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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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Joined: 25 Mar 2005
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 Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 7:04 am Post subject:
Marana tha !
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nym-shifter wrote:
| Quote: | http://www.ministerturnsatheist.org/
From your source:
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-- Begin Cite --
"In heart, I have always been a bit of a rationalist, even back then. I
felt the need
for compelling evidence to back up a claim, especially in a world of
religions
where so many flimflam artists are at work. So it bothered me when I
heard others
express the "just have faith" aspect of religion. Others, most people,
in fact,
weren't like me. They didn't care like I did if a claim made sense or
not. If their
parents said it, if the bible said it, if they had heard it for a long
enough time, then
it was true, period. I kept trying to understand why the faith of most
people wasn't
as urgent a thing to them as my faith was to me. This led me to believe
even
more so that I was truly converted and most of those around me were
not. But
even among my own brethren, so many seemed to not be as flexible with
their
views as I thought they should be. Very few of them would stick their
necks out in
an argument like I would and put their faith on the line: "Prove to me
that my
religion is wrong and I'll convert to the right one tonight." I didn't
see this attitude
very often and this worried me."
-- End Cite --
This man reminds me of the archetypal atheist "doubting" Thomas who
wanted "compelling evidence" that Jesus had resurrected HIMSELF after
hearing from his fellow disciples that they had seen HIM in the flesh.
It is written that Thomas stated that he needed to put his fingers in
the holes of Jesus' hands and his hand into HIS side before he would
believe the Christ had indeed risen.
"My LORD **and** my GOD !" -- Thomas upon seeing the risen Jesus
Christ.
We are saved by our faith in LORD Jesus Christ. Where there is doubt
there can be no faith no matter how much rational thought and Bible
study.
Those who are saved through faith in LORD Jesus Christ have HIS peace
which is one that passes all worldly understanding. In Christ, there
are no worries.
All praise and glory to LORD GOD Almighty, Whom I love with all my
heart, soul, mind, and strength.
Still praying for your tortured soul, dear nym-shifting neighbor.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/m3gnu |
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ªºª rrock
medicine forum beginner
Joined: 15 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 7:32 am Post subject:
Re: Marana tha !
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
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Cardinal Numbaz
medicine forum Guru
Joined: 05 Dec 2005
Posts: 323
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| Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:17 pm Post subject:
Re: Marana tha !
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
| Quote: | nym-shifter wrote:
http://www.ministerturnsatheist.org/
From your source:
-- Begin Cite --
"In heart, I have always been a bit of a rationalist, even back then. I
felt the need
for compelling evidence to back up a claim, especially in a world of
religions
where so many flimflam artists are at work. So it bothered me when I
heard others
express the "just have faith" aspect of religion. Others, most people,
in fact,
weren't like me. They didn't care like I did if a claim made sense or
not. If their
parents said it, if the bible said it, if they had heard it for a long
enough time, then
it was true, period. I kept trying to understand why the faith of most
people wasn't
as urgent a thing to them as my faith was to me. This led me to believe
even
more so that I was truly converted and most of those around me were
not. But
even among my own brethren, so many seemed to not be as flexible with
their
views as I thought they should be. Very few of them would stick their
necks out in
an argument like I would and put their faith on the line: "Prove to me
that my
religion is wrong and I'll convert to the right one tonight." I didn't
see this attitude
very often and this worried me."
-- End Cite --
This man reminds me of the archetypal atheist "doubting" Thomas who
wanted "compelling evidence" that Jesus had resurrected HIMSELF after
hearing from his fellow disciples that they had seen HIM in the flesh.
It is written that Thomas stated that he needed to put his fingers in
the holes of Jesus' hands and his hand into HIS side before he would
believe the Christ had indeed risen.
"My LORD **and** my GOD !" -- Thomas upon seeing the risen Jesus
Christ.
We are saved by our faith in LORD Jesus Christ. Where there is doubt
there can be no faith no matter how much rational thought and Bible
study.
Those who are saved through faith in LORD Jesus Christ have HIS peace
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Which is why you are such a venomous troll. I see!
| Quote: | which is one that passes all worldly understanding. In Christ, there
are no worries.
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IOW, your entire belief system rests on the logical fallacy of special
pleading, which is an attempt to negate reason itself by claiming it is
not universally applicable.
Translation: Even basic reasoning is too abstruse for you, so you have
to resort to intellectual hucksterism and semantic banditry in order to
sustain your point of view. Fine! Just don't expect to be met with
anything but derision from those of us who are genuinely - as you put
it - discerning. |
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Al
medicine forum Guru
Joined: 08 Jun 2005
Posts: 385
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| Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 12:17 pm Post subject:
Re: Marana tha !
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
It doesn't matter, he's one sick lying spamming bastard. |
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JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to
medicine forum Guru
Joined: 28 Nov 2005
Posts: 1072
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Re: Marana tha !
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
| Quote: | nym-shifter wrote:
http://www.ministerturnsatheist.org/
From your source:
-- Begin Cite --
"In heart, I have always been a bit of a rationalist, even back then. I
felt the need
for compelling evidence to back up a claim, especially in a world of
religions
where so many flimflam artists are at work. So it bothered me when I
heard others
express the "just have faith" aspect of religion. Others, most people,
in fact,
weren't like me. They didn't care like I did if a claim made sense or
not. If their
parents said it, if the bible said it, if they had heard it for a long
enough time, then
it was true, period. I kept trying to understand why the faith of most
people wasn't
as urgent a thing to them as my faith was to me. This led me to believe
even
more so that I was truly converted and most of those around me were
not. But
even among my own brethren, so many seemed to not be as flexible with
their
views as I thought they should be. Very few of them would stick their
necks out in
an argument like I would and put their faith on the line: "Prove to me
that my
religion is wrong and I'll convert to the right one tonight." I didn't
see this attitude
very often and this worried me."
-- End Cite --
This man reminds me of the archetypal atheist "doubting" Thomas who
wanted "compelling evidence" that Jesus had resurrected HIMSELF after
hearing from his fellow disciples that they had seen HIM in the flesh.
It is written that Thomas stated that he needed to put his fingers in
the holes of Jesus' hands and his hand into HIS side before he would
believe the Christ had indeed risen.
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What's wrong with that? If I tell you Zeus is in downtown Atlanta
raising the dead and converting every christian, would you believe me,
or would you want proof? |
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GaryG
medicine forum Guru
Joined: 24 Apr 2005
Posts: 525
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| Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 2:31 pm Post subject:
Re: Marana tha !
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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam2@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1150441461.417975.227810@u72g2000cwu.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | nym-shifter wrote:
http://www.ministerturnsatheist.org/
From your source:
-- Begin Cite --
"In heart, I have always been a bit of a rationalist, even back then. I
felt the need
for compelling evidence to back up a claim, especially in a world of
religions
where so many flimflam artists are at work. So it bothered me when I
heard others
express the "just have faith" aspect of religion. Others, most people,
in fact,
weren't like me. They didn't care like I did if a claim made sense or
not. If their
parents said it, if the bible said it, if they had heard it for a long
enough time, then
it was true, period. I kept trying to understand why the faith of most
people wasn't
as urgent a thing to them as my faith was to me. This led me to believe
even
more so that I was truly converted and most of those around me were
not. But
even among my own brethren, so many seemed to not be as flexible with
their
views as I thought they should be. Very few of them would stick their
necks out in
an argument like I would and put their faith on the line: "Prove to me
that my
religion is wrong and I'll convert to the right one tonight." I didn't
see this attitude
very often and this worried me."
-- End Cite --
This man reminds me of the archetypal atheist "doubting" Thomas who
wanted "compelling evidence" that Jesus had resurrected HIMSELF after
hearing from his fellow disciples that they had seen HIM in the flesh.
It is written that Thomas stated that he needed to put his fingers in
the holes of Jesus' hands and his hand into HIS side before he would
believe the Christ had indeed risen.
"My LORD **and** my GOD !" -- Thomas upon seeing the risen Jesus
Christ.
We are saved by our faith in LORD Jesus Christ. Where there is doubt
there can be no faith no matter how much rational thought and Bible
study.
Those who are saved through faith in LORD Jesus Christ have HIS peace
which is one that passes all worldly understanding. In Christ, there
are no worries.
All praise and glory to LORD GOD Almighty, Whom I love with all my
heart, soul, mind, and strength.
Still praying for your tortured soul, dear nym-shifting neighbor.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/m3gnu
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You remind me of the little child who still insists that Santa Claus is
"real", even after discovering Mom and Dad putting presents under the
Christmas tree.
GG |
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
medicine forum Guru
Joined: 25 Mar 2005
Posts: 8540
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| Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 3:54 pm Post subject:
Re: Marana tha !
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JessHC wrote:
| Quote: | Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
nym-shifter wrote:
http://www.ministerturnsatheist.org/
From your source:
-- Begin Cite --
"In heart, I have always been a bit of a rationalist, even back then. I
felt the need
for compelling evidence to back up a claim, especially in a world of
religions
where so many flimflam artists are at work. So it bothered me when I
heard others
express the "just have faith" aspect of religion. Others, most people,
in fact,
weren't like me. They didn't care like I did if a claim made sense or
not. If their
parents said it, if the bible said it, if they had heard it for a long
enough time, then
it was true, period. I kept trying to understand why the faith of most
people wasn't
as urgent a thing to them as my faith was to me. This led me to believe
even
more so that I was truly converted and most of those around me were
not. But
even among my own brethren, so many seemed to not be as flexible with
their
views as I thought they should be. Very few of them would stick their
necks out in
an argument like I would and put their faith on the line: "Prove to me
that my
religion is wrong and I'll convert to the right one tonight." I didn't
see this attitude
very often and this worried me."
-- End Cite --
This man reminds me of the archetypal atheist "doubting" Thomas who
wanted "compelling evidence" that Jesus had resurrected HIMSELF after
hearing from his fellow disciples that they had seen HIM in the flesh.
It is written that Thomas stated that he needed to put his fingers in
the holes of Jesus' hands and his hand into HIS side before he would
believe the Christ had indeed risen.
What's wrong with that?
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No faith in LORD Jesus Christ.
| Quote: | If I tell you Zeus is in downtown Atlanta
raising the dead and converting every christian, would you believe me,
or would you want proof?
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Would want proof because I have no faith in Zeus.
Truth is simple.
To understand this, simply surf the link under my sig.
Don't forget to let your 5 yr old cat, Lord Buddha, out to play today.
Still praying for your poor enslaved soul, dear JessHC.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://tinyurl.com/m3gnu |
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JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to
medicine forum Guru
Joined: 28 Nov 2005
Posts: 1072
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| Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 4:28 pm Post subject:
Re: Marana tha !
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
| Quote: | JessHC wrote:
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
nym-shifter wrote:
http://www.ministerturnsatheist.org/
From your source:
-- Begin Cite --
"In heart, I have always been a bit of a rationalist, even back then. I
felt the need
for compelling evidence to back up a claim, especially in a world of
religions
where so many flimflam artists are at work. So it bothered me when I
heard others
express the "just have faith" aspect of religion. Others, most people,
in fact,
weren't like me. They didn't care like I did if a claim made sense or
not. If their
parents said it, if the bible said it, if they had heard it for a long
enough time, then
it was true, period. I kept trying to understand why the faith of most
people wasn't
as urgent a thing to them as my faith was to me. This led me to believe
even
more so that I was truly converted and most of those around me were
not. But
even among my own brethren, so many seemed to not be as flexible with
their
views as I thought they should be. Very few of them would stick their
necks out in
an argument like I would and put their faith on the line: "Prove to me
that my
religion is wrong and I'll convert to the right one tonight." I didn't
see this attitude
very often and this worried me."
-- End Cite --
This man reminds me of the archetypal atheist "doubting" Thomas who
wanted "compelling evidence" that Jesus had resurrected HIMSELF after
hearing from his fellow disciples that they had seen HIM in the flesh.
It is written that Thomas stated that he needed to put his fingers in
the holes of Jesus' hands and his hand into HIS side before he would
believe the Christ had indeed risen.
What's wrong with that?
No faith in LORD Jesus Christ.
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What's wrong with that?
| Quote: | If I tell you Zeus is in downtown Atlanta
raising the dead and converting every christian, would you believe me,
or would you want proof?
Would want proof
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Hypocrite. |
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Al
medicine forum Guru
Joined: 08 Jun 2005
Posts: 385
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| Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 6:29 pm Post subject:
CHUNG LIES!!!
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
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To understand this, simply surf the link under my sig.
SURF THIS, a*****le: |
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| Quote: | Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Did not attempt exorcism.
Wanna bet, Chung? Here's EXACTLY what you said: |
"In the infinitely powerful and holy name of LORD Jesus Christ, I
command you, demon, to come out and leave Philip before our LORD
personally destroys you. "
Chung caught in a boldfaced lie! GAME OVER, CHUNG! |
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nospam9@heartmdphd.com
medicine forum addict
Joined: 21 Jan 2006
Posts: 70
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| Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 7:47 pm Post subject:
Re: Marana tha !
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jesshc@phantomemail.com wrote:
| Quote: | Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
JessHC wrote:
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
nym-shifter wrote:
http://www.ministerturnsatheist.org/
From your source:
-- Begin Cite --
"In heart, I have always been a bit of a rationalist, even back then. I
felt the need
for compelling evidence to back up a claim, especially in a world of
religions
where so many flimflam artists are at work. So it bothered me when I
heard others
express the "just have faith" aspect of religion. Others, most people,
in fact,
weren't like me. They didn't care like I did if a claim made sense or
not. If their
parents said it, if the bible said it, if they had heard it for a long
enough time, then
it was true, period. I kept trying to understand why the faith of most
people wasn't
as urgent a thing to them as my faith was to me. This led me to believe
even
more so that I was truly converted and most of those around me were
not. But
even among my own brethren, so many seemed to not be as flexible with
their
views as I thought they should be. Very few of them would stick their
necks out in
an argument like I would and put their faith on the line: "Prove to me
that my
religion is wrong and I'll convert to the right one tonight." I didn't
see this attitude
very often and this worried me."
-- End Cite --
This man reminds me of the archetypal atheist "doubting" Thomas who
wanted "compelling evidence" that Jesus had resurrected HIMSELF after
hearing from his fellow disciples that they had seen HIM in the flesh.
It is written that Thomas stated that he needed to put his fingers in
the holes of Jesus' hands and his hand into HIS side before he would
believe the Christ had indeed risen.
What's wrong with that?
No faith in LORD Jesus Christ.
What's wrong with that?
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No salvation.
| Quote: | If I tell you Zeus is in downtown Atlanta
raising the dead and converting every christian, would you believe me,
or would you want proof?
Would want proof because I have no faith in Zeus.
Hypocrite.
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Being truthful keeps me from being hypocritical.
To understand this, simply surf the link below my sig.
All praise and glory belongs to LORD GOD Almighty, Whom I love with all
my heart, soul, mind, and strength.
Still praying for your poor enslaved soul, dear JessHC.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/m3gnu |
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JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to
medicine forum Guru
Joined: 28 Nov 2005
Posts: 1072
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| Posted: Fri Jun 16, 2006 8:24 pm Post subject:
Re: Marana tha !
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
| Quote: | jesshc@phantomemail.com wrote:
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
JessHC wrote:
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
nym-shifter wrote:
http://www.ministerturnsatheist.org/
From your source:
-- Begin Cite --
"In heart, I have always been a bit of a rationalist, even back then. I
felt the need
for compelling evidence to back up a claim, especially in a world of
religions
where so many flimflam artists are at work. So it bothered me when I
heard others
express the "just have faith" aspect of religion. Others, most people,
in fact,
weren't like me. They didn't care like I did if a claim made sense or
not. If their
parents said it, if the bible said it, if they had heard it for a long
enough time, then
it was true, period. I kept trying to understand why the faith of most
people wasn't
as urgent a thing to them as my faith was to me. This led me to believe
even
more so that I was truly converted and most of those around me were
not. But
even among my own brethren, so many seemed to not be as flexible with
their
views as I thought they should be. Very few of them would stick their
necks out in
an argument like I would and put their faith on the line: "Prove to me
that my
religion is wrong and I'll convert to the right one tonight." I didn't
see this attitude
very often and this worried me."
-- End Cite --
This man reminds me of the archetypal atheist "doubting" Thomas who
wanted "compelling evidence" that Jesus had resurrected HIMSELF after
hearing from his fellow disciples that they had seen HIM in the flesh.
It is written that Thomas stated that he needed to put his fingers in
the holes of Jesus' hands and his hand into HIS side before he would
believe the Christ had indeed risen.
What's wrong with that?
No faith in LORD Jesus Christ.
What's wrong with that?
No salvation.
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Ah. Salvation from god. Provide objective, verifiable evidence there
is "salvation."
| Quote: | If I tell you Zeus is in downtown Atlanta
raising the dead and converting every christian, would you believe me,
or would you want proof?
Would want proof because I have no faith in Zeus.
Hypocrite.
Being truthful keeps me from being hypocritical.
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Your dishonesty is well-documented, and you hypocritically deny others
the same standards of evidence you expect for yourself. |
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
medicine forum Guru
Joined: 25 Mar 2005
Posts: 8540
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| Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 12:07 am Post subject:
Re: Marana tha !
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JessHC wrote:
| Quote: | Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
jesshc@phantomemail.com wrote:
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
JessHC wrote:
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
nym-shifter wrote:
http://www.ministerturnsatheist.org/
From your source:
-- Begin Cite --
"In heart, I have always been a bit of a rationalist, even back then. I
felt the need
for compelling evidence to back up a claim, especially in a world of
religions
where so many flimflam artists are at work. So it bothered me when I
heard others
express the "just have faith" aspect of religion. Others, most people,
in fact,
weren't like me. They didn't care like I did if a claim made sense or
not. If their
parents said it, if the bible said it, if they had heard it for a long
enough time, then
it was true, period. I kept trying to understand why the faith of most
people wasn't
as urgent a thing to them as my faith was to me. This led me to believe
even
more so that I was truly converted and most of those around me were
not. But
even among my own brethren, so many seemed to not be as flexible with
their
views as I thought they should be. Very few of them would stick their
necks out in
an argument like I would and put their faith on the line: "Prove to me
that my
religion is wrong and I'll convert to the right one tonight." I didn't
see this attitude
very often and this worried me."
-- End Cite --
This man reminds me of the archetypal atheist "doubting" Thomas who
wanted "compelling evidence" that Jesus had resurrected HIMSELF after
hearing from his fellow disciples that they had seen HIM in the flesh.
It is written that Thomas stated that he needed to put his fingers in
the holes of Jesus' hands and his hand into HIS side before he would
believe the Christ had indeed risen.
What's wrong with that?
No faith in LORD Jesus Christ.
What's wrong with that?
No salvation.
Ah. Salvation from god. Provide objective, verifiable evidence there
is "salvation."
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The evidence will come on the LORD's day of judgment.
| Quote: | If I tell you Zeus is in downtown Atlanta
raising the dead and converting every christian, would you believe me,
or would you want proof?
Would want proof because I have no faith in Zeus.
Hypocrite.
Being truthful keeps me from being hypocritical.
Your dishonesty is well-documented, and you hypocritically deny others
the same standards of evidence you expect for yourself.
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The choice to be truthful does not require additional evidence.
Indeed, truth is self-evident for the discerning.
To understand this, simply surf the link below my sig.
Marana tha !
Still praying for you, dear JessHC.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew
http://tinyurl.com/m3gnu |
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JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to
medicine forum Guru
Joined: 28 Nov 2005
Posts: 1072
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| Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 2:37 am Post subject:
Re: Marana tha !
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
| Quote: | JessHC wrote:
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
jesshc@phantomemail.com wrote:
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
JessHC wrote:
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
nym-shifter wrote:
http://www.ministerturnsatheist.org/
From your source:
-- Begin Cite --
"In heart, I have always been a bit of a rationalist, even back then. I
felt the need
for compelling evidence to back up a claim, especially in a world of
religions
where so many flimflam artists are at work. So it bothered me when I
heard others
express the "just have faith" aspect of religion. Others, most people,
in fact,
weren't like me. They didn't care like I did if a claim made sense or
not. If their
parents said it, if the bible said it, if they had heard it for a long
enough time, then
it was true, period. I kept trying to understand why the faith of most
people wasn't
as urgent a thing to them as my faith was to me. This led me to believe
even
more so that I was truly converted and most of those around me were
not. But
even among my own brethren, so many seemed to not be as flexible with
their
views as I thought they should be. Very few of them would stick their
necks out in
an argument like I would and put their faith on the line: "Prove to me
that my
religion is wrong and I'll convert to the right one tonight." I didn't
see this attitude
very often and this worried me."
-- End Cite --
This man reminds me of the archetypal atheist "doubting" Thomas who
wanted "compelling evidence" that Jesus had resurrected HIMSELF after
hearing from his fellow disciples that they had seen HIM in the flesh.
It is written that Thomas stated that he needed to put his fingers in
the holes of Jesus' hands and his hand into HIS side before he would
believe the Christ had indeed risen.
What's wrong with that?
No faith in LORD Jesus Christ.
What's wrong with that?
No salvation.
Ah. Salvation from god. Provide objective, verifiable evidence there
is "salvation."
The evidence will come on the LORD's day of judgment.
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So you have no objective, verifiable evidence for any of your
assertions. Why not run off and see if you can dig some up?
| Quote: | If I tell you Zeus is in downtown Atlanta
raising the dead and converting every christian, would you believe me,
or would you want proof?
Would want proof because I have no faith in Zeus.
Hypocrite.
Being truthful keeps me from being hypocritical.
Your dishonesty is well-documented, and you hypocritically deny others
the same standards of evidence you expect for yourself.
The choice to be truthful does not require additional evidence.
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No, it requires you to be truthful. Please consider it. |
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Stephen Knight
medicine forum beginner
Joined: 22 May 2006
Posts: 49
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| Posted: Sat Jun 17, 2006 3:16 am Post subject:
Re: Marana tha !
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On 16 Jun 2006 17:07:49 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<nospam2@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
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The evidence will come on the LORD's day of judgment.
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Cop out... weasel.
"Your gonna get it when you die" is pathetic.
All you young atheists out there. Check this s**t out.
Dung has nothing to say other than whacking off superstitious, sock
puppet nonsense and gibbering how... 'when you're dead, you're in
trouble..'
Where do you think Used Car salesmen get their rap?
Don't believe a word, Dung says. Study him. He's a loon. Make sure
your doctor isn't a card carrying Fundy because he'll pray instead of
using his education.
There has never, ever been a case when the Magic Pixie saved anyone
no matter how many Spells were cast.
Warlord Steve
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