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Athanasius
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:13 am    Post subject: Re: The reason Christ Jesus cursed the fig tree. Reply with quote

On 20 Jul 2006 23:03:01 -0500, bob young <alaspectrum@netvigator.com>
wrote:

Quote:
It never ceases to amaze me that an intelligent human being
can rise to the ranks of a doctorhood
and yet still cling to early myths about imaginary gods in the sky.

There are many Christian doctors, Muslim doctors, Jewish doctors,
Hindu doctors, Buddhist doctors, Taoist doctors etc and I presume
atheist doctors and agnostic doctors.

It never ceases to amaze me how someone can be so intelligent and
still think the physical life is all there is. Especially when life is
NOT seen to come from nothing. "ex nihilo"

I have had the privilege of knowing a number of Christian Doctors over
the years (my church is very over represented with them thankfully)
and none of them seemed to be anything other than well balanced
professionals, well respected in their fields of service.

I thank God for Doctors, whether they believe in Him or not. ;-)

Peace and grace.



Athanasius, dcn_athanasius@REMOVEyahoo.com.au
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"If the world is against Athanasius then Athanasius is against
the world." St Athanasius the Apostolic, 20th Patriarch of Alexandria.
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Athanasius
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:14 am    Post subject: Re: GOD knows what is in our hearts. Reply with quote

On Fri, 21 Jul 2006 13:51:53 +1000, "\"Mark T\""
<thinkaboutwh@youaredoing3908748659760874598> wrote:

Quote:
GOD knows what is in our hearts.



Blood!!!!

of Christ. :-)



Athanasius, dcn_athanasius@REMOVEyahoo.com.au
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"If the world is against Athanasius then Athanasius is against
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bob young
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:16 am    Post subject: Re: The reason Christ Jesus cursed the fig tree. Reply with quote

"Christopher A. Lee" wrote:

Quote:
On Wed, 19 Jul 2006 18:01:35 -0700, "Rev. Karl E. Taylor"
ktayloraz@getnet.net> wrote:

wbarwell wrote:
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the
fig tree for not bearing fruit even though it was
out-of-season for figs (Mark 11:12,13,14).


Because he was stupid. And for trinitarians, he was god
which makes god stupid.
A smart god would have made that fig tree yield figs
overnight.

Only a dumbass god has a temper tantrum and does something
stupid like that.
Of course it did not happen, it just shows the writer of
these lies was stupid.

Those xian morons that cannot spot the stupidity exhibit
their own stupidity.


But Chunks has a PhD. So he can't be stupid, can he?

We must not lose sight of the fact that any level of
intelligence,
including stupidy, is set by the species that it is supposed to
measure,
herefore what is intelligent or stupid has little rral meaning.

My dog doesn't give a s**t whether i am intelligent or not.

Quote:


So has Duane Gish. In their minds that makes him an authority.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:16 am    Post subject: Re: The reason Christ Jesus cursed the fig tree. Reply with quote

"Athanasius" wrote:

Quote:
There are many Christian doctors, Muslim doctors, Jewish doctors,
Hindu doctors, Buddhist doctors, Taoist doctors etc and I presume
atheist doctors and agnostic doctors.
....
I have had the privilege of knowing a number of Christian Doctors over
the years (my church is very over represented with them thankfully)
and none of them seemed to be anything other than well balanced
professionals, well respected in their fields of service.

I thank God for Doctors, whether they believe in Him or not. Wink


DON'T SEE A DOCTOR!!!!!!

2 Chr. 16:12-13 - In the thirty-ninth year of his reign Asa became diseased
in his feet. His disease was severe, yet even in his disease he did not seek
the LORD, but the physicians. So Asa slept with his fathers, having died in
the forty-first year of his reign.

It is obvious from the Bible that you should not consult a doctor!!!!!

Just remain on a diet of Bible verses in order to get cured.

Go to bed. Take 2 Bible verses a day with a glass of water. Report back
after being 10 years on this Bible Medicine ... or arrange for your obituary
to be posted on the ngs if you kick the bucket beforehand.
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bob young
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:23 am    Post subject: Re: The reason Christ Jesus cursed the fig tree. Reply with quote

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" wrote:

Quote:
Rev. Karl E. Taylor wrote:
wbarwell wrote:
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD wrote:

You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the
fig tree for not bearing fruit even though it was
out-of-season for figs (Mark 11:12,13,14).


Because he was stupid. And for trinitarians, he was god
which makes god stupid.
A smart god would have made that fig tree yield figs
overnight.

Only a dumbass god has a temper tantrum and does something
stupid like that.
Of course it did not happen, it just shows the writer of
these lies was stupid.

Those xian morons that cannot spot the stupidity exhibit
their own stupidity.


But Chunks has a PhD. So he can't be stupid, can he?

Not only has GOD given me a discerning heart but HE has also given me
HIS gifts of intelligence, knowledge, and wisdom.

And to that raving mental retard just down the road from you He gave
nothing?!!!!

And I should hardly mention the one in fourhundred odd thousand
grossly deformed human fetus that arrive looking so horrible
the mother is never allowed to see it.
Your god made that too.

I suggest you remove your blinkers and start USING some of that
'intelligence'

Quote:


Many thanks, much praise, and all the glory to LORD GOD Almighty, Whom
I love with all my heart, soul, mind, and strength.

You will be in my prayers, dear neighbor.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth
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bob young
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:25 am    Post subject: Re: The reason Christ Jesus cursed the fig tree. Reply with quote

Uncle Vic wrote:

Quote:
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
(nospam2@heartmdphd.com) made the light shine upon us with this:

Not only has GOD given me a discerning heart but HE has also given me
HIS gifts of intelligence, knowledge, and wisdom.

So God is a babbling moron like you?

I bet when those medical types get together for a chat
he avoids the Psychiatrists like the plague!

Quote:


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Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department

The laws that require me to NOT kill people I don't like REALLY bug
me, or there would be many less of YOUR kind.
-John Weatherly
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bob young
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:25 am    Post subject: Re: The reason Christ Jesus cursed the fig tree. Reply with quote

Uncle Vic wrote:

Quote:
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
(nospam2@heartmdphd.com) made the light shine upon us with this:

Not only has GOD given me a discerning heart but HE has also given me
HIS gifts of intelligence, knowledge, and wisdom.

So God is a babbling moron like you?

I bet when those medical types get together for a chat
he avoids the Psychiatrists like the plague!

Quote:


--
Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department

The laws that require me to NOT kill people I don't like REALLY bug
me, or there would be many less of YOUR kind.
-John Weatherly
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bob young
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:28 am    Post subject: Re: The reason Christ Jesus cursed the fig tree. Reply with quote

Uncle Vic wrote:

Quote:
Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
(andrew@heartmdphd.com) made the light shine upon us with this:

You remind me of the reason why Christ Jesus cursed the fig tree for
not bearing fruit even though it was out-of-season for figs (Mark
11:12,13,14).

And I'll bet you think that actually happened, don't you Earthquack? If
so, you'd have to believe in the power of Astrology to predict the future,
magic is really magic, and the weather is caused by the mood swings of
"God."

sigh

You never see animals going through the absurd and often horrible fooleries
of magic and religion. Only man behaves with such gratuitous folly. It is
the price he has to pay for being intelligent but not, as yet, quite
intelligent enough.
[Aldous Leonard Huxley]



Quote:


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Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department

The laws that require me to NOT kill people I don't like REALLY bug
me, or there would be many less of YOUR kind.
-John Weatherly
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bob young
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:30 am    Post subject: Re: CHUNG WAS FIRED FOR CAUSE!!!! (STOP CHANGING SUBJECTS, CHUNG!) Reply with quote

Hawkeye-X wrote:

Quote:
On 19 Jul 2006 20:54:56 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
nospam2@heartmdphd.com> wrote:

Hawkeye-X wrote:
I have spoken with his colleague, and I have discovered that Andrew B.
Chung was fired in Florida for CAUSE.

Chungy, what do you think Dr. Hildner said about you?

He remains untruthful.


Oh, believe it or not, Dr. Hildner laid down only 5% of what he knows
about you, and he even admits it. He is telling the truth. He gave me
details to the letter. He has SO much more and I am willing to listen
and ask him certain questions about YOU Chungboi. Seems that his
memory is as sharp as it was a few years ago when he fired your fat
ass.

Well had a feeling for some time we were dealing here with some kind if nut.

Now it has been confimed.

I will forever be in your debt.

Bob

Quote:


I'd love to hear it.

My account remains archived multiple times in Google without variance.

DO NOT TRY TO DENY IT!

Simply reread Dr. Hilder's original **written** claim that I "talked"
myself out of the position at CFHC. Now ponder why his story is
changing or simply read about CFHC trying to change my termination from
without cause to with cause in order to bolster their counter-complaint
**after** the Florida Medical Board received a complaint from me about
CFHC's unethical behavior in attempting to coerce me into falsifying
the medical records of my patients in Ocala.

Guess what? Hilder NEVER said that you talked yourself out of position
at CFHC. He said you were fired with cause, and I know *EXACTLY* why.
Do you? Think about what you did, and I'm sure the pastor would say to
you, if he heard the same story I heard from Dr. Hilder, "BEGONE,
UNCLEAN SINNER, YOU ARE NOT WORTHY OF BEING CLEAN AND NEVER WILL BE!"

And you claimed that Hilder was fired or forced to move on? Guess
what, Hildner said he is STILL and I quote "I was and still
am the Medical Director of the Cardiac Catheterization laboratory at
CFHC." and he has been in the position for 14 years.

His story has not changed, Yours have. And repeatedly. I find it VERY
hard to believe that you could POSSIBLY be telling the truth, when I
VERY much doubt that you know the difference between fantasy and
truth.

Untruthful people are like the shifting sands on a beach...
ever-changing in their stories.

Um, that would be you, Chungboi. You're the big fat liar, and I have
the truth on my own e-mail, and I believe his story. He has FAR more
experience than you.

Still praying for Dr. Hildner and for you, dear neighbor.

I'm sure he's already laughing at your utter stupidity, Chungboi.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth

Furthermore, I nominate and re-nominate Chung for Coward of the Month,
Tar & Feathers, Joseph Bartlo Pathetic Anal Pineapple Award, Palmjob
Paddle, Busted Urinal Award, Bolo Bullis Foam Duck, and George Pickett
Memorial Trophy, based on the fact that *I* know the truth, and
Chungboi continues to twist the truth as Dr. Hilder predicted
correctly.

and I quote from Dr. Hilder after he first contacted me:

"someday get into Chung's hands where it will be twisted,
misinterpreted and used for his unworthy purposes."

Even your old superior thinks you are UNWORTHY!

Hawkeye-X
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Hawkeye-X
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:36 am    Post subject: Re: Walking with Christ Jesus leads to a more abundant life on earth. Reply with quote

On 20 Jul 2006 20:01:06 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
<nospam8@heartmdphd.com> wrote:

Quote:
John wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 22:31:52 GMT, "R. Pierce Butler"
spamsucks@google.com> wrote:

"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:zlDvg.174619$F_3.59500@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net:

Hawkeye-X wrote:
I have spoken with his colleague, and I have discovered that Andrew B.
Chung was fired in Florida for CAUSE.

Chungy, what do you think Dr. Hildner said about you?

I'd love to hear it.

DO NOT TRY TO DENY IT!

Hawkeye-X

For a doctor to speak badly about another doctor is a pretty rare thing
and usually implies something beyond gross incompetence.

In my experience, gross incompetence is enough to do it.

Yes, Dr. Hildner may be grossly incompetent. After all, he struck
first - and against a newbie. Probably felt threatened by the new
guy's training and knowledge. Somebody more secure in their
leadership role would probably have spent a little more time
attempting to mentor rather than what he did. I know, I my leadership
roles, I've had to mentor some of the new graduates for quite a while
before being able to turn them loose to create on their own.

It was impossible for Dr. Hildner to have any leadership role when he
no longer had a physical presence at the workplace because he no longer
had an office. As I helped him carry out one the boxes of his desk
items to his car in 2001, there was a woodcarved desksign with his name
on it. One of the CFHC staff shared his story of how there was once a
snake that got into the office and the woodcarving was used to beat the
snake to death. Dr. Hildner had stopped seeing patients and performing
procedures **prior** to my starting at CFHC in 2001.

May our LORD's peace remain with you, dear brother.

Prayerfully in Christ's amazing love,

Andrew B. Chung
Cardiologist, Atlanta, Georgia, USA
http://HeartMDPhD.com/TheTruth

Uh Andrew. Wrong again. Twisted mind and all that. It was, in fact,
YOU that was forcibly escorted out of CFHC by Dr. Hildner and the fact
that Dr. Hildner is still with CFHC and has been for 14 years.

See what Xtian fundamentalism has gotten you into? Lying in the name
of Lord, and just plain kookery.

Hawkeye-X
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:44 am    Post subject: Re: CHUNG WAS FIRED FOR CAUSE!!!!! Reply with quote

On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 20:26:25 -0700, jason@nospam.com (Jason Johnson)
wrote:

Quote:
In article <a7g0c259tjavf0kbkvt6avg83jhm8n74ep@4ax.com>, Hawkeye-X
hawkeyex-nntp@comcast.net> wrote:

On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 17:20:04 -0600, John <john9212112@aol.com> wrote:

On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 22:31:52 GMT, "R. Pierce Butler"
spamsucks@google.com> wrote:

"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:zlDvg.174619$F_3.59500@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net:

Hawkeye-X wrote:
I have spoken with his colleague, and I have discovered that Andrew B.
Chung was fired in Florida for CAUSE.

Chungy, what do you think Dr. Hildner said about you?

I'd love to hear it.

DO NOT TRY TO DENY IT!

Hawkeye-X

For a doctor to speak badly about another doctor is a pretty rare thing
and usually implies something beyond gross incompetence.




In my experience, gross incompetence is enough to do it.

Yes, Dr. Hildner may be grossly incompetent. After all, he struck
first - and against a newbie. Probably felt threatened by the new
guy's training and knowledge. Somebody more secure in their
leadership role would probably have spent a little more time
attempting to mentor rather than what he did. I know, I my leadership
roles, I've had to mentor some of the new graduates for quite a while
before being able to turn them loose to create on their own.

Blessings,
John

Actually based on what Dr. Hildner told me, Chung was completely
incompetent. Re-read what Hildner told him on his letter.

Hawkeye-X

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Hawkey-X,
For the sake of discussion, let's assume that Dr. Hildner was correct in
everything that he wrote in his letter. How was Doctor Chung able to
graduate
from medical college and become a cardiologist if he is "completely
incompetent"? Doctor Chung still treats patients at his office. If he
truly was "completely incompetent", he would not be allowed to treat
patients.
Perhaps Dr. Hildner has an opinion that Dr. Hildner is completely
incompetent but that does not mean that every other doctor in that
hospital has that same attitude about Dr. Chung.
Jason
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

Then why does he NOT have any admitting rights to ANY hospitals in
Georgia? Because of his problems in Florida, which the resolution was
sent nationwide to all medical boards, and all hospitals, knowing that
Chung is truly grossly incompetent to be a doctor and is trying to
weasel his way out by using his Xtian fundamentalistic behavior.

He doesn't even practice in Georgia, despite his claims to do so. He
is licensed, yes, but not currently practicing. Why do you think he
spends all of his time on the Usenet k00king out like the weasel he
is?

Hawkeye-X
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 4:53 am    Post subject: Re: Laus Deo ! Reply with quote

Once upon a time in alt.atheism, dear sweet Stephen Knight (wooly51
@comcast.net) made the light shine upon us with this:


Quote:

Uncle Vic! This isn't a slam dunk! You can be happy, brother. You
don't need a stupid god. Get some beer! It's better than god.

Trust me... I know. I'm so fucking drunk right now, I can't see the
keyboard but praise beer, I can type. God can't do that!

Warlord Steve
BAAWA

Dang, have one for me, bro. If I didn't have to do a lead sheet tonight
I'd approaching you BAC for sure. Instead, it's grape soda and the vision
of a 12-pack for tomorrow night...

I don't get hangovers anymore. Maybe that's a bad sign...

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Uncle Vic
aa Atheist #2011
Supervisor, EAC Department of little adhesive-backed "L" shaped
chrome-plastic doo-dads to add feet to Jesus fish department

The laws that require me to NOT kill people I don't like REALLY bug
me, or there would be many less of YOUR kind.
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The Lord
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 5:01 am    Post subject: Re: Able to walk through locked doors - HE is risen ! Reply with quote

Hawkeye-X wrote:
Quote:
I'd rather see Chung pull a rabbit out of his ass. Now that would be a
miracle.

Pulling his once-promising career out of the toilet would be an even
greater miracle.
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 5:18 am    Post subject: Re: Walking with Christ Jesus leads to a more abundant life on earth. Reply with quote

On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 22:07:54 -0600, John <john9212112@aol.com> wrote:

Quote:
On 20 Jul 2006 20:01:06 -0700, "Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD"
nospam8@heartmdphd.com> wrote:

John wrote:
On Thu, 20 Jul 2006 22:31:52 GMT, "R. Pierce Butler"
spamsucks@google.com> wrote:

"Mike Painter" <mddotpainter@sbcglobal.net> wrote in
news:zlDvg.174619$F_3.59500@newssvr29.news.prodigy.net:

Hawkeye-X wrote:
I have spoken with his colleague, and I have discovered that Andrew B.
Chung was fired in Florida for CAUSE.

Chungy, what do you think Dr. Hildner said about you?

I'd love to hear it.

DO NOT TRY TO DENY IT!

Hawkeye-X

For a doctor to speak badly about another doctor is a pretty rare thing
and usually implies something beyond gross incompetence.

In my experience, gross incompetence is enough to do it.

Yes, Dr. Hildner may be grossly incompetent. After all, he struck
first - and against a newbie. Probably felt threatened by the new
guy's training and knowledge. Somebody more secure in their
leadership role would probably have spent a little more time
attempting to mentor rather than what he did. I know, I my leadership
roles, I've had to mentor some of the new graduates for quite a while
before being able to turn them loose to create on their own.

It was impossible for Dr. Hildner to have any leadership role when he
no longer had a physical presence at the workplace because he no longer
had an office. As I helped him carry out one the boxes of his desk
items to his car in 2001, there was a woodcarved desksign with his name
on it. One of the CFHC staff shared his story of how there was once a
snake that got into the office and the woodcarving was used to beat the
snake to death. Dr. Hildner had stopped seeing patients and performing
procedures **prior** to my starting at CFHC in 2001.

May our LORD's peace remain with you, dear brother.

Thank you Andrew.

I guess I should have stated I was arguing from the premise that even
if everything Dr. Hildner said in that e-mail was true, what
inferences could reasonably be drawn. And that without regard to all
the self-serving blather such as standing on his "reputation". My
experience is that a good reputation can remain unspoken or else it
doesn't exist.


Trust me. His reputation is zero.

Hawkeye-X
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PostPosted: Fri Jul 21, 2006 5:21 am    Post subject: Re: Able to walk through locked doors - HE is risen ! Reply with quote

On 20 Jul 2006 22:01:01 -0700, "The Lord, pt. II"
<chungismybeyotch@yahoo.com> wrote:

Quote:
Hawkeye-X wrote:
I'd rather see Chung pull a rabbit out of his ass. Now that would be a
miracle.

Pulling his once-promising career out of the toilet would be an even
greater miracle.

Agreed. Even Hildner was begging Chung to get his head out of his own
ass.

Hawkeye-X
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