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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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 Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 11:02 am Post subject:
Re: Matthew 18:20
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wbarwell wrote:
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Correct.
The miracles come from LORD Jesus Christ.
"In the name of Jesus Christ of Nazareth, walk." -- Simon Peter (Acts
3:6b)
To understand this, simply surf the link under my name.
Still praying for your enslaved soul, dear William.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew
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wbarwell
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| Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:41 pm Post subject:
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If you don't work miracles shut up.
We only listen to true christians.
I'm still an Atheist, your prayers for my conversion don't work.
THE BIBLE, CHRISTIANS, AND MIRACLES
- AN ATHEIST MANIFESTO
*********************************************
Miracles. The bible promises we can work big
miracles. One either can or one cannot. No one
can.
Why?
1. Either the bible is untrue and the writers who
put these promises in the mouth of Jesus were
liars and idle tellers of tall tales, and
pious frauds.
or...
2. These promises are true and only real
Christians can work great miracles as promised
and those who can work no miracles are not
real Christians. Faux Christians at best.
True Christians are obviously extremely rare
at best
But if #2, then we should ignore all those who
cannot do miracles because they are obviously not
real Christians and can at best mislead us and
at best make us as one of them, false Christians,
probably damned if Matthew 7 is true. They can at
best teach us to become pseudo-Christians unable
to work miracles as they who cannot themselves
work miracles. They have nothing to teach us.
We then should as the only intelligent thing to
do, pay attention only to real Christians, those
who can as per Jesus's words, work great and
obvious miracles. Therefore, It is logical to pay
no attention to any self proclaimed Christian who
cannot work large, obvious miracles.
If no such Great miracle working Christians
exist, its most likely that #1 is true, the bible
lies, anonymous fools wrote stupid falsehoods.
So from now on, Christians, if you can't work the
promised big miracles, shut up. You have no right
to speak. You are not really a Christian. If you
cannot work the great miracles as promised, and
cannot point to those who demonstrably can now,
nothing you say is of value.
THE BIG MIRACLE PROMISES OF THE BIBLE
THE WORDS OF JESUS.
********************************************
John 14:12-14
12: Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that
believeth on me, the works that I do shall he
do also; and greater works than these shall
he do; because I go unto my Father.
13: And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name,
that will I do, that the Father may be glorified
in the Son
14: If ye shall ask any thing in my name,
I will do it.
Mark 11:23-4
For verily I say this unto you, That
whosoever shall say unto this mountain,
Be thou removed, and be thou cast
into the sea; and shall not doubt
in his heart, but shall believe that
those things which he saith shall
come to pass; he shall have whatsoever
he saith. Therefore I say unto you, What
things soever ye desire, when ye pray,
believe ye receive them and ye shall have
them.
Matthew 21:22
And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask
in prayer, believing, ye shall receive.
Matthew 18:19-20
Again I say unto you, that if two of you
shall agree on earth as touching anything
that they shall ask, it shall be done for
them of my father which is in heaven. For
where two or three are gathered in my name,
there I am in the midst of them.
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"Its the hit dog what yelps."
- Mark Twain
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wbarwell
medicine forum addict
Joined: 13 Dec 2005
Posts: 96
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| Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:43 pm Post subject:
Re: Matthew 18:20
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THE BIBLE, CHRISTIANS, AND MIRACLES
- AN ATHEIST MANIFESTO
*********************************************
Miracles. The bible promises we can work big
miracles. One either can or one cannot. No one
can.
Why?
1. Either the bible is untrue and the writers who
put these promises in the mouth of Jesus were
liars and idle tellers of tall tales, and
pious frauds.
or...
2. These promises are true and only real
Christians can work great miracles as promised
and those who can work no miracles are not
real Christians. Faux Christians at best.
True Christians are obviously extremely rare
at best
But if #2, then we should ignore all those who
cannot do miracles because they are obviously not
real Christians and can at best mislead us and
at best make us as one of them, false Christians,
probably damned if Matthew 7 is true. They can at
best teach us to become pseudo-Christians unable
to work miracles as they who cannot themselves
work miracles. They have nothing to teach us.
We then should as the only intelligent thing to
do, pay attention only to real Christians, those
who can as per Jesus's words, work great and
obvious miracles. Therefore, It is logical to pay
no attention to any self proclaimed Christian who
cannot work large, obvious miracles.
If no such Great miracle working Christians
exist, its most likely that #1 is true, the bible
lies, anonymous fools wrote stupid falsehoods.
So from now on, Christians, if you can't work the
promised big miracles, shut up. You have no right
to speak. You are not really a Christian. If you
cannot work the great miracles as promised, and
cannot point to those who demonstrably can now,
nothing you say is of value.
THE BIG MIRACLE PROMISES OF THE BIBLE
THE WORDS OF JESUS.
********************************************
John 14:12-14
12: Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that
believeth on me, the works that I do shall he
do also; and greater works than these shall
he do; because I go unto my Father.
13: And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name,
that will I do, that the Father may be glorified
in the Son
14: If ye shall ask any thing in my name,
I will do it.
Mark 11:23-4
For verily I say this unto you, That
whosoever shall say unto this mountain,
Be thou removed, and be thou cast
into the sea; and shall not doubt
in his heart, but shall believe that
those things which he saith shall
come to pass; he shall have whatsoever
he saith. Therefore I say unto you, What
things soever ye desire, when ye pray,
believe ye receive them and ye shall have
them.
Matthew 21:22
And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask
in prayer, believing, ye shall receive.
Matthew 18:19-20
Again I say unto you, that if two of you
shall agree on earth as touching anything
that they shall ask, it shall be done for
them of my father which is in heaven. For
where two or three are gathered in my name,
there I am in the midst of them.
***********************************************
--
"Its the hit dog what yelps."
- Mark Twain
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
medicine forum Guru
Joined: 25 Mar 2005
Posts: 8540
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| Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 12:55 pm Post subject:
Re: Matthew 18:20
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wbarwell wrote:
| Quote: | If you don't work miracles shut up.
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Sorry these posts continue to bother you so terribly. Please forgive
all my iniquities.
| Quote: | We only listen to true christians.
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Many thanks and praises to GOD that your reading this indicates that
you know that I am a true born-again Christian.
| Quote: | I'm still an Atheist, your prayers for my conversion don't work.
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If I asked GOD in Christ's name for your conversion into a puppet
without either free will or soul, it would no doubt happen.
Thank GOD, therefore, that I continue to pray for the salvation through
faith of your enslaved soul rather than its annihilation, dear William.
It remains my hope that you someday choose to place your faith in LORD
Jesus Christ and thereby receive HIS salvation.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew
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JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to
medicine forum Guru
Joined: 28 Nov 2005
Posts: 1072
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| Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 3:19 pm Post subject:
Re: Matthew 18:20
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
| Quote: | wbarwell wrote:
If you don't work miracles shut up.
Sorry these posts continue to bother you so terribly. Please forgive
all my iniquities.
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Non sequitur.
| Quote: | We only listen to true christians.
Many thanks and praises to GOD that your reading this indicates that
you know that I am a true born-again Christian.
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Non sequitur.
| Quote: | I'm still an Atheist, your prayers for my conversion don't work.
If I asked GOD in Christ's name for your conversion into a puppet
without either free will or soul, it would no doubt happen.
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Then you don't know if your prayers are working at all, do you? Which
means you're lying when you claim they are.
| Quote: | Thank GOD, therefore, that I continue to pray for the salvation through
faith of your enslaved soul rather than its annihilation, dear William.
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And you refuse to do so in your closet like your lord commands why?
| Quote: | It remains my hope that you someday choose to place your faith in LORD
Jesus Christ and thereby receive HIS salvation.
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And you have to keep telling everybody that why> |
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JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to
medicine forum Guru
Joined: 28 Nov 2005
Posts: 1072
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| Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 3:38 pm Post subject:
Re: Matthew 18:20
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
| Quote: | wbarwell wrote:
THE BIBLE, CHRISTIANS, AND MIRACLES
- AN ATHEIST MANIFESTO
*********************************************
Miracles. The bible promises we can work big
miracles.
Not only is it written in the Holy Bible that GOD promises HIS faithful
people the power of the Holy Spirit to perform miracles, there are
accounts of numerous miracles performed by Jesus' disciples and
apostles.
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Circular reasoning.
| Quote: | Indeed one such big miracle has occurred recently even here within
these usenet newsgroups:
http://tinyurl.com/f3uak
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There's nothing there, andy.
| Quote: | Simply witness that the Google archives indicate that the LORD has been
present among 4 of HIS faithful followers who have gathered in HIS name
and that HIS message is beyond the capacity of Google to contain.
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Unsupported assertions. |
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JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to
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Joined: 28 Nov 2005
Posts: 1072
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| Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 3:40 pm Post subject:
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
| Quote: | Scott Richter wrote:
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
If that were true, someone would be able to produce either HIS remains
or point to where HE is buried or at least refute the provided proof:
http://tinyurl.com/jjl29
So, are you saying Jimmy Hoffa ISN'T dead?
No.
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Yes. "If that were true, someone would be able to produce either HIS
remains or point to where HE is buried or at least refute the provided
proof:" According to your logic, since no remains or evidence can be
provided, he isn't dead. Congratulations. |
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JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to
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Posts: 1072
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Re: Matthew 18:20
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
| Quote: | Al wrote:
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
wbarwell wrote:
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Still praying for your pitiful soul, dear William.
As Chung becomes increasingly insulting ...
Your starting to believe in the existence of souls is a encouraging
change.
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Lying is a sin.
| Quote: | Such is the power of prayer.
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Unsupported assertion.
| Quote: | is he finally ready to crack?
The LORD continues to keep me completely well.
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Contradicted by evidence. |
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JessHC, aa#2220 thanks to
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Posts: 1072
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
| Quote: | wbarwell wrote:
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
wbarwell wrote:
Christianity is evil
A personal relationship with Christ is not evil.
Christ is dead,
If that were true, someone would be able to produce either HIS remains
or point to where HE is buried or at least refute the provided proof:
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Therefore, any instance where remains can't be produced indicates the
person in question is still alive, regardless the circumstances.
Bravo, Andy.
| Quote: | and Christians are evil.
Those who rebel against GOD are evil just as satan is evil.
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Rejecting unsupported assertions is neither rebellious nor evil. |
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Andrew P. Chung MD/Phd
medicine forum addict
Joined: 05 May 2006
Posts: 54
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| Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 3:56 pm Post subject:
Re: Matthew 18:20
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SO-WHEN TOMORROW COMES AND GOES WITH NOTHING HAPPENING-WILL YOU ALSO GO AWAY
CHUNG?
SUCK A COCK FOR CHRIST! |
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wbarwell
medicine forum addict
Joined: 13 Dec 2005
Posts: 96
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| Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 3:57 pm Post subject:
Re: Matthew 18:20
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THE BIBLE, CHRISTIANS, AND MIRACLES
- AN ATHEIST MANIFESTO
*********************************************
Miracles. The bible promises we can work big
miracles. One either can or one cannot. No one
can.
Why?
1. Either the bible is untrue and the writers who
put these promises in the mouth of Jesus were
liars and idle tellers of tall tales, and
pious frauds.
or...
2. These promises are true and only real
Christians can work great miracles as promised
and those who can work no miracles are not
real Christians. Faux Christians at best.
True Christians are obviously extremely rare
at best
But if #2, then we should ignore all those who
cannot do miracles because they are obviously not
real Christians and can at best mislead us and
at best make us as one of them, false Christians,
probably damned if Matthew 7 is true. They can at
best teach us to become pseudo-Christians unable
to work miracles as they who cannot themselves
work miracles. They have nothing to teach us.
We then should as the only intelligent thing to
do, pay attention only to real Christians, those
who can as per Jesus's words, work great and
obvious miracles. Therefore, It is logical to pay
no attention to any self proclaimed Christian who
cannot work large, obvious miracles.
If no such Great miracle working Christians
exist, its most likely that #1 is true, the bible
lies, anonymous fools wrote stupid falsehoods.
So from now on, Christians, if you can't work the
promised big miracles, shut up. You have no right
to speak. You are not really a Christian. If you
cannot work the great miracles as promised, and
cannot point to those who demonstrably can now,
nothing you say is of value.
THE BIG MIRACLE PROMISES OF THE BIBLE
THE WORDS OF JESUS.
********************************************
John 14:12-14
12: Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that
believeth on me, the works that I do shall he
do also; and greater works than these shall
he do; because I go unto my Father.
13: And whatsoever ye shall ask in my name,
that will I do, that the Father may be glorified
in the Son
14: If ye shall ask any thing in my name,
I will do it.
Mark 11:23-4
For verily I say this unto you, That
whosoever shall say unto this mountain,
Be thou removed, and be thou cast
into the sea; and shall not doubt
in his heart, but shall believe that
those things which he saith shall
come to pass; he shall have whatsoever
he saith. Therefore I say unto you, What
things soever ye desire, when ye pray,
believe ye receive them and ye shall have
them.
Matthew 21:22
And all things, whatsoever ye shall ask
in prayer, believing, ye shall receive.
Matthew 18:19-20
Again I say unto you, that if two of you
shall agree on earth as touching anything
that they shall ask, it shall be done for
them of my father which is in heaven. For
where two or three are gathered in my name,
there I am in the midst of them.
***********************************************
--
"Its the hit dog what yelps."
- Mark Twain
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Kurt Gavin
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| Posted: Mon Jun 05, 2006 6:19 pm Post subject:
chung, phony xian
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"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam2@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
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Simply walking along with Christ.
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Bullshit.
You're a phony even as a xian.
If I'm wrong, go to Darfur or some such place, where MD's are desparately
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liaM
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Kurt Gavin wrote:
| Quote: | "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam2@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
Simply walking along with Christ.
Bullshit.
You're a phony even as a xian.
If I'm wrong, go to Darfur or some such place, where MD's are desparately
needed.
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"life is hell" |
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nospam7@heartmdphd.com
medicine forum Guru
Joined: 27 Dec 2005
Posts: 470
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liaM wrote:
| Quote: | Kurt Gavin wrote:
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam2@heartmdphd.com> wrote in
Simply walking along with Christ.
Bullshit.
You're a phony even as a xian.
If I'm wrong, go to Darfur or some such place, where MD's are desparately
needed.
"life is hell"
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Not for those who have chosen to walk with Christ.
"We are simply passing through on HIS Way to heaven."
"Prepare the way for the LORD..."
The invitation is still open for you.
Do you really want to end up under satan who enjoys driving folks like
Kurt, Al, JessHC, SkumTaht, Flying Rat, Barry, tunder, William et al to
their profane behavior?
Still praying for you, dear liaM.
Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,
Andrew
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Stephen Knight
medicine forum beginner
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| Posted: Tue Jun 06, 2006 2:36 am Post subject:
Re: Matthew 18:20
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On 5 Jun 2006 05:55:09 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<nospam2@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
| Quote: | Many thanks and praises to GOD that your reading this indicates that
you know that I am a true born-again Christian.
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You're an MD/PhD and you write 'your' instead of 'you are' or
'you're'?
YOUR DUMB!
Warlord Steve
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