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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
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Joined: 25 Mar 2005
Posts: 8540

PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 8:41 am    Post subject: Re: AMERICANS MORE AWARE OF WHAT THEY EAT Reply with quote

Jeff wrote:
Quote:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:42ED74F5.F9C7FEE4@heartmdphd.com...
Jeff wrote:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:42EB5E26.84360CBC@heartmdphd.com...
Jeff wrote:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:42EACE89.95E48042@heartmdphd.com...
Jeff wrote:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:42E9FCC9.1C4517B8@heartmdphd.com...
"Bob (this one)" wrote:

STUDY: AMERICANS MORE AWARE OF WHAT THEY EAT
[From the VNU Foodservice Network]

PORT WASHINGTON, NY -- [From the VNU Foodservice Network,
October
25,
2004] -- Is the tide turning on the country's seemingly endless
round
of
weight gain? Are Americans finally learning to control their
calorie
intake and find more balance in their eating patterns? Could be,
says
a
new study by The NPD Group.

According to NPD's 19th Annual Report on Eating Patterns in
America,
diners are becoming more calorie-conscious, and as a group are
no
longer
gaining weight. They've put the brakes on snacking, and also on
restaurant takeout meals. The bad news: They're eating less at
restaurants overall.

Then the title of the article should be changed to:

"Americans more aware of **how much** they are eating."

Sounds like you, Don, Jeff et al now have your proof that a
sizeable
number of folks here in the U.S. are using the 2PD-OMER Approach.

No, it sounds like people are not gaining by adopting better diets.

"Eating less" is a WOE rather than a diet. Note that the "VNU
foodservice network" call this "bad news."

I don't care about the VNU foodservice network, whatever that is.

It is clear they speak for the foodservice industry in expressing their
opinion that people eating less is "bad news."

It would be wise to discern that these folks (Bob Pastorio included)
would keep you brainwashed that "eating right and exercising" are the
keys to losing weight permanently.

The true keys to losing weight permanently are:

(1) Weighing your meals.

(2) Eating less than 2 lbs (32 ounces) per day.

... while recognizing the foodservice industry's motivation for
rebrainwashing you into making your healthy appetite (aka hunger) your
foe (befriending hunger is the **third** key).

These three (3) keys define the 2PD-OMER Approach which is a WOE that
forsakes calorie counting:

The problem is that it is not the weight of the food that matters, but
the
number of calories you eat.

Actually, there is no reliable way of **measuring** the number of calories

**emphasis** added.

Quote:
(kCals) in the food that you are eating.

Actually, all one needs to do is look at the labels or go to web sites that
have the number of calories and the types of nutrients for a variety of
foods.

Please see **emphasis**.

In Christ's love and service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?W13A4250B
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
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Ray
medicine forum beginner


Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Posts: 6

PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 4:50 am    Post subject: Re: AMERICANS MORE AWARE OF WHAT THEY EAT Reply with quote

OK, thanks for the truth, doc. You are an incompetent person and it shows.
Thank you for clearing that up.


"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:42ED8490.776A0833@heartmdphd.com...
Quote:
Ray wrote:

I have read more than once that your priviledges in the hospitals has
been
removed and that you cannot practice in the state of Florida. Yet, I am
to
see you rebuttal on those charges.....I see you type messages about
truth.
So doc, what is the truth? Have you had priviledges suspended at some or
all hospitals??

No (as I have written many times before).

"Let your yes mean yes and your no mean no." -- Lord Jesus Christ.

Never mind the BS....just give us the truth.

It remains my choice to continue to write truthfully. Sorry my choice
bothers you. Please forgive me for my choice.

Truth is simple:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A

The way to the truth is straight and narrow:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A


Again, Lord Christ teaches from Matthew 5:

11Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely
say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12Rejoice and be glad,
because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they
persecuted the prophets who were before you.


You will be in my prayers, dear Ray, whom I love, in Lord Christ's holy
name.

May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and
Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the
fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make
His presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS)
thereby bringing this thread back on topic in these NGs :-)

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/wtloss.asp

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/press.asp

You may hear me speak about the 2PD-OMER Approach in person and meet
others who have been using this WOE here:

http://www.TheHealthFair.com

You may also choose to have me speak to your group or organization about
the 2PD-OMER Approach in person for the usual and customary speaker's
fee of US$30,000.00 made as a tax-deductible contribution to
TheWellnessFoundation.com (it remains my choice to not profit personally
from the 2PD-OMER Approach):

http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com

In Christ's love and service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?W13A4250B
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
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95 Thesen
medicine forum beginner


Joined: 28 May 2005
Posts: 48

PostPosted: Tue Aug 02, 2005 1:52 am    Post subject: Re: Kidney Stone Question Reply with quote

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
I have been passing stones for years.
Sounds like you got
an "obstruction" with a fair
amount of blood, pus, and condensates.
behind it.
It seems that, as the obstruction moves
down the urethra, the pain drops to nil
because the urethra becomes wider.
This is why you missed catching the
"stone" during urination. No pain to
mark its whereabouts.

What I find to be the difference between
highblood pressure and stone passage:
(1) HBP pain is steady and dull on both
sides. Drinking water can stop the pain.
(2) Stone passage is a throbbing pain on
one side only. Drinking more water has no
effect.
David H
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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Jeff
medicine forum Guru


Joined: 25 Mar 2005
Posts: 1313

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 10:36 pm    Post subject: Re: AMERICANS MORE AWARE OF WHAT THEY EAT Reply with quote

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:42ED74F5.F9C7FEE4@heartmdphd.com...
Quote:
Jeff wrote:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:42EB5E26.84360CBC@heartmdphd.com...
Jeff wrote:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:42EACE89.95E48042@heartmdphd.com...
Jeff wrote:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:42E9FCC9.1C4517B8@heartmdphd.com...
"Bob (this one)" wrote:

STUDY: AMERICANS MORE AWARE OF WHAT THEY EAT
[From the VNU Foodservice Network]

PORT WASHINGTON, NY -- [From the VNU Foodservice Network,
October
25,
2004] -- Is the tide turning on the country's seemingly endless
round
of
weight gain? Are Americans finally learning to control their
calorie
intake and find more balance in their eating patterns? Could be,
says
a
new study by The NPD Group.

According to NPD's 19th Annual Report on Eating Patterns in
America,
diners are becoming more calorie-conscious, and as a group are
no
longer
gaining weight. They've put the brakes on snacking, and also on
restaurant takeout meals. The bad news: They're eating less at
restaurants overall.

Then the title of the article should be changed to:

"Americans more aware of **how much** they are eating."

Sounds like you, Don, Jeff et al now have your proof that a
sizeable
number of folks here in the U.S. are using the 2PD-OMER Approach.

No, it sounds like people are not gaining by adopting better diets.

"Eating less" is a WOE rather than a diet. Note that the "VNU
foodservice network" call this "bad news."

I don't care about the VNU foodservice network, whatever that is.

It is clear they speak for the foodservice industry in expressing their
opinion that people eating less is "bad news."

It would be wise to discern that these folks (Bob Pastorio included)
would keep you brainwashed that "eating right and exercising" are the
keys to losing weight permanently.

The true keys to losing weight permanently are:

(1) Weighing your meals.

(2) Eating less than 2 lbs (32 ounces) per day.

... while recognizing the foodservice industry's motivation for
rebrainwashing you into making your healthy appetite (aka hunger) your
foe (befriending hunger is the **third** key).

These three (3) keys define the 2PD-OMER Approach which is a WOE that
forsakes calorie counting:

The problem is that it is not the weight of the food that matters, but
the
number of calories you eat.

Actually, there is no reliable way of measuring the number of calories
(kCals) in the food that you are eating.

Actually, all one needs to do is look at the labels or go to web sites that
have the number of calories and the types of nutrients for a variety of
foods.

Jeff

(...)
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Jezebel
medicine forum beginner


Joined: 01 Aug 2005
Posts: 1

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 5:35 pm    Post subject: Re: PROMOTING BIRTH CONTROL = LESS ABORTION Reply with quote

Everyone missed the point of this post.

It's not to do with morality or ethics at all. It's actually a fairly
clever SPAM tactic to get unsuspecting readers to look at the post and
possibly increase sales of a product.

Hence the link to a condom website and crosspost to the nude newsgroup.

The more readers respond to the inflammatory comments, the more the
link to their product gets viewed.

Cheers to the spammer for creativity.

(Not).
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Mr-Natural-Health
medicine forum Guru


Joined: 01 May 2005
Posts: 1807

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 8:47 am    Post subject: Re: Natural Health and topical zinc for skin Reply with quote

Stacy wrote:

Quote:
And as someone who it seems is repeatedly *opposed* to "natural health", how
would you know anyway?

Lady, like I have told you a thousand times before.

You are not a spokesperson for natural health. You do not have a clue
as to what the term actually means.

Natural health is about preventing lifestyle diseases, and little else.

http://naturalhealthperspective.com/tutorials/definition.html

You couldn't be rational if your life depended upon it. You are unable
to research simple information on the web, like how to buy seed, and
you certainly don't know how to research pubmed.

Your reading comprehendsion is close to zero. And, you don't have a
clue about my web site, or how I have actually used the term 'attitude'
in it.

In short, you are the typical ding bat American female.

You have my condolences. Smile
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stop breathing
medicine forum beginner


Joined: 01 Aug 2005
Posts: 1

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 3:18 am    Post subject: Re: reduce amount of exhaled water-vapor? Reply with quote

Try this:

Cover your nose and mouth with a mask that contains dehydrating agent.



<no_child_left_unleashed@yahoo.com.sg> wrote in message
news:1122358965.578180.189590@g49g2000cwa.googlegroups.com...
Quote:
two out of two responses that want to answer a question that wasn't
asked.

Hey, the human race lived without antibiotics till 80 years go, are you
suggesting we try that again?
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
medicine forum Guru


Joined: 25 Mar 2005
Posts: 8540

PostPosted: Mon Aug 01, 2005 12:10 am    Post subject: Re: AMERICANS MORE AWARE OF WHAT THEY EAT Reply with quote

Ray wrote:
Quote:

I have read more than once that your priviledges in the hospitals has been
removed and that you cannot practice in the state of Florida. Yet, I am to
see you rebuttal on those charges.....I see you type messages about truth.
So doc, what is the truth? Have you had priviledges suspended at some or
all hospitals??

No (as I have written many times before).

"Let your yes mean yes and your no mean no." -- Lord Jesus Christ.

Quote:
Never mind the BS....just give us the truth.

It remains my choice to continue to write truthfully. Sorry my choice
bothers you. Please forgive me for my choice.

Truth is simple:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A

The way to the truth is straight and narrow:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A


Again, Lord Christ teaches from Matthew 5:

11Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely
say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12Rejoice and be glad,
because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they
persecuted the prophets who were before you.


You will be in my prayers, dear Ray, whom I love, in Lord Christ's holy
name.

May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and
Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the
fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make
His presence known here on Usenet Smile

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS)
thereby bringing this thread back on topic in these NGs :-)

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/wtloss.asp

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/press.asp

You may hear me speak about the 2PD-OMER Approach in person and meet
others who have been using this WOE here:

http://www.TheHealthFair.com

You may also choose to have me speak to your group or organization about
the 2PD-OMER Approach in person for the usual and customary speaker's
fee of US$30,000.00 made as a tax-deductible contribution to
TheWellnessFoundation.com (it remains my choice to not profit personally
from the 2PD-OMER Approach):

http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com

In Christ's love and service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?W13A4250B
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
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Ray
medicine forum beginner


Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Posts: 6

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 11:37 pm    Post subject: Re: AMERICANS MORE AWARE OF WHAT THEY EAT Reply with quote

I have read more than once that your priviledges in the hospitals has been
removed and that you cannot practice in the state of Florida. Yet, I am to
see you rebuttal on those charges.....I see you type messages about truth.
So doc, what is the truth? Have you had priviledges suspended at some or
all hospitals?? Never mind the BS....just give us the truth.

Ray O
"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:42ED74F5.F9C7FEE4@heartmdphd.com...
Quote:
Jeff wrote:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:42EB5E26.84360CBC@heartmdphd.com...
Jeff wrote:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:42EACE89.95E48042@heartmdphd.com...
Jeff wrote:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:42E9FCC9.1C4517B8@heartmdphd.com...
"Bob (this one)" wrote:

STUDY: AMERICANS MORE AWARE OF WHAT THEY EAT
[From the VNU Foodservice Network]

PORT WASHINGTON, NY -- [From the VNU Foodservice Network,
October
25,
2004] -- Is the tide turning on the country's seemingly endless
round
of
weight gain? Are Americans finally learning to control their
calorie
intake and find more balance in their eating patterns? Could be,
says
a
new study by The NPD Group.

According to NPD's 19th Annual Report on Eating Patterns in
America,
diners are becoming more calorie-conscious, and as a group are
no
longer
gaining weight. They've put the brakes on snacking, and also on
restaurant takeout meals. The bad news: They're eating less at
restaurants overall.

Then the title of the article should be changed to:

"Americans more aware of **how much** they are eating."

Sounds like you, Don, Jeff et al now have your proof that a
sizeable
number of folks here in the U.S. are using the 2PD-OMER Approach.

No, it sounds like people are not gaining by adopting better diets.

"Eating less" is a WOE rather than a diet. Note that the "VNU
foodservice network" call this "bad news."

I don't care about the VNU foodservice network, whatever that is.

It is clear they speak for the foodservice industry in expressing their
opinion that people eating less is "bad news."

It would be wise to discern that these folks (Bob Pastorio included)
would keep you brainwashed that "eating right and exercising" are the
keys to losing weight permanently.

The true keys to losing weight permanently are:

(1) Weighing your meals.

(2) Eating less than 2 lbs (32 ounces) per day.

... while recognizing the foodservice industry's motivation for
rebrainwashing you into making your healthy appetite (aka hunger) your
foe (befriending hunger is the **third** key).

These three (3) keys define the 2PD-OMER Approach which is a WOE that
forsakes calorie counting:

The problem is that it is not the weight of the food that matters, but
the
number of calories you eat.

Actually, there is no reliable way of measuring the number of calories
(kCals) in the food that you are eating.

You are a total jerk

Ouch. You may have at the other cheek. Sorry my choice to stick with the
truth bothers you. Please forgive me for my choice.

if you think otherwise.

In truth, I **know** otherwise.

Truth is simple:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A

The way to the truth is straight and narrow:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A


Again, Lord Christ teaches from Matthew 5:

11Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely
say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12Rejoice and be glad,
because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they
persecuted the prophets who were before you.


You will remain in my prayers, dear Jeff, whom I love, in Lord Christ's
holy name.

May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and
Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the
fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make
His presence known here on Usenet :-)

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS)
thereby bringing this thread back on topic in these NGs :-)

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/wtloss.asp

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/press.asp

You may hear me speak about the 2PD-OMER Approach in person and meet
others who have been using this WOE here:

http://www.TheHealthFair.com

You may also choose to have me speak to your group or organization about
the 2PD-OMER Approach in person for the usual and customary speaker's
fee of US$30,000.00 made as a tax-deductible contribution to
TheWellnessFoundation.com (it remains my choice to not profit personally
from the 2PD-OMER Approach):

http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com

In Christ's love and service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?W13A4250B
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
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Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom
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Joined: 28 Apr 2005
Posts: 1218

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 11:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Natural Health and topical zinc for skin Reply with quote

Susan wrote:
Quote:
x-no-archive: yes

Sbharris[atsign]ix.netcom.com wrote:

COMMENT:

[Music]
Each of you is pit..i..ful
In your own way....


Yet you seem to spend much of your day among them...

Susan


COMMENT:

LOL. Afraid not. Given your only means of judging this, I'm flattered
you should think so, though.

That remark, BTW, was intended for Gohde and Stacy, and was not
intended as an overall description of posters on sci.med and
sci.nutrition. One finds nuggets of interest here, as on any newsgroup.
Even Stacy, when not blathering about god, may have something to
contribute. And even (so help me) Gohde. Since I haven't killfilled him
yet, even he must occasionally be worth reading. Perhaps as
entertainment.

SBH


Look what's coming down the pipes! Yow, it's the Natural Health
Movement. Run, doctors!

Run.... uphill!

SBH
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
medicine forum Guru


Joined: 25 Mar 2005
Posts: 8540

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 11:03 pm    Post subject: Re: AMERICANS MORE AWARE OF WHAT THEY EAT Reply with quote

Jeff wrote:
Quote:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:42EB5E26.84360CBC@heartmdphd.com...
Jeff wrote:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:42EACE89.95E48042@heartmdphd.com...
Jeff wrote:

"Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD" <andrew@heartmdphd.com> wrote in message
news:42E9FCC9.1C4517B8@heartmdphd.com...
"Bob (this one)" wrote:

STUDY: AMERICANS MORE AWARE OF WHAT THEY EAT
[From the VNU Foodservice Network]

PORT WASHINGTON, NY -- [From the VNU Foodservice Network, October
25,
2004] -- Is the tide turning on the country's seemingly endless
round
of
weight gain? Are Americans finally learning to control their
calorie
intake and find more balance in their eating patterns? Could be,
says
a
new study by The NPD Group.

According to NPD's 19th Annual Report on Eating Patterns in
America,
diners are becoming more calorie-conscious, and as a group are no
longer
gaining weight. They've put the brakes on snacking, and also on
restaurant takeout meals. The bad news: They're eating less at
restaurants overall.

Then the title of the article should be changed to:

"Americans more aware of **how much** they are eating."

Sounds like you, Don, Jeff et al now have your proof that a sizeable
number of folks here in the U.S. are using the 2PD-OMER Approach.

No, it sounds like people are not gaining by adopting better diets.

"Eating less" is a WOE rather than a diet. Note that the "VNU
foodservice network" call this "bad news."

I don't care about the VNU foodservice network, whatever that is.

It is clear they speak for the foodservice industry in expressing their
opinion that people eating less is "bad news."

It would be wise to discern that these folks (Bob Pastorio included)
would keep you brainwashed that "eating right and exercising" are the
keys to losing weight permanently.

The true keys to losing weight permanently are:

(1) Weighing your meals.

(2) Eating less than 2 lbs (32 ounces) per day.

... while recognizing the foodservice industry's motivation for
rebrainwashing you into making your healthy appetite (aka hunger) your
foe (befriending hunger is the **third** key).

These three (3) keys define the 2PD-OMER Approach which is a WOE that
forsakes calorie counting:

The problem is that it is not the weight of the food that matters, but the
number of calories you eat.

Actually, there is no reliable way of measuring the number of calories
(kCals) in the food that you are eating.

Quote:
You are a total jerk

Ouch. You may have at the other cheek. Sorry my choice to stick with the
truth bothers you. Please forgive me for my choice.

Quote:
if you think otherwise.

In truth, I **know** otherwise.

Truth is simple:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A

The way to the truth is straight and narrow:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A


Again, Lord Christ teaches from Matthew 5:

11Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely
say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12Rejoice and be glad,
because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they
persecuted the prophets who were before you.


You will remain in my prayers, dear Jeff, whom I love, in Lord Christ's
holy name.

May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and
Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the
fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make
His presence known here on Usenet Smile

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS)
thereby bringing this thread back on topic in these NGs :-)

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/wtloss.asp

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/press.asp

You may hear me speak about the 2PD-OMER Approach in person and meet
others who have been using this WOE here:

http://www.TheHealthFair.com

You may also choose to have me speak to your group or organization about
the 2PD-OMER Approach in person for the usual and customary speaker's
fee of US$30,000.00 made as a tax-deductible contribution to
TheWellnessFoundation.com (it remains my choice to not profit personally
from the 2PD-OMER Approach):

http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com

In Christ's love and service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?W13A4250B
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
medicine forum Guru


Joined: 25 Mar 2005
Posts: 8540

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 11:03 pm    Post subject: Re: AMERICANS MORE AWARE OF WHAT THEY EAT Reply with quote

ted rosenberg wrote:
Quote:

cc'd by email

Jeff - PLEASE don't feed the trolls

Your colleague (Jeff is an overweight pediatrician and not a cardiologist) the Chung is mentally ill.

(side comment) added.

If I were mentally ill, there would be a public order against me with
the state medical board.

There is not.

Q.E.D.

Truth is invincible:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A

The way to the truth is straight and narrow:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A


Again, Lord Christ teaches from Matthew 5:

11Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely
say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12Rejoice and be glad,
because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they
persecuted the prophets who were before you.


You will remain in my prayers, dear Ted, whom I love, in Lord Christ's
holy name.

May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and
Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the
fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make
His presence known here on Usenet Smile

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS)
thereby bringing this thread back on topic in these NGs :-)

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/wtloss.asp

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/press.asp

You may hear me speak about the 2PD-OMER Approach in person and meet
others who have been using this WOE here:

http://www.TheHealthFair.com

You may also choose to have me speak to your group or organization about
the 2PD-OMER Approach in person for the usual and customary speaker's
fee of US$30,000.00 made as a tax-deductible contribution to
TheWellnessFoundation.com (it remains my choice to not profit personally
from the 2PD-OMER Approach):

http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com

In Christ's love and service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?W13A4250B
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
medicine forum Guru


Joined: 25 Mar 2005
Posts: 8540

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 11:03 pm    Post subject: Re: AMERICANS MORE AWARE OF WHAT THEY EAT Reply with quote

Jeff wrote:
Quote:

"ted rosenberg" <tedrosenberg@iname.com> wrote in message
news:42ED30A5.2010502@iname.com...
cc'd by email

Jeff - PLEASE don't feed the trolls

Your colleague the Chung is mentally ill. There is no reason for you to
repeat any of his drivel

I don't know if Chung is mentally ill.

You would not be having as much difficulty with these discussions if I
were mentally ill.

Quote:
He certainly has a few screws loose.

Ouch. You may have at the other cheek. Sorry my choice to be openly
Christian bothers you so much. Please forgive me for my choice.

Quote:
I do know that Chung is not my colleague.

Correct. You would have to be a practicing board-certified cardiologist
to be my colleague. You will have to accept Christ as your personal
Lord and Savior to be my brother.

Truth is simple.

http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A

The way to the truth is straight and narrow:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A


Again, Lord Christ teaches from Matthew 5:

11Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely
say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12Rejoice and be glad,
because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they
persecuted the prophets who were before you.


You will remain in my prayers, dear Jeff, whom I love, in Lord Christ's
holy name.

May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and
Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the
fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make
His presence known here on Usenet Smile

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS)
thereby bringing this thread back on topic in these NGs :-)

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/wtloss.asp

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/press.asp

You may hear me speak about the 2PD-OMER Approach in person and meet
others who have been using this WOE here:

http://www.TheHealthFair.com

You may also choose to have me speak to your group or organization about
the 2PD-OMER Approach in person for the usual and customary speaker's
fee of US$30,000.00 made as a tax-deductible contribution to
TheWellnessFoundation.com (it remains my choice to not profit personally
from the 2PD-OMER Approach):

http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com

In Christ's love and service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?W13A4250B
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
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Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
medicine forum Guru


Joined: 25 Mar 2005
Posts: 8540

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 11:03 pm    Post subject: Re: AMERICANS MORE AWARE OF WHAT THEY EAT Reply with quote

ted rosenberg wrote:
Quote:

Believe it or not, the Chung is a board-certified cardiologist, and has
JUST as many degrees as you do.

Probably more.

However, the definition of colleague has nothing to do with having a
similar number of degrees.

Truth is simple.

http://makeashorterlink.com/?P2264129A

The way to the truth is straight and narrow:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?A2642108A


Again, Lord Christ teaches from Matthew 5:

11Blessed are you when people insult you, persecute you and falsely
say all kinds of evil against you because of me. 12Rejoice and be glad,
because great is your reward in heaven, for in the same way they
persecuted the prophets who were before you.


You will remain in my prayers, dear Ted, whom I love, in Lord Christ's
holy name.

May you reject your pride and accept Him as your personal Lord and
Savior, someday, so that you too will have eternal life and the
fascinating riches of His everlasting kingdom.

Here's how:

http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129

Please note that God truly made this special link describing that He is
the great "I am" and that His message is as simple as the number 2 which
is a number between 1 to 9 and reminds us of His 2 commandments, the 2
arms of the cross, the 2nd part of the Trinity, the 2 finger sign of the
Prince of Peace [who remains *V*ictorious over death and satan], and the
2PD-OMER Approach. Let it not ever be written that Christ did not make
His presence known here on Usenet Smile

Also, note that Exodus 16:16 continues to remind us that 16 oz plus 16
oz makes 2 pounds, which is "a certain measure of weight," which is what
"omer" literally means in Hebrew.

Enter the 2PD-OMER Approach, which can "cure" metabolic syndrome (MetS)
thereby bringing this thread back on topic in these NGs :-)

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/wtloss.asp

http://www.HeartMDPhD.com/press.asp

You may hear me speak about the 2PD-OMER Approach in person and meet
others who have been using this WOE here:

http://www.TheHealthFair.com

You may also choose to have me speak to your group or organization about
the 2PD-OMER Approach in person for the usual and customary speaker's
fee of US$30,000.00 made as a tax-deductible contribution to
TheWellnessFoundation.com (it remains my choice to not profit personally
from the 2PD-OMER Approach):

http://www.TheWellnessFoundation.com

In Christ's love and service,

Andrew

--
Andrew B. Chung, MD/PhD
Board-Certified Cardiologist

**
Suggested Reading:
(1) http://makeashorterlink.com/?G1D5217EA
(2) http://makeashorterlink.com/?W13A4250B
(3) http://makeashorterlink.com/?X1C62661A
(4) http://makeashorterlink.com/?U1E13130A
(5) http://makeashorterlink.com/?K6F72510A
(6) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I24E5151A
(7) http://makeashorterlink.com/?I22222129
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Susan
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Joined: 05 May 2005
Posts: 932

PostPosted: Sun Jul 31, 2005 9:36 pm    Post subject: Re: Natural Health and topical zinc for skin Reply with quote

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