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Mark A
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Lase Med INC <simmonshouse@comcast.net> wrote:
| Quote: | It is for real, and it is the wave of the future. Clinical trials over
the last twenty years are on file, but are not yet public due to the
medical establishment's interference and total non-cooperation.
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If you spend the time and effort working with the medical
establishment then I could see you being taken more seriously. Rushing
ahead without them only hurts your cause. The interference you are
coming up against is there most likely because you're playing with the
snake oil of unproven treatment.
If the clinical trials are available then present them. A
website on the internet (which by the way, looks like a 15 year old
girl's homepage, you really need to have that professionally re-done)
with a forum doesn't really qualify as clinical trials. If the trials
are valid, the findings should justify you. If they are so solid they
should stand up to any investigation. It sounds like it won't though.
I don't know about anyone else but when my Wife was sick I did
anything and went anywhere to help her. We chose a path that was best
for her. I think you're dangling something very dangerous in front of
people grasping for any kind of straw. False & unproven, hope.
The worst part is that it sounds like you're doing it to make
a buck. Shame on you.
Doug
www.jacquie.ca
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Steph
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"Lase Med INC" <simmonshouse@comcast.net> wrote in message
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| Quote: | "Steph" <steph@vancouvers.island> wrote in news:i2b8g.144061$7a.111104
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chemo and radiation (whose last success rate was somewhere around 25%).
What on earth do you mean by "whose last success rate was somewhere around
25%"
Success at what, specifically?
THE SUCCESS RATE OF C H E M O AND R A D I A T I O N!!!
What do you THINK I was talking about?
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You can say what you like, as loud as you like, but where did you get that
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Tim Jackson
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Lase Med INC wrote:
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PLEASE REPORT ME. OH PLEASE DO, FOR SPREADING THE WORD ABOUT A VALID
THERAPY THAT WORKS WONDERS, ON WHAT (UPON LAST REVIEW) WAS A "FREE
USENET"... FOR THE USE OF WHICH I PAY COMCAST DEARLY EACH MONTH!
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Usenet may be free, and contributors are basically free to say what they
want, and of course the rest of the community is also free to reply,
but a line is drawn at commercial advertising.
Regardless of what I may personally think of the product, it is
generally unacceptable to post advertising to groups which do not
specifically admit it. The "INC" at the end of the poster's name is a
bit of a give-away that this is indeed a commercial post.
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J
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Dougie wrote:
| Quote: | Lase Med INC <simmonshouse@comcast.net> wrote:
It is for real, and it is the wave of the future. Clinical trials over
the last twenty years are on file, but are not yet public due to the
medical establishment's interference and total non-cooperation.
If you spend the time and effort working with the medical
establishment then I could see you being taken more seriously. Rushing
ahead without them only hurts your cause. The interference you are
coming up against is there most likely because you're playing with the
snake oil of unproven treatment.
If the clinical trials are available then present them.[...]
False & unproven, hope.
The worst part is that it sounds like you're doing it to make
a buck.
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Well, nobody has to pay him (clinical trials are free is my understanding)
and it might be false hope but there's clinical trials recruiting..
If they want to learn the search operators and search themselves
http://www.clinicaltrials.gov/ct and wade through each as to criteria and
location or each person ask their oncologist to search for them.
J
Partial list....
46 studies were found. (searched on hyperthermia, cancer) which is a
non-selective search.
1. Recruiting Cisplatin, Metronomic Low-Dose Interferon Alfa, Gemcitabine,
and Fever-Range Whole-Body Hyperthermia in Treating Patients With
Inoperable or Metastatic Pancreatic Cancer
Conditions: Stage II Pancreatic Cancer; Stage III Pancreatic Cancer; Stage
IVA Pancreatic Cancer; Stage IVB Pancreatic Cancer; Recurrent Pancreatic
Cancer
2. Recruiting Hyperthermia With Chemotherapy for Locally Advanced or
Metastatic Pancreas Cancer
Condition: Pancreatic Neoplasms
3. Recruiting Whole Body Hyperthermia Combined With Chemotherapy in
Treating Patients With Metastatic Breast, Ovarian, Endometrial, or Cervical
Cancer
Conditions: Breast Cancer; Cervical Cancer; Endometrial Cancer; Male Breast
Cancer; Ovarian Epithelial Cancer; Ovarian Germ Cell Tumor
4. Recruiting Cisplatin and Radiation Therapy With or Without Hyperthermia
Therapy in Treating Patients With Cervical Cancer
Condition: Cervical Cancer
5. Recruiting Combination Chemotherapy With or Without Whole-Body
Hyperthermia in Treating Patients With Recurrent Ovarian Epithelial,
Fallopian Tube, or Peritoneal Cancer
Conditions: Fallopian Tube Cancer; Peritoneal Cavity Cancer; Recurrent
Ovarian Epithelial Cancer
6. Recruiting Chemotherapy With Whole Body Hyperthermia to Treat Resistant
Breast, Endometrial, Cervical and Ovarian Cancers
Conditions: Breast Neoplasms; Endometrial Neoplasms; Cervix Neoplasms;
Ovarian Neoplasms
7. Recruiting Moxifloxacin Compared With Ciprofloxacin/Amoxicillin in
Treating Fever and Neutropenia in Patients With Cancer
Conditions: Adult Solid Tumor; Fever, Sweats, and Hot Flashes;
Hematopoietic and Lymphoid Cancer; Infection; Neutropenia
8. Recruiting Cisplatin, Gemcitabine, Interferon Alfa, and Hyperthermia in
Treating Patients With Advanced Cancer
Condition: Unspecified Adult Solid Tumor, Protocol Specific
9. Recruiting Hyperthermia With Chemotherapy to Treat Inoperable or
Metastatic Tumors
Conditions: Melanoma; Head and Neck Neoplasms; Lung Neoplasms; Stomach
Neoplasms; Cholangiocarcinoma
10. Recruiting Low-Risk Fever and Neutropenia in Children With Cancer:
Safety and Efficacy of Oral Antibiotics in an Outpatient Setting
Conditions: Fever; Neutropenia; Cancer
11. Recruiting Hyperthermia, Radiation Therapy, Surgery, and Optional
Chemotherapy in Treating Patients With Soft Tissue Sarcoma of the Limbs
Conditions: Stage I Adult Soft Tissue Sarcoma; Stage II Adult Soft Tissue
Sarcoma; Stage III Adult Soft Tissue Sarcoma; Stage IV Adult Soft Tissue
Sarcoma
12. Recruiting Combination Chemotherapy With or Without Hyperthermia
Therapy in Treating Patients With Soft Tissue Sarcoma
Condition: Adult Soft Tissue Sarcoma
13. Recruiting Chemotherapy Treatment for Children With Intraocular
Germ-Line Retinoblastoma
Conditions: Retinoblastoma; Retinal Neoplasms
14. Recruiting Debulking and Chemotherapy with or without Intraperitoneal
Chemotherapy to Treat Peritoneal Carcinomatosis
Condition: Gastrointestinal Neoplasm
15. Recruiting Mitomycin as a Hyperthermic Peritoneal Perfusion in
Treating Patients With Malignant Ascites
Condition: Malignant Ascites
16. Recruiting Chemotherapy and Bevacizumab With or Without Radiofrequency
Ablation in Treating Unresectable Liver Metastases in Patients With
Colorectal Cancer
Conditions: Liver Metastases; Stage IV Colon Cancer; Stage IV Rectal Cancer
17. Recruiting Oxaliplatin and Capecitabine With or Without an Hepatic
Arterial Infusion With Floxuridine in Treating Patients Who Are Undergoing
Surgery and/or Ablation for Liver Metastases Due to Colorectal Cancer
Conditions: Liver Metastases; Stage IV Colon Cancer; Stage IV Rectal
Cancer; Adenocarcinoma of the Colon; Adenocarcinoma of the Rectum
18. Recruiting High-Intensity Focused Ultrasound in Treating Patients With
Locally Recurrent Prostate Cancer
Conditions: Stage I Prostate Cancer; Stage II Prostate Cancer; Recurrent
Prostate Cancer
19. Not yet recruiting Radiofrequency Ablation in Treating Patients With
Stage I Non-Small Cell Lung Cancer
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Tim Jackson
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RSimmons wrote:
| Quote: | http://www.lasemedinc.com
No surgery, no deadly chemo, no metastasizing radiation!
New technology with a 100% success rate. See website to find out if
LASE MED INC's patented LIESH therapy is right for YOU! |
Lase Med INC wrote:
| Quote: | Tim Jackson <tim@tim-jackson.co.uk> wrote in news:4460c297$0$543
$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net:
My wife had laser treatment for breast cancer in 1999. That treatment
had a similar lack of published results. The treatment was declared
successful. She died in 2000. On that basis 100% success is easy to
achieve.
I am terribly sorry about your wife, sir, but I would bet that before the
PDT, she was already "halfway killed" by chemo and radiation (whose last
success rate was somewhere around 25%). I am not trying to be
confrontational here, just trying to get the word out to some who may not
be aware of it.
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I'm quite sure she was killed by the cancer, thank you.
It would appear from the above that you are selling a non-approved and
unproven therapy as a replacement for the tried and tested,
evidence-based mainstream methods of treating cancer.
In my country that would not just be antisocial, it would be a criminal
offence. Are you sure it isn't in yours? Maybe a report to the FDA
would be in order.
(It might happen that some conscientious US citizen forwards this thread
to webcomplaints@ora.fda.gov .)
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RSimmons
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Dougie <nobody@nowhere.com> wrote
If the trials
| Quote: | are valid, the findings should justify you. If they are so solid they
should stand up to any investigation. It sounds like it won't though.
I don't know about anyone else but when my Wife was sick I did
anything and went anywhere to help her. We chose a path that was best
for her. I think you're dangling something very dangerous in front of
people grasping for any kind of straw. False & unproven, hope.
The worst part is that it sounds like you're doing it to make
a buck. Shame on you.
Doug
www.jacquie.ca
www.jacquie.ca/forum
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I guess you're right. It's much safer to go get irradiated and poisoned
by a process that has been PROVEN to kill and is perpetuated by a medical
mafia that puts making a buck second to actually helping people. What on
earth was I thinking?
I'll be sure to tell Dr. Carpenter that her life's work has been a big
mistake, that people really just want to die as quickly as possible, and
that her website should look exactly like every other bland and sterile
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SCHLOMO SCHMELLOWITZ
medicine forum beginner
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Tim Jackson <tim@tim-jackson.co.uk> wrote in news:4461b0f4$0$2532
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| Quote: | It would appear from the above that you are selling a non-approved and
unproven therapy as a replacement for the tried and tested,
evidence-based mainstream methods of treating cancer.
In my country that would not just be antisocial, it would be a criminal
offence. Are you sure it isn't in yours? Maybe a report to the FDA
would be in order.
(It might happen that some conscientious US citizen forwards this
thread
to webcomplaints@ora.fda.gov .)
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It would appear to me that you are a victim of warped "group-think." You
people really amaze me. If it were not FDA approved, then why would they
have spent the last decade doing FREE clinical trials? HELLO?
I think you SHOULD report me... maybe then you just might learn something
that you thought you knew about, but really didn't.
As for the username I am using, I use a news program that allows to to
put SCHLOMO SCHMELLOWITZ as a username if I choose to, I just put the
name of the company in there for consistency. |
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Steph
medicine forum Guru
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"Lase Med INC" <simmonshouse@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:Xns97BF42D6EB52Arsimmons133yahoocom@216.196.97.136...
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I guess you're right. It's much safer to go get irradiated and poisoned
by a process that has been PROVEN to kill and is perpetuated by a medical
mafia that puts making a buck second to actually helping people. What on
earth was I thinking?
I'll be sure to tell Dr. Carpenter that her life's work has been a big
mistake, that people really just want to die as quickly as possible, and
that her website should look exactly like every other bland and sterile
looking site on the web. Thanks for the input!
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Stop behaving like an 8 year old and answer the question I asked if you want
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Tim Jackson
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SCHLOMO SCHMELLOWITZ wrote:
| Quote: | Tim Jackson <tim@tim-jackson.co.uk> wrote in news:4461b0f4$0$2532
$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net:
It would appear from the above that you are selling a non-approved and
unproven therapy as a replacement for the tried and tested,
evidence-based mainstream methods of treating cancer.
In my country that would not just be antisocial, it would be a criminal
offence. Are you sure it isn't in yours? Maybe a report to the FDA
would be in order.
(It might happen that some conscientious US citizen forwards this
thread
to webcomplaints@ora.fda.gov .)
It would appear to me that you are a victim of warped "group-think." You
people really amaze me. If it were not FDA approved, then why would they
have spent the last decade doing FREE clinical trials? HELLO?
I think you SHOULD report me... maybe then you just might learn something
that you thought you knew about, but really didn't.
As for the username I am using, I use a news program that allows to to
put SCHLOMO SCHMELLOWITZ as a username if I choose to, I just put the
name of the company in there for consistency.
You are deliberately misrepresenting my words. |
You do not deny that you are spamming Usenet, I don't care what name you
use to do it.
I did not say it was not FDA approved for something, I wouldn't know
whether it was or not. But I am quite sure it is not approved for use
as an alternative to chemotherapy and/or radiotherapy.
As to reporting, that is largely up to your fellow citizens to decide
whether and to whom. I merely observe that what you are doing would be
illegal advertising here in the UK.
You may now have the last word, as I do not intend to participate any
further in this thread. I have said my piece.
Tim Jackson |
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J
medicine forum Guru
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J wrote:
| Quote: | Lase Med INC <simmonshouse@comcast.net> wrote:
It is for real, and it is the wave of the future. Clinical trials over
the last twenty years are on file, but are not yet public due to the
medical establishment's interference and total non-cooperation.
Well, nobody has to pay him (clinical trials are free is my understanding)
and it might be false hope but there's clinical trials recruiting..
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There are 4 phases of clinical trials. Each treatment being tested has to go
through all these phases
* Phase 1 trials look at whether a trial treatment is safe or has any
harmful effects. For trials of new drugs, the correct dose to give will also be
tested.
* Phase 2 trials look at whether a treatment works. Only a treatment that
has got through these 2 phases will go into phase 3 testing.
* Phase 3 trials test a new treatment against the existing standard
treatment. If it gives better results, it may become the new standard
treatment.
Usually, a new treatment has to go through a few phase 3 clinical trials before
doctors are confident enough to accept it as the new standard treatment. One
good trial result could happen by chance or because a trial was not very well
designed . This is not likely if several trials have the same results.
There are now trials called phase 4 trials. These are carried out after a drug
has been licensed. They collect information about side effects, safety and the
long term risks and benefits of a drug.
Clinical trials will not all result in new and better treatment. Some will
discover that the treatment being tested does not work. Or that it has side
effects that are much worse than with existing treatments. But, to researchers
and doctors, and in the end for patients, it is still useful to be able to rule
something out.
From: http://www.cancerhelp.org.uk/trials/understanding/default.asp?page=52
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From: RSimmons <simmonshouse@comcast.net>
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Lase Med INC wrote:
| Quote: | J <analyse@invalid> wrote in news:4460C81F.E010147D@execulink.com:
Lase Med INC wrote:
Tim Jackson <tim@tim-jackson.co.uk> wrote in
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RSimmons wrote:
http://www.lasemedinc.com
No, you won't find them on Quackwatch. I encourage anyone interested
to visit the site and learn the specifics and limitations of LIESH
treatment, or call the toll free office number listed there on the
site. It is for real, and it is the wave of the future. Clinical
trials over the last twenty years are on file, but are not yet public
http://www.lasemedinc.com
Your website is pretty but not credible.
hyperthemia's bunkum.
Both - at best, useless and at worst, dangerous.
You've been reported to Comcast for violating their AUP
http://www.comcast.net/terms/use.jsp
J - alt.support.cancer
PLEASE REPORT ME. OH PLEASE DO, FOR SPREADING THE WORD ABOUT A VALID
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Subject: Re: Now It's Cancer's Turn To DIE!
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Lase Med INC wrote:
| Quote: | Tim Jackson <tim@tim-jackson.co.uk> wrote in
news:44604a1a$0$534$ed2619ec@ptn-nntp-reader01.plus.net:
RSimmons wrote:
http://www.lasemedinc.com
No, you won't find them on Quackwatch. I encourage anyone interested to
visit the site and learn the specifics and limitations of LIESH
treatment, or call the toll free office number listed there on the site.
It is for real, and it is the wave of the future. Clinical trials over
the last twenty years are on file, but are not yet public due to the
medical establishment's interference and total non-cooperation. Patient
email addresses are available through the forum and upon request.
100% of what?
Where is the trial data, randomised studies, peer review references
etc.
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J W
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| Posted: Wed May 10, 2006 6:09 pm Post subject:
Re: Now It's Cancer's Turn To DIE!
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Group: sci.med.diseases.cancer Date: Tue, May 9, 2006, 11:05pm From:
nobody@nowhere.com (Dougie) wrote: in response to Lase Med INC'S post:
The worst part is that it sounds like you're doing it to make a buck.
Shame on you.
Doug
www.jacquie.ca
www.jacquie.ca/forum
...........................................................
And I suppose the drug companies and oncologist who charge 10-40
thousand dollars per bag of chemo that they give us and 125.00 per bag
just to hang them on a pole and connect them to our ports are doing
this out of the goodness of there hearts? Give me a break, everybody is
into disease treatment (NOT CURES) for the money. Do you really think
them drugs cost that kind of money to make?
They will cure cancer when they devise a disease to replace it so big
pharma can keep raking in the dough at the cost of innocent lives. The
same drug companies that produce these costly chemo drugs that are
scientifically proven to work in only about 3% of patients also make the
chemicals that are put in our food that cause the cancers to begin with.
If something is dangerous, don't sell it plain and simple. They took
most effective home yard pest chemicals off the market because they were
harmful to te water table and wildlife. Yet cigaerettes, booze and diet
sodas are the big three in terms of cancer causers in the world, why do
they still sell thm? In fact our school system just voted to allow only
diet sodas to be sold in middle & high schools in an effort to deal with
obesity.
America is the only country in the world that uses chlorine to purify
drinking water, every one else uses osmosis. Why do we use chlorine? Not
because it's better, but because it's cheap. Chlorine is the nation's
hidden assasin and is causing an enormous amount of health problems
including many forms of cancers. States in hot climates have higher
cancer rate because the water pipes are close to the surface since they
don't freeze like up north and being closer to the surface the heat
requires higher concentrations of chlorine to kill off bacteria and
algae. plus there are swimming pools at every other home which generates
a huge amount of chlorine gas. and here in Fla the heat, humdity and
nearness to sea level keeps that gas low to the ground where it is
breathed in unoticed. The shower is the worst culprit as the hot water
opens your pours to absorb more chlorine and the steam allows direct
inhalation of the chlorine.
My advice to anyone is put a filter system on your home that will remove
that chlorine, stop smoking, stop drinking or at least do it in
moderation, give up diet sodas and avoid proccessed sugar and the cancer
rates will begin to plummet. The average american consumes 140lbs uf
sugar per year which screws your gut PH all up and leads to candida
yeast overgrowth which causes a great deal of GI cancers and other
diseases.
I'm just as open to trying something new and untested as long as it
won't kill me and is reasonable in price as I am to trying traditional
tried medicines, let's not forget many cancer patients were cured over
the years with clinical trial drugs. We should not be so closed minded
and insulting to people with new ideas. That sort of treatment is why
many great ideas never make it to fruition. Don't forget chemo was
invented from poison mustard gas during a war and most chemo drugs
themselves are highly carcinigistic and corrosive. Most of them while
they help treat and in some cases do acheive NED status for lucky
patients, they also do serious damage to our bodies that set us up for
secondary cancers down the road. It's common knowledge that just working
around these chemicals, mixing and administering them can cause birth
defects for the workers. Why do you think you never see an oncologist
mix or administer them? In a recent poll of Canadian oncologist while
most agreed that chemo should be used by anyone with cancer, most said
that they personaly would not use them if they had cancer.
Given it's rate of success chemo isn't much above snake oil itself. I
read one oncolgist said and I beleive it. He said chemo won't cure you
but it may keep you alive long enough to cure yourself by making changes
to your environment (stress), eating and personal habbits, frame of mind
(positive attitude & faith) and getting at the root cause of your
disease and removing what caused it in the first place.
America has the highest rate of cancer in the world and it is directly
attributed to our standard amercan diet (SAD) many foreigners find after
moving here and adoptng our diets they start getting cancers. A human
body is like a computer, You put sh@t in, you get sh@t out.
Unfortunately I had to get stage 4 colon cancer to find that out.
If every single cancer patient in the world would take five mnutes a day
just to pray and ask god or whatever higher power you believe in to open
the minds, eyes and hearts of the doctors and scientists who study
cancer and show them the cure of this disease for all of us, it just
might make a difference. I believe God put everything we need to deal
with any situation here on this earth, we just have to find it. So many
diseases that were once thought to be incurable have been cured and I
believe there is a cure for cancer. I pray that it just needs to be
found yet and is not locked in a safe in secret so men can profit off
the treatments or worse yet was simply discounted, scoffed at and
forgotten about by people who need to see it written in stone before
they will believe it like the ones I see attacking this poster, that
would truly be sad.. Maybe it's real, maybe not but don't judge it and
toss t aside unless you have tried it and know it does or does not work,
by doing that you may be causing someone who might benefit by it to not
try it. There is only one judge. |
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Lase Med INC
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| Posted: Thu May 11, 2006 1:15 am Post subject:
Re: THANK YOU JONBOY!
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The medical mafia seems to be out in force, along with the thought
police. Do these people really live in a world that has yet to realize
the obvious RACKET in the chemo-rad protocols? My GOD! Did you see that
"official" FDA reprimand for "discouraging people" from using medically
proven pathways to death!?
jonboy42@webtv.net (J W) wrote in
news:2547-44622C64-48@storefull-3255.bay.webtv.net:
| Quote: | And I suppose the drug companies and oncologist who charge 10-40
thousand dollars per bag of chemo that they give us and 125.00 per bag
just to hang them on a pole and connect them to our ports are doing
this out of the goodness of there hearts? Give me a break, everybody
is into disease treatment (NOT CURES) for the money. Do you really
think them drugs cost that kind of money to make?
They will cure cancer when they devise a disease to replace it so big
pharma can keep raking in the dough at the cost of innocent lives. The
same drug companies that produce these costly chemo drugs that are
scientifically proven to work in only about 3% of patients also make
the chemicals that are put in our food that cause the cancers to begin
with.
If something is dangerous, don't sell it plain and simple. They took
most effective home yard pest chemicals off the market because they
were harmful to te water table and wildlife. Yet cigaerettes, booze
and diet sodas are the big three in terms of cancer causers in the
world, why do they still sell thm? In fact our school system just
voted to allow only diet sodas to be sold in middle & high schools in
an effort to deal with obesity.
America is the only country in the world that uses chlorine to purify
drinking water, every one else uses osmosis. Why do we use chlorine?
Not because it's better, but because it's cheap. Chlorine is the
nation's hidden assasin and is causing an enormous amount of health
problems including many forms of cancers. States in hot climates have
higher cancer rate because the water pipes are close to the surface
since they don't freeze like up north and being closer to the surface
the heat requires higher concentrations of chlorine to kill off
bacteria and algae. plus there are swimming pools at every other home
which generates a huge amount of chlorine gas. and here in Fla the
heat, humdity and nearness to sea level keeps that gas low to the
ground where it is breathed in unoticed. The shower is the worst
culprit as the hot water opens your pours to absorb more chlorine and
the steam allows direct inhalation of the chlorine.
My advice to anyone is put a filter system on your home that will
remove that chlorine, stop smoking, stop drinking or at least do it in
moderation, give up diet sodas and avoid proccessed sugar and the
cancer rates will begin to plummet. The average american consumes
140lbs uf sugar per year which screws your gut PH all up and leads to
candida yeast overgrowth which causes a great deal of GI cancers and
other diseases.
I'm just as open to trying something new and untested as long as it
won't kill me and is reasonable in price as I am to trying traditional
tried medicines, let's not forget many cancer patients were cured over
the years with clinical trial drugs. We should not be so closed minded
and insulting to people with new ideas. That sort of treatment is why
many great ideas never make it to fruition. Don't forget chemo was
invented from poison mustard gas during a war and most chemo drugs
themselves are highly carcinigistic and corrosive. Most of them while
they help treat and in some cases do acheive NED status for lucky
patients, they also do serious damage to our bodies that set us up for
secondary cancers down the road. It's common knowledge that just
working around these chemicals, mixing and administering them can
cause birth defects for the workers. Why do you think you never see an
oncologist mix or administer them? In a recent poll of Canadian
oncologist while most agreed that chemo should be used by anyone with
cancer, most said that they personaly would not use them if they had
cancer.
Given it's rate of success chemo isn't much above snake oil itself. I
read one oncolgist said and I beleive it. He said chemo won't cure you
but it may keep you alive long enough to cure yourself by making
changes to your environment (stress), eating and personal habbits,
frame of mind (positive attitude & faith) and getting at the root
cause of your disease and removing what caused it in the first place.
America has the highest rate of cancer in the world and it is directly
attributed to our standard amercan diet (SAD) many foreigners find
after moving here and adoptng our diets they start getting cancers. A
human body is like a computer, You put sh@t in, you get sh@t out.
Unfortunately I had to get stage 4 colon cancer to find that out.
If every single cancer patient in the world would take five mnutes a
day just to pray and ask god or whatever higher power you believe in
to open the minds, eyes and hearts of the doctors and scientists who
study cancer and show them the cure of this disease for all of us, it
just might make a difference. I believe God put everything we need to
deal with any situation here on this earth, we just have to find it.
So many diseases that were once thought to be incurable have been
cured and I believe there is a cure for cancer. I pray that it just
needs to be found yet and is not locked in a safe in secret so men can
profit off the treatments or worse yet was simply discounted, scoffed
at and forgotten about by people who need to see it written in stone
before they will believe it like the ones I see attacking this poster,
that would truly be sad.. Maybe it's real, maybe not but don't judge
it and toss t aside unless you have tried it and know it does or does
not work, by doing that you may be causing someone who might benefit
by it to not try it. There is only one judge.
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