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Norminn
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| Quote: | If your white cell count is 9.8 I think it's rather unlikely that your
lymphocytes would be 14.1. Again, what are the units.
I'm reminded of the apochrypal tale of the medical student with Hodgkin's
lymphoma who committed suicide for fear of the lymphome. At post mortem it
transpired there was nothing wrong with him.
Talk to your doctor.
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One of the more terrifying experiences in nursing school was being the
only student, of several who got mono, not to be sent home for a month.
Didn't even give me time off. It took more than all of my energy to
walk down the hall, not to mention patient care. THEN the health
service doc referred me to the hematologist who also ran the path lab.
My cervical nodes were huge, and he didn't need to palpate - just took a
look and ran some labs. Back to health service. I checked out the lab
values whilst the report laid on the doc's desk, and one liver function
test was worse than that of a patient I had who was in hepatic coma.
EEK! I was rather certain I was going to die, but afraid to ask when
 ) Took a year to get over it, but I didn't die )
Also had the bizarre experience of dog and child getting huge cervical
nodes at the same time. Called the doc's office, as I thought daughter
had mumps. Not very worried about dog at that point. Snotty nurse told
me she couldn't have mumps, as she had had vaccine. Take Tylenol and
don't call us again....... Both resolved. Dog had relapse. Huge nodes.
Didn't resolve this time, so off to vet. Lymphoma. |
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| Posted: Thu May 05, 2005 11:01 pm Post subject:
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After mthe mono did you have recurrent fevers? |
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Norminn
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stryped@hotmail.com wrote:
| Quote: | After mthe mono did you have recurrent fevers?
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No. Fairly high temp for couple days, which resolved quickly. Fatigue,
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M. Packer
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| Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 4:09 pm Post subject:
Re: Nursing school for my daughter
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| Quote: | On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:34:48 -0500, "Candide"
PityMePines@bigfoot.com> wrote:
schools could lose lots of money having fewer applicants.
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I wish that nursing schools had fewer applicants. Here in Western
Massachusetts, I have applied to four nursing schools. I will get into none
of them until Fall 2006. Do I just live in the wrong part of the
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Candide
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newsgroups01REMOVEME@intertainia.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:34:48 -0500, "Candide"
PityMePines@bigfoot.com> wrote:
schools could lose lots of money having fewer applicants.
I wish that nursing schools had fewer applicants. Here in Western
Massachusetts, I have applied to four nursing schools. I will get
into none
of them until Fall 2006. Do I just live in the wrong part of the
country?????
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No, nursing programs across the United States are reporting the same
situation.
Remember not too long ago nursing schools/programs were being closed.
This has lead to a major shortage of qualified nursing instructors. Also
many nurses with sonority were being fired left and right by managed
care/for profit hospitals that saw them as high cost items. It was from
those ranks potential nursing instructors would have come from, and
since it takes time to gain a MA in nursing, one isn't going to find an
easy solution to the problem.
Couple the above with high numbers of qualified applicants to nursing
programs and one has a serious problem. I'm only hoping that all these
new applicants are serious about nursing and not just entering the
profession because good jobs are hard to come by in their area. As it is
now, the retention rate for new grads can be a problem. |
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Bryan
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| Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 5:56 pm Post subject:
Re: Nursing school for my daughter
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M. Packer wrote:
| Quote: | newsgroups01REMOVEME@intertainia.com> wrote in message
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On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:34:48 -0500, "Candide"
PityMePines@bigfoot.com> wrote:
schools could lose lots of money having fewer applicants.
I wish that nursing schools had fewer applicants. Here in Western
Massachusetts, I have applied to four nursing schools. I will get into none
of them until Fall 2006. Do I just live in the wrong part of the
country?????
Not at all, but please keep waiting. The profession is in need of |
dedicated nurses, and even though it is not meant to be this way, the
waiting to enter a Nsg. program and finally be accepted can be as
telling about a potential nurse as any class could be. If a potential
Nsg school candidate doesn't have the patience to wait to get into a
full and successful program, it's not certain they would have remained
in the profession long anyway. I do not mean this as a blanket
statement, and I don't wish to offend, only pointing out that the
perseverance of waiting to get into the program can speak about the
candidates dedication to the profession.
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Candide
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| Posted: Mon May 09, 2005 6:58 pm Post subject:
Re: Nursing school for my daughter
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"Bryan" <cyberbmcd@optonline.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | M. Packer wrote:
newsgroups01REMOVEME@intertainia.com> wrote in message
news:4h1ju0dnmn9g42lo2t1815f5pcl37o6rgs@4ax.com...
On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:34:48 -0500, "Candide"
PityMePines@bigfoot.com> wrote:
schools could lose lots of money having fewer applicants.
I wish that nursing schools had fewer applicants. Here in Western
Massachusetts, I have applied to four nursing schools. I will get
into none
of them until Fall 2006. Do I just live in the wrong part of the
country?????
Not at all, but please keep waiting. The profession is in need of
dedicated nurses, and even though it is not meant to be this way, the
waiting to enter a Nsg. program and finally be accepted can be as
telling about a potential nurse as any class could be. If a potential
Nsg school candidate doesn't have the patience to wait to get into a
full and successful program, it's not certain they would have remained
in the profession long anyway. I do not mean this as a blanket
statement, and I don't wish to offend, only pointing out that the
perseverance of waiting to get into the program can speak about the
candidates dedication to the profession.
BKM RN
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???
Are we speaking of a convent/monastery or nursing? A profession as a
means of earning a living?
While one does expect and hope potential candidates to have dedication,
I for one don't know if I'd wait around two or more years to gain entry
with the promise of an equal or more years once admitted before
graduating. This could mean four or more years to complete a ADN
program, or six or more for the BSN. Altruism is all very well, but can
it put meat on the table?
If the long waiting period before entering a program was spent working
as a CNA, or even an LPN, then perhaps it might prove more useful. It
certainly would weed out those for whom bedside nursing isn't quite
right, and free up class space for those whom really have the mettle.
What the profession does not need is more RN's working for insurance
companies, or the like, there is a shortage of hands bedside, and that
is not going to change much until overall conditions change. Until those
conditions change things will run pretty much true to form. Large
numbers of newly minted grads will bolt from hospitals within a short
period of time.
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Bryan
medicine forum Guru Wannabe
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| Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 12:27 am Post subject:
Re: Nursing school for my daughter
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Candide wrote:
| Quote: | "Bryan" <cyberbmcd@optonline.net> wrote in message
news:YfPfe.25$HJ2.1@fe11.lga...
M. Packer wrote:
newsgroups01REMOVEME@intertainia.com> wrote in message
news:4h1ju0dnmn9g42lo2t1815f5pcl37o6rgs@4ax.com...
On Sat, 15 Jan 2005 14:34:48 -0500, "Candide"
PityMePines@bigfoot.com> wrote:
schools could lose lots of money having fewer applicants.
I wish that nursing schools had fewer applicants. Here in Western
Massachusetts, I have applied to four nursing schools. I will get
into none
of them until Fall 2006. Do I just live in the wrong part of the
country?????
Not at all, but please keep waiting. The profession is in need of
dedicated nurses, and even though it is not meant to be this way, the
waiting to enter a Nsg. program and finally be accepted can be as
telling about a potential nurse as any class could be. If a potential
Nsg school candidate doesn't have the patience to wait to get into a
full and successful program, it's not certain they would have remained
in the profession long anyway. I do not mean this as a blanket
statement, and I don't wish to offend, only pointing out that the
perseverance of waiting to get into the program can speak about the
candidates dedication to the profession.
BKM RN
???
Are we speaking of a convent/monastery or nursing? A profession as a
means of earning a living?
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Excuse me but one should be happy to finish Nursing School after only
two or four years and be considered a professional. Most "professions"
require far more schooling than Nursing does. To have to wait to enter
is not that big a deal.
As for your diatribe on the insurance companies, well, maybe you should
offer some ways those changes might be implemented without making a
simple blanket statement. Not everyone who bolts from Nsg. is running to
work for an insurance company. Most are leaving the profession
altogether after realizing it was much more difficult to do than they
ever imagined.
If you're looking to put meat on the table right now as opposed to many
years to come, by all means get a two year degree as a Vet, Tech, and
ask your friends who are RN's to pick up the tab when you go out to eat.
| Quote: |
While one does expect and hope potential candidates to have dedication,
I for one don't know if I'd wait around two or more years to gain entry
with the promise of an equal or more years once admitted before
graduating. This could mean four or more years to complete a ADN
program, or six or more for the BSN. Altruism is all very well, but can
it put meat on the table?
If the long waiting period before entering a program was spent working
as a CNA, or even an LPN, then perhaps it might prove more useful. It
certainly would weed out those for whom bedside nursing isn't quite
right, and free up class space for those whom really have the mettle.
What the profession does not need is more RN's working for insurance
companies, or the like, there is a shortage of hands bedside, and that
is not going to change much until overall conditions change. Until those
conditions change things will run pretty much true to form. Large
numbers of newly minted grads will bolt from hospitals within a short
period of time.
Candide
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Candide
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| Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 1:04 am Post subject:
Re: Nursing school for my daughter
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"Bryan" <cyberbmcd@optonline.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | Excuse me but one should be happy to finish Nursing School after only
two or four years and be considered a professional. Most "professions"
require far more schooling than Nursing does. To have to wait to enter
is not that big a deal.
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Not a big deal to whom? Suppose if one is on full financial aid, or has
someone else footing the bills and or has time to spend "waiting", then
it would be no problem. But we must face the fact for it is a fact not
everyone is entering the profession out of some lofty and noble goal.
Think it is sort of cruel for you to insist someone like a single mother
trying to better herself but at the same time has very real world
problems, "wait", until her number is called.
Suppose this same mother despite her best efforts can only manage a
decent 2.8 or even 3.0 GPA only to keep being shut out because each
class has a surplus 3.2s and above applying. Remember those 3.2s that
did not make the cut that time, will be in the same pool for the next
class (under your theory of waiting). In that scenario a person could
end up waiting two or more years to gain entry.
Most girls didn't wait back in the 1980's when schools were more
plentiful than they are now. Sure competition at some schools was always
tough, but many promptly transferred if they could upon not making it in
their first or second lottery.
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As for your diatribe on the insurance companies, well, maybe you
should
offer some ways those changes might be implemented without making a
simple blanket statement. Not everyone who bolts from Nsg. is running
to
work for an insurance company. Most are leaving the profession
altogether after realizing it was much more difficult to do than they
ever imagined.
If you're looking to put meat on the table right now as opposed to
many
years to come, by all means get a two year degree as a Vet, Tech, and
ask your friends who are RN's to pick up the tab when you go out to
eat. |
What is it you have against two year programs? You seem to be one of
those advocating the only proper entry into the profession is a BSN,
types. Which of course will never happen. They've been trying for years
so make the BSN mandatory and it hasn't caught on yet. One success (if
one can call it that), is the pretty much total demise of hospital based
diploma programs. Which in some quarters can be seen as a shame, since
many of those schools produced fine nurses.
Candide
Most of the RN's I know still doing
| Quote: | While one does expect and hope potential candidates to have
dedication,
I for one don't know if I'd wait around two or more years to gain
entry
with the promise of an equal or more years once admitted before
graduating. This could mean four or more years to complete a ADN
program, or six or more for the BSN. Altruism is all very well, but
can
it put meat on the table?
If the long waiting period before entering a program was spent
working
as a CNA, or even an LPN, then perhaps it might prove more useful.
It
certainly would weed out those for whom bedside nursing isn't quite
right, and free up class space for those whom really have the
mettle.
What the profession does not need is more RN's working for insurance
companies, or the like, there is a shortage of hands bedside, and
that
is not going to change much until overall conditions change. Until
those
conditions change things will run pretty much true to form. Large
numbers of newly minted grads will bolt from hospitals within a
short
period of time.
Candide
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Bryan
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| Posted: Tue May 10, 2005 11:58 am Post subject:
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Candide wrote:
| Quote: | "Bryan" <cyberbmcd@optonline.net> wrote in message
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Excuse me but one should be happy to finish Nursing School after only
two or four years and be considered a professional. Most "professions"
require far more schooling than Nursing does. To have to wait to enter
is not that big a deal.
Not a big deal to whom? Suppose if one is on full financial aid, or has
someone else footing the bills and or has time to spend "waiting", then
it would be no problem. But we must face the fact for it is a fact not
everyone is entering the profession out of some lofty and noble goal.
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The fact is your daughter and anyone else on that waiting list is
capable of taking all their prerequisite courses while waiting for the
Nsg spot to open up. Just because one can't get right into the Nsg
program doesn't mean they can't use the waiting time to take valuable
courses needed later on to attain their BSN if they so desire. Or even
to make the Nsg program a part time effort when they finally do get
accepted, thus enabling them to continue to work and put food on the table.
| Quote: | Think it is sort of cruel for you to insist someone like a single mother
trying to better herself but at the same time has very real world
problems, "wait", until her number is called.
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Sorry, but many of the RN's I went to school with had to do just that.
Those programs are not making you wait for fun, they don't have enough
competent instructors to teach the students that apply.
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Suppose this same mother despite her best efforts can only manage a
decent 2.8 or even 3.0 GPA only to keep being shut out because each
class has a surplus 3.2s and above applying. Remember those 3.2s that
did not make the cut that time, will be in the same pool for the next
class (under your theory of waiting). In that scenario a person could
end up waiting two or more years to gain entry.
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Yes that's true but unfortunately there aren't enough instructors to
teach the willing.
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If you're looking to put meat on the table right now as opposed to
many
years to come, by all means get a two year degree as a Vet, Tech, and
ask your friends who are RN's to pick up the tab when you go out to eat.
What is it you have against two year programs?
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Uh, nothing.
You seem to be one of
| Quote: | those advocating the only proper entry into the profession is a BSN,
types.
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Really? When exactly did I say that? You are misinterpreting what I
stated, My point was that the ADN or BSN is much more worthwhile to wait
and try to attain.
Which of course will never happen. They've been trying for years
| Quote: | so make the BSN mandatory and it hasn't caught on yet.
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Which is why so many people scoff at Nurses being called "professionals"
Fact is, if a BSN is required to be a RN then more people will respect
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Mortimer Schnerd, RN
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Bryan wrote:
| Quote: | Which is why so many people scoff at Nurses being called "professionals"
Fact is, if a BSN is required to be a RN then more people will respect
the profession.
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"People"? I'm already respected by people. If it's physicians specifically
you're referring to, I doubt a BSN is going to make much of a dent in their
impressions.
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Mortimer Schnerd, RN
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Bryan
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Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:
| Quote: | Bryan wrote:
Which is why so many people scoff at Nurses being called "professionals"
Fact is, if a BSN is required to be a RN then more people will respect
the profession.
"People"? I'm already respected by people. If it's physicians specifically
you're referring to, I doubt a BSN is going to make much of a dent in their
impressions.
Ah, actually the people I was referring to would be: management. I have |
no problem garnering respect from Physicians, it's the clowns who sign
the paychecks who are constantly deploring the profession. Sad part is,
many of them still have RN trailing their name. |
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Mortimer Schnerd, RN
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Bryan wrote:
| Quote: | Ah, actually the people I was referring to would be: management. I have
no problem garnering respect from Physicians, it's the clowns who sign
the paychecks who are constantly deploring the profession. Sad part is,
many of them still have RN trailing their name.
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Well, I guess what's fair is fair. I have no respect for management either.
The ones with RN after their names are generally the most worthless.
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Bryan
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Mortimer Schnerd, RN wrote:
| Quote: | The ones with RN after their names are generally the most worthless.
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sort of like this one:
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That card was attempted long before .. you ..
Actually I think it was the 'antisemitic' .. card ..
But .. the same card .. nonetheless ..
Last bastion of a fkg .. goof ..
Now should I post .. AGAIN .. your .. 'mentors' .. thoughts .. OF ..
the .. Semites .. ?
Heh .. heh .
FO .. creepy .. little .. fk ..
Who loves ya.
Tom
Jesus Was A Vegetarian!
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