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Doc
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 Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 10:35 am Post subject:
How well regarded is Bill Sardi?
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Woke up to an infomercial on the radio for a multivitamin - Purity's Perfect
Multi Super Green, consisted of an interview with a Dr. Bill Sardi.
This same station for a long time used to run an infomercial in the same
time slot for some human growth hormone snakeoil crap that made unbelievably
brazen, outlandish claims - "stop and reverse the aging process" etc. with a
similarly sincere sounding spokesman who had a very scientific sounding
explanation of why this product was a miracle boon to mankind etc.
However, looking around the net I see Bill Sardi's name all over the place,
apparently has written extensively on the topic of nutrition and on the
Purity website his name is integrated with the product.
Anyone have any opinions on whether this guy a/or the product are legit?
http://www.purityproducts.com/product.asp?sku=57 |
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Doc
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| Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 10:38 am Post subject:
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"Doc" <docsavage20@xhotmail.comx> wrote in message
news:pnXbg.5099$y4.1397@newsread2.news.pas.earthlink.net...
| Quote: | Anyone have any opinions on whether this guy a/or the product are legit?
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I should have added, do you feel these vitamins worth the price or can you
get essentially the same thing for susbstantially less? |
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Doc
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| Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 10:40 am Post subject:
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Noting you're supposed to take 4 of these daily. |
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Juhana Harju
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| Posted: Sun May 21, 2006 11:00 am Post subject:
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Doc wrote:
: Woke up to an infomercial on the radio for a multivitamin - Purity's
: Perfect Multi Super Green, consisted of an interview with a Dr. Bill
: Sardi.
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: This same station for a long time used to run an infomercial in the
: same time slot for some human growth hormone snakeoil crap that made
: unbelievably brazen, outlandish claims - "stop and reverse the aging
: process" etc. with a similarly sincere sounding spokesman who had a
: very scientific sounding explanation of why this product was a
: miracle boon to mankind etc.
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: However, looking around the net I see Bill Sardi's name all over the
: place, apparently has written extensively on the topic of nutrition
: and on the Purity website his name is integrated with the product.
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: Anyone have any opinions on whether this guy a/or the product are
: legit?
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: http://www.purityproducts.com/product.asp?sku=57
It might be a good idea to post the same question to sci.life-extension.
There are people who are more knowledgeable about supplements.
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Juhana |
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monty1945@lycos.com
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| Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 6:48 am Post subject:
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You should only take a supplement if you know exactly why you are
taking it. Many people are selenium deficient, for example, but some
have too much. It's also important to take the right form. All the
"anti-aging" stuff is about "inflammation," which can be kept under
control with a diet of only trace amounts of unsaturated fatty acids
and hardly any oxidized cholesterol. Eating some berries, prunes, dark
chocolate, etc. is a good idea too. Use organic butter and dairy in
general (without additives, such as carrageenan), along with coconut
products as you major fat sources. |
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monty1945@lycos.com
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| Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 6:51 am Post subject:
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As to Sardi, he has written some good stuff, no doubt, but I'm only
interested in the connections one can make from the
biochemical/molecular level up to the level of "health" and "disease,"
and I read the original evidence and draw my own conclusions. I don't
want a "guru" or "expert" interpreting the evidence the way he/she
thinks is best. |
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GMCarter
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| Posted: Mon May 22, 2006 10:35 am Post subject:
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On 21 May 2006 23:51:31 -0700, monty1945@lycos.com wrote:
| Quote: | As to Sardi, he has written some good stuff, no doubt, but I'm only
interested in the connections one can make from the
biochemical/molecular level up to the level of "health" and "disease,"
and I read the original evidence and draw my own conclusions. I don't
want a "guru" or "expert" interpreting the evidence the way he/she
thinks is best.
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And yet your interpretation of the data leads you to say HIV does not
cause AIDS? Why should your opinions count for anything when you cling
to that fatally stupid fantasy?
As to Bill Sardi, what I like about him is the way he dissects some of
the recent spate of pharma-promoting propaganda put out by the AP and
other news sources attempting to discredit supplements by distorting
the data. A recent example being the nonsense about glucosamine and
chondroitin for osteoarthritis of the knee. For mild disease, placebo
worked almost as well with a slight edge for the COX-2 inhibitor (that
may give you a heart attack), celecoxib (Celebrex).
But for moderate-to-severe disease, the gluc+chond combo worked FAR
better than the Celebrex--but that is not what got reported! I read
the original NEJM article and this is the case. I first noted the
analysis here:
http://www.knowledgeofhealth.com/
George M. Carter |
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monty1945@lycos.com
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"And yet your interpretation of the data leads you to say HIV does not
cause AIDS? Why should your opinions count for anything..."
Because this forum is supposed to be based upon science, George, not
opinion, though you always seem to be blissfully unaware of this basic
fact. Few posting on this newsgroup are likely aware that I have asked
you, over and over again, to provide ONE experiment that adheres to the
scientific method and demonstrates that the "HIV" retrovirus was
isolated from all other possible agents that might cause a "positive"
result on the various "HIV tests," as well as evidence based upon the
scientific method that demonstrates exactly how this "virus" causes at
least one of 29 "diseases" about 10 years later, and that you have
never cited anything from the scientific literature.
Perhaps you would care to do so now, lest you risk looking like the
fool that you apparently are on a different newsgroup. Or perhaps you
simply enjoy the attention?
This newsgroup is sci.med.nutrition, not cult.georgecarter.infallible.
Please make a note of this before your next post.
For all others who read this: note that he never addresses the issues,
but simply attacks others peronally and brings up off-topic issues that
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GMCarter
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| Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 9:50 am Post subject:
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On 22 May 2006 21:46:18 -0700, monty1945@lycos.com wrote:
| Quote: | "And yet your interpretation of the data leads you to say HIV does not
cause AIDS? Why should your opinions count for anything..."
Because this forum is supposed to be based upon science,
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Then what the hell are you doing here? |
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mattlb@angelfire.com
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| Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 1:21 pm Post subject:
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monty1945@lycos.com wrote:
| Quote: | "And yet your interpretation of the data leads you to say HIV does not
cause AIDS? Why should your opinions count for anything..."
Because this forum is supposed to be based upon science, George, not
opinion,
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That's rich since all you have is opinion - either your own or the
received opinions of Ling et al.
| Quote: | Few posting on this newsgroup are likely aware that I have asked
you, over and over again, to provide ONE experiment that adheres to the
scientific method and demonstrates that the "HIV" retrovirus was
isolated from all other possible agents that might cause a "positive"
result on the various "HIV tests," as well as evidence based upon the
scientific method that demonstrates exactly how this "virus" causes at
least one of 29 "diseases" about 10 years later,
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Why not add "that can be repeated at home with common household
supplies" while you're at it? Isn't the fact that it can be passed by
transfusion enough for you? There's no way there'd be enough
arachidonic acid in a blood transfusion to do all the damage seen in
AIDS, but a replicative agent is different.
| Quote: | For all others who read this: note that he never addresses the issues,
but simply attacks others peronally and brings up off-topic issues that
often belong on an entirely different newsgroup.
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Hmm, you're either projecting or have confused yourself.
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Mr-Natural-Health
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| Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 2:32 pm Post subject:
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Doc wrote:
| Quote: | Woke up to an infomercial on the radio for a multivitamin - Purity's Perfect
Multi Super Green, consisted of an interview with a Dr. Bill Sardi.
Anyone have any opinions on whether this guy a/or the product are legit?
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Ha, ... hah, Ha!
Who was it that said there is a new sucker born every minute?
It always amazes me how anybody can ask this common question. Yet,
these stupid questions persist!!!
Infomercial commercials exist for the benefit of the seller. They
exist to get your money rather than educate you. All of them are total
rip offs by definition. Even if the product has benefits, you will
clearly be paying through the nose for it.
Frankly, I would like to see all radio, newspapers, magazines, and
television stations that broadcast infomercials be prosecuted for
conspiring to defraud the public out of their money. There is one AM
radio station in Richmond, VA that has been broadcasting for over a
decade every Sunday morning these infomercials that alternate with
religious broadcasts also trying to get your money. Clearly the public
is buying this crap because they are just a bunch of mindless suckers.
Newsflash: Infomercials are not a source of reliable information on
which vitamin supplements a person should be buying. |
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Doc
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| Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 2:58 am Post subject:
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"Mr. Natural-Health" <johngohde@naturalhealthperspective.com> wrote in
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| Quote: | Doc wrote:
Woke up to an infomercial on the radio for a multivitamin - Purity's
Perfect
Multi Super Green, consisted of an interview with a Dr. Bill Sardi.
Anyone have any opinions on whether this guy a/or the product are legit?
Ha, ... hah, Ha!
Who was it that said there is a new sucker born every minute?
It always amazes me how anybody can ask this common question. Yet,
these stupid questions persist!!!
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When you're done congratulating yourself on how much more brilliant than
everyone else you are, do you know anything about Bill Sardi? |
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Mr-Natural-Health
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| Posted: Sat May 27, 2006 12:56 pm Post subject:
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Doc wrote:
| Quote: | When you're done congratulating yourself on how much more brilliant than
everyone else you are, do you know anything about Bill Sardi?
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You have my condolences.
And, Bill Sardi is elated by your insistence on being defrauded. |
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Doc
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| Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 1:04 am Post subject:
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"Mr. Natural-Health" <johngohde@naturalhealthperspective.com> wrote in
message news:1148734562.579190.145230@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | Doc wrote:
When you're done congratulating yourself on how much more brilliant than
everyone else you are, do you know anything about Bill Sardi?
You have my condolences.
And, Bill Sardi is elated by your insistence on being defrauded.
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You may or may not have noticed, I asked a question looking for information.
You apparently have none to impart.
*plonking the assclown* |
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Mr-Natural-Health
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| Posted: Sun May 28, 2006 12:21 pm Post subject:
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Doc wrote:
| Quote: | "Mr. Natural-Health" <johngohde@naturalhealthperspective.com> wrote in
message news:1148734562.579190.145230@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Doc wrote:
When you're done congratulating yourself on how much more brilliant than
everyone else you are, do you know anything about Bill SardiSardi?
You have my condolences.
And, SardiSardi is elated by your insistence on being defrauded.
You may or may not have noticed, I asked a question looking for information.
You apparently have none to impart.
*plonkingassclownassclown*
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Yeah, ... I can see all the hordes of people on the Internet answering
your really seriously stupid question.
Just my opinion, but I am NEVER wrong when it comes to fools like you
who insist on being defrauded. Sardi after all is protected by the US
constitution. Fulltime journalist who just happens to like to take
advantage of the stupid people out there who believe that infomercials
are actually educational opportunities to improve themselves.
Have a nice life, idiot. |
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