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Steph
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 Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 12:49 am Post subject:
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<awthrawthr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
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My message dated 06/09/06 describing what I did is all you're going to
get...UCLA has helped to confirm one leg of the treatment...capsaicin
reducing cancer cells by 80%. By adding FRESHLY GRATED garlic each day
and the right oil, 100% die.
If you ever get cancer, Steph, instead of zapping yourself...which I'm
sure you have some trepidations about...splurge on some grocery store
peppers (habeneros) and garlic cloves, instead.
The same applies to chemo...you've probably seen enough of those folks
to have second thoughts about subjecting yourself to that 'treat,' too.
And if you want to keep all your 'parts' you could avoid the surgery,
too.
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I'm not interested in your silly treatment. I'm interested in what you claim
was a stage IV cancer.
I guess it wasn't.
It's always the same with you loonies. Peep-show histrionics and refuse to
give all the information which is necessary to have any possibility at all
of accepting or refuting a miraculous claim.
You're making it all up. |
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awthrawthr@yahoo.com
medicine forum Guru Wannabe
Joined: 13 Mar 2006
Posts: 122
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| Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 1:18 am Post subject:
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Steph wrote:
| Quote: | awthrawthr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149985115.603054.165780@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
My message dated 06/09/06 describing what I did is all you're going to
get...UCLA has helped to confirm one leg of the treatment...capsaicin
reducing cancer cells by 80%. By adding FRESHLY GRATED garlic each day
and the right oil, 100% die.
If you ever get cancer, Steph, instead of zapping yourself...which I'm
sure you have some trepidations about...splurge on some grocery store
peppers (habeneros) and garlic cloves, instead.
The same applies to chemo...you've probably seen enough of those folks
to have second thoughts about subjecting yourself to that 'treat,' too.
And if you want to keep all your 'parts' you could avoid the surgery,
too.
I'm not interested in your silly treatment.
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And I'm not interested in your silly treatments either.
| Quote: | I'm interested in what you claim
was a stage IV cancer.
I guess it wasn't.
It's always the same with you loonies. Peep-show histrionics and refuse to
give all the information which is necessary to have any possibility at all
of accepting or refuting a miraculous claim.
You're making it all up.
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And UCLA made up their findings, too?? 80% shrinkage with ONE HERB! I
used two, plus the right oil.
By the way, the people you ought to be "making it up" to are all the
ones you fried into impotence, intestinal adhesions, loss of their
voice, incontinence, daily diarrhea, dry mouth with loss of their
teeth, etc.
Meanwhile, if your time comes, you'll be running to the produce aisle
to snatch a huge bag of habeneros and garlic before you let the same
happen to you. And who could fault you...you've seen firsthand your
handiwork. |
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Steph
medicine forum Guru
Joined: 03 May 2005
Posts: 504
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| Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 6:36 am Post subject:
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<awthrawthr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149988694.187958.5780@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
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Steph wrote:
awthrawthr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149985115.603054.165780@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
My message dated 06/09/06 describing what I did is all you're going to
get...UCLA has helped to confirm one leg of the treatment...capsaicin
reducing cancer cells by 80%. By adding FRESHLY GRATED garlic each day
and the right oil, 100% die.
If you ever get cancer, Steph, instead of zapping yourself...which I'm
sure you have some trepidations about...splurge on some grocery store
peppers (habeneros) and garlic cloves, instead.
The same applies to chemo...you've probably seen enough of those folks
to have second thoughts about subjecting yourself to that 'treat,' too.
And if you want to keep all your 'parts' you could avoid the surgery,
too.
I'm not interested in your silly treatment.
And I'm not interested in your silly treatments either.
I'm interested in what you claim
was a stage IV cancer.
I guess it wasn't.
It's always the same with you loonies. Peep-show histrionics and refuse
to
give all the information which is necessary to have any possibility at
all
of accepting or refuting a miraculous claim.
You're making it all up.
And UCLA made up their findings, too?? 80% shrinkage with ONE HERB! I
used two, plus the right oil.
By the way, the people you ought to be "making it up" to are all the
ones you fried into impotence, intestinal adhesions, loss of their
voice, incontinence, daily diarrhea, dry mouth with loss of their
teeth, etc.
Meanwhile, if your time comes, you'll be running to the produce aisle
to snatch a huge bag of habeneros and garlic before you let the same
happen to you. And who could fault you...you've seen firsthand your
handiwork.
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It's just pointless arguing with psychotic sacked bus drivers.
Back in the killfile with you |
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cathyb
medicine forum Guru
Joined: 06 Jun 2005
Posts: 365
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| Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 7:10 am Post subject:
Re: Revici and Kelley Eidem's claims The Winner is Dr. Moran!
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Steph wrote:
| Quote: | awthrawthr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149988694.187958.5780@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Steph wrote:
awthrawthr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149985115.603054.165780@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
My message dated 06/09/06 describing what I did is all you're going to
get...UCLA has helped to confirm one leg of the treatment...capsaicin
reducing cancer cells by 80%. By adding FRESHLY GRATED garlic each day
and the right oil, 100% die.
If you ever get cancer, Steph, instead of zapping yourself...which I'm
sure you have some trepidations about...splurge on some grocery store
peppers (habeneros) and garlic cloves, instead.
The same applies to chemo...you've probably seen enough of those folks
to have second thoughts about subjecting yourself to that 'treat,' too.
And if you want to keep all your 'parts' you could avoid the surgery,
too.
I'm not interested in your silly treatment.
And I'm not interested in your silly treatments either.
I'm interested in what you claim
was a stage IV cancer.
I guess it wasn't.
It's always the same with you loonies. Peep-show histrionics and refuse
to
give all the information which is necessary to have any possibility at
all
of accepting or refuting a miraculous claim.
You're making it all up.
And UCLA made up their findings, too?? 80% shrinkage with ONE HERB! I
used two, plus the right oil.
By the way, the people you ought to be "making it up" to are all the
ones you fried into impotence, intestinal adhesions, loss of their
voice, incontinence, daily diarrhea, dry mouth with loss of their
teeth, etc.
Meanwhile, if your time comes, you'll be running to the produce aisle
to snatch a huge bag of habeneros and garlic before you let the same
happen to you. And who could fault you...you've seen firsthand your
handiwork.
It's just pointless arguing with psychotic sacked bus drivers.
Back in the killfile with you
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Oh, don't. It's so much fun watching you guys ask him for evidence,
only to have him say, over a few vitriolic, substance-free paragraphs,
that he doesn't have any--without apparently realising that that is
what he is doing.
Thanks,
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Mark Probert
medicine forum Guru
Joined: 01 May 2005
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| Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:38 pm Post subject:
Re: Revici and Kelley Eidem's claims The Winner is Dr. Moran!
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awthrawthr@yahoo.com wrote:
| Quote: | Mark Probert wrote:
awthrawthr@yahoo.com wrote:
cathyb wrote:
awthrawthr@yahoo.com wrote:
Steph wrote:
awthrawthr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149792086.415319.164980@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
You smiled, you spoke, and I believed wrote:
Peter Moran wrote:
Eidem (awthrawthr@yahoo.com ) has responded abusively to my request for
information (e.g. dates, biopsy results, other treatment received,
subsequent progress, and, ideally, source documentation of the facts)
about the patient whose photographs are shown at
http://members.bordernet.com.au/~pmoran/cancer/Revici.htm
I point out to him that it is his claims that are under examination,
not
mine. As it now stands all we know for sure is that Lyall and eight
others
(including some of those using the Revici treatment) examined 33 cancer
cases treated by Revici "or his appointed deputy" under what to present
knowledge is a most implausible and quite completely unsubstantiated
method
of classifying cancer patients into groups requiring quite different
treatments. .
22 died. 8 left the study because they were unimproved by the
treatment.
At the close of the study 15 months later only 3 patients were still
under
Revici's care but all had signs of tumour progression.
Eidem, if you don't want the dustjacket of your book posted there I
will
take it off, but leave the forty-year old photos. You have already
advised
me that you don't know who owns copyright on them.
Peter Moran
I have been reading the exchanges in this string.
I hereby declare Dr. Moran the winner, by virtue of his logic and
expertise.
j.
Moran has no expertise in the Revici Method, which means you have no
logic.
You have no expertise in the Revici Method either. In fact your level of
knowledge is that of a redundant school bus driver.
Wonder why?
You know, I drove a bus for five years and never killed or injured
anyone doing it......it's too bad you can't go a week without being
able to make the same claim in your 'profession.'
Driving a bus, and writing a book at the same time, and learning enough
to run rings around you and the moron with one hand tied behind my
back.
Before I came here, you two guys ruled the roost. Since my arrival,
you've had your asses handed to you time after time.
LOL. Funny; that's not how it looks to anyone but you. Bless.
You guys are so WEAK that now someone is resorting to giving 5 stars
each time you guys post something, and 1 star when people like myself
do.
I would never give your posts one star. Considering that your highest
level of proof of your so-called ideas is a personal attack on Dr.
Moran, you should be emailing Google at least five stars per post. You
owe them at least that much.
Next, the infantile secret star giver will probably be flinging poo.
Sound more like sour grapes.
You might think, and we'll take you word on it, your poo tastes like
sour grapes.
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Utterly brilliant response. |
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Mark Probert
medicine forum Guru
Joined: 01 May 2005
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| Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 3:40 pm Post subject:
Re: Revici and Kelley Eidem's claims The Winner is Dr. Moran!
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awthrawthr@yahoo.com wrote:
| Quote: | Mark Probert wrote:
awthrawthr@yahoo.com wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
You smiled, you spoke, and I believed wrote:
Peter Moran wrote:
Eidem (awthrawthr@yahoo.com ) has responded abusively to my request
for information (e.g. dates, biopsy results, other treatment received,
subsequent progress, and, ideally, source documentation of the
facts) about the patient whose photographs are shown at
http://members.bordernet.com.au/~pmoran/cancer/Revici.htm
I point out to him that it is his claims that are under examination,
not mine. As it now stands all we know for sure is that Lyall and
eight others (including some of those using the Revici treatment)
examined 33 cancer cases treated by Revici "or his appointed deputy"
under what to present knowledge is a most implausible and quite
completely unsubstantiated method of classifying cancer patients into
groups requiring quite different treatments. .
22 died. 8 left the study because they were unimproved by the
treatment. At the close of the study 15 months later only 3 patients
were still under Revici's care but all had signs of tumour progression.
Eidem, if you don't want the dustjacket of your book posted there I
will take it off, but leave the forty-year old photos. You have
already advised me that you don't know who owns copyright on them.
Peter Moran
I have been reading the exchanges in this string.
I hereby declare Dr. Moran the winner, by virtue of his logic and
expertise.
I read the responses to Dr. Moran's writings, and to your post.
Obviously, Dr. Moran's use of facts and logic scare the cleanse out of
these critters.
?? You've got to be kidding! But then I'm not considering the source of
your comment...you.
I am surely not kidding. Your best proof, so far, has been ad hominem
attacks on Dr. Moran. When you raise your level of proof to
straightforward name calling, you may rate one star.
I'll let you know, and you should hold your breath until then.
Awww...there's nothing I crave more than your acceptance and approval
ROFLMAO
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Are you holding your breath? I hope so. O2 deprivation may help you.
| Quote: | BTW, we know you're not kidding...we also know that your your dead
serious about loving chemo and radiation. I hope you're not
disappointed in it when you get your fair share of it.
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awthrawthr@yahoo.com
medicine forum Guru Wannabe
Joined: 13 Mar 2006
Posts: 122
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| Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 5:01 am Post subject:
Re: Revici and Kelley Eidem's claims The Winner is Dr. Moran!
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Steph wrote:
| Quote: | awthrawthr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149988694.187958.5780@i40g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Steph wrote:
awthrawthr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149985115.603054.165780@f6g2000cwb.googlegroups.com...
My message dated 06/09/06 describing what I did is all you're going to
get...UCLA has helped to confirm one leg of the treatment...capsaicin
reducing cancer cells by 80%. By adding FRESHLY GRATED garlic each day
and the right oil, 100% die.
If you ever get cancer, Steph, instead of zapping yourself...which I'm
sure you have some trepidations about...splurge on some grocery store
peppers (habeneros) and garlic cloves, instead.
The same applies to chemo...you've probably seen enough of those folks
to have second thoughts about subjecting yourself to that 'treat,' too.
And if you want to keep all your 'parts' you could avoid the surgery,
too.
I'm not interested in your silly treatment.
And I'm not interested in your silly treatments either.
I'm interested in what you claim
was a stage IV cancer.
I guess it wasn't.
It's always the same with you loonies. Peep-show histrionics and refuse
to
give all the information which is necessary to have any possibility at
all
of accepting or refuting a miraculous claim.
You're making it all up.
And UCLA made up their findings, too?? 80% shrinkage with ONE HERB! I
used two, plus the right oil.
By the way, the people you ought to be "making it up" to are all the
ones you fried into impotence, intestinal adhesions, loss of their
voice, incontinence, daily diarrhea, dry mouth with loss of their
teeth, etc.
Meanwhile, if your time comes, you'll be running to the produce aisle
to snatch a huge bag of habeneros and garlic before you let the same
happen to you. And who could fault you...you've seen firsthand your
handiwork.
It's just pointless arguing with psychotic sacked bus drivers.
Back in the killfile with you
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Here is why you are quitting: "By the way, the people you ought to be
'making it up' to are all the ones you fried into impotence, intestinal
adhesions, loss of their
voice, incontinence, daily diarrhea, dry mouth with loss of their
teeth, etc."
This is what you've done for years. I didn't make up those horrendous
outcomes...they are standard fare with your radiation brutality...and
you know it. |
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awthrawthr@yahoo.com
medicine forum Guru Wannabe
Joined: 13 Mar 2006
Posts: 122
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| Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 5:07 am Post subject:
Re: Revici and Kelley Eidem's claims The Winner is Dr. Moran!
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Mark Probert wrote:
| Quote: | awthrawthr@yahoo.com wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
awthrawthr@yahoo.com wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
You smiled, you spoke, and I believed wrote:
Peter Moran wrote:
Eidem (awthrawthr@yahoo.com ) has responded abusively to my request
for information (e.g. dates, biopsy results, other treatment received,
subsequent progress, and, ideally, source documentation of the
facts) about the patient whose photographs are shown at
http://members.bordernet.com.au/~pmoran/cancer/Revici.htm
I point out to him that it is his claims that are under examination,
not mine. As it now stands all we know for sure is that Lyall and
eight others (including some of those using the Revici treatment)
examined 33 cancer cases treated by Revici "or his appointed deputy"
under what to present knowledge is a most implausible and quite
completely unsubstantiated method of classifying cancer patients into
groups requiring quite different treatments. .
22 died. 8 left the study because they were unimproved by the
treatment. At the close of the study 15 months later only 3 patients
were still under Revici's care but all had signs of tumour progression.
Eidem, if you don't want the dustjacket of your book posted there I
will take it off, but leave the forty-year old photos. You have
already advised me that you don't know who owns copyright on them.
Peter Moran
I have been reading the exchanges in this string.
I hereby declare Dr. Moran the winner, by virtue of his logic and
expertise.
I read the responses to Dr. Moran's writings, and to your post.
Obviously, Dr. Moran's use of facts and logic scare the cleanse out of
these critters.
?? You've got to be kidding! But then I'm not considering the source of
your comment...you.
I am surely not kidding. Your best proof, so far, has been ad hominem
attacks on Dr. Moran. When you raise your level of proof to
straightforward name calling, you may rate one star.
I'll let you know, and you should hold your breath until then.
Awww...there's nothing I crave more than your acceptance and approval
ROFLMAO
Are you holding your breath? I hope so. O2 deprivation may help you.
BTW, we know you're not kidding...we also know that your your dead
serious about loving chemo and radiation. I hope you're not
disappointed in it when you get your fair share of it.
We'll see who is around...
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You almost got your wish today...I almost choked to death earlier today
on a piece of meat that went down the wrong tube. I literally thought
"This is it!" It hadn't gone too far and ended up just being a close
call. A darn close call. |
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PeterB
medicine forum Guru
Joined: 28 Apr 2005
Posts: 384
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| Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 1:59 pm Post subject:
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David Wright wrote:
| Quote: | In article <1149796650.528795.258170@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
PeterB <pkm@mytrashmail.com> wrote:
You smiled, you spoke, and I believed wrote:
Peter Moran wrote:
Eidem (awthrawthr@yahoo.com ) has responded abusively to my request for
information (e.g. dates, biopsy results, other treatment received,
subsequent progress, and, ideally, source documentation of the facts)
about the patient whose photographs are shown at
http://members.bordernet.com.au/~pmoran/cancer/Revici.htm
I point out to him that it is his claims that are under examination, not
mine. As it now stands all we know for sure is that Lyall and eight others
(including some of those using the Revici treatment) examined 33 cancer
cases treated by Revici "or his appointed deputy" under what to present
knowledge is a most implausible and quite completely unsubstantiated method
of classifying cancer patients into groups requiring quite different
treatments. .
22 died. 8 left the study because they were unimproved by the treatment.
At the close of the study 15 months later only 3 patients were still under
Revici's care but all had signs of tumour progression.
Eidem, if you don't want the dustjacket of your book posted there I will
take it off, but leave the forty-year old photos. You have already advised
me that you don't know who owns copyright on them.
Peter Moran
I have been reading the exchanges in this string.
I hereby declare Dr. Moran the winner, by virtue of his logic and expertise.
j.
Moran's expertise is in evasive maneuvers, so he wins on everything but
virtue.
And if there's anyone here who's qualified to judge evasiveness, it's
PeterB.
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Howard McCollister
medicine forum Guru Wannabe
Joined: 24 Mar 2005
Posts: 243
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| Posted: Mon Jun 12, 2006 5:17 pm Post subject:
Re: Revici and Kelley Eidem's claims The Winner is Dr. Moran!
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awthrawthr@yahoo.com wrote:
| Quote: | Mark Probert wrote:
awthrawthr@yahoo.com wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
awthrawthr@yahoo.com wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
You smiled, you spoke, and I believed wrote:
Peter Moran wrote:
Eidem (awthrawthr@yahoo.com ) has responded abusively to my request
for information (e.g. dates, biopsy results, other treatment received,
subsequent progress, and, ideally, source documentation of the
facts) about the patient whose photographs are shown at
http://members.bordernet.com.au/~pmoran/cancer/Revici.htm
I point out to him that it is his claims that are under examination,
not mine. As it now stands all we know for sure is that Lyall and
eight others (including some of those using the Revici treatment)
examined 33 cancer cases treated by Revici "or his appointed deputy"
under what to present knowledge is a most implausible and quite
completely unsubstantiated method of classifying cancer patients into
groups requiring quite different treatments. .
22 died. 8 left the study because they were unimproved by the
treatment. At the close of the study 15 months later only 3 patients
were still under Revici's care but all had signs of tumour progression.
Eidem, if you don't want the dustjacket of your book posted there I
will take it off, but leave the forty-year old photos. You have
already advised me that you don't know who owns copyright on them.
Peter Moran
I have been reading the exchanges in this string.
I hereby declare Dr. Moran the winner, by virtue of his logic and
expertise.
I read the responses to Dr. Moran's writings, and to your post.
Obviously, Dr. Moran's use of facts and logic scare the cleanse out of
these critters.
?? You've got to be kidding! But then I'm not considering the source of
your comment...you.
I am surely not kidding. Your best proof, so far, has been ad hominem
attacks on Dr. Moran. When you raise your level of proof to
straightforward name calling, you may rate one star.
I'll let you know, and you should hold your breath until then.
Awww...there's nothing I crave more than your acceptance and approval
ROFLMAO
Are you holding your breath? I hope so. O2 deprivation may help you.
BTW, we know you're not kidding...we also know that your your dead
serious about loving chemo and radiation. I hope you're not
disappointed in it when you get your fair share of it.
We'll see who is around...
You almost got your wish today...I almost choked to death earlier today
on a piece of meat that went down the wrong tube. I literally thought
"This is it!" It hadn't gone too far and ended up just being a close
call. A darn close call.
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I don't think anyone here wishes you ill, you have not attained Jan's
status, yet.
j. |
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awthrawthr@yahoo.com
medicine forum Guru Wannabe
Joined: 13 Mar 2006
Posts: 122
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| Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 3:45 am Post subject:
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You smiled, you spoke, and I believed wrote:
| Quote: | awthrawthr@yahoo.com wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
awthrawthr@yahoo.com wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
awthrawthr@yahoo.com wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
You smiled, you spoke, and I believed wrote:
Peter Moran wrote:
Eidem (awthrawthr@yahoo.com ) has responded abusively to my request
for information (e.g. dates, biopsy results, other treatment received,
subsequent progress, and, ideally, source documentation of the
facts) about the patient whose photographs are shown at
http://members.bordernet.com.au/~pmoran/cancer/Revici.htm
I point out to him that it is his claims that are under examination,
not mine. As it now stands all we know for sure is that Lyall and
eight others (including some of those using the Revici treatment)
examined 33 cancer cases treated by Revici "or his appointed deputy"
under what to present knowledge is a most implausible and quite
completely unsubstantiated method of classifying cancer patients into
groups requiring quite different treatments. .
22 died. 8 left the study because they were unimproved by the
treatment. At the close of the study 15 months later only 3 patients
were still under Revici's care but all had signs of tumour progression.
Eidem, if you don't want the dustjacket of your book posted there I
will take it off, but leave the forty-year old photos. You have
already advised me that you don't know who owns copyright on them.
Peter Moran
I have been reading the exchanges in this string.
I hereby declare Dr. Moran the winner, by virtue of his logic and
expertise.
I read the responses to Dr. Moran's writings, and to your post.
Obviously, Dr. Moran's use of facts and logic scare the cleanse out of
these critters.
?? You've got to be kidding! But then I'm not considering the source of
your comment...you.
I am surely not kidding. Your best proof, so far, has been ad hominem
attacks on Dr. Moran. When you raise your level of proof to
straightforward name calling, you may rate one star.
I'll let you know, and you should hold your breath until then.
Awww...there's nothing I crave more than your acceptance and approval
ROFLMAO
Are you holding your breath? I hope so. O2 deprivation may help you.
BTW, we know you're not kidding...we also know that your your dead
serious about loving chemo and radiation. I hope you're not
disappointed in it when you get your fair share of it.
We'll see who is around...
You almost got your wish today...I almost choked to death earlier today
on a piece of meat that went down the wrong tube. I literally thought
"This is it!" It hadn't gone too far and ended up just being a close
call. A darn close call.
I don't think anyone here wishes you ill, you have not attained Jan's
status, yet.
j.
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Thanks for the kind words, j. You've earned a two-posting reprieve from
any namecalling from me! ;-)
While Jan and I are probably on the same side (not sure), her messages
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Mark Probert
medicine forum Guru
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Posts: 1720
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| Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:23 pm Post subject:
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awthrawthr@yahoo.com wrote:
| Quote: | Mark Probert wrote:
awthrawthr@yahoo.com wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
awthrawthr@yahoo.com wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
You smiled, you spoke, and I believed wrote:
Peter Moran wrote:
Eidem (awthrawthr@yahoo.com ) has responded abusively to my request
for information (e.g. dates, biopsy results, other treatment received,
subsequent progress, and, ideally, source documentation of the
facts) about the patient whose photographs are shown at
http://members.bordernet.com.au/~pmoran/cancer/Revici.htm
I point out to him that it is his claims that are under examination,
not mine. As it now stands all we know for sure is that Lyall and
eight others (including some of those using the Revici treatment)
examined 33 cancer cases treated by Revici "or his appointed deputy"
under what to present knowledge is a most implausible and quite
completely unsubstantiated method of classifying cancer patients into
groups requiring quite different treatments. .
22 died. 8 left the study because they were unimproved by the
treatment. At the close of the study 15 months later only 3 patients
were still under Revici's care but all had signs of tumour progression.
Eidem, if you don't want the dustjacket of your book posted there I
will take it off, but leave the forty-year old photos. You have
already advised me that you don't know who owns copyright on them.
Peter Moran
I have been reading the exchanges in this string.
I hereby declare Dr. Moran the winner, by virtue of his logic and
expertise.
I read the responses to Dr. Moran's writings, and to your post.
Obviously, Dr. Moran's use of facts and logic scare the cleanse out of
these critters.
?? You've got to be kidding! But then I'm not considering the source of
your comment...you.
I am surely not kidding. Your best proof, so far, has been ad hominem
attacks on Dr. Moran. When you raise your level of proof to
straightforward name calling, you may rate one star.
I'll let you know, and you should hold your breath until then.
Awww...there's nothing I crave more than your acceptance and approval
ROFLMAO
Are you holding your breath? I hope so. O2 deprivation may help you.
BTW, we know you're not kidding...we also know that your your dead
serious about loving chemo and radiation. I hope you're not
disappointed in it when you get your fair share of it.
We'll see who is around...
You almost got your wish today...
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The only wish I have referable to you is that you get a clue.
I almost choked to death earlier today
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Wouldn't that be called a spastic colon?
I literally thought
| Quote: | "This is it!" It hadn't gone too far and ended up just being a close
call. A darn close call. |
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Mark Probert
medicine forum Guru
Joined: 01 May 2005
Posts: 1720
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| Posted: Tue Jun 13, 2006 1:24 pm Post subject:
Re: Revici and Kelley Eidem's claims The Winner is Dr. Moran!
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awthrawthr@yahoo.com wrote:
| Quote: | You smiled, you spoke, and I believed wrote:
awthrawthr@yahoo.com wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
awthrawthr@yahoo.com wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
awthrawthr@yahoo.com wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
You smiled, you spoke, and I believed wrote:
Peter Moran wrote:
Eidem (awthrawthr@yahoo.com ) has responded abusively to my request
for information (e.g. dates, biopsy results, other treatment received,
subsequent progress, and, ideally, source documentation of the
facts) about the patient whose photographs are shown at
http://members.bordernet.com.au/~pmoran/cancer/Revici.htm
I point out to him that it is his claims that are under examination,
not mine. As it now stands all we know for sure is that Lyall and
eight others (including some of those using the Revici treatment)
examined 33 cancer cases treated by Revici "or his appointed deputy"
under what to present knowledge is a most implausible and quite
completely unsubstantiated method of classifying cancer patients into
groups requiring quite different treatments. .
22 died. 8 left the study because they were unimproved by the
treatment. At the close of the study 15 months later only 3 patients
were still under Revici's care but all had signs of tumour progression.
Eidem, if you don't want the dustjacket of your book posted there I
will take it off, but leave the forty-year old photos. You have
already advised me that you don't know who owns copyright on them.
Peter Moran
I have been reading the exchanges in this string.
I hereby declare Dr. Moran the winner, by virtue of his logic and
expertise.
I read the responses to Dr. Moran's writings, and to your post.
Obviously, Dr. Moran's use of facts and logic scare the cleanse out of
these critters.
?? You've got to be kidding! But then I'm not considering the source of
your comment...you.
I am surely not kidding. Your best proof, so far, has been ad hominem
attacks on Dr. Moran. When you raise your level of proof to
straightforward name calling, you may rate one star.
I'll let you know, and you should hold your breath until then.
Awww...there's nothing I crave more than your acceptance and approval
ROFLMAO
Are you holding your breath? I hope so. O2 deprivation may help you.
BTW, we know you're not kidding...we also know that your your dead
serious about loving chemo and radiation. I hope you're not
disappointed in it when you get your fair share of it.
We'll see who is around...
You almost got your wish today...I almost choked to death earlier today
on a piece of meat that went down the wrong tube. I literally thought
"This is it!" It hadn't gone too far and ended up just being a close
call. A darn close call.
I don't think anyone here wishes you ill, you have not attained Jan's
status, yet.
j.
Thanks for the kind words, j. You've earned a two-posting reprieve from
any namecalling from me! ;-)
While Jan and I are probably on the same side (not sure), her messages
are difficult or impossible for me to follow.
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Hey, there is hope for you yet. Anyone who can follow Jan's messages has
serious brain damage. |
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awthrawthr@yahoo.com
medicine forum Guru Wannabe
Joined: 13 Mar 2006
Posts: 122
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| Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 12:49 am Post subject:
Re: Revici and Kelley Eidem's claims The Winner is Dr. Moran!
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Mark Probert wrote:
| Quote: | awthrawthr@yahoo.com wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
awthrawthr@yahoo.com wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
awthrawthr@yahoo.com wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
You smiled, you spoke, and I believed wrote:
Peter Moran wrote:
Eidem (awthrawthr@yahoo.com ) has responded abusively to my request
for information (e.g. dates, biopsy results, other treatment received,
subsequent progress, and, ideally, source documentation of the
facts) about the patient whose photographs are shown at
http://members.bordernet.com.au/~pmoran/cancer/Revici.htm
I point out to him that it is his claims that are under examination,
not mine. As it now stands all we know for sure is that Lyall and
eight others (including some of those using the Revici treatment)
examined 33 cancer cases treated by Revici "or his appointed deputy"
under what to present knowledge is a most implausible and quite
completely unsubstantiated method of classifying cancer patients into
groups requiring quite different treatments. .
22 died. 8 left the study because they were unimproved by the
treatment. At the close of the study 15 months later only 3 patients
were still under Revici's care but all had signs of tumour progression.
Eidem, if you don't want the dustjacket of your book posted there I
will take it off, but leave the forty-year old photos. You have
already advised me that you don't know who owns copyright on them.
Peter Moran
I have been reading the exchanges in this string.
I hereby declare Dr. Moran the winner, by virtue of his logic and
expertise.
I read the responses to Dr. Moran's writings, and to your post.
Obviously, Dr. Moran's use of facts and logic scare the cleanse out of
these critters.
?? You've got to be kidding! But then I'm not considering the source of
your comment...you.
I am surely not kidding. Your best proof, so far, has been ad hominem
attacks on Dr. Moran. When you raise your level of proof to
straightforward name calling, you may rate one star.
I'll let you know, and you should hold your breath until then.
Awww...there's nothing I crave more than your acceptance and approval
ROFLMAO
Are you holding your breath? I hope so. O2 deprivation may help you.
BTW, we know you're not kidding...we also know that your your dead
serious about loving chemo and radiation. I hope you're not
disappointed in it when you get your fair share of it.
We'll see who is around...
You almost got your wish today...
The only wish I have referable to you is that you get a clue.
I almost choked to death earlier today
on a piece of meat that went down the wrong tube.
Wouldn't that be called a spastic colon?
I literally thought
"This is it!" It hadn't gone too far and ended up just being a close
call. A darn close call.
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So I guess we're even when it comes to the scatalogical references.
Isn't it fun! |
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Mark Probert
medicine forum Guru
Joined: 01 May 2005
Posts: 1720
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| Posted: Wed Jun 14, 2006 1:52 pm Post subject:
Re: Revici and Kelley Eidem's claims The Winner is Dr. Moran!
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awthrawthr@yahoo.com wrote:
| Quote: | Mark Probert wrote:
awthrawthr@yahoo.com wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
awthrawthr@yahoo.com wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
awthrawthr@yahoo.com wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
You smiled, you spoke, and I believed wrote:
Peter Moran wrote:
Eidem (awthrawthr@yahoo.com ) has responded abusively to my request
for information (e.g. dates, biopsy results, other treatment received,
subsequent progress, and, ideally, source documentation of the
facts) about the patient whose photographs are shown at
http://members.bordernet.com.au/~pmoran/cancer/Revici.htm
I point out to him that it is his claims that are under examination,
not mine. As it now stands all we know for sure is that Lyall and
eight others (including some of those using the Revici treatment)
examined 33 cancer cases treated by Revici "or his appointed deputy"
under what to present knowledge is a most implausible and quite
completely unsubstantiated method of classifying cancer patients into
groups requiring quite different treatments. .
22 died. 8 left the study because they were unimproved by the
treatment. At the close of the study 15 months later only 3 patients
were still under Revici's care but all had signs of tumour progression.
Eidem, if you don't want the dustjacket of your book posted there I
will take it off, but leave the forty-year old photos. You have
already advised me that you don't know who owns copyright on them.
Peter Moran
I have been reading the exchanges in this string.
I hereby declare Dr. Moran the winner, by virtue of his logic and
expertise.
I read the responses to Dr. Moran's writings, and to your post.
Obviously, Dr. Moran's use of facts and logic scare the cleanse out of
these critters.
?? You've got to be kidding! But then I'm not considering the source of
your comment...you.
I am surely not kidding. Your best proof, so far, has been ad hominem
attacks on Dr. Moran. When you raise your level of proof to
straightforward name calling, you may rate one star.
I'll let you know, and you should hold your breath until then.
Awww...there's nothing I crave more than your acceptance and approval
ROFLMAO
Are you holding your breath? I hope so. O2 deprivation may help you.
BTW, we know you're not kidding...we also know that your your dead
serious about loving chemo and radiation. I hope you're not
disappointed in it when you get your fair share of it.
We'll see who is around...
You almost got your wish today...
The only wish I have referable to you is that you get a clue.
I almost choked to death earlier today
on a piece of meat that went down the wrong tube.
Wouldn't that be called a spastic colon?
I literally thought
"This is it!" It hadn't gone too far and ended up just being a close
call. A darn close call.
So I guess we're even when it comes to the scatalogical references.
Isn't it fun!
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