tissues( not in blood)?
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I doubt it. Real nutrition (real food) is something that the body can
consume and either utilize it or excrete what it cannot utilize with
little or no adverse effects.
The next question is what is real food or real nutrition? Real meats,
real whole and fresh produce, clean air and water as well. Foods that
we evolved on as an organism thruout the millions of years of our
evolution.
What is not real food? Food that we did not evolve on as an organism.
Soy, margarine, pure sugar, high fructose corn syrup, refined white
flour, preservatives, flavouring agents, chemical thickeners, powdered
soups, powdered gravies, selectively and genetically modified produce,
RTE cereals, etc.
TC |
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Jim Chinnis
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"TC" <tunderbar@hotmail.com> wrote in part:
| Quote: | What is not real food? Food that we did not evolve on as an organism.
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There is virtually nothing to eat, then. Hardly anything available today was
around even 10,000 years ago, and hardly anything that was around then isn't
now. Every type of fruit and produce we grow has been genetically shaped
over hundreds of years to be sweeter, less fibrous, and easier to grow, not
to mention the increased shelf life.
Shot any wild boar that have fed on the natural flora of 10,000 years ago?
Maybe the closest you could come would be to eat some wild birds, probably
leaving nothing but the feathers and bones.
Honey has been around a hell of a long time. We haven't tinkered with bees
much, but the bees do feed on different flora now.
Maybe you could do okay in the Amazon rain forest.
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Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA jchinnis@alum.mit.edu |
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Mr-Natural-Health
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| Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 12:04 am Post subject:
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Kumar wrote:
| Quote: | johngohde@naturalhealthperspective.com wrote:
kumar wrote:
Hello,
"Sugar addiction is a popular term for the situation where individuals
crave sweet foods, and find them impossible to give up. There is
clearly an aspect of psychological addiction, but recent research has
also identified elements of physical dependence:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar_addiction "
When a diabetic2 peson have persistent much elevated hyperglycemia, can
it cause some morphological changes or make that person as addictive or
dependent of high glucose levels? If yes, Will there be withdrawl
symptoms on sudden control of BG levels--harmful or causing uneasiness?
Whether other nutrients can also behave similarily?
Question: Do Kooks ever die, or fade away quietly?
Sugar is NOT a nutrient under any definition of the term. :(
Ok, you can consider six nutrient's grops (I think oxygen one
more)--Carbs, fats, protiens, minerals, vitamis and water. Can their
excesses make us addictive or dependent?
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So, you are claiming that a person can be additicted to eating food?
A few people in the USA during the 19th century managed to starve to
death when they attempted to prove that they did not need food to
survive. They called them Breatharians.
So, I guess that means people cannot be addicted to food?
IMNO, a nutrient is something that contains no caloric value in most
cases like vitamin B-12, zinc, calcium and magnesium.
Hence, your query as stated is rather absurd, even though a lot of
people are indeed addicted to sugar, caffeine, and salt in their diet.
But, I would never classify sugar as a nutrient. |
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Gordon Burditt
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Re: Can nutrients be addictive?
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| Quote: | Ok, you can consider six nutrient's grops (I think oxygen one
more)--Carbs, fats, protiens, minerals, vitamis and water. Can their
excesses make us addictive or dependent?
So, you are claiming that a person can be additicted to eating food?
A few people in the USA during the 19th century managed to starve to
death when they attempted to prove that they did not need food to
survive. They called them Breatharians.
So, I guess that means people cannot be addicted to food?
IMNO, a nutrient is something that contains no caloric value in most
cases like vitamin B-12, zinc, calcium and magnesium.
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According to wordreference.com:
nutrient (noun): any substance that can be metabolized by an organism
to give energy and build tissue.
That makes carbs, fats, and proteins nutrients. I'll argue that
anything that HAS caloric value that can be digested is a nutrient,
especially "junk food".
| Quote: | Hence, your query as stated is rather absurd, even though a lot of
people are indeed addicted to sugar, caffeine, and salt in their diet.
But, I would never classify sugar as a nutrient.
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Gordon L. Burditt |
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Kumar
medicine forum Guru
Joined: 10 May 2005
Posts: 870
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| Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 1:22 am Post subject:
Re: Can nutrients be addictive?
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johngohde@naturalhealthperspective.com wrote:
| Quote: | Kumar wrote:
johngohde@naturalhealthperspective.com wrote:
kumar wrote:
Hello,
"Sugar addiction is a popular term for the situation where individuals
crave sweet foods, and find them impossible to give up. There is
clearly an aspect of psychological addiction, but recent research has
also identified elements of physical dependence:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar_addiction "
When a diabetic2 peson have persistent much elevated hyperglycemia, can
it cause some morphological changes or make that person as addictive or
dependent of high glucose levels? If yes, Will there be withdrawl
symptoms on sudden control of BG levels--harmful or causing uneasiness?
Whether other nutrients can also behave similarily?
Question: Do Kooks ever die, or fade away quietly?
Sugar is NOT a nutrient under any definition of the term. :(
Ok, you can consider six nutrient's grops (I think oxygen one
more)--Carbs, fats, protiens, minerals, vitamis and water. Can their
excesses make us addictive or dependent?
So, you are claiming that a person can be additicted to eating food?
A few people in the USA during the 19th century managed to starve to
death when they attempted to prove that they did not need food to
survive. They called them Breatharians.
So, I guess that means people cannot be addicted to food?
IMNO, a nutrient is something that contains no caloric value in most
cases like vitamin B-12, zinc, calcium and magnesium.
Hence, your query as stated is rather absurd, even though a lot of
people are indeed addicted to sugar, caffeine, and salt in their diet.
But, I would never classify sugar as a nutrient.
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"A nutrient is any element or compound necessary for or contributing to
an organism's metabolism, growth, or other functioning. Six nutrient
groups exist, classifiable as those that provide energy and as those
that otherwise support metabolic processes in the body:Some of them are
essential because they cannot be synthesized in the body and must be
obtained from a food source.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutrients ".
Apart from these O2 can also be thought as nutrient.
Pls read following quotes.
""Local blood flow control can be divided into two phases;
1)Acute - rapid change constriction/dilatation of arteriols,
metarteriol et spincters.
2)Long-term control provides a better control by increasing/decreasing
the physical size and number of blood vessels supplying the tissues. "
""From "Text book of Medical physiology by Guyton & Hall
"Long term regulation of blood flow is esp. important when metabolic
demands of tissue change. Thus, if a tisue become chronicallt
overactive and therefore require chronicaly increased quantity of
oxygen and other nutrients, the blood vessels usually increase within
few weeks almost to match needs of the the tissues--unless the
circulatory system has become pathological too old to repond.
The mechanism of long term local blood flow regulation is principally
to change the degree of vascularity of the tissues. For instance; if
metabolism in in a given tissue is increased for a prolonged time
vascularity increases; if the metabolism is decreased, vascularity
decreases. Thus there is reconstruction of the tissue vasculature to
meet the needs of the tissues. The reconstruction occurs rapidly(within
days) in exteremely young animals. It also occurs rapidly in new groth
tissue, such as scar tissue and cancerous tissue; however it occurs
much more slowly in old, well established tissues.
Oxygen is important not only for acute but also long term control of
local blood flow. One example of this in to increase in vascularity in
the tissues of animals that live on high altitudes, where the
atmospheric oxygen is low. A second example is that fetel chicks
hatched in low oxygen have upto twice as muchblood vessel conductivity
as is normally true. This same effect is also dramatically demonstrated
in premature human babies who are put on oxygen tents for therapeutic
purposes. The excess O2 causes almost immediate cesstion of new
vascular growth in the retina of the premature baby's eyes and even
causes degenaration of some of the capillaries that already have
formed. Then when the infant is taken out of the o2 tent, there is
explosive overgroth of new vessels to make up for the sudden decrease
in available oxygen; indeed, there is often so much overgroth that
vessels grow into the eye's vitreous humor and eventuall cause
blindness. (This condition is called "retrolental fibroplasia"). ""
Can't excessive nutrients establish long term blood flow controls by
increasing/decreasing
the physical size and number of blood vessels supplying the tissues and
withdrawl symptoms apear on controling nutrients uptake due to
reversing established long term local blood flow regulations? |
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Kumar
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| Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 1:24 am Post subject:
Re: Can nutrients be addictive?
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johngohde@naturalhealthperspective.com wrote:
| Quote: | Kumar wrote:
johngohde@naturalhealthperspective.com wrote:
kumar wrote:
Hello,
"Sugar addiction is a popular term for the situation where individuals
crave sweet foods, and find them impossible to give up. There is
clearly an aspect of psychological addiction, but recent research has
also identified elements of physical dependence:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar_addiction "
When a diabetic2 peson have persistent much elevated hyperglycemia, can
it cause some morphological changes or make that person as addictive or
dependent of high glucose levels? If yes, Will there be withdrawl
symptoms on sudden control of BG levels--harmful or causing uneasiness?
Whether other nutrients can also behave similarily?
Question: Do Kooks ever die, or fade away quietly?
Sugar is NOT a nutrient under any definition of the term. :(
Ok, you can consider six nutrient's grops (I think oxygen one
more)--Carbs, fats, protiens, minerals, vitamis and water. Can their
excesses make us addictive or dependent?
So, you are claiming that a person can be additicted to eating food?
A few people in the USA during the 19th century managed to starve to
death when they attempted to prove that they did not need food to
survive. They called them Breatharians.
So, I guess that means people cannot be addicted to food?
IMNO, a nutrient is something that contains no caloric value in most
cases like vitamin B-12, zinc, calcium and magnesium.
Hence, your query as stated is rather absurd, even though a lot of
people are indeed addicted to sugar, caffeine, and salt in their diet.
But, I would never classify sugar as a nutrient.
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johngohde@naturalhealthperspective.com wrote:
| Quote: | Kumar wrote:
johngohde@naturalhealthperspective.com wrote:
kumar wrote:
Hello,
"Sugar addiction is a popular term for the situation where individuals
crave sweet foods, and find them impossible to give up. There is
clearly an aspect of psychological addiction, but recent research has
also identified elements of physical dependence:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar_addiction "
When a diabetic2 peson have persistent much elevated hyperglycemia, can
it cause some morphological changes or make that person as addictive or
dependent of high glucose levels? If yes, Will there be withdrawl
symptoms on sudden control of BG levels--harmful or causing uneasiness?
Whether other nutrients can also behave similarily?
Question: Do Kooks ever die, or fade away quietly?
Sugar is NOT a nutrient under any definition of the term. :(
Ok, you can consider six nutrient's grops (I think oxygen one
more)--Carbs, fats, protiens, minerals, vitamis and water. Can their
excesses make us addictive or dependent?
So, you are claiming that a person can be additicted to eating food?
A few people in the USA during the 19th century managed to starve to
death when they attempted to prove that they did not need food to
survive. They called them Breatharians.
So, I guess that means people cannot be addicted to food?
IMNO, a nutrient is something that contains no caloric value in most
cases like vitamin B-12, zinc, calcium and magnesium.
Hence, your query as stated is rather absurd, even though a lot of
people are indeed addicted to sugar, caffeine, and salt in their diet.
But, I would never classify sugar as a nutrient.
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"A nutrient is any element or compound necessary for or contributing to
an organism's metabolism, growth, or other functioning. Six nutrient
groups exist, classifiable as those that provide energy and as those
that otherwise support metabolic processes in the body:Some of them are
essential because they cannot be synthesized in the body and must be
obtained from a food source.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nutrients ".
Apart from these O2 can also be thought as nutrient.
Pls read following quotes.
""Local blood flow control can be divided into two phases;
1)Acute - rapid change constriction/dilatation of arteriols,
metarteriol et spincters.
2)Long-term control provides a better control by increasing/decreasing
the physical size and number of blood vessels supplying the tissues. "
""From "Text book of Medical physiology by Guyton & Hall
"Long term regulation of blood flow is esp. important when metabolic
demands of tissue change. Thus, if a tisue become chronicallt
overactive and therefore require chronicaly increased quantity of
oxygen and other nutrients, the blood vessels usually increase within
few weeks almost to match needs of the the tissues--unless the
circulatory system has become pathological too old to repond.
The mechanism of long term local blood flow regulation is principally
to change the degree of vascularity of the tissues. For instance; if
metabolism in in a given tissue is increased for a prolonged time
vascularity increases; if the metabolism is decreased, vascularity
decreases. Thus there is reconstruction of the tissue vasculature to
meet the needs of the tissues. The reconstruction occurs rapidly(within
days) in exteremely young animals. It also occurs rapidly in new groth
tissue, such as scar tissue and cancerous tissue; however it occurs
much more slowly in old, well established tissues.
Oxygen is important not only for acute but also long term control of
local blood flow. One example of this in to increase in vascularity in
the tissues of animals that live on high altitudes, where the
atmospheric oxygen is low. A second example is that fetel chicks
hatched in low oxygen have upto twice as muchblood vessel conductivity
as is normally true. This same effect is also dramatically demonstrated
in premature human babies who are put on oxygen tents for therapeutic
purposes. The excess O2 causes almost immediate cesstion of new
vascular growth in the retina of the premature baby's eyes and even
causes degenaration of some of the capillaries that already have
formed. Then when the infant is taken out of the o2 tent, there is
explosive overgroth of new vessels to make up for the sudden decrease
in available oxygen; indeed, there is often so much overgroth that
vessels grow into the eye's vitreous humor and eventuall cause
blindness. (This condition is called "retrolental fibroplasia"). ""
Can't excessive nutrients establish long term blood flow controls by
increasing/decreasing
the physical size and number of blood vessels supplying the tissues and
withdrawl symptoms apear on controling nutrients uptake due to
reversing established long term local blood flow regulations? |
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Kumar
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Gordon Burditt wrote:
| Quote: | Ok, you can consider six nutrient's grops (I think oxygen one
more)--Carbs, fats, protiens, minerals, vitamis and water. Can their
excesses make us addictive or dependent?
So, you are claiming that a person can be additicted to eating food?
A few people in the USA during the 19th century managed to starve to
death when they attempted to prove that they did not need food to
survive. They called them Breatharians.
So, I guess that means people cannot be addicted to food?
IMNO, a nutrient is something that contains no caloric value in most
cases like vitamin B-12, zinc, calcium and magnesium.
According to wordreference.com:
nutrient (noun): any substance that can be metabolized by an organism
to give energy and build tissue.
That makes carbs, fats, and proteins nutrients. I'll argue that
anything that HAS caloric value that can be digested is a nutrient,
especially "junk food".
Hence, your query as stated is rather absurd, even though a lot of
people are indeed addicted to sugar, caffeine, and salt in their diet.
But, I would never classify sugar as a nutrient.
Gordon L. Burditt
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TC, Jim, Sordon,
Pls read my reply to johngohde@naturalhealthperspective.com 's post. |
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Mr-Natural-Health
medicine forum Guru
Joined: 01 May 2005
Posts: 1807
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| Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 2:38 am Post subject:
Re: Can nutrients be addictive?
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Kumar wrote:
| Quote: | Gordon Burditt wrote:
Ok, you can consider six nutrient's grops (I think oxygen one
more)--Carbs, fats, protiens, minerals, vitamis and water. Can their
excesses make us addictive or dependent?
So, you are claiming that a person can be additicted to eating food?
A few people in the USA during the 19th century managed to starve to
death when they attempted to prove that they did not need food to
survive. They called them Breatharians.
So, I guess that means people cannot be addicted to food?
IMNO, a nutrient is something that contains no caloric value in most
cases like vitamin B-12, zinc, calcium and magnesium.
According to wordreference.com:
nutrient (noun): any substance that can be metabolized by an organism
to give energy and build tissue.
That makes carbs, fats, and proteins nutrients. I'll argue that
anything that HAS caloric value that can be digested is a nutrient,
especially "junk food".
Hence, your query as stated is rather absurd, even though a lot of
people are indeed addicted to sugar, caffeine, and salt in their diet.
But, I would never classify sugar as a nutrient.
Gordon L. Burditt
TC, Jim, Sordon,
Pls read my reply to johngohde@naturalhealthperspective.com 's post.
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Kumar should be classified as a Twit, rather than as a Kook. Nor, is
Kumar a Science Geek. Just call Kumar by his proper name, Twit.
http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/faddism.html
Thanks in part to Kumar, I was able to make my first update to my
published research on the Kooks who inhabit smn since 2002. Let us all
hear it for, Kumar!
Ha, ... Hah, Ha! |
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Mr-Natural-Health
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| Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 2:45 am Post subject:
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Gordon Burditt wrote:
| Quote: | Ok, you can consider six nutrient's grops (I think oxygen one
more)--Carbs, fats, protiens, minerals, vitamis and water. Can their
excesses make us addictive or dependent?
So, you are claiming that a person can be additicted to eating food?
A few people in the USA during the 19th century managed to starve to
death when they attempted to prove that they did not need food to
survive. They called them Breatharians.
So, I guess that means people cannot be addicted to food?
IMNO, a nutrient is something that contains no caloric value in most
cases like vitamin B-12, zinc, calcium and magnesium.
According to wordreference.com:
nutrient (noun): any substance that can be metabolized by an organism
to give energy and build tissue.
That makes carbs, fats, and proteins nutrients. I'll argue that
anything that HAS caloric value that can be digested is a nutrient,
especially "junk food".
Hence, your query as stated is rather absurd, even though a lot of
people are indeed addicted to sugar, caffeine, and salt in their diet.
But, I would never classify sugar as a nutrient.
Gordon L. Burditt
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Gordon Burditt should be clearly classified as a science Geek.
As I clearly play the role of a Quack on smn, I will stick to my
original assertion. No way, would I ever call sugar an important
nutrient on the same level of vitamin B-12.
Imagine, the science Geeks have just now figured out that people are
addicted to sugar.
Maybe with a few more degrees behind their belts, they might
accidentally discover what us Quacks knew over 100 years ago? Nah!!!
You Geeks have my condolences. |
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Mr-Natural-Health
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Posts: 1807
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| Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 2:53 am Post subject:
Re: Can nutrients be addictive?
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kumar wrote:
| Quote: | Hello,
"Sugar addiction is a popular term for the situation where individuals
crave sweet foods, and find them impossible to give up. There is
clearly an aspect of psychological addiction, but recent research has
also identified elements of physical dependence:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sugar_addiction "
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Ooooh! Now, I remember you. You are the same Twit that has been
polluting these ngs for years with your inane questions and babling.
Hmn, ... You might be a science Geek after all. :(
It called the mind-body connection, otherwise known as the
Biopsychosocial Model of Disease.
http://naturalhealthperspective.com/tutorials/glossary.html
Just thought that the Geek might want to know. |
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Kumar
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| Posted: Thu Jun 22, 2006 3:29 am Post subject:
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Kumar wrote:
| Quote: | Gordon Burditt wrote:
Ok, you can consider six nutrient's grops (I think oxygen one
more)--Carbs, fats, protiens, minerals, vitamis and water. Can their
excesses make us addictive or dependent?
So, you are claiming that a person can be additicted to eating food?
A few people in the USA during the 19th century managed to starve to
death when they attempted to prove that they did not need food to
survive. They called them Breatharians.
So, I guess that means people cannot be addicted to food?
IMNO, a nutrient is something that contains no caloric value in most
cases like vitamin B-12, zinc, calcium and magnesium.
According to wordreference.com:
nutrient (noun): any substance that can be metabolized by an organism
to give energy and build tissue.
That makes carbs, fats, and proteins nutrients. I'll argue that
anything that HAS caloric value that can be digested is a nutrient,
especially "junk food".
Hence, your query as stated is rather absurd, even though a lot of
people are indeed addicted to sugar, caffeine, and salt in their diet.
But, I would never classify sugar as a nutrient.
Gordon L. Burditt
TC, Jim, Sordon,
Pls read my reply to johngohde@naturalhealthperspective.com 's post.
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More to add:-
"Vitamin poisoning, or hypervitaminosis, refers to a condition of high
storage levels of vitamins, which can lead to toxic symptoms. The
medical names of the different conditions are derived from the vitamin
involved: an excess of vitamin A, for example, is called
"hypervitaminosis A".
High dosage vitamin A, high dosage, slow release vitamin B3 and very
high dosage vitamin B6 alone without vitamin B complex are sometimes
associated with vitamin side effects that usually rapidly cease with
supplement reduction or cessation. Conversely, certain vitamins do not
produce toxicity in excess levels. Vitamin C has been used in dosages
over 100,000 mg for serious illness [1] - over 1000 times the daily
recommended intake - without ill effects. Vitamin C does have a
pronounced laxative effect, typically in the range of 5-20 grams per
day for a person in normal "good health".
High doses of mineral supplements can also lead to side effects and
toxicity. Mineral supplement poisoning does occur occasionally due to
excessive and unusual intake of iron containing supplements, including
some multivitamins. Hypervitaminosis with multivitamins is uncommon.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vitamin_poisoning " |
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Kumar
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Re: Can nutrients be addictive?
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Mr. Natural-Health wrote:
| Quote: | Kumar wrote:
Gordon Burditt wrote:
Ok, you can consider six nutrient's grops (I think oxygen one
more)--Carbs, fats, protiens, minerals, vitamis and water. Can their
excesses make us addictive or dependent?
So, you are claiming that a person can be additicted to eating food?
A few people in the USA during the 19th century managed to starve to
death when they attempted to prove that they did not need food to
survive. They called them Breatharians.
So, I guess that means people cannot be addicted to food?
IMNO, a nutrient is something that contains no caloric value in most
cases like vitamin B-12, zinc, calcium and magnesium.
According to wordreference.com:
nutrient (noun): any substance that can be metabolized by an organism
to give energy and build tissue.
That makes carbs, fats, and proteins nutrients. I'll argue that
anything that HAS caloric value that can be digested is a nutrient,
especially "junk food".
Hence, your query as stated is rather absurd, even though a lot of
people are indeed addicted to sugar, caffeine, and salt in their diet.
But, I would never classify sugar as a nutrient.
Gordon L. Burditt
TC, Jim, Sordon,
Pls read my reply to johngohde@naturalhealthperspective.com 's post.
Kumar should be classified as a Twit, rather than as a Kook. Nor, is
Kumar a Science Geek. Just call Kumar by his proper name, Twit.
http://naturalhealthperspective.com/food/faddism.html
Thanks in part to Kumar, I was able to make my first update to my
published research on the Kooks who inhabit smn since 2002. Let us all
hear it for, Kumar!
Ha, ... Hah, Ha!
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"Metabolic disruptor
A metabolic disruptor is a food or food ingredient that disrupts the
body chemistry and puts the system out of homeostasis. Common metabolic
disruptors include sugar, white flour, hydrogenated oils, certain
chemical additives, some artificial sweeteners, and drugs such as
caffeine. ."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Metabolic_disruptor
Body's mechanism may be doing something to protect from metabolic
disruptor or from excesses of nutrients. How?? |
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