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J
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PostPosted: Sat Jul 08, 2006 6:36 pm    Post subject: Re: What other renal cancer treatments should a man try? (X ray chest shots) Reply with quote

k wrote:

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Can he divide a standard 50mg Sutent capsule to 25mg or 12,5mg at home?

How's your father, Dmitry.
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 2:06 pm    Post subject: Re: What other renal cancer treatments should a man try? (X ray chest shots) Reply with quote

Thanks madiba for your opinion.
Does not trying Interleukin 2 subcutaneously make sence during the
two-week rest between the Sutent 50mg 30-day treatments?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 1:21 pm    Post subject: Re: What other renal cancer treatments should a man try? (X ray chest shots) Reply with quote

k <kopn@hotbox.ru> wrote:

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Dear madiba and others,
Does trying Interleukin 2 subcutaneously in a minimal dose make sence
now, after beginning taking the Sutent 50mg daily?
No. If the patient doesnt respond to Sutent then you still have IL2 to

fall back on. Giving too many substances affecting the immune system at
the same time is not a good idea..

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 18, 2006 10:18 am    Post subject: Re: What other renal cancer treatments should a man try? (X ray chest shots) Reply with quote

Dear madiba and others,
Does trying Interleukin 2 subcutaneously in a minimal dose make sence
now, after beginning taking the Sutent 50mg daily?
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PostPosted: Mon Apr 17, 2006 5:53 am    Post subject: Re: What other renal cancer treatments should a man try? (X ray chest shots) Reply with quote

Hello madiba and others.
I checked again, the patient has the clear cell RCC.
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 12:49 pm    Post subject: Re: What other renal cancer treatments should a man try? (X ray chest shots) Reply with quote

Thanks madiba!
Can he divide a standard 50mg Sutent capsule to 25mg or 12,5mg at home?
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 12:18 pm    Post subject: Re: What other renal cancer treatments should a man try? (X ray chest shots) Reply with quote

Thanks J!
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PostPosted: Thu Apr 06, 2006 10:36 am    Post subject: Re: What other renal cancer treatments should a man try? (X ray chest shots) Reply with quote

Thanks madiba.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:49 pm    Post subject: Re: What other renal cancer treatments should a man try? (X ray chest shots) Reply with quote

k <kopn@hotbox.ru> wrote:

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I did not know what a right costophrenic angle is.
Oh, its where the ribs meet the diaphragm laterally.

I described the lesion in it because it was a small zoomed x-ray so it
was available quicker than the others on that slow website.

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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 8:49 pm    Post subject: Re: What other renal cancer treatments should a man try? (X ray chest shots) Reply with quote

k <kopn@hotbox.ru> wrote:

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Thanks madiba.
Do you think that the immunotherapy speeded up progression to the stage
IV?
No.


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He received 30 tablets of Sutent yesterday. What is a probability that
the Sutent will help?
50-50. Glad to hear these new drugs are available in Russia.



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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 6:01 pm    Post subject: Re: What other renal cancer treatments should a man try? (X ray chest shots) Reply with quote

k wrote:

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Thanks madiba.
Do you think that the immunotherapy speeded up progression to the stage
IV?

I don't think so. I think it means the immunotherapy did not stop the
progression of the cancer.
Steph told another kidney cancer patient that it:
a) would not extend his life nor cure him
b) improve symptoms - he would have to see (apparently it did not for your
father because his lymph nodes are larger and his cough is worse)

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He received 30 tablets of Sutent yesterday. What is a probability that
the Sutent will help?

I do not know if Sutent would improve the prognosis that madiba gave you.
I do not know if it will shrink the lymph nodes.
He may need anti-nausea medicine, like Zofram
If he's trying it, here's information.
J
http://patient.cancerconsultants.com/renal_cancer_news.aspx?id=35441
Two phase II clinical trials were conducted by researchers from several
medical institutions in the U.S. to evaluate sunitinib in the treatment of
metastatic RCC. Both trials included patients with metastatic RCC who had
received prior therapy with immune-stimulating agents. Trial 1 included 63
patients enrolled in 2003, and Trial 2 included 106 patients enrolled in
2004. In both trials, sunitinib demonstrated promising results:

* Partial or complete shrinkage of cancer occurred in 40% of patients
in Trial 1 and 44% of patients in Trial 2.
* Stable disease lasting for at least 3 months was achieved in 27% of
patients in Trial 1 and 23% of patients in Trial 2.
* Median time to cancer progression was 8.7 months in Trial 1 and 8.1
months in Trial 2.
* Median overall survival was 16.4 months in Trial 1 and has not yet
been reached in Trial 2.
* Treatment was well tolerated, with the majority of side effects being
mild.
* Patients with good performance status (ability to maintain daily
activities) and those with higher hemoglobin levels had an improved
progression-free survival.
__________________________________
http://www.fda.gov/cder/drug/InfoSheets/patient/sunitinibPIS.htm
Do not take Sutent if you are allergic to Sutent or any of its ingredients.

The following are the major possible risks and side effects of Sutent
therapy:
* stomach and digestive system problems. Some common stomach and
digestive system side effects include:
* diarrhea
* nausea
* mouth sores
* indigestion
* vomiting

* an adrenal gland problem called adrenal insufficiency. This can
make it harder for your body to handle the stress of surgery, an infection,
or an injury. Tell your healthcare professional right away if you have an
injury, an infection, or need surgery. Your adrenal function will have to
be monitored closely.

* skin and hair changes. Sutent may cause your skin to turn yellow and
hair to lose color. Other possible skin side effects include:
* dryness
* thickness or cracking
* blister or rash on the palms of hands and soles of the feet

* Other common side effects that may occur with Sutent include:
* tiredness
* high blood pressure
* bleeding
* swelling
* mouth pain and irritation
* taste changes

What Should I Tell My Healthcare Professional?
Before you start taking Sutent, tell your healthcare professional if you:
* have any heart problems
* have an adrenal gland problem
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 5:57 am    Post subject: Re: What other renal cancer treatments should a man try? (X ray chest shots) Reply with quote

Thanks madiba.
Do you think that the immunotherapy speeded up progression to the stage
IV?
He received 30 tablets of Sutent yesterday. What is a probability that
the Sutent will help?
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 5:45 am    Post subject: Re: What other renal cancer treatments should a man try? (X ray chest shots) Reply with quote

I did not know what a right costophrenic angle is.
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PostPosted: Wed Apr 05, 2006 5:44 am    Post subject: Re: What other renal cancer treatments should a man try? (X ray chest shots) Reply with quote

I did not know what a right costophrenic angle is?
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PostPosted: Tue Apr 04, 2006 1:31 pm    Post subject: Re: What other renal cancer treatments should a man try? (X ray chest shots) Reply with quote

k <kopn@hotbox.ru> wrote:

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Dear madiba,
Did you mean http://chestshot.narod.ru/index_files/image003.jpg by the
right costophrenic angle?
I assume its that one. What difference does it make?



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