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Sunday Express May 21 2006
5-in-1 jab 'made baby boy blind'
By Lucy Johnston
HEALTH EDITOR
A baby boy was temporarily blinded after being given the controversial
five-in-one vaccine jab, the Sunday Express can reveal today.
Kobi Hampshaw was three months old when he was given the jab and lost his
sight two days later.
His father Martin, 39, said: "One moment he was smiling up at his mother
while breast feeding and the next his head was moving violently from side
to side and he was trying to look over his shoulder. He was very confused
and upset.
"He could no longer fix and follow and couldn't see a light shining in his
eyes. He had been such a smiley baby. After the vaccine he just lay in his
cot not interested in anything. He looked brain damaged."
Kobi was given the first of his three doses of the five-in-one - which is
designed to protect children against diphtheria, tetanus, whooping cough,
Hib influenza and polio - in November 2004.
He had to be taken to hospital and over the following weeks had a series of
tests, including a brain scan. Doctors could only conclude that the
vaccination caused his blindness. With the support of their doctor and
leading eye specialists, the family now believe they have helped to
re-stimulate twenty-month-old Kobi's vision.
Print firm manager Martin said at the family home in Huddersfield: "We used
ultraviolet toys in a black booth and touchy feely toys.
"We never gave up. After two months he started to follow his favourite
black and white snoopy toy dog. Day by day little things have come back."
But Martin, and his wife Nicky, a 38-year-old child minder, are still
worried about Kobi's future.
Martin said: "He still trips up and his eyes don't look right. This is a
new vaccine, no one can tell us what will happen, no one knows. He may stop
learning, he may not come out of nappies until he is seven. Not a day goes
by when we are not tortured by what happened."
The Sunday Express can also reveal that doctors have reported 457
side-effects linked to the five-in-one jab since it was introduced 18
months ago. These include disorders of the heart, eyes, stomach, immune
system, nervous system and breathing problems.
The doctors' reports, including Kobi's case, were obtained by the Sunday
Express from the drug safety watchdog, the Medicines and Healthcare
Products Regulatory Authority, under the "yellow card" adverse
drug-reporting scheme.
Experts believe the true number of cases could be more than 4,500 because
doctors only notify an estimated 10 per cent of adverse drug reactions. The
MHRA has reports of up to five children who have experienced sight problems
following the jab, known as Pediacel.
Nicholas Kitchen, medical director of the vaccine's manufacturers Sanofi
Pasteur, said all drugs and vaccines had side-effects and those associated
with the five-in-one jab were all in the information leaflet inside each
dose "which parents should know about".
He added that the company logs all adverse reactions in order to spot any
patterns that might emerge. Blindness, he added "is not an expected
reaction to the jab." Last week the Sunday Express exposed clinical trials
which showed that babies risk brain damage, convulsions and even death
following the jab.
Sunday Express
Your Letters 21 May 2006
Tell truth on jabs
Congratulations on exposing the dangers of the new 5-in-1 vaccination
("Alert over new 5-in-1 'superdose' baby jabs", Sunday Express, May 14),
based on our report, available on www.wddty.co.uk.
All drugs must first prove their safety and parents reasonably assume the
same must apply to vaccinations for their children.
A Department of Health spokesman in your article tells readers that an
agency 'thoroughly assesses the evidence on the safety and efficacy of all
new vaccines'.
What we aren't told is that vaccines aren't always tested in the UK but in
countries with different test criteria.
It's time our health agencies put politics second and the welfare of our
children first.
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maxc246@yahoo.com
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But instead of pulling the 5-in-1 to find out why it's causing so many
problems, let's just keep sticking children with it. Maybe those
horror stories are mere coincidence. Maybe little Kobi would have
gone blind all on his own. I mean, who knows WHAT was in his mother's
breast milk. Heaven forbid profits should be reduced to consider the
safety of the children.
*This* is a prime example of why drug companies can not be trusted to
do the right thing. With the number of adverse reaction reports this
high in such a short amount of time, this product should have already
been pulled from the market. Don't try to convince me the drug
manufacturers have little Kobi's best interests at heart. I hope the
UK doesn't have laws to prevent Kobi's parents from sueing the
manufacturer as I believe is the case here in the U.S.
Thanks for the article, John.
Max.
john wrote:
| Quote: | Sunday Express May 21 2006
5-in-1 jab 'made baby boy blind'
By Lucy Johnston
HEALTH EDITOR
A baby boy was temporarily blinded after being given the controversial
five-in-one vaccine jab, the Sunday Express can reveal today.
Kobi Hampshaw was three months old when he was given the jab and lost his
sight two days later.
His father Martin, 39, said: "One moment he was smiling up at his mother
while breast feeding and the next his head was moving violently from side
to side and he was trying to look over his shoulder. He was very confused
and upset.
"He could no longer fix and follow and couldn't see a light shining in his
eyes. He had been such a smiley baby. After the vaccine he just lay in his
cot not interested in anything. He looked brain damaged."
Kobi was given the first of his three doses of the five-in-one - which is
designed to protect children against diphtheria, tetanus, whooping cough,
Hib influenza and polio - in November 2004.
He had to be taken to hospital and over the following weeks had a series of
tests, including a brain scan. Doctors could only conclude that the
vaccination caused his blindness. With the support of their doctor and
leading eye specialists, the family now believe they have helped to
re-stimulate twenty-month-old Kobi's vision.
Print firm manager Martin said at the family home in Huddersfield: "We used
ultraviolet toys in a black booth and touchy feely toys.
"We never gave up. After two months he started to follow his favourite
black and white snoopy toy dog. Day by day little things have come back."
But Martin, and his wife Nicky, a 38-year-old child minder, are still
worried about Kobi's future.
Martin said: "He still trips up and his eyes don't look right. This is a
new vaccine, no one can tell us what will happen, no one knows. He may stop
learning, he may not come out of nappies until he is seven. Not a day goes
by when we are not tortured by what happened."
The Sunday Express can also reveal that doctors have reported 457
side-effects linked to the five-in-one jab since it was introduced 18
months ago. These include disorders of the heart, eyes, stomach, immune
system, nervous system and breathing problems.
The doctors' reports, including Kobi's case, were obtained by the Sunday
Express from the drug safety watchdog, the Medicines and Healthcare
Products Regulatory Authority, under the "yellow card" adverse
drug-reporting scheme.
Experts believe the true number of cases could be more than 4,500 because
doctors only notify an estimated 10 per cent of adverse drug reactions. The
MHRA has reports of up to five children who have experienced sight problems
following the jab, known as Pediacel.
Nicholas Kitchen, medical director of the vaccine's manufacturers Sanofi
Pasteur, said all drugs and vaccines had side-effects and those associated
with the five-in-one jab were all in the information leaflet inside each
dose "which parents should know about".
He added that the company logs all adverse reactions in order to spot any
patterns that might emerge. Blindness, he added "is not an expected
reaction to the jab." Last week the Sunday Express exposed clinical trials
which showed that babies risk brain damage, convulsions and even death
following the jab.
Sunday Express
Your Letters 21 May 2006
Tell truth on jabs
Congratulations on exposing the dangers of the new 5-in-1 vaccination
("Alert over new 5-in-1 'superdose' baby jabs", Sunday Express, May 14),
based on our report, available on www.wddty.co.uk.
All drugs must first prove their safety and parents reasonably assume the
same must apply to vaccinations for their children.
A Department of Health spokesman in your article tells readers that an
agency 'thoroughly assesses the evidence on the safety and efficacy of all
new vaccines'.
What we aren't told is that vaccines aren't always tested in the UK but in
countries with different test criteria.
It's time our health agencies put politics second and the welfare of our
children first.
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Victoria Holistic Centre
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Max C. said:
| Quote: | I mean, who knows WHAT was in his mother's
breast milk.
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This is something that seriously bothers me. I realize you're not
putting it forth as a theory, just including it as another non-sensical
smoke screen question that we've all heard more times than we care to
think.
But since it peeved me, I thought I'd rant. <toothy grin>
If there was something harmful in the mother's breastmilk, the mother
would have had to ingested it, which would mean she's be ga-ga too.
The chemical make-up of breastmilk is a fraction of whatever it was mom
ingested. Yes, there are some exceptions, like drugs made from iodine,
but that would cause thyroid problems, not focus problems. Basically,
for mom to have enough chemicals in her breastmilk to cause health
damage in her baby, she'd have to be so pickled she couldn't function,
never mind recall that her baby was smiling.
Had to get that off my... umm... chest.
Charlotte
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maxc246@yahoo.com
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You need to brush up on your sarcasm. My entire first paragraph was
said tongue-in-cheek. I wasn't even slightly serious until my 2nd
paragraph.
Max.
Victoria Holistic Centre wrote:
| Quote: | Max C. said:
I mean, who knows WHAT was in his mother's
breast milk.
This is something that seriously bothers me. I realize you're not
putting it forth as a theory, just including it as another non-sensical
smoke screen question that we've all heard more times than we care to
think.
But since it peeved me, I thought I'd rant. <toothy grin
If there was something harmful in the mother's breastmilk, the mother
would have had to ingested it, which would mean she's be ga-ga too.
The chemical make-up of breastmilk is a fraction of whatever it was mom
ingested. Yes, there are some exceptions, like drugs made from iodine,
but that would cause thyroid problems, not focus problems. Basically,
for mom to have enough chemicals in her breastmilk to cause health
damage in her baby, she'd have to be so pickled she couldn't function,
never mind recall that her baby was smiling.
Had to get that off my... umm... chest.
Charlotte
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john
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| Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 8:36 am Post subject:
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| Quote: | The chemical make-up of breastmilk is a fraction of whatever it was mom
ingested. Yes, there are some exceptions, like drugs made from iodine,
but that would cause thyroid problems, not focus problems. Basically,
for mom to have enough chemicals in her breastmilk to cause health
damage in her baby, she'd have to be so pickled she couldn't function,
never mind recall that her baby was smiling.
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I don't agree with that, i know of one baby damaged from mother taking
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Victoria Holistic Centre
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| Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 8:26 pm Post subject:
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What kind of damage are you talking about? I'm curious because the
molecular weight of most antibiotics and the half-life of most
antibiotics means that most are pretty safe.
Care to expand?
Charlotte
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Victoria Holistic Centre
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| Posted: Tue May 23, 2006 8:28 pm Post subject:
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Max C. said:
| Quote: | You need to brush up on your sarcasm.
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Dear me. You can't mean I need to become *more* sarcastic. I'm not sure
that's possible.
Re-read my reply - I acknowledged you weren't putting forth a theory.
Charlotte
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john
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"Victoria Holistic Centre" <charlotte@victoriaholistic.com> wrote in message
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| Quote: | What kind of damage are you talking about? I'm curious because the
molecular weight of most antibiotics and the half-life of most
antibiotics means that most are pretty safe.
Care to expand?
Charlotte
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faint memory it was autism, was only talking to her last week as well, an ex
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john
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"Victoria Holistic Centre" <charlotte@victoriaholistic.com> wrote in message
news:1148415980.646390.216000@38g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
| Quote: | What kind of damage are you talking about? I'm curious because the
molecular weight of most antibiotics and the half-life of most
antibiotics means that most are pretty safe.
Care to expand?
Charlotte
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Is that safe when breastfeeding? as they certainly aren't safe
http://www.whale.to/drugs/antibiotics.html |
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Victoria Holistic Centre
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| Posted: Wed May 24, 2006 5:19 pm Post subject:
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John said:
| Quote: | faint memory it was autism, was only talking to her last week as well, an ex
nurse |
I suspect you're thinking about the MMR scare, because I have never
heard - ever - of antibiotics: a) passing through the breastmilk and
causing *anything* beyond an upset tummy in the baby, and b) causing
autism.
Here's the way it generally works - I say generally because the
exception is medication with a greater molecular weight than your
average antibiotics, like chemo drugs. For simplicity sake, I'll use
alcohol, because we all understand how alcohol works in the body.
Mom drinks red wine with an alcohol content of 12%. After drinking
enough wine to get sotted, she has a blood alcohol level of .04%, which
means she is now legally impaired. Because blood alcohol level and
breastmilk alcohol are the same (the drugs carry in on the plasma),
mom's breastmilk is .04% alcohol. Dealcoholized beer is also .04%,
which is another way of saying that mom's breastmilk doesn't contain
enough alcohol to do more than make baby sleep an extra hour or so.
Antibiotics work exactly the same way. Most have a very low molecular
weight and a very short half-life, so by the time mom's body has
processed the antibiotics, there's not much left in the breastmilk -
and certainly not enough to cause autism.
Charlotte
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John said:
Safe while breastfeeding and safe *period* are two separate questions.
As a general rule of thumb: if it's not safe for mama, it's not safe
for baby. (See also: why mothers shouldn't drink arsenic and
breastfeed.)
Though on a related note, I don't tend to use websites rife with
spelling mistakes and no references as good sources of unbiased
information.
Charlotte
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