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Dave
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Joined: 09 Feb 2006
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 Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 7:16 pm Post subject:
Question for Dr. Chung
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I am currently taking 300mg Karvea (Irbesartan) for BP a day. I started on this medication about 5 years
ago, at the age of 30. My cardiologist at the time put me on this for 2 reasons, firstly to reduce my blood
pressure as I was obese, and secondly to reduce the amount of ectopics I was getting, which was
probably at least 50 a day. I had the usual myriad of Heart, Kidney, stress tests etc, with no major
problems.
The medication helped me along with magnesium, but now I am a third of the size, lean, fit, and I walk
about 5 miles a day. I only get a few ectopics a day now (PVC's ?), and my BP ranges from 120 - 140.
I am now 35 years old, and what I wanted to know, is there any health problems from taking the
medication for many years longer? I am considered fairly young for BP meds, something I was hoping
that I could reduce at least the dose by becoming fit and healthy.
Thanks for all help.
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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Dave wrote:
| Quote: | I am currently taking 300mg Karvea (Irbesartan) for BP a day. I started on this medication about 5 years
ago, at the age of 30. My cardiologist at the time put me on this for 2 reasons, firstly to reduce my blood
pressure as I was obese, and secondly to reduce the amount of ectopics I was getting, which was
probably at least 50 a day. I had the usual myriad of Heart, Kidney, stress tests etc, with no major
problems.
The medication helped me along with magnesium, but now I am a third of the size, lean, fit, and I walk
about 5 miles a day. I only get a few ectopics a day now (PVC's ?), and my BP ranges from 120 - 140.
I am now 35 years old, and what I wanted to know, is there any health problems from taking the
medication for many years longer?
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None that are known. YMMV.
| Quote: | I am considered fairly young for BP meds, something I was hoping
that I could reduce at least the dose by becoming fit and healthy.
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Folks come off of BP medications when they become lean&trim.
Fit&healthy does not necessarily mean lean&trim.
| Quote: | Thanks for all help.
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You are welcome, Dave.
All thanks and praises belong to the LORD, Whom I love with all my
being.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew
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Al
medicine forum Guru
Joined: 08 Jun 2005
Posts: 385
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| Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 9:42 pm Post subject:
Question for Dave
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Dave wrote:
| Quote: | I am now 35 years old, and what I wanted to know, is there any health problems from taking the
medication for many years longer?
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Just curious ... why would you ask a question like this of a physician
drummed out of Florida, and currently with NO hospital affiliation? If
you read this newsgroup, you MUST know he's a certified whacko. Why not
ask your own doctor? |
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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| Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 11:16 pm Post subject:
Prepare the way for the LORD...
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Al wrote:
| Quote: | Dave wrote:
I am now 35 years old, and what I wanted to know, is there any health problems from taking the
medication for many years longer?
Just curious ... why would you ask a question like this of a physician
drummed out of Florida, and currently with NO hospital affiliation? If
you read this newsgroup, you MUST know he's a certified whacko. Why not
ask your own doctor?
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Sorry my helping others bother you so terribly. Please forgive all my
iniquities.
To understand this, simply surf the link under my name.
Still praying for your poor enslaved soul, dear Al.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew
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Al
medicine forum Guru
Joined: 08 Jun 2005
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Chung Bites
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
| Quote: | Al wrote:
Dave wrote:
Just curious ... why would you ask a question like this of a physician
drummed out of Florida, and currently with NO hospital affiliation? If
you read this newsgroup, you MUST know he's a certified whacko. Why not
ask your own doctor?
Sorry my helping others bother you so terribly. Please forgive all my
iniquities.
Bite me, ex-doctor in good standing in Florida. |
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Al
medicine forum Guru
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
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Sorry my choice to remain openly Christian bothers you so terribly.
Please forgive all my iniquities.
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Once again, Chung pulls stock non-answer #38 out of his ass. |
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
medicine forum Guru
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Posts: 8540
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Don Kirkman wrote:
| Quote: | It seems to me I heard somewhere that Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote in
article <1149699503.952986.29200@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>:
Actually, I have always been and remain a licensed and practicing
Georgia physician, thankfully.
If the period between August 3, 1995 and now is "always"
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It is because of continuity.
| Quote: | you must have a
very hard time dealing with the concept of "eternity."
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Without the LORD, your fantasies remain meaningless (Ecclesiastes).
To understand this, simply surf the link under my sig.
Still praying for your poor enslaved soul, dear Don.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew
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Peabody
medicine forum beginner
Joined: 27 Jun 2005
Posts: 33
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| Posted: Thu Jun 08, 2006 2:46 pm Post subject:
Re: Question for Dr. Chung
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD says...
| Quote: | Folks come off of BP medications when they become
lean&trim.
Fit&healthy does not necessarily mean lean&trim.
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Can I pin you down on this, Doc? I'm 5'10", 170 lbs. I
have a flat belly and no love handles. As a result of
resistance training I'm pretty muscular. Bodyfat around
12%. I eat a lot, but my weight is stable. I'm over 50.
I have hypertension, but had it before I started weight
lifting and cardio work.
As I recall, at 5'10", what I think you call my "optimum"
weight would be 155 or maybe a little less. Are you saying
that if I got down to that weight my BP would go down?
Would that be the case if my bodyfat percentage did not also
go down (i.e. - if I got down to 155 by stopping the weight
training and dropped muscle mass), or are you assuming that
in going to 155 I would drop mainly bodyfat.
I guess what I had assumed was that "optimum" referred to
men of average build, and that the optimum weight for a
particular height was really just a surrogate for an ideal
bodyfat percentage, and that someone who is more muscular
than average would have that ideal bodyfat percentage at a
somewhat higher than "optimal" weight.
But when you say:
| Quote: | Fit&healthy does not necessarily mean lean&trim.
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then I wonder if my assumptions were wrong. Is muscle mass
just as bad for you as fat deposits? What is it about
"lean&trim" that effects blood pressure other than the
bodyfat percentage that it implies. |
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David Smith
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Joined: 03 May 2005
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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam2@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message >>
| Quote: | Actually, the body cannibalizes muscle when it runs out of carbs and
not proteins. The amount of essential amino acids that we need is
actually very little when there is enough carbs.
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I was always under ther impression as long as you ate your daily protein
requirement then the body does not cannibalize muscle, it uses stored
glycogen, body fat, and dietary fat |
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David Smith
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| Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 2:39 pm Post subject:
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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam7@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1149862518.146966.241760@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | David Smith wrote:
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam2@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
Actually, the body cannibalizes muscle when it runs out of carbs and
not proteins. The amount of essential amino acids that we need is
actually very little when there is enough carbs.
I was always under ther impression as long as you ate your daily protein
requirement then the body does not cannibalize muscle, it uses stored
glycogen, body fat, and dietary fat
If carbohydrate intake is inadequate, eventually glycogen stores will
be depleted and gluconeogenesis will require the breakdown of protein.
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From daily dietary protien? |
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