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Mr-Natural-Health
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Joined: 01 May 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 9:25 pm    Post subject: Re: Can nutrients be addictive? Reply with quote

marcia wrote:
Quote:
Doc John wrote:

No, Doc John, Mr. Natural-Health, and John Gohde et al., it doesn't
make *me* the one with the problem. It means *you* are trying to
mislead people by posting to the same thread under three different
names in order to make it appear that more people agree with you than
actually do. IOW, you're attempting to form a false consensus.

Your defensiveness supports this theory. You wouldn't have initially
*denied the truth*, and then gotten angry and called me names if you
didn't know you were caught being deceitful. Your response is typical
of someone who's been caught in a lie.

That your ISP and Usenet permits you to use more than one account
doesn't change the fact that you're doing so to mislead people.

Call me whatever you like; the history of your behavior shows you to be
sociopathic. You've made a wise choice in confessing. I'm done
investigating you now.

Have a nice day. Smile

Not only what I am doing is NOT illegal, it is an option that is
obviously being encouraged by my service provider.

So, mind your own damn business. And, I don't mind saying so.

Just thought that you might want to know.
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marcia
medicine forum addict


Joined: 03 May 2006
Posts: 79

PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 9:39 pm    Post subject: Re: Can nutrients be addictive? Reply with quote

Mr. Natural-Health wrote:

Quote:
Not only what I am doing is NOT illegal, it is an option that is
obviously being encouraged by my service provider.

I see, so it's your service-provider's idea for you to lie to and
mislead people? And here I thought you figured that out on your own.
Wouldn't want to take responsibility for your own behavior, would you?
LOL.


Quote:
So, mind your own damn business. And, I don't mind saying so.

There is no such thing as an assumption of privacy on Usenet. Anything
you post here, and anything you make available through public records,
is public business. And anything you write in an open forum is
potentially subject to comment by another user, whether you like it or
not. If you want privacy, use email.

Personally, I think the fact that you're trying to con people is
*EVERYONE'S* business. That's why I posted the information. It speaks
directly to your credibility--or lack thereof.


Quote:
Just thought that you might want to know.'

I don't care. This is becoming tedious.
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Mr-Natural-Health
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PostPosted: Fri Jun 23, 2006 10:19 pm    Post subject: Re: Can nutrients be addictive? Reply with quote

marcia wrote:
Quote:
There is no such thing as an assumption of privacy on Usenet. Anything
you post here, and anything you make available through public records,
is public business. And anything you write in an open forum is
potentially subject to comment by another user, whether you like it or
not. If you want privacy, use email.

I think that anybody, such as yourself, who displays such obvious
mental problems as you are displaying should seek the services of a
shrink.

I can manage my subscriptions to Google Groups any time I feel like it,
because Google has seen fit to give me that option.

Why are you using a totally out of date newsgroup service? In other
words, Marcia owns the problem.

Just thought that you might want to wake up before it is too late.

Try minding your own business, once and a while too. :)

You have my condolences.
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Kumar
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Joined: 10 May 2005
Posts: 870

PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 7:46 am    Post subject: Re: Can nutrients be addictive? Reply with quote

We should be bothered about informations and we should be able to
process it as per our need. How a person gives such information should
not bother us. So just consider informations not person/s.

It looks that this thread is completely derailed, so I may prefer to
post other thread. Here you may just pass time by this and that type of
talks. Bye here.
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Kumar
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 11:11 am    Post subject: Re: Can nutrients be addictive? Reply with quote

TC wrote:
Quote:
Jim Chinnis wrote:
"TC" <tunderbar@hotmail.com> wrote in part:

What is not real food? Food that we did not evolve on as an organism.

There is virtually nothing to eat, then. Hardly anything available today was
around even 10,000 years ago, and hardly anything that was around then isn't
now. Every type of fruit and produce we grow has been genetically shaped
over hundreds of years to be sweeter, less fibrous, and easier to grow, not
to mention the increased shelf life.

Shot any wild boar that have fed on the natural flora of 10,000 years ago?
Maybe the closest you could come would be to eat some wild birds, probably
leaving nothing but the feathers and bones.

Honey has been around a hell of a long time. We haven't tinkered with bees
much, but the bees do feed on different flora now.

Maybe you could do okay in the Amazon rain forest.
--
Jim Chinnis Warrenton, Virginia, USA jchinnis@alum.mit.edu

Well, if you want to get extreme, go ahead. I won't argue such
silliness.

We did not evolve eating vegetable oils like canola and margarine. We
did not evolve eating soy. We did not evolve eating high fructose corn
syrup or even refined white sugar. We did not evolve eating 60% of our
calories as refined grain products. We did not evolve eating
hydrogenated vegetable oils. No preservatives, no antibiotics, no
artificial thickening agents, no binding agents, no powdered or
chemical flavouring agents.

We did evolve eating real animal fats and real animal proteins and real
whole fresh produce and real fresh unpasteurized dairy and real fresh
eggs etc.

For hundreds of thousands of years we evolved eating animal fats and
proteins, and in the 21st century when the food industry develops all
of these new foods, all of a sudden, animals fats and proteins are evil
and the new artificial products become health foods. Talk about
bass-ackwards thinking. And we bought into it, literally and
figuratively.

And in spite of the wide spread consumption of these "healthy" grains
and soybeans and margarine and hfcs-laden "lite" low fat foods, and our
reduction of consumption of dangerous red meats and pork and chicken
skin (too fatty eh) we have never been more obese and more riddled with
diabetes, heart disease and other chronic diseases.

TC

TC sorry, but getting evolved and getting resistences is one concept
which may need genetic changes (irreversible?) BUT getting addictions,
dependances, tolerances etc. is other concept, which may be independant
of genetic changes upto some extent(reversible upto some extent?). So
pls reply in these considerations.
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italiangm
medicine forum beginner


Joined: 31 May 2006
Posts: 31

PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 1:30 pm    Post subject: Re: Can nutrients be addictive? Reply with quote

Kumar wrote:

Quote:
Body's mechanism may be doing something to protect from metabolic
disruptor or from excesses of nutrients. How??

Why do you pose questions then answer them yourself? This behavior
seems irrational and unproductive.

Why not state your hypotheses along with your evidence and leave it at
that?
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Kumar
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Posts: 870

PostPosted: Sat Jun 24, 2006 1:50 pm    Post subject: Re: Can nutrients be addictive? Reply with quote

italiangm wrote:
Quote:
Kumar wrote:

Body's mechanism may be doing something to protect from metabolic
disruptor or from excesses of nutrients. How??

Why do you pose questions then answer them yourself? This behavior
seems irrational and unproductive.

Why not state your hypotheses along with your evidence and leave it at
that?

Sorry, actually, I study and discuss many things. I get some thought
provakations and unclarities during such studies and discussions. I
post for the sake of getting clarities and indicating those
provokations. Still I go on reading and searching anwsers on internet,
in bllks etc. Sometimes I get some awnsers, which I post here for final
clarities. These can't be considered as hypotheses. Since, I remain in
field by discussions, so many new things are added into me.
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