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Mark Probert
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Joined: 01 May 2005
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 Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 2:15 pm Post subject:
Re: Revici and Kelley Eidem's claims The Winner is Dr. Moran!
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You smiled, you spoke, and I believed wrote:
| Quote: | Peter Moran wrote:
Eidem (awthrawthr@yahoo.com ) has responded abusively to my request
for information (e.g. dates, biopsy results, other treatment received,
subsequent progress, and, ideally, source documentation of the
facts) about the patient whose photographs are shown at
http://members.bordernet.com.au/~pmoran/cancer/Revici.htm
I point out to him that it is his claims that are under examination,
not mine. As it now stands all we know for sure is that Lyall and
eight others (including some of those using the Revici treatment)
examined 33 cancer cases treated by Revici "or his appointed deputy"
under what to present knowledge is a most implausible and quite
completely unsubstantiated method of classifying cancer patients into
groups requiring quite different treatments. .
22 died. 8 left the study because they were unimproved by the
treatment. At the close of the study 15 months later only 3 patients
were still under Revici's care but all had signs of tumour progression.
Eidem, if you don't want the dustjacket of your book posted there I
will take it off, but leave the forty-year old photos. You have
already advised me that you don't know who owns copyright on them.
Peter Moran
I have been reading the exchanges in this string.
I hereby declare Dr. Moran the winner, by virtue of his logic and
expertise.
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I read the responses to Dr. Moran's writings, and to your post.
Obviously, Dr. Moran's use of facts and logic scare the cleanse out of
these critters. |
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Howard McCollister
medicine forum Guru Wannabe
Joined: 24 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 2:56 pm Post subject:
Re: Revici and Kelley Eidem's claims The Winner isDr. Moran!
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Vakker wrote:
| Quote: | You smiled, you spoke, and I believed <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:9cXhg.42300$fb2.38705@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
Peter Moran wrote:
Eidem (awthrawthr@yahoo.com ) has responded abusively to my request for
information (e.g. dates, biopsy results, other treatment received,
subsequent progress, and, ideally, source documentation of the facts)
about the patient whose photographs are shown at
http://members.bordernet.com.au/~pmoran/cancer/Revici.htm
I point out to him that it is his claims that are under examination, not
mine. As it now stands all we know for sure is that Lyall and eight
others
(including some of those using the Revici treatment) examined 33 cancer
cases treated by Revici "or his appointed deputy" under what to present
knowledge is a most implausible and quite completely unsubstantiated
method
of classifying cancer patients into groups requiring quite different
treatments. .
22 died. 8 left the study because they were unimproved by the
treatment.
At the close of the study 15 months later only 3 patients were still
under
Revici's care but all had signs of tumour progression.
Eidem, if you don't want the dustjacket of your book posted there I will
take it off, but leave the forty-year old photos. You have already
advised
me that you don't know who owns copyright on them.
Peter Moran
I have been reading the exchanges in this string.
I hereby declare Dr. Moran the winner, by virtue of his logic and
expertise.
j.
I hereby declare you an idiot, by virtue of your idiocy. Idiot.
Vakker.
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your opinion is floccinaucinihilipilification.
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awthrawthr@yahoo.com
medicine forum Guru Wannabe
Joined: 13 Mar 2006
Posts: 122
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| Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 9:35 pm Post subject:
Re: Revici and Kelley Eidem's claims The Winner is Dr. Moran!
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cathyb wrote:
| Quote: | awthrawthr@yahoo.com wrote:
Steph wrote:
awthrawthr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149792086.415319.164980@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
You smiled, you spoke, and I believed wrote:
Peter Moran wrote:
Eidem (awthrawthr@yahoo.com ) has responded abusively to my request for
information (e.g. dates, biopsy results, other treatment received,
subsequent progress, and, ideally, source documentation of the facts)
about the patient whose photographs are shown at
http://members.bordernet.com.au/~pmoran/cancer/Revici.htm
I point out to him that it is his claims that are under examination,
not
mine. As it now stands all we know for sure is that Lyall and eight
others
(including some of those using the Revici treatment) examined 33 cancer
cases treated by Revici "or his appointed deputy" under what to present
knowledge is a most implausible and quite completely unsubstantiated
method
of classifying cancer patients into groups requiring quite different
treatments. .
22 died. 8 left the study because they were unimproved by the
treatment.
At the close of the study 15 months later only 3 patients were still
under
Revici's care but all had signs of tumour progression.
Eidem, if you don't want the dustjacket of your book posted there I
will
take it off, but leave the forty-year old photos. You have already
advised
me that you don't know who owns copyright on them.
Peter Moran
I have been reading the exchanges in this string.
I hereby declare Dr. Moran the winner, by virtue of his logic and
expertise.
j.
Moran has no expertise in the Revici Method, which means you have no
logic.
You have no expertise in the Revici Method either. In fact your level of
knowledge is that of a redundant school bus driver.
Wonder why?
You know, I drove a bus for five years and never killed or injured
anyone doing it......it's too bad you can't go a week without being
able to make the same claim in your 'profession.'
Driving a bus, and writing a book at the same time, and learning enough
to run rings around you and the moron with one hand tied behind my
back.
Before I came here, you two guys ruled the roost. Since my arrival,
you've had your asses handed to you time after time.
LOL. Funny; that's not how it looks to anyone but you. Bless.
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You guys are so WEAK that now someone is resorting to giving 5 stars
each time you guys post something, and 1 star when people like myself
do.
Next, the infantile secret star giver will probably be flinging poo. |
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awthrawthr@yahoo.com
medicine forum Guru Wannabe
Joined: 13 Mar 2006
Posts: 122
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| Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 9:38 pm Post subject:
Re: Revici and Kelley Eidem's claims The Winner is Dr. Moran!
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Mark Probert wrote:
| Quote: | You smiled, you spoke, and I believed wrote:
Peter Moran wrote:
Eidem (awthrawthr@yahoo.com ) has responded abusively to my request
for information (e.g. dates, biopsy results, other treatment received,
subsequent progress, and, ideally, source documentation of the
facts) about the patient whose photographs are shown at
http://members.bordernet.com.au/~pmoran/cancer/Revici.htm
I point out to him that it is his claims that are under examination,
not mine. As it now stands all we know for sure is that Lyall and
eight others (including some of those using the Revici treatment)
examined 33 cancer cases treated by Revici "or his appointed deputy"
under what to present knowledge is a most implausible and quite
completely unsubstantiated method of classifying cancer patients into
groups requiring quite different treatments. .
22 died. 8 left the study because they were unimproved by the
treatment. At the close of the study 15 months later only 3 patients
were still under Revici's care but all had signs of tumour progression.
Eidem, if you don't want the dustjacket of your book posted there I
will take it off, but leave the forty-year old photos. You have
already advised me that you don't know who owns copyright on them.
Peter Moran
I have been reading the exchanges in this string.
I hereby declare Dr. Moran the winner, by virtue of his logic and
expertise.
I read the responses to Dr. Moran's writings, and to your post.
Obviously, Dr. Moran's use of facts and logic scare the cleanse out of
these critters.
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?? You've got to be kidding! But then I'm not considering the source of
your comment...you. |
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Mark Probert
medicine forum Guru
Joined: 01 May 2005
Posts: 1720
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| Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 9:42 pm Post subject:
Re: Revici and Kelley Eidem's claims The Winner is Dr. Moran!
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awthrawthr@yahoo.com wrote:
| Quote: | cathyb wrote:
awthrawthr@yahoo.com wrote:
Steph wrote:
awthrawthr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149792086.415319.164980@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
You smiled, you spoke, and I believed wrote:
Peter Moran wrote:
Eidem (awthrawthr@yahoo.com ) has responded abusively to my request for
information (e.g. dates, biopsy results, other treatment received,
subsequent progress, and, ideally, source documentation of the facts)
about the patient whose photographs are shown at
http://members.bordernet.com.au/~pmoran/cancer/Revici.htm
I point out to him that it is his claims that are under examination,
not
mine. As it now stands all we know for sure is that Lyall and eight
others
(including some of those using the Revici treatment) examined 33 cancer
cases treated by Revici "or his appointed deputy" under what to present
knowledge is a most implausible and quite completely unsubstantiated
method
of classifying cancer patients into groups requiring quite different
treatments. .
22 died. 8 left the study because they were unimproved by the
treatment.
At the close of the study 15 months later only 3 patients were still
under
Revici's care but all had signs of tumour progression.
Eidem, if you don't want the dustjacket of your book posted there I
will
take it off, but leave the forty-year old photos. You have already
advised
me that you don't know who owns copyright on them.
Peter Moran
I have been reading the exchanges in this string.
I hereby declare Dr. Moran the winner, by virtue of his logic and
expertise.
j.
Moran has no expertise in the Revici Method, which means you have no
logic.
You have no expertise in the Revici Method either. In fact your level of
knowledge is that of a redundant school bus driver.
Wonder why?
You know, I drove a bus for five years and never killed or injured
anyone doing it......it's too bad you can't go a week without being
able to make the same claim in your 'profession.'
Driving a bus, and writing a book at the same time, and learning enough
to run rings around you and the moron with one hand tied behind my
back.
Before I came here, you two guys ruled the roost. Since my arrival,
you've had your asses handed to you time after time.
LOL. Funny; that's not how it looks to anyone but you. Bless.
You guys are so WEAK that now someone is resorting to giving 5 stars
each time you guys post something, and 1 star when people like myself
do.
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I would never give your posts one star. Considering that your highest
level of proof of your so-called ideas is a personal attack on Dr.
Moran, you should be emailing Google at least five stars per post. You
owe them at least that much.
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Mark Probert
medicine forum Guru
Joined: 01 May 2005
Posts: 1720
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| Posted: Fri Jun 09, 2006 9:44 pm Post subject:
Re: Revici and Kelley Eidem's claims The Winner is Dr. Moran!
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awthrawthr@yahoo.com wrote:
| Quote: | Mark Probert wrote:
You smiled, you spoke, and I believed wrote:
Peter Moran wrote:
Eidem (awthrawthr@yahoo.com ) has responded abusively to my request
for information (e.g. dates, biopsy results, other treatment received,
subsequent progress, and, ideally, source documentation of the
facts) about the patient whose photographs are shown at
http://members.bordernet.com.au/~pmoran/cancer/Revici.htm
I point out to him that it is his claims that are under examination,
not mine. As it now stands all we know for sure is that Lyall and
eight others (including some of those using the Revici treatment)
examined 33 cancer cases treated by Revici "or his appointed deputy"
under what to present knowledge is a most implausible and quite
completely unsubstantiated method of classifying cancer patients into
groups requiring quite different treatments. .
22 died. 8 left the study because they were unimproved by the
treatment. At the close of the study 15 months later only 3 patients
were still under Revici's care but all had signs of tumour progression.
Eidem, if you don't want the dustjacket of your book posted there I
will take it off, but leave the forty-year old photos. You have
already advised me that you don't know who owns copyright on them.
Peter Moran
I have been reading the exchanges in this string.
I hereby declare Dr. Moran the winner, by virtue of his logic and
expertise.
I read the responses to Dr. Moran's writings, and to your post.
Obviously, Dr. Moran's use of facts and logic scare the cleanse out of
these critters.
?? You've got to be kidding! But then I'm not considering the source of
your comment...you.
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I am surely not kidding. Your best proof, so far, has been ad hominem
attacks on Dr. Moran. When you raise your level of proof to
straightforward name calling, you may rate one star.
I'll let you know, and you should hold your breath until then. |
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awthrawthr@yahoo.com
medicine forum Guru Wannabe
Joined: 13 Mar 2006
Posts: 122
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| Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 3:56 am Post subject:
Re: Revici and Kelley Eidem's claims The Winner is Dr. Moran!
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Mark Probert wrote:
| Quote: | awthrawthr@yahoo.com wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
You smiled, you spoke, and I believed wrote:
Peter Moran wrote:
Eidem (awthrawthr@yahoo.com ) has responded abusively to my request
for information (e.g. dates, biopsy results, other treatment received,
subsequent progress, and, ideally, source documentation of the
facts) about the patient whose photographs are shown at
http://members.bordernet.com.au/~pmoran/cancer/Revici.htm
I point out to him that it is his claims that are under examination,
not mine. As it now stands all we know for sure is that Lyall and
eight others (including some of those using the Revici treatment)
examined 33 cancer cases treated by Revici "or his appointed deputy"
under what to present knowledge is a most implausible and quite
completely unsubstantiated method of classifying cancer patients into
groups requiring quite different treatments. .
22 died. 8 left the study because they were unimproved by the
treatment. At the close of the study 15 months later only 3 patients
were still under Revici's care but all had signs of tumour progression.
Eidem, if you don't want the dustjacket of your book posted there I
will take it off, but leave the forty-year old photos. You have
already advised me that you don't know who owns copyright on them.
Peter Moran
I have been reading the exchanges in this string.
I hereby declare Dr. Moran the winner, by virtue of his logic and
expertise.
I read the responses to Dr. Moran's writings, and to your post.
Obviously, Dr. Moran's use of facts and logic scare the cleanse out of
these critters.
?? You've got to be kidding! But then I'm not considering the source of
your comment...you.
I am surely not kidding. Your best proof, so far, has been ad hominem
attacks on Dr. Moran. When you raise your level of proof to
straightforward name calling, you may rate one star.
I'll let you know, and you should hold your breath until then.
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Awww...there's nothing I crave more than your acceptance and approval
ROFLMAO
BTW, we know you're not kidding...we also know that your your dead
serious about loving chemo and radiation. I hope you're not
disappointed in it when you get your fair share of it. |
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Rich
medicine forum Guru
Joined: 03 May 2005
Posts: 585
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| Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 4:00 am Post subject:
Re: Revici and Kelley Eidem's claims The Winner is Dr. Moran!
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<awthrawthr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149911783.862764.158220@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
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Mark Probert wrote:
awthrawthr@yahoo.com wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
You smiled, you spoke, and I believed wrote:
Peter Moran wrote:
Eidem (awthrawthr@yahoo.com ) has responded abusively to my request
for information (e.g. dates, biopsy results, other treatment
received,
subsequent progress, and, ideally, source documentation of the
facts) about the patient whose photographs are shown at
http://members.bordernet.com.au/~pmoran/cancer/Revici.htm
I point out to him that it is his claims that are under examination,
not mine. As it now stands all we know for sure is that Lyall and
eight others (including some of those using the Revici treatment)
examined 33 cancer cases treated by Revici "or his appointed deputy"
under what to present knowledge is a most implausible and quite
completely unsubstantiated method of classifying cancer patients
into
groups requiring quite different treatments. .
22 died. 8 left the study because they were unimproved by the
treatment. At the close of the study 15 months later only 3 patients
were still under Revici's care but all had signs of tumour
progression.
Eidem, if you don't want the dustjacket of your book posted there I
will take it off, but leave the forty-year old photos. You have
already advised me that you don't know who owns copyright on them.
Peter Moran
I have been reading the exchanges in this string.
I hereby declare Dr. Moran the winner, by virtue of his logic and
expertise.
I read the responses to Dr. Moran's writings, and to your post.
Obviously, Dr. Moran's use of facts and logic scare the cleanse out of
these critters.
?? You've got to be kidding! But then I'm not considering the source of
your comment...you.
I am surely not kidding. Your best proof, so far, has been ad hominem
attacks on Dr. Moran. When you raise your level of proof to
straightforward name calling, you may rate one star.
I'll let you know, and you should hold your breath until then.
Awww...there's nothing I crave more than your acceptance and approval
ROFLMAO
BTW, we know you're not kidding...we also know that your your dead
serious about loving chemo and radiation. I hope you're not
disappointed in it when you get your fair share of it.
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In a spirit of genuine kindness, I hope that if you ever get cancer that you
do not reject medical advice and turn instead to altie quackery for
treatment.
--
--Rich
Recommended websites:
http://www.ratbags.com/rsoles
http://www.acahf.org.au
http://www.quackwatch.org/
http://www.skeptic.com/
http://www.csicop.org/ |
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awthrawthr@yahoo.com
medicine forum Guru Wannabe
Joined: 13 Mar 2006
Posts: 122
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| Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 4:59 am Post subject:
Re: Revici and Kelley Eidem's claims The Winner is Dr. Moran!
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Rich wrote:
| Quote: | awthrawthr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149911783.862764.158220@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Mark Probert wrote:
awthrawthr@yahoo.com wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
You smiled, you spoke, and I believed wrote:
Peter Moran wrote:
Eidem (awthrawthr@yahoo.com ) has responded abusively to my request
for information (e.g. dates, biopsy results, other treatment
received,
subsequent progress, and, ideally, source documentation of the
facts) about the patient whose photographs are shown at
http://members.bordernet.com.au/~pmoran/cancer/Revici.htm
I point out to him that it is his claims that are under examination,
not mine. As it now stands all we know for sure is that Lyall and
eight others (including some of those using the Revici treatment)
examined 33 cancer cases treated by Revici "or his appointed deputy"
under what to present knowledge is a most implausible and quite
completely unsubstantiated method of classifying cancer patients
into
groups requiring quite different treatments. .
22 died. 8 left the study because they were unimproved by the
treatment. At the close of the study 15 months later only 3 patients
were still under Revici's care but all had signs of tumour
progression.
Eidem, if you don't want the dustjacket of your book posted there I
will take it off, but leave the forty-year old photos. You have
already advised me that you don't know who owns copyright on them.
Peter Moran
I have been reading the exchanges in this string.
I hereby declare Dr. Moran the winner, by virtue of his logic and
expertise.
I read the responses to Dr. Moran's writings, and to your post.
Obviously, Dr. Moran's use of facts and logic scare the cleanse out of
these critters.
?? You've got to be kidding! But then I'm not considering the source of
your comment...you.
I am surely not kidding. Your best proof, so far, has been ad hominem
attacks on Dr. Moran. When you raise your level of proof to
straightforward name calling, you may rate one star.
I'll let you know, and you should hold your breath until then.
Awww...there's nothing I crave more than your acceptance and approval
ROFLMAO
BTW, we know you're not kidding...we also know that your your dead
serious about loving chemo and radiation. I hope you're not
disappointed in it when you get your fair share of it.
In a spirit of genuine kindness, I hope that if you ever get cancer that you
do not reject medical advice and turn instead to altie quackery for
treatment.
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I've been there and done that. I cured my stage IV cancer for less than
$20. Thank you for your concern.
Seven years before UCLA found that capsaicin could shrink tumors by
80%, I used a combination of hot peppers, grated garlic, and a
tablespoon or two of emulsified fish oil each day. They didn't shrink
80%...they shrank 100%. About 15 lesions and pain. Twice. Because I
stopped, and they came back. The second time I continued the oil for a
while. No more lesions for the last 7 years.
I don't speak just from book knowledge, or from my two years of
research into Dr. Revici. Cancer scares me less than a cold. In fact
it doesn't scare me at all...but it is scared of me.
A hernia surgery did scare me, as did a recent roller coaster ride. The
night before the hernia surgery I absolutely could not sleep...went to
bed at 5 am for the 7:30 am appointment only because I forced myself to
bed.
But cancer? Naw...I didn't lose a minute of sleep over those weak
cells. |
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Steph
medicine forum Guru
Joined: 03 May 2005
Posts: 504
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| Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 2:08 pm Post subject:
Re: Revici and Kelley Eidem's claims The Winner is Dr. Moran!
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<awthrawthr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149915584.437680.285820@m38g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
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Rich wrote:
awthrawthr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149911783.862764.158220@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Mark Probert wrote:
awthrawthr@yahoo.com wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
You smiled, you spoke, and I believed wrote:
Peter Moran wrote:
Eidem (awthrawthr@yahoo.com ) has responded abusively to my
request
for information (e.g. dates, biopsy results, other treatment
received,
subsequent progress, and, ideally, source documentation of the
facts) about the patient whose photographs are shown at
http://members.bordernet.com.au/~pmoran/cancer/Revici.htm
I point out to him that it is his claims that are under
examination,
not mine. As it now stands all we know for sure is that Lyall
and
eight others (including some of those using the Revici treatment)
examined 33 cancer cases treated by Revici "or his appointed
deputy"
under what to present knowledge is a most implausible and quite
completely unsubstantiated method of classifying cancer patients
into
groups requiring quite different treatments. .
22 died. 8 left the study because they were unimproved by the
treatment. At the close of the study 15 months later only 3
patients
were still under Revici's care but all had signs of tumour
progression.
Eidem, if you don't want the dustjacket of your book posted there
I
will take it off, but leave the forty-year old photos. You have
already advised me that you don't know who owns copyright on
them.
Peter Moran
I have been reading the exchanges in this string.
I hereby declare Dr. Moran the winner, by virtue of his logic and
expertise.
I read the responses to Dr. Moran's writings, and to your post.
Obviously, Dr. Moran's use of facts and logic scare the cleanse out
of
these critters.
?? You've got to be kidding! But then I'm not considering the source
of
your comment...you.
I am surely not kidding. Your best proof, so far, has been ad hominem
attacks on Dr. Moran. When you raise your level of proof to
straightforward name calling, you may rate one star.
I'll let you know, and you should hold your breath until then.
Awww...there's nothing I crave more than your acceptance and approval
ROFLMAO
BTW, we know you're not kidding...we also know that your your dead
serious about loving chemo and radiation. I hope you're not
disappointed in it when you get your fair share of it.
In a spirit of genuine kindness, I hope that if you ever get cancer that
you
do not reject medical advice and turn instead to altie quackery for
treatment.
I've been there and done that. I cured my stage IV cancer for less than
$20. Thank you for your concern.
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Here we go again. Give us the details or put it away.
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Seven years before UCLA found that capsaicin could shrink tumors by
80%, I used a combination of hot peppers, grated garlic, and a
tablespoon or two of emulsified fish oil each day. They didn't shrink
80%...they shrank 100%. About 15 lesions and pain. Twice. Because I
stopped, and they came back. The second time I continued the oil for a
while. No more lesions for the last 7 years.
I don't speak just from book knowledge, or from my two years of
research into Dr. Revici. Cancer scares me less than a cold. In fact
it doesn't scare me at all...but it is scared of me.
A hernia surgery did scare me, as did a recent roller coaster ride. The
night before the hernia surgery I absolutely could not sleep...went to
bed at 5 am for the 7:30 am appointment only because I forced myself to
bed.
But cancer? Naw...I didn't lose a minute of sleep over those weak
cells.
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awthrawthr@yahoo.com
medicine forum Guru Wannabe
Joined: 13 Mar 2006
Posts: 122
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| Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 8:25 pm Post subject:
Re: Revici and Kelley Eidem's claims The Winner is Dr. Moran!
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Mark Probert wrote:
| Quote: | awthrawthr@yahoo.com wrote:
cathyb wrote:
awthrawthr@yahoo.com wrote:
Steph wrote:
awthrawthr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149792086.415319.164980@i39g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
You smiled, you spoke, and I believed wrote:
Peter Moran wrote:
Eidem (awthrawthr@yahoo.com ) has responded abusively to my request for
information (e.g. dates, biopsy results, other treatment received,
subsequent progress, and, ideally, source documentation of the facts)
about the patient whose photographs are shown at
http://members.bordernet.com.au/~pmoran/cancer/Revici.htm
I point out to him that it is his claims that are under examination,
not
mine. As it now stands all we know for sure is that Lyall and eight
others
(including some of those using the Revici treatment) examined 33 cancer
cases treated by Revici "or his appointed deputy" under what to present
knowledge is a most implausible and quite completely unsubstantiated
method
of classifying cancer patients into groups requiring quite different
treatments. .
22 died. 8 left the study because they were unimproved by the
treatment.
At the close of the study 15 months later only 3 patients were still
under
Revici's care but all had signs of tumour progression.
Eidem, if you don't want the dustjacket of your book posted there I
will
take it off, but leave the forty-year old photos. You have already
advised
me that you don't know who owns copyright on them.
Peter Moran
I have been reading the exchanges in this string.
I hereby declare Dr. Moran the winner, by virtue of his logic and
expertise.
j.
Moran has no expertise in the Revici Method, which means you have no
logic.
You have no expertise in the Revici Method either. In fact your level of
knowledge is that of a redundant school bus driver.
Wonder why?
You know, I drove a bus for five years and never killed or injured
anyone doing it......it's too bad you can't go a week without being
able to make the same claim in your 'profession.'
Driving a bus, and writing a book at the same time, and learning enough
to run rings around you and the moron with one hand tied behind my
back.
Before I came here, you two guys ruled the roost. Since my arrival,
you've had your asses handed to you time after time.
LOL. Funny; that's not how it looks to anyone but you. Bless.
You guys are so WEAK that now someone is resorting to giving 5 stars
each time you guys post something, and 1 star when people like myself
do.
I would never give your posts one star. Considering that your highest
level of proof of your so-called ideas is a personal attack on Dr.
Moran, you should be emailing Google at least five stars per post. You
owe them at least that much.
Next, the infantile secret star giver will probably be flinging poo.
Sound more like sour grapes.
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awthrawthr@yahoo.com
medicine forum Guru Wannabe
Joined: 13 Mar 2006
Posts: 122
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| Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 8:28 pm Post subject:
Re: Revici and Kelley Eidem's claims The Winner is Dr. Moran!
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Steph wrote:
| Quote: | awthrawthr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149915584.437680.285820@m38g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Rich wrote:
awthrawthr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149911783.862764.158220@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Mark Probert wrote:
awthrawthr@yahoo.com wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
You smiled, you spoke, and I believed wrote:
Peter Moran wrote:
Eidem (awthrawthr@yahoo.com ) has responded abusively to my
request
for information (e.g. dates, biopsy results, other treatment
received,
subsequent progress, and, ideally, source documentation of the
facts) about the patient whose photographs are shown at
http://members.bordernet.com.au/~pmoran/cancer/Revici.htm
I point out to him that it is his claims that are under
examination,
not mine. As it now stands all we know for sure is that Lyall
and
eight others (including some of those using the Revici treatment)
examined 33 cancer cases treated by Revici "or his appointed
deputy"
under what to present knowledge is a most implausible and quite
completely unsubstantiated method of classifying cancer patients
into
groups requiring quite different treatments. .
22 died. 8 left the study because they were unimproved by the
treatment. At the close of the study 15 months later only 3
patients
were still under Revici's care but all had signs of tumour
progression.
Eidem, if you don't want the dustjacket of your book posted there
I
will take it off, but leave the forty-year old photos. You have
already advised me that you don't know who owns copyright on
them.
Peter Moran
I have been reading the exchanges in this string.
I hereby declare Dr. Moran the winner, by virtue of his logic and
expertise.
I read the responses to Dr. Moran's writings, and to your post.
Obviously, Dr. Moran's use of facts and logic scare the cleanse out
of
these critters.
?? You've got to be kidding! But then I'm not considering the source
of
your comment...you.
I am surely not kidding. Your best proof, so far, has been ad hominem
attacks on Dr. Moran. When you raise your level of proof to
straightforward name calling, you may rate one star.
I'll let you know, and you should hold your breath until then.
Awww...there's nothing I crave more than your acceptance and approval
ROFLMAO
BTW, we know you're not kidding...we also know that your your dead
serious about loving chemo and radiation. I hope you're not
disappointed in it when you get your fair share of it.
In a spirit of genuine kindness, I hope that if you ever get cancer that
you
do not reject medical advice and turn instead to altie quackery for
treatment.
I've been there and done that. I cured my stage IV cancer for less than
$20. Thank you for your concern.
Here we go again. Give us the details or put it away.
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You want the details of the UCLA study? Do a search. If you want more
details on me, tough...I don't caste pearls before ignoramuses.
| Quote: | Seven years before UCLA found that capsaicin could shrink tumors by
80%, I used a combination of hot peppers, grated garlic, and a
tablespoon or two of emulsified fish oil each day. They didn't shrink
80%...they shrank 100%. About 15 lesions and pain. Twice. Because I
stopped, and they came back. The second time I continued the oil for a
while. No more lesions for the last 7 years.
I don't speak just from book knowledge, or from my two years of
research into Dr. Revici. Cancer scares me less than a cold. In fact
it doesn't scare me at all...but it is scared of me.
A hernia surgery did scare me, as did a recent roller coaster ride. The
night before the hernia surgery I absolutely could not sleep...went to
bed at 5 am for the 7:30 am appointment only because I forced myself to
bed.
But cancer? Naw...I didn't lose a minute of sleep over those weak
cells.
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Steph
medicine forum Guru
Joined: 03 May 2005
Posts: 504
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| Posted: Sat Jun 10, 2006 9:58 pm Post subject:
Re: Revici and Kelley Eidem's claims The Winner is Dr. Moran!
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<awthrawthr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149971285.830978.12420@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
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Steph wrote:
awthrawthr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149915584.437680.285820@m38g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Rich wrote:
awthrawthr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149911783.862764.158220@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Mark Probert wrote:
awthrawthr@yahoo.com wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
You smiled, you spoke, and I believed wrote:
Peter Moran wrote:
Eidem (awthrawthr@yahoo.com ) has responded abusively to my
request
for information (e.g. dates, biopsy results, other treatment
received,
subsequent progress, and, ideally, source documentation of
the
facts) about the patient whose photographs are shown at
http://members.bordernet.com.au/~pmoran/cancer/Revici.htm
I point out to him that it is his claims that are under
examination,
not mine. As it now stands all we know for sure is that
Lyall
and
eight others (including some of those using the Revici
treatment)
examined 33 cancer cases treated by Revici "or his appointed
deputy"
under what to present knowledge is a most implausible and
quite
completely unsubstantiated method of classifying cancer
patients
into
groups requiring quite different treatments. .
22 died. 8 left the study because they were unimproved by
the
treatment. At the close of the study 15 months later only 3
patients
were still under Revici's care but all had signs of tumour
progression.
Eidem, if you don't want the dustjacket of your book posted
there
I
will take it off, but leave the forty-year old photos. You
have
already advised me that you don't know who owns copyright on
them.
Peter Moran
I have been reading the exchanges in this string.
I hereby declare Dr. Moran the winner, by virtue of his logic
and
expertise.
I read the responses to Dr. Moran's writings, and to your post.
Obviously, Dr. Moran's use of facts and logic scare the cleanse
out
of
these critters.
?? You've got to be kidding! But then I'm not considering the
source
of
your comment...you.
I am surely not kidding. Your best proof, so far, has been ad
hominem
attacks on Dr. Moran. When you raise your level of proof to
straightforward name calling, you may rate one star.
I'll let you know, and you should hold your breath until then.
Awww...there's nothing I crave more than your acceptance and
approval
ROFLMAO
BTW, we know you're not kidding...we also know that your your dead
serious about loving chemo and radiation. I hope you're not
disappointed in it when you get your fair share of it.
In a spirit of genuine kindness, I hope that if you ever get cancer
that
you
do not reject medical advice and turn instead to altie quackery for
treatment.
I've been there and done that. I cured my stage IV cancer for less than
$20. Thank you for your concern.
Here we go again. Give us the details or put it away.
You want the details of the UCLA study? Do a search. If you want more
details on me, tough...I don't caste pearls before ignoramuses.
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awthrawthr@yahoo.com
medicine forum Guru Wannabe
Joined: 13 Mar 2006
Posts: 122
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| Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 12:18 am Post subject:
Re: Revici and Kelley Eidem's claims The Winner is Dr. Moran!
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Steph wrote:
| Quote: | awthrawthr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149971285.830978.12420@j55g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Steph wrote:
awthrawthr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149915584.437680.285820@m38g2000cwc.googlegroups.com...
Rich wrote:
awthrawthr@yahoo.com> wrote in message
news:1149911783.862764.158220@h76g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Mark Probert wrote:
awthrawthr@yahoo.com wrote:
Mark Probert wrote:
You smiled, you spoke, and I believed wrote:
Peter Moran wrote:
Eidem (awthrawthr@yahoo.com ) has responded abusively to my
request
for information (e.g. dates, biopsy results, other treatment
received,
subsequent progress, and, ideally, source documentation of
the
facts) about the patient whose photographs are shown at
http://members.bordernet.com.au/~pmoran/cancer/Revici.htm
I point out to him that it is his claims that are under
examination,
not mine. As it now stands all we know for sure is that
Lyall
and
eight others (including some of those using the Revici
treatment)
examined 33 cancer cases treated by Revici "or his appointed
deputy"
under what to present knowledge is a most implausible and
quite
completely unsubstantiated method of classifying cancer
patients
into
groups requiring quite different treatments. .
22 died. 8 left the study because they were unimproved by
the
treatment. At the close of the study 15 months later only 3
patients
were still under Revici's care but all had signs of tumour
progression.
Eidem, if you don't want the dustjacket of your book posted
there
I
will take it off, but leave the forty-year old photos. You
have
already advised me that you don't know who owns copyright on
them.
Peter Moran
I have been reading the exchanges in this string.
I hereby declare Dr. Moran the winner, by virtue of his logic
and
expertise.
I read the responses to Dr. Moran's writings, and to your post.
Obviously, Dr. Moran's use of facts and logic scare the cleanse
out
of
these critters.
?? You've got to be kidding! But then I'm not considering the
source
of
your comment...you.
I am surely not kidding. Your best proof, so far, has been ad
hominem
attacks on Dr. Moran. When you raise your level of proof to
straightforward name calling, you may rate one star.
I'll let you know, and you should hold your breath until then.
Awww...there's nothing I crave more than your acceptance and
approval
ROFLMAO
BTW, we know you're not kidding...we also know that your your dead
serious about loving chemo and radiation. I hope you're not
disappointed in it when you get your fair share of it.
In a spirit of genuine kindness, I hope that if you ever get cancer
that
you
do not reject medical advice and turn instead to altie quackery for
treatment.
I've been there and done that. I cured my stage IV cancer for less than
$20. Thank you for your concern.
Here we go again. Give us the details or put it away.
You want the details of the UCLA study? Do a search. If you want more
details on me, tough...I don't caste pearls before ignoramuses.
I want details of your stage IV cancer you cured for $20
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That's nice...I wanted a pony when I was a little kid.
My message dated 06/09/06 describing what I did is all you're going to
get...UCLA has helped to confirm one leg of the treatment...capsaicin
reducing cancer cells by 80%. By adding FRESHLY GRATED garlic each day
and the right oil, 100% die.
If you ever get cancer, Steph, instead of zapping yourself...which I'm
sure you have some trepidations about...splurge on some grocery store
peppers (habeneros) and garlic cloves, instead.
The same applies to chemo...you've probably seen enough of those folks
to have second thoughts about subjecting yourself to that 'treat,' too.
And if you want to keep all your 'parts' you could avoid the surgery,
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awthrawthr@yahoo.com
medicine forum Guru Wannabe
Joined: 13 Mar 2006
Posts: 122
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| Posted: Sun Jun 11, 2006 12:29 am Post subject:
Re: Revici and Kelley Eidem's claims The Winner isDr. Moran!
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You smiled, you spoke, and I believed wrote:
| Quote: | Vakker wrote:
You smiled, you spoke, and I believed <nospam@nospam.net> wrote in message
news:9cXhg.42300$fb2.38705@newssvr27.news.prodigy.net...
Peter Moran wrote:
Eidem (awthrawthr@yahoo.com ) has responded abusively to my request for
information (e.g. dates, biopsy results, other treatment received,
subsequent progress, and, ideally, source documentation of the facts)
about the patient whose photographs are shown at
http://members.bordernet.com.au/~pmoran/cancer/Revici.htm
I point out to him that it is his claims that are under examination, not
mine. As it now stands all we know for sure is that Lyall and eight
others
(including some of those using the Revici treatment) examined 33 cancer
cases treated by Revici "or his appointed deputy" under what to present
knowledge is a most implausible and quite completely unsubstantiated
method
of classifying cancer patients into groups requiring quite different
treatments. .
22 died. 8 left the study because they were unimproved by the
treatment.
At the close of the study 15 months later only 3 patients were still
under
Revici's care but all had signs of tumour progression.
Eidem, if you don't want the dustjacket of your book posted there I will
take it off, but leave the forty-year old photos. You have already
advised
me that you don't know who owns copyright on them.
Peter Moran
I have been reading the exchanges in this string.
I hereby declare Dr. Moran the winner, by virtue of his logic and
expertise.
j.
I hereby declare you an idiot, by virtue of your idiocy. Idiot.
Vakker.
your opinion is floccinaucinihilipilification.
j.
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