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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 7:28 am    Post subject: Re: Bill Gates Reply with quote

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Quote:
korax1214@gmail.com wrote:
guy wrote:
I like to stir things up. It makes people think.

Indeed; it makes people think that you're a spamming moron. :-)

Name-calling remains a crutch for those bitterly hobbling along without
strength from the truth.


Crutches are not cathartic.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:39 am    Post subject: Re: Strength is from GOD and not from men. Reply with quote

calvin12@sysko.com wrote:
Quote:
"SMC has been blessed by GOD.

What has GOD's blessing will never be destroyed."

True,

It remains true.

Quote:
but yyou are not the one who gets to decide what God does,

Correct.

Quote:
you have no power over Him in the least.

Correct again.

Quote:
Smc has been destroyed,

That is not what I discern.

Quote:
it is a swamp of contention not related to its topic.

LORD Jesus Christ is the ultimate cardiologist.

HE has made me one too.

For this reason, most assuredly, any discussions about either or both
of US is 100% related to the topic of cardiology and is therefore
on-topic for sci.med.cardiology.

Truth is simple.

Truth is invincible.

Truth is absolute.

"I am the way, the truth, and the life... " - LORD Jesus Christ

Amen !

Laus Deo !

Marana tha !

You will be in my prayers, dear Calvin.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:39 am    Post subject: Re: Walking with Christ Jesus leads to a more abundant life on earth. Reply with quote

Hawkeye-X wrote:
Quote:
On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 22:07:54 -0600, John <john9212112@aol.com> wrote:
On 20 Jul 2006 20:01:06 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
nospam8@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
John wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 22:31:52 GMT, "R. Pierce Butler"
spamsucks@google.com> wrote:
"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:zlDvg.174619$F_3.59500@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net:
Hawkeye-X wrote:
I have spoken with his colleague, and I have discovered that Andrew B.
Chung was fired in Florida for CAUSE.

Chungy, what do you think Dr. Hildner said about you?

I'd love to hear it.

DO NOT TRY TO DENY IT!

Hawkeye-X

For a doctor to speak badly about another doctor is a pretty rare thing
and usually implies something beyond gross incompetence.

In my experience, gross incompetence is enough to do it.

Yes, Dr. Hildner may be grossly incompetent. After all, he struck
first - and against a newbie. Probably felt threatened by the new
guy's training and knowledge. Somebody more secure in their
leadership role would probably have spent a little more time
attempting to mentor rather than what he did. I know, I my leadership
roles, I've had to mentor some of the new graduates for quite a while
before being able to turn them loose to create on their own.

It was impossible for Dr. Hildner to have any leadership role when he
no longer had a physical presence at the workplace because he no longer
had an office. As I helped him carry out one the boxes of his desk
items to his car in 2001, there was a woodcarved desksign with his name
on it. One of the CFHC staff shared his story of how there was once a
snake that got into the office and the woodcarving was used to beat the
snake to death. Dr. Hildner had stopped seeing patients and performing
procedures **prior** to my starting at CFHC in 2001.

May our LORD's peace remain with you, dear brother.

Thank you Andrew.

I guess I should have stated I was arguing from the premise that even
if everything Dr. Hildner said in that e-mail was true, what
inferences could reasonably be drawn. And that without regard to all
the self-serving blather such as standing on his "reputation". My
experience is that a good reputation can remain unspoken or else it
doesn't exist.

Trust me. His reputation is zero.

Actually, Dr. Hildner's reputation remains **less** than zero.

Still praying for both you and Dr. Hildner, dear neighbor.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:39 am    Post subject: Re: Walking with Christ Jesus leads to a more abundant life on earth. Reply with quote

Hawkeye-X wrote:
Quote:
On 20 Jul 2006 20:01:06 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
nospam8@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
John wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 22:31:52 GMT, "R. Pierce Butler"
spamsucks@google.com> wrote:
"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:zlDvg.174619$F_3.59500@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net:
Hawkeye-X wrote:
I have spoken with his colleague, and I have discovered that Andrew B.
Chung was fired in Florida for CAUSE.

Chungy, what do you think Dr. Hildner said about you?

I'd love to hear it.

DO NOT TRY TO DENY IT!

Hawkeye-X

For a doctor to speak badly about another doctor is a pretty rare thing
and usually implies something beyond gross incompetence.

In my experience, gross incompetence is enough to do it.

Yes, Dr. Hildner may be grossly incompetent. After all, he struck
first - and against a newbie. Probably felt threatened by the new
guy's training and knowledge. Somebody more secure in their
leadership role would probably have spent a little more time
attempting to mentor rather than what he did. I know, I my leadership
roles, I've had to mentor some of the new graduates for quite a while
before being able to turn them loose to create on their own.

It was impossible for Dr. Hildner to have any leadership role when he
no longer had a physical presence at the workplace because he no longer
had an office. As I helped him carry out one the boxes of his desk
items to his car in 2001, there was a woodcarved desksign with his name
on it. One of the CFHC staff shared his story of how there was once a
snake that got into the office and the woodcarving was used to beat the
snake to death. Dr. Hildner had stopped seeing patients and performing
procedures **prior** to my starting at CFHC in 2001.

May our LORD's peace remain with you, dear brother.

Uh Andrew. Wrong again.

The LORD keeps me right.

Quote:
Twisted mind and all that. It was, in fact,
YOU that was forcibly escorted out of CFHC by Dr. Hildner and the fact
that Dr. Hildner is still with CFHC and has been for 14 years.

What I have described above was my first day at CFHC.

As for my last day at CFHC, no one escorted me out forcibly or
otherwise. The CFHC administrator, Ron Babcock gave me a very nice
letter that apologized for "things not working out" and requested that
I leave after returning certain items to him. He was the last person
that I saw on the last day as I placed the items he had requested on
the desk at his office just as one might turn over a badge and gun if
one were in law enforcement upon dismissal. This letter remains posted
on HeartMDPhD.com and has been reviewed by all who have been
interested. It fits well with everything else that I have that prove
my termination was indeed "without cause" that they could publicly
acknowledge.

Quote:
See what Xtian fundamentalism has gotten you into? Lying in the name
of Lord, and just plain kookery.

I believe you actually know the truth but are presently choosing to
bear false witness.

Bottomline: You are untruthful as is Dr. Hildner.

Still praying for both of you, dear neighbor.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:39 am    Post subject: Re: Walking with Christ Jesus leads to a more abundant life on earth. Reply with quote

John wrote:
Quote:
On 20 Jul 2006 20:01:06 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
nospam8@heartmdphd.com> wrote:
John wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 22:31:52 GMT, "R. Pierce Butler"
spamsucks@google.com> wrote:
"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:zlDvg.174619$F_3.59500@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net:
Hawkeye-X wrote:
I have spoken with his colleague, and I have discovered that Andrew B.
Chung was fired in Florida for CAUSE.

Chungy, what do you think Dr. Hildner said about you?

I'd love to hear it.

DO NOT TRY TO DENY IT!

Hawkeye-X

For a doctor to speak badly about another doctor is a pretty rare thing
and usually implies something beyond gross incompetence.

In my experience, gross incompetence is enough to do it.

Yes, Dr. Hildner may be grossly incompetent. After all, he struck
first - and against a newbie. Probably felt threatened by the new
guy's training and knowledge. Somebody more secure in their
leadership role would probably have spent a little more time
attempting to mentor rather than what he did. I know, I my leadership
roles, I've had to mentor some of the new graduates for quite a while
before being able to turn them loose to create on their own.

It was impossible for Dr. Hildner to have any leadership role when he
no longer had a physical presence at the workplace because he no longer
had an office. As I helped him carry out one the boxes of his desk
items to his car in 2001, there was a woodcarved desksign with his name
on it. One of the CFHC staff shared his story of how there was once a
snake that got into the office and the woodcarving was used to beat the
snake to death. Dr. Hildner had stopped seeing patients and performing
procedures **prior** to my starting at CFHC in 2001.

May our LORD's peace remain with you, dear brother.

Thank you Andrew.

Would redirect your thanks to our LORD from Whom all blessings flow.

Quote:
I guess I should have stated I was arguing from the premise that even
if everything Dr. Hildner said in that e-mail was true, what
inferences could reasonably be drawn. And that without regard to all
the self-serving blather such as standing on his "reputation". My
experience is that a good reputation can remain unspoken or else it
doesn't exist.

In truth, his reputation was and is not very good.

Had a promise of autonomy from him not been given by CFHC with the
assurance that they were retiring him, I would not have gone down there
to Ocala in the first place.

However, knowing full well that the Holy Spirit led me to go down there
to the pit of snakes that is Ocala and then brought me back to Atlanta,
I would still do it all over again without changing anything.

May the Holy Spirit continue to guide you in finding GOD's purpose for
you, dear brother.

Amen !

Laus Deo !

Marana tha !

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:39 am    Post subject: Re: Bill Gates Reply with quote

Pastor Kutchie wrote:
Quote:
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
korax1214@gmail.com wrote:
guy wrote:
I like to stir things up. It makes people think.

Indeed; it makes people think that you're a spamming moron. :-)

Name-calling remains a crutch for those bitterly hobbling along without
strength from the truth.

Crutches are not cathartic.

Nor is name-calling.

May GOD help you with your poor self-esteem, dear neighbor.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:39 am    Post subject: Re: Able to walk through locked doors - HE is risen ! Reply with quote

::: veralein ::: wrote:
Quote:
In news:1153360460.636444.281520@75g2000cwc.googlegroups.com,
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD <nospam2@heartmdphd.com> typed:
St Dog the Wet wrote:
Athanasius wrote:
On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 16:59:07 -0700, St Dog the Wet
g.aedhealic@yahoo.com> wrote:

Athanasius wrote:
On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 18:43:51 -0500, "sensi" <sensi4sight@home.net
wrote:

Athanasius,
sensi:
Do you mean as in skin?
No I mean as in Bright Light and that form which can pass through
solid doors. :-)

Athanasius, can you give the scripture which states "he can (or
did) pass through solid doors"??

maybe you think walls and doors are somehow fluid substances?

maybe you could quote the Scripture which states "walls and doors
are fluid".:-)

Please post with the word "solid" highlighted....

No I mean as in Bright Light and that form which can pass through
SOLID doors. Smile
Thanks.... ;-)

Oh, so, you've made a statement and can not support it...

I thought so... ;-)

Think again. Locked doors cannot keep the risen Christ Jesus out.

"On the evening of that first day of the week, when the disciples were
together, with the doors locked for fear of the Jews, Jesus came and
stood among them and said, 'Peace be with you!'" (John 20:19)

Hallelujah! Jesus overcame death!

All who believe in Him can have eternal life - and it is free:


Revelation 22:17 WEB The Spirit and the bride say, "Come!" He who hears,
let him say, "Come!" He who is thirsty, let him come. He who desires,
let him take the water of life freely.


::: vera :::

Thirsty **and** very hungry, I remain humbled by LORD GOD Almighty.

In this state, in my weakness HIS strength is perfected.

And so I will forever praise HIM, thank HIM, and glorify HIM.

Amen !

Laus Deo !

Marana tha !

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:39 am    Post subject: Re: Able to walk through locked doors - HE is risen ! Reply with quote

Kurt Gavin wrote:
Quote:
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam2@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1153368030.169266.128640@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
Kurt Gavin wrote:
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam2@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message

How's the fast?

Would not be possible without the help of the Holy Spirit.

Put a pic up with your shirt off.

That would be a departure from my walk with Christ Jesus toward a
circus side-show.

Quote:
That would be very indicative.

It would be against the LORD's infinite will.

Quote:
You should have lost somewhere around 25 pounds.

The LORD has pinched off around that amount in reshaping me.

Still praying for you, dear Kurt.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 8:40 am    Post subject: Re: Able to walk through locked doors - HE is risen ! Reply with quote

Kurt Gavin wrote:
Quote:
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam2@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:1153367677.196292.93650@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com...
Kurt Gavin wrote:
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <nospam2@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message

I thought so... ;-)

Think again. Locked doors cannot keep the risen Christ Jesus out.

...and yet he couldn't get off that cross... (assuming he even ever
existed).

HE could but simply chose not to for our sakes.

Really?

Yes.

Quote:
Why?

LORD Jesus Christ has the foreknowledge that if HE had come down from
the cross and never died, HE would lose all the faithful, who are all
those who love HIM, to all the faithless who love only HIS power.

Quote:
How do you know, and don't cite myth stories.

The LORD has filled me with HIS Holy Spirit, Who is the Great
Counselor, Revealer of all mysteries.

Quote:
How do you know in terms of objective evidence?

The same way I know all other things.

LORD GOD Almighty is the Source of all knowledge and wisdom.

Still praying for you, dear Kurt.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 9:02 am    Post subject: Re: CHUNG WAS FIRED FOR CAUSE!!!!! Reply with quote

On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 22:44:36 -0600, Hawkeye-X
<hawkeyex-nntp@comcast.net> wrote:
- Refer: <9pm0c2hoef54vam5hnu5mu532h5b7nthv6@4ax.com>
Quote:
On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 20:26:25 -0700, jason@nospam.com (Jason Johnson)
wrote:

In article <a7g0c259tjavf0kbkvt6avg83jhm8n74ep@4ax.com>, Hawkeye-X
hawkeyex-nntp@comcast.net> wrote:

On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 17:20:04 -0600, John <john9212112@aol.com> wrote:

On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 22:31:52 GMT, "R. Pierce Butler"
spamsucks@google.com> wrote:

"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:zlDvg.174619$F_3.59500@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net:

Hawkeye-X wrote:
I have spoken with his colleague, and I have discovered that Andrew B.
Chung was fired in Florida for CAUSE.

Chungy, what do you think Dr. Hildner said about you?

I'd love to hear it.

DO NOT TRY TO DENY IT!

Hawkeye-X

For a doctor to speak badly about another doctor is a pretty rare thing
and usually implies something beyond gross incompetence.




In my experience, gross incompetence is enough to do it.

Yes, Dr. Hildner may be grossly incompetent. After all, he struck
first - and against a newbie. Probably felt threatened by the new
guy's training and knowledge. Somebody more secure in their
leadership role would probably have spent a little more time
attempting to mentor rather than what he did. I know, I my leadership
roles, I've had to mentor some of the new graduates for quite a while
before being able to turn them loose to create on their own.

Blessings,
John

Actually based on what Dr. Hildner told me, Chung was completely
incompetent. Re-read what Hildner told him on his letter.

Hawkeye-X

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hawkey-X,
For the sake of discussion, let's assume that Dr. Hildner was correct in
everything that he wrote in his letter. How was Doctor Chung able to
graduate
from medical college and become a cardiologist if he is "completely
incompetent"? Doctor Chung still treats patients at his office. If he
truly was "completely incompetent", he would not be allowed to treat
patients.
Perhaps Dr. Hildner has an opinion that Dr. Hildner is completely
incompetent but that does not mean that every other doctor in that
hospital has that same attitude about Dr. Chung.
Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Then why does he NOT have any admitting rights to ANY hospitals in
Georgia? Because of his problems in Florida, which the resolution was
sent nationwide to all medical boards, and all hospitals, knowing that
Chung is truly grossly incompetent to be a doctor and is trying to
weasel his way out by using his Xtian fundamentalistic behavior.

He doesn't even practice in Georgia, despite his claims to do so. He
is licensed, yes, but not currently practicing. Why do you think he
spends all of his time on the Usenet k00king out like the weasel he
is?

Hawkeye-X

He now works out of a garden centre.
Honestly.

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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 9:16 am    Post subject: Re: Able to walk through locked doors - HE is risen ! Reply with quote

On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 23:21:57 -0600, Hawkeye-X
<hawkeyex-nntp@comcast.net> wrote:

Quote:
On 20 Jul 2006 22:01:01 -0700, "The Lord, pt. II"
chungismybeyotch@yahoo.com> wrote:

Hawkeye-X wrote:
I'd rather see Chung pull a rabbit out of his ass. Now that would be a
miracle.

Pulling his once-promising career out of the toilet would be an even
greater miracle.

Agreed. Even Hildner was begging Chung to get his head out of his own
ass.

Hawkeye-X

chung is so full of s**t. jesus said to witness to all the people of
the earth, not to shove it down their throats.

er, sorry. ill just go now.

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Dave Hillstrom mhm15x4 zrbj
"I can't find my puppy, can you help me find him? I think he went
into this cheap motel room."
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 10:11 am    Post subject: Christ, in whom are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge. Reply with quote

"Mark T" wrote:
Quote:
"Mrs Franky Poo Roines" <roines@mindspring.com> wroteth:

Jesus is the Son of God the Father.
That makes him God

Franky Poo Roines is the Son of Mrs Roines the Mother

That makes Franky Poo Mrs Roines!!!!

No. Being of this world, you remain bound by the basic principles of
the world, its hollow and deceptive philosophy instead of being freed
by Christ.

GOD is an infinite being. There is room in all of existence for only
One GOD. According to Revelation, GOD has seven Spirits. GOD the
Father, GOD the Son, Who is LORD Jesus Christ, and the Holy Spirit are
three of the seven spirits, together they are One as GOD.

"My purpose is that they may be encouraged in heart and united in love,
so that they may have the full riches of complete understanding, in
order that they may know the mystery of GOD, namely, Christ, in whom
are hidden all the treasures of wisdom and knowledge." (Colossians
2:2-3)

Still praying for you, dear Mark.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:03 am    Post subject: Re: OT Time to say Goodbye for a While Reply with quote

On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 14:37:55 -0400, "Robibnikoff"
<witchypoo@broomstick.com> Huffed and Puffed the following into the
madness of usenet:

Quote:

"Nico Kadel-Garcia" <nkadel@comcast.net> wrote in message
news:up6dnT6hIroH6CLZnZ2dnUVZ_rOdnZ2d@comcast.com...
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
Quentin Grady wrote:
G'day G'day Folks,

For some reason that escapes me there seems to be few newbies about
these days.

This is what happens when folks start using the 2PD-OMER Approach to
become lean&trim thereby curing their metabolic sydndrome (MetS) which
is the precursor to type 2 diabetes.

What, Chung lost another hospital job so he starts spouting his nonsense
veiled in bible-violating aggessive christianity, *AGAIN*?

Maybe that nail polish remover he sprinkles over his food is starting to
melt his brain Razz


whatever the cause of chung's mental damage, don't ever drink cool aid
made by him or his church of nuttery.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:06 am    Post subject: CHUNG EVADES AGAIN Reply with quote

Michael Gray wrote:
Quote:
On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 22:44:36 -0600, Hawkeye-X
hawkeyex-nntp@comcast.net> wrote:

Then why does he NOT have any admitting rights to ANY hospitals in
Georgia? Because of his problems in Florida,
He doesn't even practice in Georgia, despite his claims to do so. He
is licensed, yes, but not currently practicing.

Seems strange that with all his bull s**t, this is NOT directly
addressed by Chung the Liar. Why would any doctor NOT want admitting rights?
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 11:08 am    Post subject: Bull s**t Commeth Reply with quote

Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:
(blah, blah, blah)


The "know it all LIAR" goes on and on and on...
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